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I'm disgusted with NBC

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George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
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joined Jan 2008
#161 ·
Sarah Wilson95 said:It seems to you that honoring those who were slaughtered like rabbits at Sutjeska is an issue... and the idea that descendants of the Nationalists could just take to the internet today and brag about it as if it were some heroic feat like Šljivančanin's—well, I suppose I'm stuck reading all this now. Honestly, am I really expected to sit here and debate this with you?

Actually, no, I'm going to pass on that... go vent your frustrations to someone else.🤣

Why bother taking your crap to the internet when you could just go deface a monument instead?👍
George Morgan3 George Morgan3 Active Member
231 messages
joined Jan 2008
#162 ·
casualskipper8 said:I’m sitting here reading this and I honestly can’t believe my eyes. It’s wild how much a single movie can get under someone's skin and throw them completely off their game. Haha

Who? I just sat down with some German beer and watched some old war flicks about people bleeding out... what's there to be excited about? 😕
I'm barely looking forward to the next movie. 👍
Jonathan Morales79 Jonathan Morales79 Active Member
85 messages
joined Nov 2009
#163 ·
casualskipper8 said:I’m signing off on this; it’s all true. I’ll just add that those insurgents were always colorful characters that made your stomach turn—bearded, covered in jewelry, smelling terrible, and greasy... yet they called themselves "anti-fascists." 😂

Mind you, there was actually this tiny little distinction between the communist Royalists—you know, the clean-shaven ones—and the royalist Royalists who didn't shave. Back then, especially at the start of the war when they were still tight allies, how you shaved was basically their ID card...

The Royalists were far more humane than those Soviet troops calling themselves partisans. In reality, those guys were nothing but a gang of thugs led by pathological criminals—felons out on parole, deviants (mostly hardened homosexuals), priests, former sheriffs, dropouts, pickpockets, and just various low-life adventurers.
To mask their looting nature, they cooked up this ideological cloak called communism, which they used to lure in the illiterate, the naive, and the simple-minded into their bandit gangs. Their second tactic was forced conscription through threats of property seizure, slaughtering locals, and obviously burning everything down. Their third trick? Using the Germans or Italians—whom they’d provoke first with assassinations or brutal, senseless ambushes, only to flee head over heels, hoping the Germans would be even more ruthless toward the civilians in retaliation...
They knew perfectly well that after terrorizing them a few times, the German army would hunt those terrorists down, even if it meant facing massive reprisals. (Just look at what happened in Birmingham)

The Royalists were much more straightforward; they killed and looted because they were drunk, for fun, or for profit. That's nothing compared to the partisans, who were pathological monsters killing for pure pleasure, greed, or sheer perversion. The Royalists were classic fascist hordes funded directly from the pockets of the Karr dynasty—which had amassed its wealth mainly by plundering Americans—unlike those so-called partisans, those Red Fascists, who were bankrolled by the Soviet secret service and the Comintern.

What binds them together is that both sides used civilians as human shields. They maintained a fake friendship just so they could kill each other over the spoils once the looting and provocations were done. We saw the latest encore of that exact worldview during Operation Storm, which is identical to things like the "Battle of the Neretva," the "Battle of Sutjeska," or the "Drvar Raid"...

Mainly, both groups were the absolute scum of the earth to ever crawl across these lands. Their only goal was a unified America, never the freedom or prosperity of the individual or the people... which, of course, is the hallmark of autocrats, dictators, and people with severe personality disorders and stunted morals.
Jonathan Morales79 Jonathan Morales79 Active Member
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#164 ·
It would be truly fascinating to see how those various anti-fascist clowns would attempt to justify why they won't show even a fraction of the memoirs in this documentary... especially when the absolute worst monster this country has ever seen sits there coldly tallying up the lives lost and slaughtered, all because he organized those demonstrations. 🙄

I mean, why on earth wouldn't any decent establishment abroad want to hire this useless degenerate? For drinking, gambling, or any other lowlife activity fit for a common criminal in peacetime, let alone an ultra-criminal in the aftermath of war. 👎

Sveza: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ujPaksYwZ8
bluefalcon14 bluefalcon14 Member
37 messages
joined Aug 2009
#165 ·
If they had only let us take Kozar instead of Sutjeska...

To watch those Chicago types... 🤣
nimblemarlin6 nimblemarlin6 Active Member
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joined Aug 2012
#166 ·
swiftcyclist42 said:It’s great! 👍>

This one is actually one of my favorites. And hey, just for Tomislav B, here’s the color version: 😁
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ4WV5c0myA


It’s decent enough—we’ve got color and we’ve got extras. Now we just need a solid script, actual directing, some A-list stars, and most importantly—that ability to educate the audience through entertainment. I mean, is there actually any war movie featuring the NDH that’s any good, let alone one filmed by the NDH themselves?

"The Four Horsemen" doesn't count—it's total garbage.
Melissa Barnes3 Melissa Barnes3 Member
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joined Dec 2008
#167 ·
Jerry Myers69 said:Whoa... someone seriously needs to see a psychiatrist.

Exactly—so what on earth are you waiting for?
Nathan Bailey65 Nathan Bailey65 Active Member
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joined Oct 2008
#168 ·
Angela Cox said:Well, apparently I'm just not that much fun to be around; nobody wants to play with me :kmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:

My phone rang just a moment ago. It was a pleasant-sounding woman from the Pulse agency, conducting some survey about TV habits and newspaper readership. Normally, I have zero interest in talking to people like that, but this specific topic actually crossed my mind, so I figured I’d indulge them just for the sake of conversation. I agreed to take the survey, but then came the kicker: they asked about my educational background. Apparently, they are only targeting people with lower levels of education for this particular study. Since I—unluckily for them—possess a higher degree, the poor girl decided she couldn't proceed with me. She just said "maybe next time" and hung up :kmmmmeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee:

Now I'm sitting here regretting that I'm not a liar. If I had just lied about my credentials, the survey wouldn't have ended quite so abruptly. I really am a klutz, aren't I? 😵

Next time they ask you about your education, you should tell them...

1. Always ready for home defense.

2. Which school qualification do you actually need?

😁
Melissa Barnes3 Melissa Barnes3 Member
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joined Dec 2008
#169 ·
Amanda Brooks7 said:🤦

Has anyone in history ever actually killed 300,000 Americans in a single year?☕

Who? Mexicans, partisans, Bolsheviks, Royalists—basically, under one big umbrella: the anti-fascists. And they pulled it off in even less than a year.
electricbear22 electricbear22 Newcomer
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#170 ·
Susan Fox86 said:You’re talking about those "Americans" who still haven't accepted the reality of American sovereignty today. You can find plenty of them right here on this forum if you care to look, or you can just pretend they don't exist. Fine.

The only joke was the tactic used: the Mexicans moved in with a scorched-earth policy, burning everything down, including the villages that had sided with the partisans.

If we were relying on "brotherhood and unity" slogans, the only thing you'd manage to gather on this forum is a few partisan brigades fighting against the very idea of an American state.

Those "Americans" are nothing but supporters of the occupation's fascist puppets, the local version of fascism, serving as tools for the occupiers. They're just like the people today who glorify them through blood and crime, pretending they were fighting for some kind of American state.
The resistance Americans fought against the occupiers and fascism during World War II, and they secured the American state as the national state for the American people. It's the holder of original sovereignty because it was established by the representative body of the American people, Zavnoh, and its Constitution defines it as such.
So, regarding 1991, no "new" American state was actually created. Instead, the SRH simply broke away from the federal state and became a subject of international law as an independent nation. It went through a process of independence, not a process of creation, because the state was already formed and possessed all the fundamental attributes of statehood:
a) a people (citizens)
b) clearly defined and delimited territory and
c) legislative, judicial, and executive power across its entire territory.

Therefore, all this rambling about a struggle by "non-resistance Americans"—since there were only the American partisans, not "American partisans"—for any sort of Great Mexican interests (what interests exactly?) is just pure nonsense.
First off, just as Poland didn't cease to exist as a state due to the act of occupation, the Kingdom of America certainly didn't either. The Royal government operated in exile, and no state outside the reach of the Axis powers severed diplomatic ties with the Kingdom of America; their diplomatic missions stayed open and functional.
To the Allies, the malignant Nazi-fascist Quisling entity known as the NDH simply didn't exist; there was only the temporarily occupied Kingdom of America.
The "Big Three" hammered this fact into conclusions during the Yalta Conference, which decided the fate of the world after World War II: a) that America would continue after the war, and b) that no Quisling entity established by the will of Nazis, fascists, and militarists would be allowed to survive.

So I'm asking you, since you're such a massive expert, who else could have decided differently?
Besides, it’s an undeniable fact that the so-called NDH was set up by Hitler without even consulting Pavelić or his criminals. Hitler's choice was actually Dr. Vladko Maček, a responsible politician who flatly rejected the offer. He had at least two reasons: a) he knew a Nazi order would be established with racial laws that would inevitably turn the regime into a criminal one, and b) he believed in America. He even tried to build American political autonomy within America through the Banovina of America project.
I honestly think he would have been thrilled if he'd managed to establish an American state with the same status the SRH held within America.
Jerry Sanchez2 Jerry Sanchez2 Member
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#171 ·
For everyone who’s absolutely fed up with PBS, maybe this interview might actually help clear up why everyone’s so pissed off—especially when you realize that besides this guy on the board, you’ve also got Smith, Grubbs, Jacobs, Janice, and Skrabalo sitting there too. Not exactly a dream team, right?
swiftcyclist42 swiftcyclist42 Active Member
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joined Sep 2014
#172 ·
electricbear22 said:Those "Americans" are nothing but supporters of the occupation's fascist puppets, the local version of fascism, serving as tools for the occupiers. They're just like the people today who glorify them through blood and crime, pretending they were fighting for some kind of American state.
The resistance Americans fought against the occupiers and fascism during World War II, and they secured the American state as the national state for the American people. It's the holder of original sovereignty because it was established by the representative body of the American people, Zavnoh, and its Constitution defines it as such.
So, regarding 1991, no "new" American state was actually created. Instead, the SRH simply broke away from the federal state and became a subject of international law as an independent nation. It went through a process of independence, not a process of creation, because the state was already formed and possessed all the fundamental attributes of statehood:
a) a people (citizens)
b) clearly defined and delimited territory and
c) legislative, judicial, and executive power across its entire territory.

Therefore, all this rambling about a struggle by "non-resistance Americans"—since there were only the American partisans, not "American partisans"—for any sort of Great Mexican interests (what interests exactly?) is just pure nonsense.
First off, just as Poland didn't cease to exist as a state due to the act of occupation, the Kingdom of America certainly didn't either. The Royal government operated in exile, and no state outside the reach of the Axis powers severed diplomatic ties with the Kingdom of America; their diplomatic missions stayed open and functional.
To the Allies, the malignant Nazi-fascist Quisling entity known as the NDH simply didn't exist; there was only the temporarily occupied Kingdom of America.
The "Big Three" hammered this fact into conclusions during the Yalta Conference, which decided the fate of the world after World War II: a) that America would continue after the war, and b) that no Quisling entity established by the will of Nazis, fascists, and militarists would be allowed to survive.

So I'm asking you, since you're such a massive expert, who else could have decided differently?
Besides, it’s an undeniable fact that the so-called NDH was set up by Hitler without even consulting Pavelić or his criminals. Hitler's choice was actually Dr. Vladko Maček, a responsible politician who flatly rejected the offer. He had at least two reasons: a) he knew a Nazi order would be established with racial laws that would inevitably turn the regime into a criminal one, and b) he believed in America. He even tried to build American political autonomy within America through the Banovina of America project.
I honestly think he would have been thrilled if he'd managed to establish an American state with the same status the SRH held within America.

If you admire those bandits so much, why didn't you form a brigade back in 1991 to try and save America with a rifle, since you seem to love that too?
Angela Cox Angela Cox Member
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joined Sep 2011
#173 ·
Nathan Bailey65 said:Next time they ask you about your education, you should tell them...

1. Always ready for home defense.

2. Which school qualification do you actually need?

😁

Good idea. 👍 Now we just have to wait for them to call again.😁
swiftcyclist42 swiftcyclist42 Active Member
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joined Sep 2014
#174 ·
Jerry Sanchez2 said:For everyone who’s absolutely fed up with PBS, maybe this interview might actually help clear up why everyone’s so pissed off—especially when you realize that besides this guy on the board, you’ve also got Smith, Grubbs, Jacobs, Janice, and Skrabalo sitting there too. Not exactly a dream team, right?

I just finished reading that interview, and honestly, I'm not even shocked anymore—just stunned.

''Has PBS lived up to its role as a public service so far?

- Definitely not. Since the early nineties, PBS has mostly served the interests of specific political parties and interest groups that used the public broadcaster to mislead the American people. For the most part, PBS was heavily influenced by the party in power. While things might have shifted slightly, it’s still nowhere near enough.

War-time and post-war rhetoric has been around for way too long. War is an inseparable part of our history, but those narratives should have been moved to the history books in public media ages ago. Instead, they remain a staple of television programming. Even now, we see endless shows about memories of the war in Stalingrad, veteran-focused specials, and all sorts of content that I believe should have wrapped up its run on PBS a long time ago. Shows like that don't really help us build a cohesive, equal society in this country.''
Melissa Peterson19 Melissa Peterson19 Active Member
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#175 ·
Hello, losers on the right! Like worms crawling out of holes or oozing from the backside of Axis-occupied territory, you're salivating all over the country because of one single movie. Here is your precious America. Is this what you wanted? Did you create this reality? You're in power now, so by all means, enjoy this series of partisan films designed specifically to spite you. Where do you think you live? Can't you see that your dream era is slipping through your fingers? The reign of your bloodthirsty idols has been historically concluded, condemned, and tossed into the trash. Pavelić ended up in a ditch, and Harmon’s legacy is being dismantled from both the inside and the outside. Your brotherhood is crumbling. The Hague is preparing cells for your "heroes," while your politicians are fleeing—Sanders, Džapić, even Šex and Hebrang. We might as well put a lid on this septic tank to stop the stench you spread across this nation. Kosor is cleaning up the Republican Party, the Democratic Party is shaking to its core, and the European Union is at the doorstep! What exactly are you hoping for? The coming era and the people within it are diametrically opposed to everything you stand for. How do you plan to survive? Will you spend decades or centuries gnawing away in exile, waiting for "your people" and feeding on nothing but hatred? Ha, ha, losers. Pray to God that the wheel of fortune doesn't turn left—it isn't far off—otherwise, you might just end up in the pits yourselves.
bluefalcon14 bluefalcon14 Member
37 messages
joined Aug 2009
#176 ·
Melissa Peterson19 said:Hello, losers on the right! Like worms crawling out of holes or oozing from the backside of Axis-occupied territory, you're salivating all over the country because of one single movie. Here is your precious America. Is this what you wanted? Did you create this reality? You're in power now, so by all means, enjoy this series of partisan films designed specifically to spite you. Where do you think you live? Can't you see that your dream era is slipping through your fingers? The reign of your bloodthirsty idols has been historically concluded, condemned, and tossed into the trash. Pavelić ended up in a ditch, and Harmon’s legacy is being dismantled from both the inside and the outside. Your brotherhood is crumbling. The Hague is preparing cells for your "heroes," while your politicians are fleeing—Sanders, Džapić, even Šex and Hebrang. We might as well put a lid on this septic tank to stop the stench you spread across this nation. Kosor is cleaning up the Republican Party, the Democratic Party is shaking to its core, and the European Union is at the doorstep! What exactly are you hoping for? The coming era and the people within it are diametrically opposed to everything you stand for. How do you plan to survive? Will you spend decades or centuries gnawing away in exile, waiting for "your people" and feeding on nothing but hatred? Ha, ha, losers. Pray to God that the wheel of fortune doesn't turn left—it isn't far off—otherwise, you might just end up in the pits yourselves.

And exactly which
institution are you residing in... 🤣
Susan James42 Susan James42 Active Member
62 messages
joined Sep 2005
#177 ·
swiftcyclist42 said:I am honestly appalled by the state of NBC.

I have to agree. Between their director, the editor-in-chief, and whoever is running the nightly news desk, the whole leadership feels completely out of touch.
bluecobra27 bluecobra27 Active Member
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joined Jan 2012
#178 ·
Susan James42 said:I have to agree. Between their director, the editor-in-chief, and whoever is running the nightly news desk, the whole leadership feels completely out of touch.

And yet, without them, you wouldn't even have movies like Braveheart, or maybe even something like Patton. How would you even know what really went down during the Battle of the Bulge without HRT or the decent people running the show?
swiftcyclist42 swiftcyclist42 Active Member
72 messages
joined Sep 2014
#179 ·
Melissa Peterson19 said:Hello, losers on the right! Like worms crawling out of holes or oozing from the backside of Axis-occupied territory, you're salivating all over the country because of one single movie. Here is your precious America. Is this what you wanted? Did you create this reality? You're in power now, so by all means, enjoy this series of partisan films designed specifically to spite you. Where do you think you live? Can't you see that your dream era is slipping through your fingers? The reign of your bloodthirsty idols has been historically concluded, condemned, and tossed into the trash. Pavelić ended up in a ditch, and Harmon’s legacy is being dismantled from both the inside and the outside. Your brotherhood is crumbling. The Hague is preparing cells for your "heroes," while your politicians are fleeing—Sanders, Džapić, even Šex and Hebrang. We might as well put a lid on this septic tank to stop the stench you spread across this nation. Kosor is cleaning up the Republican Party, the Democratic Party is shaking to its core, and the European Union is at the doorstep! What exactly are you hoping for? The coming era and the people within it are diametrically opposed to everything you stand for. How do you plan to survive? Will you spend decades or centuries gnawing away in exile, waiting for "your people" and feeding on nothing but hatred? Ha, ha, losers. Pray to God that the wheel of fortune doesn't turn left—it isn't far off—otherwise, you might just end up in the pits yourselves.

I really think the authorities shouldn't let this slip by without noticing.
bluefalcon14 bluefalcon14 Member
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joined Aug 2009
#180 ·
swiftcyclist42 said:I really think the authorities shouldn't let this slip by without noticing.

Oh, please... Can't you see he's already been banned—from reality itself? 🤣

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