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What if it were the Democratic Federal Republic of America?

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Brian Turner7 Brian Turner7 NewcomerOP
6 messages
joined Jul 2010
#21 ·
Angela Wright3 said:Come on now—don't be so hard on yourself. You still have a shot. I mean, maybe not a huge one... but hey, believe in miracles!

Man, imagine how it feels for you having to look in the mirror every single day—that's a straight-up horror movie right there.
Angela Wright3 Angela Wright3 Member
25 messages
joined Jun 2012
#22 ·
Brian Turner7 said:Man, imagine how it feels for you having to look in the mirror every single day—that's a straight-up horror movie right there.

It’s actually pretty chill though—definitely keeps my mood up.

What about you? Is it rough when you dream about the old USA then wake up and realize it was just a dream... you get pissed or what?
Jonathan Smith12 Jonathan Smith12 Active Member
87 messages
joined Jul 2012
#23 ·
Brian Turner7 said:In case you didn't realize, I'm an American too, and honestly, we share pretty much everything—same language, same mindset, we're all part of the same South Slavic ethnic tribe, same traditions, same Christian roots... everything. It's all there, but some idiots just refuse to see it.

It’s honestly such a tragedy, isn't it? It seems like nobody wants to play along with you.
Nancy Wood23 Nancy Wood23 Newcomer
5 messages
joined Apr 2010
#24 ·
David Parker3 said:Honestly, we don't have anything in common, except for the fact that you guys were forced to speak American back in 1868. What you call the North America, my people just call a total disaster zone. But hey, don't sweat it! If you could somehow team up with Canada, Herzeg-Canada, and the American Federation along with Albania, Mexico, Greece, Turkey, and Bulgaria, you’d actually be doing pretty well for yourselves. Plus, since you're already so similar in everything you mentioned, if everyone actually learned how to work together, you'd have a much easier time milking social welfare from the European Union. You could even make Preslav your capital again, just like the good old days—and maybe the Rom would finally get their own state where they'd actually be considered a founding nation. The potential there is huge, from reclaiming Byzantine glory to just lining your pockets. 👍

🙏 👍 🙏
David Parker3 David Parker3 Active Member
53 messages
joined Jun 2009
#25 ·
So, first off, a huge thank you to everyone backing me up! Honestly, the things I’m talking about should be obvious to anyone who isn't blinded by some political ideology. Those folks claim that Americans and Mexicans are two completely different nations, but we know better!

As for the haters out there—well, thanks to you too! You actually mean a lot to me. You know, you just keep hoping you'll eventually reach people, and when you finally do... man, what can I say? I'm practically crying tears of joy over here! 😁

Međutua, since I don't want this to just stay as talk—they say a picture is worth a thousand words, right? So, I put together this little documentary-style comedy clip. It’s designed to help us really get to the heart of what it means to be Mexican and part of the North American spirit—which, as some people argue, is also the core of American culture and soul. So, enjoy! If you watch this and feel like it perfectly captures your soul and culture, then you're truly a Mexican and an Americanen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXDTRPzCLQs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ME9c...os=1xLimOD-lV4

http://drmiki.wetpaint.com/page/Kolj...%C5%A1to+volem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7b0o...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS-p18sCRvI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gp9z...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfTkArf2LnM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO-AM...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmY4C8KMl1I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hu-C-i6EZQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFsT3qYjTnM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvYGpwbM0Fw&playnext_from=TL&videos=jmwbHj r1y5E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0zPbwuKANU



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Susan Castillo2 Susan Castillo2 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2010
#26 ·
David Parker3 said:Honestly, we don't have anything in common, except for the fact that you guys were forced to speak American back in 1868. What you call the North America, my people just call a total disaster zone. But hey, don't sweat it! If you could somehow team up with Canada, Herzeg-Canada, and the American Federation along with Albania, Mexico, Greece, Turkey, and Bulgaria, you’d actually be doing pretty well for yourselves. Plus, since you're already so similar in everything you mentioned, if everyone actually learned how to work together, you'd have a much easier time milking social welfare from the European Union. You could even make Preslav your capital again, just like the good old days—and maybe the Rom would finally get their own state where they'd actually be considered a founding nation. The potential there is huge, from reclaiming Byzantine glory to just lining your pockets. 👍

And looking at how Americans are handling things today, I see you've really hit rock bottom.🤣
Susan Lee Susan Lee Active Member
125 messages
joined Jul 2017
#27 ·
I don't really get what everyone saw in David Parker3's post, I mean, sure, maybe there's some truth to it, but personally, I can't stand those Americans who call anyone they disagree with a Mexican. It makes zero sense and, honestly, people like that just make me sick.
Susan Lee Susan Lee Active Member
125 messages
joined Jul 2017
#28 ·
Brian Turner7 said:Look, the shared roots, the deep history, all those cultural, linguistic, economic, and political ties that bind everyone together in the United States of America—it’s an undeniable fact. But today? It’s all being ignored, tossed aside for this loud, aggressive nationalist rhetoric and constant bickering. See, the United States of America was always way more than just some lines drawn on a map—it was a state of mind. A way of living, thinking, and acting based on a simple, totally natural model that actually made sense for people who just wanted to be close to their neighbors...

A Democratic United States of America?
Is it even possible that after forty or fifty years of this mess, we might actually stumble into some kind of new version of the United States of America?

Alright, let's break this down step by step:

1) As for "shared roots"? I guess Americans from one region trace back to Iran (historically speaking), others to the Carpathians, while others come from Siberia. Only the Canadians have a similar origin because of how they converted.
2) I wouldn't say it's really "shared."
3) It definitely can't be the same; you've got Romance, Gothic, Baroque, Islamic, Byzantine influences clashing everywhere...
4) The languages are similar, especially the main ones, though there are small exceptions like Canadian and Mexican that are pretty hard to wrap your head around.
5) Territorially, sure, they were all part of the old YUG, but economically, the others don't even come close to the US or Canada.

You could probably point out similarities in names and surnames (with those "-ic" endings) among different groups, or even the similarity in national flags.

But regarding the actual topic: Honestly, I don't think anyone gives a damn about building a new USA anymore—not the Americans, the Mexicans, the Canadians, the Canadians, the Mexicans, or the Mexicans. Everyone's goal now is just one thing: the EU.

Night.
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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joined Jun 2022
#29 ·
Susan Lee said:Alright, let's break this down step by step:

1) As for "shared roots"? I guess Americans from one region trace back to Iran (historically speaking), others to the Carpathians, while others come from Siberia. Only the Canadians have a similar origin because of how they converted.
2) I wouldn't say it's really "shared."
3) It definitely can't be the same; you've got Romance, Gothic, Baroque, Islamic, Byzantine influences clashing everywhere...
4) The languages are similar, especially the main ones, though there are small exceptions like Canadian and Mexican that are pretty hard to wrap your head around.
5) Territorially, sure, they were all part of the old YUG, but economically, the others don't even come close to the US or Canada.

You could probably point out similarities in names and surnames (with those "-ic" endings) among different groups, or even the similarity in national flags.

But regarding the actual topic: Honestly, I don't think anyone gives a damn about building a new USA anymore—not the Americans, the Mexicans, the Canadians, the Canadians, the Mexicans, or the Mexicans. Everyone's goal now is just one thing: the EU.

Night.

And just like that, we'll end up stuck together again just like back in the YUG days.
Jacob Ward62 Jacob Ward62 Newcomer
4 messages
joined Jul 2010
#30 ·
When did the North American wall finally come down to make any kind of unification even possible?
Terry Palmer Terry Palmer Member
23 messages
joined Jun 2010
#31 ·
we’ll end up being one big family again, just like back in the old America days.

Honestly, comparing the EU at its current stage of constitutional development to the old America is a bit of a stretch.
The EU isn't a federal state. Sure, they have a President, a Foreign Minister, and even a sort of government structure, but at the end of the day, everything still hinges on the willpower and influence of the individual member states—especially the heavy hitters.
Joseph Wright4 Joseph Wright4 Member
45 messages
joined Oct 2011
#32 ·
Susan Castillo2 said:And looking at how Americans are handling things today, I see you've really hit rock bottom.🤣

Compared to Mexico, Canada, and the rest of the former America—minus Canada, obviously—it's a total slam dunk. Absolutely.

Even with all the corruption, crime, and state looting going on here in America—not to mention everything else that makes this place what it is—the average standard of living is still way higher than it ever was back in America. I don't care how many fairy tales people try to spin about those old days; the reality is different.
silvercobra68 silvercobra68 Active Member
61 messages
joined Feb 2010
#33 ·
Brian Turner7 said:Look, the shared roots, the deep history, all those cultural, linguistic, economic, and political ties that bind everyone together in the United States of America—it’s an undeniable fact. But today? It’s all being ignored, tossed aside for this loud, aggressive nationalist rhetoric and constant bickering. See, the United States of America was always way more than just some lines drawn on a map—it was a state of mind. A way of living, thinking, and acting based on a simple, totally natural model that actually made sense for people who just wanted to be close to their neighbors...

A Democratic United States of America?
Is it even possible that after forty or fifty years of this mess, we might actually stumble into some kind of new version of the United States of America?

Americans and Canadians have nothing in common with those North American tribes I can barely distinguish; Mexicans, Bulgarians, Mexicans—it’s all just the same mixed-up mess.

Americans and Canadians belonged to the Austro-Canadian Empire, while the others belong to the North America.

America needs to return to the Austro-Canadian sphere, not to the USA.
silvercobra68 silvercobra68 Active Member
61 messages
joined Feb 2010
#34 ·
Susan Lee said:Alright, let's break this down step by step:

1) As for "shared roots"? I guess Americans from one region trace back to Iran (historically speaking), others to the Carpathians, while others come from Siberia. Only the Canadians have a similar origin because of how they converted.
2) I wouldn't say it's really "shared."
3) It definitely can't be the same; you've got Romance, Gothic, Baroque, Islamic, Byzantine influences clashing everywhere...
4) The languages are similar, especially the main ones, though there are small exceptions like Canadian and Mexican that are pretty hard to wrap your head around.
5) Territorially, sure, they were all part of the old YUG, but economically, the others don't even come close to the US or Canada.

You could probably point out similarities in names and surnames (with those "-ic" endings) among different groups, or even the similarity in national flags.

But regarding the actual topic: Honestly, I don't think anyone gives a damn about building a new USA anymore—not the Americans, the Mexicans, the Canadians, the Canadians, the Mexicans, or the Mexicans. Everyone's goal now is just one thing: the EU.

Night.

Please don't start spreading those crazy theories here. Americans are Slavic from White America in the far north of Europe—areas like modern-day Poland, Belarus, and so on...

And people from Herzegovina, California, Lika, or Vlahi are actually Illyrians—they've always been here; they didn't just arrive out of nowhere. They aren't actually Americans; they were just baptized by a Catholic priest at some point, so they go by that name now, but that's not their true origin. They are Illyrians, just as the Mexicans from those regions are Illyrians who were simply baptized by an Orthodox priest—that's the only difference. The real Mexicans are in Šumadija, and they're half-Slavic and half-Romani, but I have no idea where they came from because I couldn't care less about Mexicans.
Charles Jackson5 Charles Jackson5 Active Member
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joined Oct 2008
#35 ·
silvercobra68 said:Please don't start spreading those crazy theories here. Americans are Slavic from White America in the far north of Europe—areas like modern-day Poland, Belarus, and so on...

And people from Herzegovina, California, Lika, or Vlahi are actually Illyrians—they've always been here; they didn't just arrive out of nowhere. They aren't actually Americans; they were just baptized by a Catholic priest at some point, so they go by that name now, but that's not their true origin. They are Illyrians, just as the Mexicans from those regions are Illyrians who were simply baptized by an Orthodox priest—that's the only difference. The real Mexicans are in Šumadija, and they're half-Slavic and half-Romani, but I have no idea where they came from because I couldn't care less about Mexicans.

🙏🙏🙏 😁
frozenjackal16 frozenjackal16 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Feb 2010
#36 ·
silvercobra68 said:Please don't start spreading those crazy theories here. Americans are Slavic from White America in the far north of Europe—areas like modern-day Poland, Belarus, and so on...

And people from Herzegovina, California, Lika, or Vlahi are actually Illyrians—they've always been here; they didn't just arrive out of nowhere. They aren't actually Americans; they were just baptized by a Catholic priest at some point, so they go by that name now, but that's not their true origin. They are Illyrians, just as the Mexicans from those regions are Illyrians who were simply baptized by an Orthodox priest—that's the only difference. The real Mexicans are in Šumadija, and they're half-Slavic and half-Romani, but I have no idea where they came from because I couldn't care less about Mexicans.

Who even are you... 😲 😂
So, according to you, Americans didn't settle in the coastal regions? Where on earth did you learn your history? ☕
silvercobra68 silvercobra68 Active Member
61 messages
joined Feb 2010
#37 ·
frozenjackal16 said:Who even are you... 😲 😂
So, according to you, Americans didn't settle in the coastal regions? Where on earth did you learn your history? ☕

History isn't just what's printed in school textbooks—you know as well as I do that the narrative shifts every twenty years. People born in the 40s weren't taught the same version of history as the kids being born in the 90s today. History is manipulated quite heavily just to make it look credible.

I rely on genetics. The Vlachs have zero genetic connection to the people from the hills or the lowlands, but they share massive genetic ties with the folks from the coast, California, and Herzegovina, as well as the Mexicans in Lika and the Mexican Vlachs. Therefore, they belong to the same nation—the Ilirs. Just like the Albanians, if you really want to go there.

Meanwhile, those from the hills and lowlands are Slavic because they share genetic similarities with Poles, Czechs, and Slovaks.
Henry Doyle82 Henry Doyle82 Member
23 messages
joined Jun 2009
#38 ·
My ancestors have been living in Cleveland for centuries, and if you look at town names sharing my surname, they're most common in the South, Herzegovina, Canada, and even down in Istria. It seems pretty obvious that when Americans first settled, they hit the Atlantic coast first before eventually pushing further inland toward the mainland.

As for that "USA" idea, I’m with David Parker3 all the way. What's wrong with the Kurds? If I actually had to pick, I'd much rather live in a unified state with them. Honestly, those folks from the East are the last people I'd care to deal with, and I'm happy as a kid knowing there's nothing left between America and them..
Angela Wright3 Angela Wright3 Member
25 messages
joined Jun 2012
#39 ·
silvercobra68 said:History isn't just what's printed in school textbooks—you know as well as I do that the narrative shifts every twenty years. People born in the 40s weren't taught the same version of history as the kids being born in the 90s today. History is manipulated quite heavily just to make it look credible.

I rely on genetics. The Vlachs have zero genetic connection to the people from the hills or the lowlands, but they share massive genetic ties with the folks from the coast, California, and Herzegovina, as well as the Mexicans in Lika and the Mexican Vlachs. Therefore, they belong to the same nation—the Ilirs. Just like the Albanians, if you really want to go there.

Meanwhile, those from the hills and lowlands are Slavic because they share genetic similarities with Poles, Czechs, and Slovaks.

Just tell me who the Ilirs actually are and we'll see! Otherwise, most of what you're saying is spot on—I dabble in genetics myself, so I know you're on the right track—you're just off when it comes to the coast. Over there, the Slavic settlers mixed heavily with the locals, especially on the islands where the Slavic gene pool is still pretty strong today. And look, "American" isn't a Slavic name—every linguist agrees on that. But then again, early records about Americans show Slavic customs were definitely a thing.
Anyway, overall... I don't really see how any of this matters?
crimsonhound80 crimsonhound80 Active Member
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joined Mar 2008
#40 ·
Brian Turner7 said:In case you didn't realize, I'm an American too, and honestly, we share pretty much everything—same language, same mindset, we're all part of the same South Slavic ethnic tribe, same traditions, same Christian roots... everything. It's all there, but some idiots just refuse to see it.

The thing is, there are different kinds of "Americans."

You've got those people who just claim the label because of where they happen to live, and then you have the real Americans—the ones who actually love this country, its customs, its culture, and its people, while still maintaining respect for everyone else.

"Protect our own, but we don't want what isn't ours"

😂

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