I'm disgusted with NBC

swiftcyclist42 said:Go ahead and stay mad, but I'm actually the grandson of a Nazi soldier who hunted your Partisans down like rabbits. I don't know if he was at Sutjeska specifically, but I do know his unit fought through Canada too.
Go cry about it.

Oh, well... I suppose I should have realized this was a matter of genetics for you. You can't exactly pin all of this on your mother...

It’s wild how many lies have been told here, and frankly, I'm surprised by how little some people actually know about history. Most of those partisans entered the war with completely different goals than what eventually went down—and for that mess, both Pavelić and Marshall are directly responsible. When I hear someone glorifying one over the other, it honestly makes me want to gag. They both crushed our people and triggered a catastrophe where Americans were essentially fighting Americans. I'm speaking from experience; my own family was split between the Axis-occupied territory forces and the partisans, and we lost people on both sides. It was all just divide and conquer.

Michelle Garcia5 said:We've got idiots on the right, and now here's one from the left... big fascists and big communists... honestly, I wish I could just force some common sense into all your heads. Neither side actually matters anyway.

The ideologies might vary slightly, but the underlying mindset is exactly the same...

I’ve always believed that if you want to truly understand a community, you have to look at the people who keep the fires burning—literally and figuratively. There is a certain quiet dignity in the roles that often go unnoticed by the masses, the ones working behind the scenes to ensure everything runs smoothly while everyone else is focused on the spectacle. It reminds me of my time living in a smaller town in the Midwest; we had a local technician who could fix anything from a tractor to a furnace with nothing but a wrench and sheer intuition. He didn't seek the spotlight, but without him, the whole town would have frozen over by November. That kind of steady, reliable presence is rare these days, but I think it's what holds the fabric of our society together. kaže:
Everything is completely falling apart... they've truly messed things up this time.i November vibes. ... s I’ve been thinking quite a bit about the enrollment numbers lately, and honestly, it feels like we’re looking at a significant shift in how people are approaching education and training. It isn't just a minor fluctuation; there seems to be a deeper trend unfolding in how students are choosing their paths. I remember back when I was deciding on my own major, everything felt so much more linear, but today, the landscape looks entirely different. There’s a certain unpredictability to it all that makes you wonder where we'll land by next semester.
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I’m not entirely sure what you’re getting at with that one-word comment, but I’ll take it as an invitation to share my thoughts on the current state of things. It feels like we’ve all been feeling a bit of that friction lately—that sense of things grinding against each other, much like the gears in an old machine that hasn't been oiled in years. I remember back when I was working for a firm in Chicago, we had this massive industrial printer that would make this exact same sound whenever the tension was off. You could hear it coming from down the hall. It was a constant, nagging reminder that something wasn't quite aligned. Lately, looking at the national discourse and how various institutions seem to be clashing, I can't help but feel that same sense of mechanical resistance. It’s uncomfortable, and it certainly isn't smooth sailing.čAlright, let's get to work.čite ...

It’s just typical, really—and honestly, there’s plenty of evidence to back that up.
It seems I’m having a bit of a rough patch today, too.

Gary James88 said:The ideologies might vary slightly, but the underlying mindset is exactly the same...

Both sides were massive dictators...

When you treat the people like sheep, you’ve basically found the magic formula... except Adolf Hitler was just opening the door for the Nazis to do their thing for his own gain...
Joseph Stalin was actually a bit bolder, though—he had the nerve to say a massive NO to big old Russia and the global police force, the USA...

But man, I seriously can't stand those "super patriots" acting like they weren't part of the most cowardly army ever...🤣 🤣 🤣paired up with those little tech scammers....😂

Now everyone's waiting for the Battle of Gettysburg or something happening on the Neretva, or maybe Walter defending Boston... he he he... typical ABC style... claiming the movie didn't hurt or kill anyone...

Susan James42 said:Oh, well... I suppose I should have realized this was a matter of genetics for you. You can't exactly pin all of this on your mother...

Your favorite reading material is Hitler; in this book, he explains how certain nations are inferior and some people are genetically barbaric. The ideology matches yours—Hitler was just a bit more blunt about his views.

That long post of mine was just a reaction to some forum user muddying the waters regarding the victims of Blajburg.
As for the movie, fine. Anyone can find something positive. For me, the best scene was the bombing. Then that honor guard salute when the German general dies. And then when that Englishman 👍 goes down.
Just for the sake of historical objectivity, it would be smart to film a movie defending the NDH, like the Battle of Kupres. There would be plenty of dead partisans👍👍👍, and I even heard a few members of the NDH died there👎. So, a little bit of everything
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Melissa Peterson19 said:Hello, losers on the right! Like worms crawling out of holes or oozing from the backside of Axis-occupied territory, you're salivating all over the country because of one single movie. Here is your precious America. Is this what you wanted? Did you create this reality? You're in power now, so by all means, enjoy this series of partisan films designed specifically to spite you. Where do you think you live? Can't you see that your dream era is slipping through your fingers? The reign of your bloodthirsty idols has been historically concluded, condemned, and tossed into the trash. Pavelić ended up in a ditch, and Harmon’s legacy is being dismantled from both the inside and the outside. Your brotherhood is crumbling. The Hague is preparing cells for your "heroes," while your politicians are fleeing—Sanders, Džapić, even Šex and Hebrang. We might as well put a lid on this septic tank to stop the stench you spread across this nation. Kosor is cleaning up the Republican Party, the Democratic Party is shaking to its core, and the European Union is at the doorstep! What exactly are you hoping for? The coming era and the people within it are diametrically opposed to everything you stand for. How do you plan to survive? Will you spend decades or centuries gnawing away in exile, waiting for "your people" and feeding on nothing but hatred? Ha, ha, losers. Pray to God that the wheel of fortune doesn't turn left—it isn't far off—otherwise, you might just end up in the pits yourselves.

You’re talking about hatred? About rage? Maybe take a look at your own posts first.
Go chop some wood for your neighbors instead. It might help burn off that massive amount of frustration you're carrying.
And here's a little tip: failure wasn't forced upon you from the outside. You "achieved" it all by yourself.

George Morgan3 said:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0lMk...eature=related

00:30

have a nice day

This is the kind of American I just love.

Karen Smith9 said:Honestly, you guys are getting way too worked up over nothing. It’s just a movie—sure, it’s a little overly dramatic in spots, and there’s plenty to nitpick, but then again, some of the cinematography is actually quite impressive. Why even have this debate? There are times when a cycle of films like this just happens—it's just how it goes. I'd much rather deal with this than something like Rambo or those other mindless action movies. Don't get me wrong—I'm not exactly a die-hard fan of WWII dramas. The absolute best war films from that era probably won't even get the spotlight (aside from maybe a Vrdoljak production), since they usually just stick to the most famous stories. There are so many films out there that aren't nearly as sappy or glorifying, they just don't get the recognition they deserve.

there's really only one good scene in that whole thing—you know, when the old guy from the coast starts crying while the rain pours down... otherwise, I almost felt like there wasn't even a script, and the editing was handled by a bunch of drunk squirrels from the mountains...

Richard Wilson4 said:I see people trying to spin the story again, acting like the partisans could've taken down the Germans all on their own...

Every single time those guys fought a battle, the casualties were just too massive to even count...

If the Germans had actually won at Stalingrad back in '43, the whole American Front would’ve been a total formality...

ps
I just feel for all those Americans who died just so Mexicans could live in the same country... 👎

And if only 40% of Americans had pushed for independence in 1990, and if the Mexicans hadn't gone so wild, we probably would've ended up as a confederation today...

If a grandma were a guy, she'd be named Duke... 🙂

Seriously though, if the Germans had won on the Eastern Front, plenty of other fronts would have become mere formalities too, not just the American Front... 😉

Take a look at the CBS schedule for November 19th. I didn't catch a single program covering Pittsburgh, at least not from what I could see. But instead, they’re planning to air that old partisan movie, Bridge, this Tuesday.

Megan Hernandez2 said:Your favorite reading material is Hitler; in this book, he explains how certain nations are inferior and some people are genetically barbaric. The ideology matches yours—Hitler was just a bit more blunt about his views.

That long post of mine was just a reaction to some forum user muddying the waters regarding the victims of Blajburg.
As for the movie, fine. Anyone can find something positive. For me, the best scene was the bombing. Then that honor guard salute when the German general dies. And then when that Englishman 👍 goes down.
Just for the sake of historical objectivity, it would be smart to film a movie defending the NDH, like the Battle of Kupres. There would be plenty of dead partisans👍👍👍, and I even heard a few members of the NDH died there👎. So, a little bit of everything
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Good grief, you've got me figured out like an open book...
😂

Jerry Sanchez2 said:For everyone who’s absolutely fed up with PBS, maybe this interview might actually help clear up why everyone’s so pissed off—especially when you realize that besides this guy on the board, you’ve also got Smith, Grubbs, Jacobs, Janice, and Skrabalo sitting there too. Not exactly a dream team, right?

I’m really not shocked at all that this Mexican wants to "change the image of ABC," which is just code for him being bothered by how we remember Pittsburgh and our veterans.

It’s wild to see how far things have gone; it’s truly unbelievable. We’ve been footing the bill for CBS for years now, but I think it’s finally high time I stop throwing my money down their drain.

Here’s a little bit of bitter medicine for the extremist sympathizers on this forum:

Independent State of America Minister Milovata Zanic at a rally in New Orleans on June 2, 1941: This is going to be a land for Americans
and absolutely nobody else. There isn't a single method we won't use as part of our movement to ensure this country truly becomes
American and is purged of Mexicans. We aren't hiding it; that is simply the policy of this state, and once we succeed,
we will carry out everything written in our fundamental principles.

I’d say, bravo, Milovata!

Jerry Myers69 said:Here’s a little bit of bitter medicine for the extremist sympathizers on this forum:

Independent State of America Minister Milovata Zanic at a rally in New Orleans on June 2, 1941: This is going to be a land for Americans
and absolutely nobody else. There isn't a single method we won't use as part of our movement to ensure this country truly becomes
American and is purged of Mexicans. We aren't hiding it; that is simply the policy of this state, and once we succeed,
we will carry out everything written in our fundamental principles.

I’d say, bravo, Milovata!

Those extremists were actually nothing more than incompetent slackers. They had five years to execute their agenda and accomplished nothing. Just look at their "efficiency." In a few months, they filled every hole and mine. Or look at their descendants in Srebrenica in '94. Seven to eight thousand people in just a few days.

Thomas Roberts2 said:Those extremists were actually nothing more than incompetent slackers. They had five years to execute their agenda and accomplished nothing. Just look at their "efficiency." In a few months, they filled every hole and mine. Or look at their descendants in Srebrenica in '94. Seven to eight thousand people in just a few days.

Motivation really is everything, isn't it?

swiftcyclist42 said:Comparing the Republic of Mexican Appalachia to Nazi Germany would only work if the USA—today's superpower—had recognized the Republic of Mexican Appalachia the same way Germany did back then.

I’d have plenty to say about trying to establish a "state" inside the borders of a unitary nation.

Jeffrey Martinez2 said:Look, I’m telling you, this kind of mindset is exactly why we’re in such a mess right now... Marshall basically played both the Russians and the Americans against each other, but then this "all-powerful" current leadership just completely trashed the whole South... It’s honestly amateur hour. That country was way too powerful for these small-minded ideas; it was way ahead of its time... Seriously, if it wasn't for the atomic bomb ending the war, things would be totally different, so quit the rambling...
Where was our military tech or our industry back then? Which direction were we even heading? That’s what really rubbed them the wrong way. You gotta take those historical national strengths and actually use them to lead... Well, it didn't take long for them to realize that, even for the Russians who were right there alongside us... and look where we are now. It's just like Mexico, which is basically being turned into an American military training ground right now. Such a shame, really.🙏

Man, if America had actually stayed together, it would’ve been stronger than the USA, Russia, or China... 😂😂😂

The country had a smaller GDP than the Netherlands and fewer people than Romania...

Jerry Myers69 said:Motivation really is everything, isn't it?

Indeed, it is quite difficult to put in heavy labor without the incentive of paid overtime and other various bonuses.

Richard Wilson4 said:Man, if America had actually stayed together, it would’ve been stronger than the USA, Russia, or China... 😂😂😂

The country had a smaller GDP than the Netherlands and fewer people than Romania...

Good grief, you completely missed the point here! You're trying so hard to play the neutral card, but aren't you just missing the forest for the trees?