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Thompson or Tom?

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David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#201 ·
Harold Taylor2 said:So, according to you, throwing up those salutes isn't being a fascist?? 😕

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYCyI4ZkXLo

http://www.lupiga.com/vijesti/slike/...ki_pozfrav.jpg

This is perfectly normal and acceptable......

He’s got some great songs and he's an exemplary singer..... 🤣

Man, why don't we have more singers like him anymore? 🤣

I honestly can't believe some of the comments I'm seeing on here. 👎

Of course, Tose is better....... in every way..... 👍

Man, why aren't people just as shocked by the fact that some kids over in America are out there listening to Ceca? You know, Arkan's wife—the one whose husband made his fortune by targeting Americans and seizing their property?
Maybe you think Arkan wasn't a criminal? Or perhaps you're acting like Ceca didn't benefit from all that property stolen from Americans by her husband?
Drew Brooks8 Drew Brooks8 Active Member
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#202 ·
David Rogers18 said:So, what’s even the deal with someone showing up to a Thompson concert wearing some extremist hat? Like, what does Tony or any of those other guys have to do with that one girl? It's like seeing someone wear a weird political slogan at a Metallica show—it doesn't really reflect on the band itself, right?
Nothing at all.
So, why even bother putting that out there? Honestly, it just feels like you're being a total hypocrite.☕

Honestly, why on earth would I ever judge someone just because they wanted to pay their final respects to Tony? It seems pretty unnecessary to me, really. 🤷I mean, let's be real, Arkan didn't exactly show up to his funeral.🤷
I mean, honestly, Tony's mom really should have just swatted his hand away when he was acting like that—it's like, come on, what are you even talking about? Since when is being a total jerk something people should be getting a pass for instead of facing the music?
Honestly, I really have no clue what's going on with you.🙄

Snowy, you total hypocrite, that girl in the photo wearing the extremist cap definitely didn't build an empire on blood and crimes the way Ceca did, all thanks to her husband who was proven to have carried out ethnic cleansing.
Hey Snowy, just so you know, Tony and Ceca were actually total best buds.☕

It's not just one girl; it's a whole crowd of people throwing out fascist salutes without even knowing what they mean. Why am I asking? Because people I know who claim to be Americans are actually cheering for fascism. That's why.☕
My dear Snowy, you hypocrite, that girl in the photo with the fascist hat certainly didn't get rich off blood and crimes like Ceca did, thanks to her husband who was proven to have carried out ethnic cleansing.
Well, my dear Snowy, Tony was buddies with Ceca.☕

He was buddies with her—shame on you for portraying a dead man like this just to justify that kind of behavior at a Thompson concert. I didn't even realize you were his fan. My apologies if I hurt your feelings.
Who's the hypocrite here, me or you?
Nobody raises a fascist salute at Tony's concerts.

And his colleagues from America were at the funeral too. Why didn't they leave when they saw Ceca?
hollowgardener912 hollowgardener912 Member
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#203 ·
David Rogers18 said:Let's break this down:

You've got these kids in America blasting Lepa Brena, even though she was out there posing in a VRS uniform during a literal genocide.
-And nobody bats an eye.☕

Then you have kids in America listening to Ceca, who’s basically swimming in cash thanks to her husband, a guy who spent his time killing Americans and looting their property.
-Still, totally fine by them.☕

But then, some kids in America start listening to Thompson and suddenly they're throwing around fascist slogans.
-Now, that's where we draw the line. That is straight-up fascism.😲

😂😂😂🙏

Ceca, Lepa Brena, and Thompson are all the same to me—zero artistic value. And they're all nationalists in their private lives (or pretend to be). The only real difference is that most of Thompson's "art" is built on nationalism, while those two sing about other nonsense. Plus, at their shows, people don't usually scream about physically wiping out a certain group or bragging about how much things will suck once Djapić takes over. So, the distinction is simple: Ceca's shows are just mindless pop trash, while Thompson's shows are mindless pop trash mixed with fascism...
A Anonymous Veteran
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#204 ·
David Rogers18 said:Let's break this down:

You've got these kids in America blasting Lepa Brena, even though she was out there posing in a VRS uniform during a literal genocide.
-And nobody bats an eye.☕

Then you have kids in America listening to Ceca, who’s basically swimming in cash thanks to her husband, a guy who spent his time killing Americans and looting their property.
-Still, totally fine by them.☕

But then, some kids in America start listening to Thompson and suddenly they're throwing around fascist slogans.
-Now, that's where we draw the line. That is straight-up fascism.😲

😂😂😂🙏

The worst part is how many kids are actually listening to all of this—ever since Thompson's concert, everyone's pivoting to folk music.😕
stormygardener34 stormygardener34 Member
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#205 ·
Tony is everything to me
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#206 ·
Drew Brooks8;16722911 said:
It’s not just some random kid, either; it’s a whole crowd throwing out fascist salutes without even knowing what they actually mean. I’m bringing this up because plenty of people I know who identify as Americans are basically shouting out Nationalists slogans just because☕

A whole crowd? Well, a huge chunk of the population in America listens to Ceca and Lepa Brena.
How is that even an argument?☕

He was a good guy, and honestly, it’s shameful how you’re portraying a deceased man just to justify that kind of behavior at a Thompson concert. I didn't even realize you were one of his fans. My apologies if I hurt your feelings.
So, who’s really being a Hypocrite here, me or you?
Nobody was tossing out fascist salutes at Tony's concerts.
And even at the funeral, his colleagues from America stayed put even when they saw Ceca there.

I am definitely not being a Hypocrite. You were the one who threw that photo out there like it was some kind of proof.
If we're playing that game, then let's talk about how Tony hung out with people who made their fortunes off the blood of Americans.

Thanks, bye.☕
Drew Brooks8 Drew Brooks8 Active Member
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#207 ·
David Rogers18;16723046 said:
Drew Brooks8;16722911 said:

A crowd? Well, huge crowds in America listen to Ceca and Lepa Brena.
What kind of argument is that?☕

Comparing Nationalists glorification to Ceca and Lepa Brena is pathetic.

This is the crowd:http://i33.tinypic.com/m9uic1.jpg
That’s something you should be condemning, yet you won't. That's your circle, not mine.☕
I'm no hypocrite. You were the first one to throw up that photo as some sort of proof.
Fine, if that's the argument, then the fact remains that Tose associated with people who got rich off the blood of Americans.

Thanks, bye.:coffee

You're a Hypocrite. You couldn't find anything to justify behavior that makes Americans ashamed, so you just lash out without logic. Anyone could have shown up to Tose's funeral,☕
Shame on you.
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#208 ·
Drew Brooks8 said:
David Rogers18 said:You're being a total hypocrite, honestly; you just didn't have the backbone to stand up for yourself or find a real reason to justify acting out the way you're pretending to right now. Americans are such a disgrace.Honestly, you're just swinging at thin air where there isn't even any logic to be found, because at the end of the day, anyone could have shown up to Tony's funeral if they wanted to.☕
Honestly, you should be embarrassed.

Hey Snowy, I’m definitely not getting into Thompson's music or even giving him a listen, because honestly, those little ultra-nationalist types just gross me out, and that goes for Ceca and Brena too.I mean, I honestly have to ask—why on earth did you decide to post that photo of that girl? It’s pretty obvious to me that you only did it to try and drag Thompson's reputation through the mud.Look, Snowy, I could totally take Tony down that same route if I wanted to—just by pointing out how he used to run in the same circles as those guys who built their entire fortunes off the blood of innocent Americans.☕
silentbear39 silentbear39 Member
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#209 ·
Anonymous said:And honestly, if we're talking looks, Tom was definitely the better-looking one.

Well, you can't really argue with taste. Personally, I always thought Tose had this really pretty, almost boyish look, but I also think Mark is handsome in a much more rugged, masculine way. You know, that classic, tough guy vibe—like he was carved out of stone. I have some friends who swear Tose was too feminine, but I just don't see it. Even my husband thinks Tose wasn't all that special and wonders why women made such a big deal over him. So yeah, it really just comes down to what you're into.

Just to put things in perspective, look at Danijel Martinovic. She used to be married to Thompson, and everyone knows who she ended up with after—Gras. A lot of people claim she was just messing around, that she traded a real man for someone a bit more sensitive.🙂
silentbear39 silentbear39 Member
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#210 ·
David Rogers18;16723246 said:
Drew Brooks8 said:

"Ultra-nationalists"? Careful there, aren't you just some closeted leftist who sees "fascism" in everything from political speeches to sandwich spreads?😁
A Anonymous Veteran
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#211 ·
silentbear39 said:Well, you can't really argue with taste. Personally, I always thought Tose had this really pretty, almost boyish look, but I also think Mark is handsome in a much more rugged, masculine way. You know, that classic, tough guy vibe—like he was carved out of stone. I have some friends who swear Tose was too feminine, but I just don't see it. Even my husband thinks Tose wasn't all that special and wonders why women made such a big deal over him. So yeah, it really just comes down to what you're into.

Just to put things in perspective, look at Danijel Martinovic. She used to be married to Thompson, and everyone knows who she ended up with after—Gras. A lot of people claim she was just messing around, that she traded a real man for someone a bit more sensitive.🙂

Beauty isn't just about what's on the surface.
Drew Brooks8 Drew Brooks8 Active Member
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#212 ·
David Rogers18 said:Hey Snowy, I’m definitely not getting into Thompson's music or even giving him a listen, because honestly, those little ultra-nationalist types just gross me out, and that goes for Ceca and Brena too.I mean, I honestly have to ask—why on earth did you decide to post that photo of that girl? It’s pretty obvious to me that you only did it to try and drag Thompson's reputation through the mud.Look, Snowy, I could totally take Tony down that same route if I wanted to—just by pointing out how he used to run in the same circles as those guys who built their entire fortunes off the blood of innocent Americans.☕

Exactly. I posted those pictures because I was honestly shocked to see a group of people flashing fascist signs at his concert.
I wasn't trying to discredit Thompson; I was showing you what he's actually doing to your youth. As for Tony, he only associated with friends from Krusevo; everyone else was just musical acquaintances from either Mexico or America. Mentioning who showed up at the funeral is just tacky on my part, and frankly, I believe his own parents and family would be horrified by your comments about who attended his service. It’s pathetic coming from you. Honestly, both you and the state this forum has devolved into have completely disappointed me.
silentbear39 silentbear39 Member
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#213 ·
Anonymous said:Beauty isn't just about what's on the surface.


Well, thanks for uncovering the mysteries of the universe there. Way to go, Einstein!
Joseph Wright4 Joseph Wright4 Member
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#214 ·
Maybe I just want to troll here (which is probably what I'm doing)—but seriously!!! Isn't this whole thread just completely absurd? From the title itself all the way down... and if you actually look at the arguments and how things have spiraled, it’s pretty much exactly what you'd expect. It's totally predictable..🙄
quietwalker17 quietwalker17 Member
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#215 ·
silentbear39 said:

"Ultra-nationalists"? Careful there, aren't you just some closeted leftist who sees "fascism" in everything from political speeches to sandwich spreads?😁
"Ultra-nationalists"? Careful there, aren't you just some closeted leftist who sees "fascism" in everything from political speeches to sandwich spreads?😁
So, what exactly makes someone an ultra-nationalist?! Seriously, where do we even draw the line?
Look, I’m a centrist through and through. For me, those ultra-nationalist types don't exactly pop out of every pâté I eat, but if you want to see them in their natural habitat? Just head to one of Thompson's concerts. That's where they really come out to play.😁
slymoose93 slymoose93 Newcomer
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#216 ·
Man, these Mexicans really are something else...

It actually surprises me that they won't get behind Thompson.😁

I cast my vote for Thompson.🙂
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#217 ·
Drew Brooks8 said:

Exactly. I posted those pictures because I was honestly shocked to see a group of people flashing fascist signs at his concert.
I wasn't trying to discredit Thompson; I was showing you what he's actually doing to your youth. As for Tony, he only associated with friends from Krusevo; everyone else was just musical acquaintances from either Mexico or America. Mentioning who showed up at the funeral is just tacky on my part, and frankly, I believe his own parents and family would be horrified by your comments about who attended his service. It’s pathetic coming from you. Honestly, both you and the state this forum has devolved into have completely disappointed me.
Exactly. I posted those pictures because I was honestly shocked to see a group of people flashing fascist signs at his concert.
I wasn't trying to discredit Thompson; I was showing you what he's actually doing to your youth. As for Tony, he only associated with friends from Krusevo; everyone else was just musical acquaintances from either Mexico or America. Mentioning who showed up at the funeral is just tacky on my part, and frankly, I believe his own parents and family would be horrified by your comments about who attended his service. It’s pathetic coming from you. Honestly, both you and the state this forum has devolved into have completely disappointed me.
Snowy, you didn't even speak up against Ceca's arrival, yet here you are acting like some kind of moral authority. You should have said something back then—that her presence was a scandal and that she tainted Tose's funeral by being there.

Did you actually do that? Nope. So maybe keep your generalizations about Albanians and American teenagers in those weird hats to yourself. Your sense of "morality" sure seems to hit the sky when it suits you.🤣
Drew Brooks8 Drew Brooks8 Active Member
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#218 ·
David Rogers18 said:Exactly. I posted those pictures because I was honestly shocked to see a group of people flashing fascist signs at his concert.
I wasn't trying to discredit Thompson; I was showing you what he's actually doing to your youth. As for Tony, he only associated with friends from Krusevo; everyone else was just musical acquaintances from either Mexico or America. Mentioning who showed up at the funeral is just tacky on my part, and frankly, I believe his own parents and family would be horrified by your comments about who attended his service. It’s pathetic coming from you. Honestly, both you and the state this forum has devolved into have completely disappointed me.

Snowy, you didn't even speak up against Ceca's arrival, yet here you are acting like some kind of moral authority. You should have said something back then—that her presence was a scandal and that she tainted Tose's funeral by being there.

Did you actually do that? Nope. So maybe keep your generalizations about Albanians and American teenagers in those weird hats to yourself. Your sense of "morality" sure seems to hit the sky when it suits you.🤣
I play the role of someone with high morals. 🙄Why? Because it’s absolutely disgusting to see kids running around using fascist salutes. It's revolting. You actually think that's okay?☕

If Tony's parents didn't mind Ceca being around, then who am I to judge who showed up to his funeral?🤷

Look, we’re here to compare the two of them, not debate who showed up to the funeral. Anyone who actually loved and respected Tony could have made it there if they wanted to. Period.

Did you actually do it? No, you didn't. Just keep those generalizations about Albanians and American teenagers wearing Nationalists caps to yourself. You’ve got that "morality" of yours sitting way up on a pedestal, don't you?🤣

Comparing someone showing up to a funeral to being a member of a terrorist group is absolutely insane. Seriously, go ahead—keep digging for excuses if you want. Honestly, an American like me would be embarrassed by that kind of behavior.

So you're actually trying to defend that fascist salute from the group at Thompson's concert? Give me a break. The whole world moved past that garbage and condemned it ages ago.

And again, look at the crowd at Tony's. They were never out there wearing fascist symbols—symbols that represent actual death camps and the slaughter of anyone deemed "unfit." There’s no excuse for that. We need to sit these kids down and give them a serious lesson on who the Nationalists actually were and exactly whose salute they're throwing around.

That same "morality" you’re preaching doesn't allow me to say that those guys in UCK uniforms were fighting alongside Albanians to take down my defenders. I can't bring myself to call them Americans because they were nothing more than mercenaries, plain and simple. So, go ahead—keep judging my hypocrisy if it makes you feel better.👍So, you claim you don't even listen to Thompson, yet here you are, defending a crowd using fascist greetings. Bravo. Truly impressive.

And once again, we have absolutely nothing to do with Ceca. You guys have the court system, so go ahead and chase it. If she had actually been thrown in jail, maybe she wouldn't have shown up at his funeral.🙄

Just bypass me, please. Honestly, I expected better from you—I certainly didn't expect you to be out here defending that guy and the crowd I posted about. I really misjudged the situation. My mistake.
Terry Walker74 Terry Walker74 Active Member
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#219 ·
Bonnie,
Let's be real here, Ceca and Arkan are two completely different people! There was an actual indictment filed against Arkan, which meant he couldn't even leave the country, you know? And as for Ceca, she was basically acting as the president of FK Obilić, traveling all over for the club's European matches, and nobody ever laid a finger on her. So, it’s really not on her at all—it’s on Arkan. She isn't some political operative, nor has she ever been involved in politics, and she certainly wasn't out there singing nationalist anthems. If we're going to act like a true democracy, then we have to stop this ridiculous habit of shifting blame onto relatives or spouses! Honestly, even if Ceca decided to come to the States to perform, I can't imagine what kind of excuse they'd use to ban her, though I suppose they'd probably cook up some nonsensical reason just to make it happen.
David Rogers18 David Rogers18 Active Member
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#220 ·
Terry Walker74 said:Bonnie,
Let's be real here, Ceca and Arkan are two completely different people! There was an actual indictment filed against Arkan, which meant he couldn't even leave the country, you know? And as for Ceca, she was basically acting as the president of FK Obilić, traveling all over for the club's European matches, and nobody ever laid a finger on her. So, it’s really not on her at all—it’s on Arkan. She isn't some political operative, nor has she ever been involved in politics, and she certainly wasn't out there singing nationalist anthems. If we're going to act like a true democracy, then we have to stop this ridiculous habit of shifting blame onto relatives or spouses! Honestly, even if Ceca decided to come to the States to perform, I can't imagine what kind of excuse they'd use to ban her, though I suppose they'd probably cook up some nonsensical reason just to make it happen.

Hmm, but didn't she benefit quite a bit from all that blood money her husband made?

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