God, the Cosmos, and Jesus

Gregory Jackson said:I guess you've got a point there, and yeah, the global energies definitely keep track of all that stuff, but I suppose everything in the universe doesn't run perfectly smoothly just because things are so incredibly complex. It's like... there are these special corrective energies for tweaking energy fields or phenomena, almost like the universe has its own "handymen" who step in to fix certain energy states so they stay in line with the original programming given to them by the Creator. One of those corrective energies, one of those "handymen," is actually that luminous body that the human race has the task and the honor of developing until it reaches full maturity and we don't really need it anymore. Just like how everything grows from an emotional stage, I think energies have to "grow" too. I see that Varanasi has written quite a bit on this, so maybe check out the thread on the "luminous body."

I feel like spiritual energies won't just let all that effort poured into human civilization and completing that mission go to waste, and honestly, it's probably not even a struggle for them to save a "speck of dust." The real headache is likely the efficiency of it all, since humans have free will and you can't just directly interfere with that. That really limits how much spiritual energies can maneuver to "shift" us in a positive direction, so they try to work through religions, spiritual teachers, revelations, "miracles," and so on, though the results seem pretty limited. Also, I imagine they aren't just looking out for people, but they're watching over the plant and animal kingdoms and the Earth itself as a living organism, since it's all part of the Creator's creation.

Gregory Jackson said:I guess you've got a point there, and yeah, the global energies definitely keep track of all that stuff, but I suppose everything in the universe doesn't run perfectly smoothly just because things are so incredibly complex. It's like... there are these special corrective energies for tweaking energy fields or phenomena, almost like the universe has its own "handymen" who step in to fix certain energy states so they stay in line with the original programming given to them by the Creator. One of those corrective energies, one of those "handymen," is actually that luminous body that the human race has the task and the honor of developing until it reaches full maturity and we don't really need it anymore. Just like how everything grows from an emotional stage, I think energies have to "grow" too. I see that Varanasi has written quite a bit on this, so maybe check out the thread on the "luminous body."

I feel like spiritual energies won't just let all that effort poured into human civilization and completing that mission go to waste, and honestly, it's probably not even a struggle for them to save a "speck of dust." The real headache is likely the efficiency of it all, since humans have free will and you can't just directly interfere with that. That really limits how much spiritual energies can maneuver to "shift" us in a positive direction, so they try to work through religions, spiritual teachers, revelations, "miracles," and so on, though the results seem pretty limited. Also, I imagine they aren't just looking out for people, but they're watching over the plant and animal kingdoms and the Earth itself as a living organism, since it's all part of the Creator's creation.

Gregory Jackson said:I guess you've got a point there, and yeah, the global energies definitely keep track of all that stuff, but I suppose everything in the universe doesn't run perfectly smoothly just because things are so incredibly complex. It's like... there are these special corrective energies for tweaking energy fields or phenomena, almost like the universe has its own "handymen" who step in to fix certain energy states so they stay in line with the original programming given to them by the Creator. One of those corrective energies, one of those "handymen," is actually that luminous body that the human race has the task and the honor of developing until it reaches full maturity and we don't really need it anymore. Just like how everything grows from an emotional stage, I think energies have to "grow" too. I see that Varanasi has written quite a bit on this, so maybe check out the thread on the "luminous body."

I feel like spiritual energies won't just let all that effort poured into human civilization and completing that mission go to waste, and honestly, it's probably not even a struggle for them to save a "speck of dust." The real headache is likely the efficiency of it all, since humans have free will and you can't just directly interfere with that. That really limits how much spiritual energies can maneuver to "shift" us in a positive direction, so they try to work through religions, spiritual teachers, revelations, "miracles," and so on, though the results seem pretty limited. Also, I imagine they aren't just looking out for people, but they're watching over the plant and animal kingdoms and the Earth itself as a living organism, since it's all part of the Creator's creation.

Ronald Rogers27 said:I'm with you on this... The whole architecture of the Cosmos and the Creator itself is incredibly intricate. It's definitely not simple or easy to wrap your head around.

I don't buy this... but hey, that's just my take. Luminous bodies, glowing energies... 👎

I think these spiritual energies are locally global, maybe just on the level of our Solar System. Does our galaxy, the Milky Way, actually look out for our Solar System and its local energies? 🤷

Ronald Rogers27

Ronald Rogers27 said:I'm with you on this... The whole architecture of the Cosmos and the Creator itself is incredibly intricate. It's definitely not simple or easy to wrap your head around.

I don't buy this... but hey, that's just my take. Luminous bodies, glowing energies... 👎

I think these spiritual energies are locally global, maybe just on the level of our Solar System. Does our galaxy, the Milky Way, actually look out for our Solar System and its local energies? 🤷

Ronald Rogers27

Gregory Jackson said:Hey everyone, I feel like some of us might be under the impression that it’s just God and us, and maybe that He’s only here specifically for our sake? I guess I want to shake things up a bit and get a discussion going, so I thought I’d share these transcripts of spiritual energies given to Ljubis Stojanovica back on April 13, 1996. just as food for thought!
It’s actually pretty easy to see from this how incredibly complex the cosmos and the life surrounding us really is—and honestly, if I were to paraphrase de mesti, we’re kind of like eagles who somehow think they’re just chickens, so that's basically how we live and eventually die... I’ve been wanting to jot this down over in the aura thread too, so here it is, though I did trim it down a little... please, feel free to feel privileged because not many people have access to this, and hey, I should probably apologize to the moderator in advance...

Everything that exists is essentially subject to a single force or energy that acts everywhere at every single moment. This force is creative in nature; it allows for the generation of energies, which in turn produce matter—both the living and the dead kind. To be most accurate, this energy should be called the Creator or God the Creator. This energy is all-pervading, possessing an unimaginable intelligence along with all knowledge and power. Since it’s omnipresent, it can't just be one uniform thing; it has to be made up of its own partial elements.
To bring His visions to life, the Creator created the unified field, which is this massive, all-encompassing energy that gave rise to other powerful energies and energetic systems—the most important being the Christ energy (don't go confusing this with the historical Jesus, keep reading!) and the energy of the Holy Spirit. Even with its immense power, the unified field won't ever do anything that doesn't align with what the Creator wants. The Creator conveys His will to the unified field through a vibration, and the unified field then tunes itself to that vibration.
The first major spiritual energy created by the unified field is a complex web of energies known as Christ. That’s why in Christian religion it's considered the Creator's son, though in other faiths it also holds a top-tier position. This energy has existed since the unified field itself has existed, and it’ll exist forever. It stretches across the entire cosmos, present in every tiny speck, in every living being, and even in dead matter. So, it’s everywhere around us and within us, but you can only really make contact with it if it decides to let you. Unlike other energies, this specific system is made up of a huge number of independent energies—about 800 of them, I think—that all work together. As an eternal spiritual energy, they carry out a ton of vital tasks that keep the cosmos functioning normally. But for us humans, the most significant part is the life wave that spreads through the universe, which is what allows living things to emerge from non-living matter; it carries that built-in program for reproduction, adapting to new environments, and evolving based on those changes. Basically, it’s the energy that creates life, maintains it throughout the universe, and emits that life wave. The Christ energy is also responsible for the relationships between living and non-living beings, which constantly need to stay in harmony.
In that sense, the Christ energy acts as the direct creator of all living beings, whereas the Creator is the creator in a more figurative sense—more like the source of the desire and the idea that the Christ energy then goes out and makes real.

Alright, I'll get into Jesus in the next post:

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Benjamin Taylor6 said:So, why was Christ born in the first place? It seems he was brought into this world specifically to be sacrificed. And why the sacrifice? Well, to pay the debt for our sins through his own suffering. We look back at Adam and Eve—they stumbled, and now we’re all just living out the consequences of that original sin they passed down to us. Honestly, it’s a pretty bizarre doctrine when you really sit down and chew on it! The idea that Jesus has to descend into this world just to endure agony and die... it’s intense. He pays this cosmic ransom to pull humanity away from eternal death—essentially buying back our souls from our mistakes. But then you have to ask: who exactly is receiving this ransom? I suppose it would be His Father in heaven. Now, what does "ransom" even mean in a practical sense? If someone were kidnapped in downtown Chicago, for instance, a ransom is the cash or value handed over to the kidnappers to get the child back safely. In our theological scenario, the "children" are the children of God, but the currency isn't dollars or gold. The ransom is nothing less than a life. Specifically, it's the life of Jesus Christ. He offers His very existence to His Father to pull people out of their sin. It feels like this strange celestial contract: the Father and the Son strike a deal where the best path forward involves someone paying with their life—and that someone happens to be the Son himself. And the Father accepts the life of His own Son as payment. Why on earth would He need such a bloody, painful ransom? What’s the point? Look, God created humanity, and humans turned their backs on Him. But God loves every single individual so deeply that He doesn't want us to suffer. He wants us saved. So, the Son of God has to be born into this valley of tears and die for mankind. This whole concept of self-sacrifice is utterly disorienting. You could almost mistake God the Father for some ancient pagan deity to whom people offer blood sacrifices—like a parent offering their own child! God offering His Son to Himself?! To me, it’s a complete paradox. It's one of those mysteries of faith that sits atop all other mysteries. When I’ve spoken with Muslim believers, they find this whole thing completely nonsensical. Even some smaller Christian denominations tend to agree. Personally, I’ve never gone head-to-head with priests over this specific issue—mostly because whenever something defies all logic, they just fall back on that famous line: "it's a mystery of faith."
It is a bit strange, though, how Indian philosophy offers such an elegant explanation for the function of atonement—what Christ achieved through His suffering on the Cross. Over in India, they have this concept of karma to explain why people suffer for their transgressions. It's basically the law of action and reaction—the same stuff we study in physics—but applied to how a human interacts with the universe. If you cause pain to your neighbor, that pain eventually finds its way back to you. Humans are inherently flawed, and because of those flaws, they face punishment in hell or purgatory. However, Indian philosophy suggests that a person can actually bypass that punishment if someone else suffers in their stead. Of course, you won't find any sage willing to jump into the fire just so a sinner can stay wicked. The sinner has to actually recognize their fault and truly repent. Only then does the mechanism of atonement kick in—which, in this context, is the suffering endured by Jesus Christ. The Son of God is the one who loves His followers immensely. His followers are essentially anyone who embraces His teachings—all Christians who believe in Christ. Based on that faith, combined with sincere repentance, the sinner enters a community where they aren't held accountable for their past misdeeds. They won't face the "karmic" penalty because their teacher—in this case, Christ—suffered in their place.

Look, I didn't crucify Him. None of my friends did. He was crucified by the Jewish authorities because His teachings didn't fit within their established worldview. It's similar to how the Inquisition burned Giordano Bruno—power protecting its own status quo. Honestly, though, I find that yoga philosophy offers a much more coherent explanation regarding redemption. This whole concept of Original Sin is completely paradoxical. You should go back and re-read my previous post.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:Look, I didn't crucify Him. None of my friends did. He was crucified by the Jewish authorities because His teachings didn't fit within their established worldview. It's similar to how the Inquisition burned Giordano Bruno—power protecting its own status quo. Honestly, though, I find that yoga philosophy offers a much more coherent explanation regarding redemption. This whole concept of Original Sin is completely paradoxical. You should go back and re-read my previous post.

Ronald Rogers27 said:That's an interesting theory... This spiritual energy called Christ... Spread uniformly throughout the entire Vasiona... And it only connects with individuals if it feels like it?! 🤷

Quoting: "This system is made up of a massive number of independent energies (about 800) working together."

Can you go into much more detail on that sentence, Gregory Jackson? I’d love for you to break down those independent energies for us and explain how they act on their own while also working in superposition! 👍

Quoting further: "As an eternal spiritual force, these energies handle a huge range of vital tasks that keep the Cosmos functioning normally."

What kind of tasks are we talking about? And how exactly do they balance everything out to keep the Cosmos running smoothly? 🤷

Ronald Rogers27

Zachary Gonzalez8 said:

Gregory Jackson said:So, I was thinking about this, and honestly, I feel like that spiritual energy is basically the backbone of the entire Cosmos, you know? It’s tucked away in every single little speck of existence out there, and it's right inside us too, kind of like how the Creator is woven into everything. I guess you could look at it like this massive, intricate web—it's almost like the Creator kept adding more and more layers of energy to the mix whenever the universe needed something new to happen during creation, so all these different energies sort of act as one big unit instead of just doing their own thing independently. It’s pretty wild to imagine, but maybe at some point, all that energy flows through what people call a central trunk, and then it just branches back out everywhere across the universe again.

I guess you could say that if you hit the right spiritual frequency—and actually realize that even doing so is an option, which, let's be honest, most people don't even wrap their heads around—you can basically tap into all sorts of energies. It’s kind of wild, really. You just put out a request for a specific kind of "intervention," and then these spiritual energies sort of weigh in on whether they want to answer you at all, how loud they should shout back, or maybe even decide to send a completely different energy that fits the vibe better for some reason. It all happens in a literal heartbeat, and the response you get back is just as instant. Like, personally, I might pray for some healing or ask for a little nudge in my spiritual growth, and I'll definitely feel a session coming back my way, but more often than not, I don't even bother naming a specific energy. I just leave it open, and the universe decides which force is best suited to show up for me. But, I should probably mention that what I get back isn't always this massive, earth-shattering thing, because there’s this fundamental rule you have to keep in mind: the strength of the response—the actual impact it has—really depends on your own spiritual level. So, I suppose the more spiritually evolved a person becomes, the more they're able to receive, and eventually, that leads to having much greater abilities. At the same time, though, just making these requests and getting those responses actually helps lift your vibration, cleanses your aura, and makes your thoughts way more positive, which I think ultimately makes us all a bit healthier and more spiritually aligned.

So, check out this image—it basically shows how a request or an intention travels toward the core of this specific energy, like a sort of energetic wave hitting the "trunk" of the source, and then that energy flows right back out to the person who's sick. I guess you could say it works pretty much the same way as remote healing does, if that makes sense, which I think it kind of does.



So, I was thinking about these massive, global energies—you know, the kind of stuff that just moves the needle on a cosmic scale—and honestly, their whole purpose is just so incredibly multifaceted that we probably couldn't even wrap our heads around all of it if we tried, I guess. But from what I can gather, it’s mostly about generating these specific types of energy for super niche tasks, like maybe crafting the early blueprints for bioluminescent organisms or setting up entirely new energetic hubs and complexes out there in space. It gets pretty wild when you think about it, because they might be involved in shaping dead matter, breathing life into non-material or physical beings, or even sending out this massive life wave that basically jumpstarts inanimate matter into existence. And then, there's the heavy lifting, like overseeing the birth of stars and planets, or even acting like some kind of cosmic gardener by moving living organisms from one planet to another where the conditions are just right, so life can actually take root or maybe speed up its evolution. Plus, they're probably working behind the scenes to try and dodge or soften the blow of those inevitable, huge cataclysmic events that just seem to happen sometimes, etc., etc.

I mean, I really think the whole Universe is being steered by something, you know? Like, there’s this massive superintelligence behind the scenes taking care of everything, even if most people just assume we're floating around alone and that everything happens purely by accident—just "nature" doing its thing or whatever. Sure, some stuff probably runs on autopilot, like evolution and all that, but I guess those processes are actually just running within a much larger system that laid down the foundation and wrote the initial code to get it all moving.

Gregory Jackson said:So, I was thinking about this, and honestly, I feel like that spiritual energy is basically the backbone of the entire Cosmos, you know? It’s tucked away in every single little speck of existence out there, and it's right inside us too, kind of like how the Creator is woven into everything. I guess you could look at it like this massive, intricate web—it's almost like the Creator kept adding more and more layers of energy to the mix whenever the universe needed something new to happen during creation, so all these different energies sort of act as one big unit instead of just doing their own thing independently. It’s pretty wild to imagine, but maybe at some point, all that energy flows through what people call a central trunk, and then it just branches back out everywhere across the universe again.

I guess you could say that if you hit the right spiritual frequency—and actually realize that even doing so is an option, which, let's be honest, most people don't even wrap their heads around—you can basically tap into all sorts of energies. It’s kind of wild, really. You just put out a request for a specific kind of "intervention," and then these spiritual energies sort of weigh in on whether they want to answer you at all, how loud they should shout back, or maybe even decide to send a completely different energy that fits the vibe better for some reason. It all happens in a literal heartbeat, and the response you get back is just as instant. Like, personally, I might pray for some healing or ask for a little nudge in my spiritual growth, and I'll definitely feel a session coming back my way, but more often than not, I don't even bother naming a specific energy. I just leave it open, and the universe decides which force is best suited to show up for me. But, I should probably mention that what I get back isn't always this massive, earth-shattering thing, because there’s this fundamental rule you have to keep in mind: the strength of the response—the actual impact it has—really depends on your own spiritual level. So, I suppose the more spiritually evolved a person becomes, the more they're able to receive, and eventually, that leads to having much greater abilities. At the same time, though, just making these requests and getting those responses actually helps lift your vibration, cleanses your aura, and makes your thoughts way more positive, which I think ultimately makes us all a bit healthier and more spiritually aligned.

So, check out this image—it basically shows how a request or an intention travels toward the core of this specific energy, like a sort of energetic wave hitting the "trunk" of the source, and then that energy flows right back out to the person who's sick. I guess you could say it works pretty much the same way as remote healing does, if that makes sense, which I think it kind of does.



So, I was thinking about these massive, global energies—you know, the kind of stuff that just moves the needle on a cosmic scale—and honestly, their whole purpose is just so incredibly multifaceted that we probably couldn't even wrap our heads around all of it if we tried, I guess. But from what I can gather, it’s mostly about generating these specific types of energy for super niche tasks, like maybe crafting the early blueprints for bioluminescent organisms or setting up entirely new energetic hubs and complexes out there in space. It gets pretty wild when you think about it, because they might be involved in shaping dead matter, breathing life into non-material or physical beings, or even sending out this massive life wave that basically jumpstarts inanimate matter into existence. And then, there's the heavy lifting, like overseeing the birth of stars and planets, or even acting like some kind of cosmic gardener by moving living organisms from one planet to another where the conditions are just right, so life can actually take root or maybe speed up its evolution. Plus, they're probably working behind the scenes to try and dodge or soften the blow of those inevitable, huge cataclysmic events that just seem to happen sometimes, etc., etc.

I mean, I really think the whole Universe is being steered by something, you know? Like, there’s this massive superintelligence behind the scenes taking care of everything, even if most people just assume we're floating around alone and that everything happens purely by accident—just "nature" doing its thing or whatever. Sure, some stuff probably runs on autopilot, like evolution and all that, but I guess those processes are actually just running within a much larger system that laid down the foundation and wrote the initial code to get it all moving.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:If you've got the energy, go check out my comment on the previous page.

Ronald Rogers27 said:That’s a really interesting point. What’s the actual baseline for that spiritual level needed to make contact? And I’m a bit lost on how you actually "ask" the Cosmos's spiritual energy? Is it through petitions? Like prayers in an American Church? Or just asking a simple question? Or maybe a series of questions?

Do these spiritual energies always respond based on your level, or do they sometimes just stay silent? 😬

Do you actually need to know all these different spiritual energies? Do you have to name them? And what does this "Cosmic Spirituality" actually mean—those levels you mentioned? If individual spiritual powers exist at the level of these Cosmic spiritual energies, does that mean if you can communicate with them directly, you are virtually spiritually Immortal? Does it mean your Soul goes into the "backbone" of the Cosmos itself after death?🤷

Ronald Rogers27

Ronald Rogers27 said:That’s a really interesting point. What’s the actual baseline for that spiritual level needed to make contact? And I’m a bit lost on how you actually "ask" the Cosmos's spiritual energy? Is it through petitions? Like prayers in an American Church? Or just asking a simple question? Or maybe a series of questions?

Do these spiritual energies always respond based on your level, or do they sometimes just stay silent? 😬

Do you actually need to know all these different spiritual energies? Do you have to name them? And what does this "Cosmic Spirituality" actually mean—those levels you mentioned? If individual spiritual powers exist at the level of these Cosmic spiritual energies, does that mean if you can communicate with them directly, you are virtually spiritually Immortal? Does it mean your Soul goes into the "backbone" of the Cosmos itself after death?🤷

Ronald Rogers27

Benjamin Taylor6 said:I’ve spent plenty of time wondering the exact same thing: What is a person actually supposed to DO to reach these "higher" energetic planes? Should they be fasting, praying, meditating, contemplating, practicing yoga poses, or attempting astral projection? So many people pour themselves into these practices only to end up feeling like they haven't gained a single thing. Back in the day, I tried my hand at astral projection using lucid dreaming techniques. After a few months of that, all I got was terrible, shallow sleep because I was obsessed with recording my dreams. I had a notebook and a pen sitting right there on my nightstand. Eventually, I just gave up, and thank God, I started sleeping normally again. Was I doing something wrong? No, I was just trying to follow the instructions to document everything.
I actually wrote about this over on the Kabbalah forum:

Ronald Rogers27 said:That’s a really interesting point. What’s the actual baseline for that spiritual level needed to make contact? And I’m a bit lost on how you actually "ask" the Cosmos's spiritual energy? Is it through petitions? Like prayers in an American Church? Or just asking a simple question? Or maybe a series of questions?

Do these spiritual energies always respond based on your level, or do they sometimes just stay silent? 😬

Do you actually need to know all these different spiritual energies? Do you have to name them? And what does this "Cosmic Spirituality" actually mean—those levels you mentioned? If individual spiritual powers exist at the level of these Cosmic spiritual energies, does that mean if you can communicate with them directly, you are virtually spiritually Immortal? Does it mean your Soul goes into the "backbone" of the Cosmos itself after death?🤷

Ronald Rogers27

Benjamin Taylor6 said:A buddy of mine used to have this little mantra: If I chase after Taoism too hard, it just slips through my fingers. Only, my experience with the Tao is a bit more... erratic. If I go hunting for it, it bolts away from me at a full sprint. But if I stop looking entirely? It starts drifting away at a casual stroll. At this rate, I’ll never actually catch up. Well, after about 20 years of playing this endless game of hide-and-seek with Taoism, his perspective has shifted quite a bit: I'm done chasing the Tao. I'm finished with the hunt. From here on out, let IT be the one to come looking for ME.

P.S.

When you look at the Old Testament, Muslims and Jews don't really have much to complain about. But when it comes to the New Testament? That’s where the real friction starts. For Jewish people, Christ heretic is basically what Giordano Bruno is to Catholics. And for Muslims, Christ is just one of many prophets—nothing more, nothing less.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:A buddy of mine used to have this little mantra: If I chase after Taoism too hard, it just slips through my fingers. Only, my experience with the Tao is a bit more... erratic. If I go hunting for it, it bolts away from me at a full sprint. But if I stop looking entirely? It starts drifting away at a casual stroll. At this rate, I’ll never actually catch up. Well, after about 20 years of playing this endless game of hide-and-seek with Taoism, his perspective has shifted quite a bit: I'm done chasing the Tao. I'm finished with the hunt. From here on out, let IT be the one to come looking for ME.

P.S.

When you look at the Old Testament, Muslims and Jews don't really have much to complain about. But when it comes to the New Testament? That’s where the real friction starts. For Jewish people, Christ heretic is basically what Giordano Bruno is to Catholics. And for Muslims, Christ is just one of many prophets—nothing more, nothing less.

Gregory Jackson said:Benjamin Taylor6, maybe you should just tell your buddy that his whole story is kind of hollow, I mean, it’s basically just filler for people who want to sound deep at a cocktail party, especially if they're into those vague, triple-meaning Zen-style riddles or whatever. I guess if someone actually knows where they're headed in life, they might actually make it there, but if they're totally lost? Well, you might as well just quote Alice in Wonderland to them.

You know, I was just sitting here thinking about that old saying—you know the one, about how if you haven't actually picked a destination, I guess any old road is going to land you somewhere eventually. It’s kind of a wild thought when you really sit with it, isn't it? Like, maybe we spend so much time worrying about whether we're on the "right" path or if we've taken a wrong turn at some random highway exit, but if you don't even have a map or a goal in mind, then the concept of being "lost" sort of loses all its meaning, I suppose. It’s almost kind of liberating, in a messy, chaotic sort of way, to think that wandering aimlessly might just be its own kind of journey, though I guess most people would find that pretty terrifying. But hey, maybe that's the secret to just rolling with the punches and seeing where life takes you!

And then he can't even try to claim that he didn't "find the Tao," you know? Like, he can't really make the excuse that he lost his way or that some guru totally played him for a fool, I guess.

So, I was thinking about this whole mess regarding how different groups view Jesus, and honestly, it’s kind of wild when you really dig into it, I guess. Like, for Jewish people, he isn't exactly the Messiah they’re looking for—they're still waiting for that specific figure to show up, right? And then you look at people from places like India or maybe even over in Egypt, and for them, Jesus is more like this incredibly profound, massive teacher, but definitely not the Son of God. But hey, I mean, that totally makes sense if you think about it, because he didn't actually grow up living in those parts of the world, even though he probably spent his formative years between age sixteen and twenty-eight wandering through places like Tibet or India. People in the East just don't really wrap their heads around things in that specific way, you know? They aren't out there thinking, "Oh, this guy must be the son of Krishna or Vishnu or whoever," so they don't see him through that lens. Still, I suppose that doesn't really change the actual reality of who he was, regardless of how everyone else perceives him.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:Take my neighbor, for instance. She spent twenty-five years as a nun. Every single day she’d head to Mass at the local convent, and then spend her afternoons praying the Rosary. Most of her other time was spent sewing vestments for the priests. She entered the convent when she was twenty, then eventually "left" at forty-five. Now, she lives alone with her retired father—who, granted, doesn't need much help yet, but she’s clearly playing the long game, hoping to secure a family pension down the line. These days, she barely makes it to Sunday Mass. And one of her "great spiritual disciplines"? Buying cheap trashy romance novels at the drugstore and reading them cover to cover. The Bible? She barely remembers to crack it open once a month.
So, there you have it: twenty-five years spent searching for God. Since she couldn't find Him in the convent, she simply gave up on the hunt. Now, let God try finding her instead.

I wrote something along these lines on my blog a while back:

Benjamin Taylor6 said:Since it’s already past midnight here—and I know how these late-night rabbit holes go—I just wanted to drop a quick request for you all to head over to the forum and check out the discussion regarding the book *The Secret*:
WE ARE THE ARCHITECTS OF OUR OWN CIRCUMSTANCES, NOT THE VICTIMS OF THEM.