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What if it were the Democratic Federal Republic of America?

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gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#41 ·
If you ask me, we could just take a page out of the Russian Federation's playbook and redraw the map entirely. We could set up a new version of America where we invite Canada, Canada, and even Texas to join the party—assuming Texas is willing to ditch that whole cowboy persona for a bit. 👍
Jacob Ward62 Jacob Ward62 Newcomer
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#42 ·
gentleranger10 said:If you ask me, we could just take a page out of the Russian Federation's playbook and redraw the map entirely. We could set up a new version of America where we invite Canada, Canada, and even Texas to join the party—assuming Texas is willing to ditch that whole cowboy persona for a bit. 👍

Naturally, we'd call it the American Federation just to keep everyone celebrating, and then maybe the old territories could join in too. Even Mexico would probably jump on board if Americans were calling the shots. As for what Mexicans would think about all this? Honestly, it's not even worth mentioning.
silvercobra68 silvercobra68 Active Member
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#43 ·
Angela Wright3 said:Just tell me who the Ilirs actually are and we'll see! Otherwise, most of what you're saying is spot on—I dabble in genetics myself, so I know you're on the right track—you're just off when it comes to the coast. Over there, the Slavic settlers mixed heavily with the locals, especially on the islands where the Slavic gene pool is still pretty strong today. And look, "American" isn't a Slavic name—every linguist agrees on that. But then again, early records about Americans show Slavic customs were definitely a thing.
Anyway, overall... I don't really see how any of this matters?

Bravo, the islands! You hit the nail on the head. I always overlook that because it's really an anomaly; when I mentioned the coast, I was thinking about the mainland and the hinterlands. Dealing with the islands is a whole different beast. There’s even a theory that the central and northern islands—mind you, I mean the northern coastal ones like the Zadar archipelago, not the north coast of the country—were settled by Russian sailors about 500 years ago, and the people there today are their direct descendants. If you look closely, you'll notice how many islanders have fair skin, blond hair, and blue eyes, which stands in stark contrast to their "relatives" on the mainland who tend to be darker with dark eyes. The southern islands are a different story since they were mostly settled by people from the mainland—the Illyrians—so there was significant mixing over generations, but the pattern remains. Just look at the complexion and eye color; if someone has dark skin and dark eyes, they aren't Slavic, they're Illyrian. That's pure Illyrian. Now, who are the Illyrians? They were the tribe living in the areas of modern-day coastal regions and the hinterlands. Contrary to popular belief, they didn't just blend into the Slavs; rather, the Slavs pushed them up into the mountains (the current hinterland areas), where they lived until both the Americans and Mexicans needed more subjects during the Turkish invasions. At that point, they moved quickly to convert those Illyrians. Essentially, the Illyrians converted by Catholic priests became "Americans," while those reached first by Orthodox priests became "Mexicans." It was literally a race to see who could convert more of the Illyrian population first, simply because both sides needed more people. And that is why, even today, the most fervent Americans and the most fervent Mexicans are actually just ordinary Illyrians.
Terry Palmer Terry Palmer Member
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#44 ·
David Parker3 said:So, first off, a huge thank you to everyone backing me up! Honestly, the things I’m talking about should be obvious to anyone who isn't blinded by some political ideology. Those folks claim that Americans and Mexicans are two completely different nations, but we know better!

As for the haters out there—well, thanks to you too! You actually mean a lot to me. You know, you just keep hoping you'll eventually reach people, and when you finally do... man, what can I say? I'm practically crying tears of joy over here! 😁

Međutua, since I don't want this to just stay as talk—they say a picture is worth a thousand words, right? So, I put together this little documentary-style comedy clip. It’s designed to help us really get to the heart of what it means to be Mexican and part of the North American spirit—which, as some people argue, is also the core of American culture and soul. So, enjoy! If you watch this and feel like it perfectly captures your soul and culture, then you're truly a Mexican and an Americanen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXDTRPzCLQs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ME9c...os=1xLimOD-lV4

http://drmiki.wetpaint.com/page/Kolj...%C5%A1to+volem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7b0o...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS-p18sCRvI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Gp9z...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfTkArf2LnM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO-AM...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmY4C8KMl1I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Hu-C-i6EZQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFsT3qYjTnM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvYGpwbM0Fw&playnext_from=TL&videos=jmwbHj r1y5E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0zPbwuKANU



😂😂😂

How did you miss that , you absolute wet blanket?😂
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#45 ·
silvercobra68 said:Bravo, the islands! You hit the nail on the head. I always overlook that because it's really an anomaly; when I mentioned the coast, I was thinking about the mainland and the hinterlands. Dealing with the islands is a whole different beast. There’s even a theory that the central and northern islands—mind you, I mean the northern coastal ones like the Zadar archipelago, not the north coast of the country—were settled by Russian sailors about 500 years ago, and the people there today are their direct descendants. If you look closely, you'll notice how many islanders have fair skin, blond hair, and blue eyes, which stands in stark contrast to their "relatives" on the mainland who tend to be darker with dark eyes. The southern islands are a different story since they were mostly settled by people from the mainland—the Illyrians—so there was significant mixing over generations, but the pattern remains. Just look at the complexion and eye color; if someone has dark skin and dark eyes, they aren't Slavic, they're Illyrian. That's pure Illyrian. Now, who are the Illyrians? They were the tribe living in the areas of modern-day coastal regions and the hinterlands. Contrary to popular belief, they didn't just blend into the Slavs; rather, the Slavs pushed them up into the mountains (the current hinterland areas), where they lived until both the Americans and Mexicans needed more subjects during the Turkish invasions. At that point, they moved quickly to convert those Illyrians. Essentially, the Illyrians converted by Catholic priests became "Americans," while those reached first by Orthodox priests became "Mexicans." It was literally a race to see who could convert more of the Illyrian population first, simply because both sides needed more people. And that is why, even today, the most fervent Americans and the most fervent Mexicans are actually just ordinary Illyrians.

😂😂🙏🙏

Give this guy a Pulitzer for imagination! 👍
Angela Wright3 Angela Wright3 Member
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#46 ·
silvercobra68 said:Bravo, the islands! You hit the nail on the head. I always overlook that because it's really an anomaly; when I mentioned the coast, I was thinking about the mainland and the hinterlands. Dealing with the islands is a whole different beast. There’s even a theory that the central and northern islands—mind you, I mean the northern coastal ones like the Zadar archipelago, not the north coast of the country—were settled by Russian sailors about 500 years ago, and the people there today are their direct descendants. If you look closely, you'll notice how many islanders have fair skin, blond hair, and blue eyes, which stands in stark contrast to their "relatives" on the mainland who tend to be darker with dark eyes. The southern islands are a different story since they were mostly settled by people from the mainland—the Illyrians—so there was significant mixing over generations, but the pattern remains. Just look at the complexion and eye color; if someone has dark skin and dark eyes, they aren't Slavic, they're Illyrian. That's pure Illyrian. Now, who are the Illyrians? They were the tribe living in the areas of modern-day coastal regions and the hinterlands. Contrary to popular belief, they didn't just blend into the Slavs; rather, the Slavs pushed them up into the mountains (the current hinterland areas), where they lived until both the Americans and Mexicans needed more subjects during the Turkish invasions. At that point, they moved quickly to convert those Illyrians. Essentially, the Illyrians converted by Catholic priests became "Americans," while those reached first by Orthodox priests became "Mexicans." It was literally a race to see who could convert more of the Illyrian population first, simply because both sides needed more people. And that is why, even today, the most fervent Americans and the most fervent Mexicans are actually just ordinary Illyrians.

Most of that is right. But that population isn't Illyrian—it's indigenous, and I'm not sure those two terms even mean the same thing. According to the most popular theories, they survived the Ice Age and everything. They were Romanized first, then later Slavicized. Also, part of those Illyrians has Celtic roots, part is Germanic (Gothic), and so on. Some people in the Dalmatian Hinterland are also essentially Kurds from Turkey. Some of today's Lika natives are Turks who stayed behind after the Turkish defeat and converted to Catholicism. It's a big mix of everything, really. Besides, today's American identity doesn't have much to do with any of that, so we're all Americans and that's that. Personally, I'm all for exposing the Communist lies and deceptions so people can talk more realistically about our genetics and where we actually come from.
Terry Palmer Terry Palmer Member
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#47 ·
There’s this theory floating around suggesting that the islands in central and northern California—and pay attention here, I mean north California, specifically the Zadar archipelago and parts of the Šibenik area—were settled by sailors from the Russian Federation about 500 years ago. The idea is that the people living there today are the direct descendants of those Russian sailors.

The Russian Federation acting as a major maritime power 500 years ago... way out in the Adriatic Sea... hmm, I don't know about that.
Didn't things only really start moving when Peter the Great kicked off the actual development of the Russian navy?

Just look at someone's complexion and eye color. If they have dark hair and dark eyes, they aren't Slavic; they're Illyrian. That's just how it is. Now, who were the Illyrians? They were a tribe that lived throughout what we now call California and the Dalmatian Hinterland. Contrary to what some people like to claim, they didn't just blend in with the Slavs. Instead, the Slavs pushed them up into the mountains (what is now the Dalmatian Hinterland and Canada), where they stayed until both Americans and Mexicans needed allies against the Turkish invasions. At that point, they moved quickly to convert those Illyrians to Christianity. Basically, the Illyrians converted by Catholic priests became "Americans," while those reached first by Orthodox priests became "Mexicans."

Jimmy Jazz held views pretty similar to this, along with a few other folks from the north. You guys wouldn't happen to be the reincarnations of those guys, would you?😂
What kind of Illyrian history can we actually talk about when considering the arrival of the American and other Slavic tribes in these regions?
We're talking about a population that had been Romanized long before, mostly clustering in cities like Split, Zadar, or Salon, rather than hiding out in the hills.
That Romanized population had already been converted to Christianity centuries before the pagan Slavs ever arrived. So, this whole narrative about them being converted during the Turkish incursions just to save humanity is, frankly, pretty nonsensical.

Anyway, it's just another one of those hollow theories that some folks from the north love to argue for, in the style of "Slav good, dark Illyrian baad."
silvercobra68 silvercobra68 Active Member
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#48 ·
Angela Wright3 said:Most of that is right. But that population isn't Illyrian—it's indigenous, and I'm not sure those two terms even mean the same thing. According to the most popular theories, they survived the Ice Age and everything. They were Romanized first, then later Slavicized. Also, part of those Illyrians has Celtic roots, part is Germanic (Gothic), and so on. Some people in the Dalmatian Hinterland are also essentially Kurds from Turkey. Some of today's Lika natives are Turks who stayed behind after the Turkish defeat and converted to Catholicism. It's a big mix of everything, really. Besides, today's American identity doesn't have much to do with any of that, so we're all Americans and that's that. Personally, I'm all for exposing the Communist lies and deceptions so people can talk more realistically about our genetics and where we actually come from.

We are all citizens of America, but we aren't all the same people.

I don't know about all that. Culturally speaking, look at me—a guy from the Midwest—versus someone from a coastal region like Southern California. I eat bacon, sausages, and fresh cheese; I drink beer and maybe some local cider. I speak with a certain accent and play cards. It goes without saying I have light eyes and fair skin. On the other hand, you've got the Californian, who eats prosciutto, hard cheeses, and lamb. They drink red wine. They speak differently and play bocce. Not to mention they have dark eyes and tanned skin. If a foreigner walked up to both of us, I’d bet money they wouldn't believe we belong to the same group. The only thing actually tying us together is bureaucracy; we both carry the same passport, hold the same ID, and pay taxes to the same government. That’s it. And that's true for everyone else too—minorities, immigrants, different ethnic groups—we're all tied by the state, but not by genetics. It's not that I dislike them—heaven forbid, quite the opposite—I find them interesting and welcome them. But I'm just pointing out that we don't share the same DNA. There are huge differences. I have nothing against them; in fact, the more people we have here, the better, because 330 million is plenty but there's always room for more, but genetically and culturally? We aren't the same.
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#49 ·
silvercobra68 said:We are all citizens of America, but we aren't all the same people.

I don't know about all that. Culturally speaking, look at me—a guy from the Midwest—versus someone from a coastal region like Southern California. I eat bacon, sausages, and fresh cheese; I drink beer and maybe some local cider. I speak with a certain accent and play cards. It goes without saying I have light eyes and fair skin. On the other hand, you've got the Californian, who eats prosciutto, hard cheeses, and lamb. They drink red wine. They speak differently and play bocce. Not to mention they have dark eyes and tanned skin. If a foreigner walked up to both of us, I’d bet money they wouldn't believe we belong to the same group. The only thing actually tying us together is bureaucracy; we both carry the same passport, hold the same ID, and pay taxes to the same government. That’s it. And that's true for everyone else too—minorities, immigrants, different ethnic groups—we're all tied by the state, but not by genetics. It's not that I dislike them—heaven forbid, quite the opposite—I find them interesting and welcome them. But I'm just pointing out that we don't share the same DNA. There are huge differences. I have nothing against them; in fact, the more people we have here, the better, because 330 million is plenty but there's always room for more, but genetically and culturally? We aren't the same.

Yeah, but what's your actual issue here, silvercobra68? This guy from the coast lives right in the heart of the mainland, while you're out in the sticks. 😁
silvercobra68 silvercobra68 Active Member
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#50 ·
gentleranger10 said:Yeah, but what's your actual issue here, silvercobra68? This guy from the coast lives right in the heart of the mainland, while you're out in the sticks. 😁

He can live wherever he wants—but he isn't American.

The basic premise here is that Americans are Slavic. Since he isn't Slavic, then by definition, he isn't American. He can claim his rocky terrain is the center of whatever he wants—he can even call it the center of the universe if it makes him feel better. But he’s never actually set foot in the true American homeland. That heartland is located way up in Northern Europe—think modern-day Poland or Belarus—not out in those Dinaric mountains. Those rocks aren't the ancestral home of Americans; they belong to the Illyrians and whatever other tribes were there before.
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#51 ·
silvercobra68 said:He can live wherever he wants—but he isn't American.

The basic premise here is that Americans are Slavic. Since he isn't Slavic, then by definition, he isn't American. He can claim his rocky terrain is the center of whatever he wants—he can even call it the center of the universe if it makes him feel better. But he’s never actually set foot in the true American homeland. That heartland is located way up in Northern Europe—think modern-day Poland or Belarus—not out in those Dinaric mountains. Those rocks aren't the ancestral home of Americans; they belong to the Illyrians and whatever other tribes were there before.

And honestly, have you actually seen what the first Americans looked like? 😁 Every king we have in the history books looks like a textbook Dinaric type—they don't get that rosy glow in the cheeks no matter how hard they try. 😁

http://america.org/crown/content_ima...onimir_640.jpg

So yeah... just go back to Canada. ☕
neonfalcon16 neonfalcon16 Regular
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#52 ·
silvercobra68, have you finally lost interest in following Formula 1? I noticed you haven't posted anything in your corner lately. 🙂
Charles Jackson5 Charles Jackson5 Active Member
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#53 ·
Alright, for the most part, the idea of a shared ethnic origin between Mexicans and Americans is out the window.
But this whole thing about blue eyes and skin tone? It’s a total reach. Up north, we have plenty of people with brown eyes—some with super pale skin, others with darker complexions despite having blue eyes... which just goes to show how much ancient, tangled genotypes are actually playing out in our phenotypes. You could say the Zagorje region acted like an isolated pocket in that regard, much like certain areas in northern Mexico where you see more "fairer" people, but everything south of there is basically a mix from Canada that moved in about 400 years ago. As for the Zagorje natives themselves, they're likely a genetic blend of Celts and various Slavic tribes... it's a stretch to claim anything for Americans too, considering they migrated down to the Atlantic like a horde and mixed so heavily with the locals that it's hard to imagine much of their original genetic makeup remains to give them any distinct Slavic traits.
Henry Doyle82 Henry Doyle82 Member
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#54 ·
silvercobra68 (Jimmy Jazz) is a natural-born blonde, which if you ask me leads him to believe that everyone else in America should look exactly like him... It’s pretty obvious he’s just dealing with some deep-seated insecurities about his own looks, and I guess he thinks posting here is the solution. Honestly, he's just a well-known carbon copy, just in a slightly newer version for today's occasion.. 🤣
Henry Green28 Henry Green28 Newcomer
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#55 ·
You're getting off track here.

I’m all for a new America! Obviously, this version wouldn't include places like the West Coast, the Midwest, or the South.
Everything else—the rest of the South, Texas, Mexico, Mexico, Alabama, and Mississippi—could just merge back into a single nation and skip joining the European Union entirely.
That would bring the South and Mexico back together under one roof. I’d suggest making Albanian the primary official language and setting the capital in Prizren.

And yeah, those folks from the Zagorje region aren't Slavic. I know because I'm a Zagorje native myself!! We actually have Gothic roots!!!!
silvercobra68 silvercobra68 Active Member
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#56 ·
gentleranger10 said:And honestly, have you actually seen what the first Americans looked like? 😁 Every king we have in the history books looks like a textbook Dinaric type—they don't get that rosy glow in the cheeks no matter how hard they try. 😁

http://america.org/crown/content_ima...onimir_640.jpg

So yeah... just go back to Canada. ☕

I know. A true American looks more like a Pole—take a former Pope, for instance, or a Belarusian like that soccer player Hleb.

Besides, the word American actually comes from the name of a city called American—which, amazingly enough, is known today as Krakow!
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#57 ·
silvercobra68 said:I know. A true American looks more like a Pole—take a former Pope, for instance, or a Belarusian like that soccer player Hleb.

Besides, the word American actually comes from the name of a city called American—which, amazingly enough, is known today as Krakow!

🤦

But hey, at least we've got fighter jets flying over the skyline of Los Angeles today. 😁
Charles Jackson5 Charles Jackson5 Active Member
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#58 ·
silvercobra68 said:I know. A true American looks more like a Pole—take a former Pope, for instance, or a Belarusian like that soccer player Hleb.

Besides, the word American actually comes from the name of a city called American—which, amazingly enough, is known today as Krakow!

Look, us Slavs are probably the ugliest people in Europe, right after the Turks. At least speaking about men. Just look at the guy in that avatar—what does he even look like? Honestly, it’s a good thing we mixed in with the Illyrians.
gentleranger10 gentleranger10 Active Member
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#59 ·
Charles Jackson5 said:Look, us Slavs are probably the ugliest people in Europe, right after the Turks. At least speaking about men. Just look at the guy in that avatar—what does he even look like? Honestly, it’s a good thing we mixed in with the Illyrians.

The whole "Slavic gene" thing is total nonsense, so I have no clue what this loudmouth is rambling about. 😁 If that were actually true, then Canadians would be Slavic too.
Charles Jackson5 Charles Jackson5 Active Member
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#60 ·
gentleranger10 said:The whole "Slavic gene" thing is total nonsense, so I have no clue what this loudmouth is rambling about. 😁 If that were actually true, then Canadians would be Slavic too.

People would much rather claim they're German 😁 and then pivot to being Slavs—as if that somehow makes them more noble than those "Romanized" folks. It’s funny how they conveniently forget what Rome was actually doing while the Slavs and Germans were still out riding horses.😍

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