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What exactly is "homophobia"?

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Participants Brandon Rivera2Gary Patelsilverotter2Ashley Young4Hannah Allen5Ryan Wood98driftingbadger5Alexander Garcia5wearyorca94Sophia Murphy37Jeremy Young19Edward Wilson82placidwolf27Douglas Nelson57Lisa Hernandez3Richard Moore53casualharbor9Anthony Garcia10Emily Robinson4nimblegardener7Anthony Carter4Henry Williamsplacidjackal36Daniel Wilson5 …
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#41 ·
placidjackal36 said:It’s actually wild how you guys managed to fall for such an obvious troll thread. Honestly, don't make me question your collective IQ here. That account was clearly set up just to mess with people on this forum. Have any of you even seen this image before?
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Some things are just painfully obvious.

Yeah, because internet forums are such serious business anyway...
placidwolf27 placidwolf27 Active Member
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#42 ·
Henry Williams said:Do you actually know how to have a civil conversation? What kind of nonsense is this? 👎

Look, let’s be realistic here—if you start throwing a tantrum over someone scoring a goal, what kind of sane person reacts by just closing their eyes and pretending they aren't there?
I assume you look perfectly normal to the average person, so I find it quite strange that you'd suggest people would just suddenly ignore your existence simply because a goal was scored...

Maybe some people actually would
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#43 ·
driftingbadger5 said:You don't get privacy in public. Period. I can snap your picture whenever I feel like it and blast it online because, legally, anyone can photograph anyone else in a public space. All you people making out and getting handsy—doesn't matter if you're straight, gay, bi, lesbian, or asexual—you’re the ones asking for it.

Personally, watching a guy and a girl make out in public grossed me out, or two guys doing it, but when it's two girls? That's actually cute.

😉 Keep your junk in your pants until you're home. 😂

I actually happened to be at a restaurant the other day and saw two women share a brief kiss. Later on, we ran into them out on the street, and they were walking arm-in-arm.

They seemed very lovely together, just appearing quite happy and in love.

It was a really nice thing to witness. I suppose they made the city feel a bit brighter.
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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#44 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:Ugh, what a troll. 🤦

I honestly thought we were discussing this as a theoretical matter.

And yeah, I suppose what you're doing is pretty rude. It would probably be much better if you moved over to the Offtopic section or something similar—you know, where you can go ahead and invent problems or "contemplate" abstract concepts.

Lisa Hernandez3 said:In that case, I'm not quite sure why you're even bothering to ask what homophobia is or whether you personally fit the description. You can think whatever you like—there's really no need to waste everyone's time here on the forum. Especially when it seems like the whole topic is just being used as a way to stir the pot and push views that don't actually relate to the question you originally asked in your first post.

Lisa Hernandez3 said:Yeah, we're all participating voluntarily, I suppose. And we have provided answers to your questions.

Could you perhaps explain how your take on public spaces and "appropriate behavior" relates at all to "what is homophobia," which—if I may call you a massive troll—is what you actually set as the topic in your opening post and thread title?

placidjackal36 said:It’s actually wild how you guys managed to fall for such an obvious troll thread. Honestly, don't make me question your collective IQ here. That account was clearly set up just to mess with people on this forum. Have any of you even seen this image before?
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Some things are just painfully obvious.

Yeah, it really is incredible how we fell for a troll. 😬

Anyway, if the account was created specifically to mess around, why hasn't it been permanently banned by now? I'm actually asking that seriously.
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#45 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:Yeah, it really is incredible how we fell for a troll. 😬

Anyway, if the account was created specifically to mess around, why hasn't it been permanently banned by now? I'm actually asking that seriously.

That would be such massive discrimination against everyone who doesn't want to be serious all the time. Like, does anyone actually expect this forum to be 100% serious? Plus, what even makes this trolling...
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#46 ·
Edward Wilson82 said:Homo behavior is just sexual activity with someone of the same sex.

Are you suggesting that if, for instance, two men were walking through Times Square, hugging and fondling each other, it wouldn't trigger any negative reactions from bystanders?
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#47 ·
Edward Wilson82 said:Nah—it's just projection stemming from an inability to accept biological reality.

Are you suggesting that being primitive is biologically predetermined? That you view it as some kind of disorder?
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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#48 ·
Brandon Rivera2 said:That would be such massive discrimination against everyone who doesn't want to be serious all the time. Like, does anyone actually expect this forum to be 100% serious? Plus, what even makes this trolling...

And what about not holding people accountable when they ignore the forum rules or certain guidelines?
I mean, from my perspective—and I could be wrong here—what you’ve been doing in this thread is actually quite rude. It feels like a sort of sneaky way of slipping in those tired, recycled street jokes about gay people, all while masking it under a seemingly sophisticated opening post meant to clarify terminology or, I suppose, some kind of psychological mechanism. You were very careful at first, presenting everything as if you were just deeply concerned with the underlying logic of the topic rather than just trolling. But then, once enough people joined the conversation, the whole thing just unraveled.
If you're looking for a laugh, maybe stick to the joke threads.
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#49 ·
Ryan Wood98 said:Are you suggesting that if, for instance, two men were walking through Times Square, hugging and fondling each other, it wouldn't trigger any negative reactions from bystanders?

I mean, why would two dudes need to be getting aggressive in public anyway?...
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#50 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:And what about not holding people accountable when they ignore the forum rules or certain guidelines?
I mean, from my perspective—and I could be wrong here—what you’ve been doing in this thread is actually quite rude. It feels like a sort of sneaky way of slipping in those tired, recycled street jokes about gay people, all while masking it under a seemingly sophisticated opening post meant to clarify terminology or, I suppose, some kind of psychological mechanism. You were very careful at first, presenting everything as if you were just deeply concerned with the underlying logic of the topic rather than just trolling. But then, once enough people joined the conversation, the whole thing just unraveled.
If you're looking for a laugh, maybe stick to the joke threads.

Man, psychology is basically the funniest PDF and the most hilarious "science" out there... and I'm not even sure what kind of joke this is supposed to be... besides, they moved the whole thread over here anyway, since it originally started in the sex section...
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#51 ·
Brandon Rivera2 said:I mean, why would two dudes need to be getting aggressive in public anyway?...

But wouldn't you consider a football stadium to be a public place?
placidwolf27 placidwolf27 Active Member
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#52 ·
Brandon Rivera2 said:I mean, why would two dudes need to be getting aggressive in public anyway?...

Well, why not... people are free agents in this country, after all...

And honestly, it’s not even like you don't see guys getting aggressive in public all the time—just the other day, I watched two guys nearly flip an entire table at a diner and almost take out everyone's drinks...
Richard Moore53 Richard Moore53 Active Member
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#53 ·
Brandon Rivera2 said:Nah, I’m just wondering what actually defines homophobia and who counts as homophobic versus who doesn't... Like, why did people start linking it to psychology? Is it actually considered some kind of disorder or what...

Honestly, if you aren't keeping up with current events, you'd know that being gay has become the new trend. Nowadays, anyone with even a minor grievance against homosexuality is immediately branded a homophobe. If you don't explicitly cheer them on, you're guilty by association. This whole debate is getting incredibly stale; frankly, everyone is tired of hearing about it.☕
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#54 ·
placidwolf27 said:Well, why not... people are free agents in this country, after all...

And honestly, it’s not even like you don't see guys getting aggressive in public all the time—just the other day, I watched two guys nearly flip an entire table at a diner and almost take out everyone's drinks...

Seriously though, who's actually getting worked up over stuff happening in public? Does everyone really need to witness everything? People are only as free as society lets them be...
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#55 ·
Ryan Wood98 said:But wouldn't you consider a football stadium to be a public place?

I mean, who's actually getting into scraps there anyway...
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#56 ·
Richard Moore53 said:Honestly, if you aren't keeping up with current events, you'd know that being gay has become the new trend. Nowadays, anyone with even a minor grievance against homosexuality is immediately branded a homophobe. If you don't explicitly cheer them on, you're guilty by association. This whole debate is getting incredibly stale; frankly, everyone is tired of hearing about it.☕

I mean, if homophobia is actually a disorder based on irrational fear, then those folks should probably get some help and treatment since they're clearly struggling, rather than just being judged by everyone else...
Lisa Hernandez3 Lisa Hernandez3 Active Member
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#57 ·
Brandon Rivera2 said:Man, psychology is basically the funniest PDF and the most hilarious "science" out there... and I'm not even sure what kind of joke this is supposed to be... besides, they moved the whole thread over here anyway, since it originally started in the sex section...

If that’s how you feel, then maybe this thread isn't really for you either. You could always head back to the other section and vent all about that "joke" you mentioned, so you don't clutter things up here while we talk about homophobia: http://www.forum.us/showthread.php?t=510977

And then Endymion17 shared some moderator insights regarding how much of a troll you are with that rather convenient account of yours, and then just vanished. 😢
Ryan Wood98 Ryan Wood98 Active Member
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#58 ·
I find this thread to be quite helpful, as I suppose I sometimes tend to forget that there are people like alex out there in the world. Threads like this serve as a necessary reminder.☕
Brandon Rivera2 Brandon Rivera2 Active MemberOP
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#59 ·
Lisa Hernandez3 said:If that’s how you feel, then maybe this thread isn't really for you either. You could always head back to the other section and vent all about that "joke" you mentioned, so you don't clutter things up here while we talk about homophobia: http://www.forum.us/showthread.php?t=510977

And then Endymion17 shared some moderator insights regarding how much of a troll you are with that rather convenient account of yours, and then just vanished. 😢

Man, Endymion17 is such a regular at this game...
Edward Wilson82 Edward Wilson82 Member
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#60 ·
Ryan Wood98 said:Are you suggesting that if, for instance, two men were walking through Times Square, hugging and fondling each other, it wouldn't trigger any negative reactions from bystanders?

Of course it will.

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