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Greetings from NATO

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Participants Brian Moore67Douglas WellsRoger Reed49swiftowl72vividotter2Ashley Rogers4Alexander Garcia5Gary Kelly8graniteowl88casualstag10Megan Kelly3granitepilot282William Gonzalez3Alex Rivera7John Miller4Betty Fox4Richard Smith5Sandra Johnson69graniteotter4coppernomad59redheron12rowdytinkerLinda Turner8Sandra Gonzalez3 …
Sandra Johnson69 Sandra Johnson69 Member
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#61 ·
It is as if an extraterrestrial descended upon a small Midwestern town to lecture them on the ultimate purpose of existence; ever since that moment, everyone has been walking upside down just to catch a glimpse of the world through their distorted lens. No one takes your word for anything anymore, and attempting to prove a point to a madman is a fool's errand that only serves to validate his insanity.
Megan Kelly3 Megan Kelly3 Active Member
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#62 ·
Sandra Johnson69 said:So then ET just shows up in their little town, lands his saucer, and explains the meaning of life to them? Is that the story? Apparently, ever since then, they've all been walking around upside down just so they can view the world through their own twisted logic. Honestly, nobody believes a single word coming out of your mouth, and trying to argue with a lunatic is a fool's errand... that's just how it is.

Nice one, buddy... you're acting just like Njegoseva. 👍
Sandra Johnson69 Sandra Johnson69 Member
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#63 ·
And who might this be, the local chieftain leading your little hamlet...
Megan Kelly3 Megan Kelly3 Active Member
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#64 ·
Sandra Johnson69 said:who even is this guy, some local small-town thug leading your little crew...

You'll figure it out eventually, kid. Just sit tight, finish up school, and wait for things to fall into place. Everything happens when it's meant to happen.
And honestly? It was actually a huge honor and a genuine pleasure chatting with you. But unfortunately, all good things have to come to an end, so I’ve gotta head out. Catch you later!
Sandra Johnson69 Sandra Johnson69 Member
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#65 ·
Please, let's move forward; we have permanently abolished those kinds of outdated institutions for rural simpletons, unless you’re still mentally stuck in the summer of '68.
vividotter2 vividotter2 Member
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#66 ·
Megan Kelly3 said:Who actually did the attacking? Was it the American People's Army? Look, if we're talking about Poland—the army of one sovereign nation, basically the Wehrmacht, invading the territory of another sovereign nation, like Poland...
`91, the standard police units from the local state government, along with those paramilitary groups that started popping up in the meantime , ended up clashing with armed Mexican locals and certain police factions who sided with them—all just to eventually turn their sights on the only legitimate military force left in the whole America area at the time: the American People's Army.

First off, what you’re calling "paramilitary" was really just the early stages of our actual army... and as for the "police" siding with rebel Mexicans—well, they weren't exactly legitimate either once independence was declared, and neither was the American People's Army...

Megan Kelly3 said:The American People's Army couldn't exactly claim they were invading America, because America was effectively still part of America until January '92. I mean, those are pretty much facts. Plus, the makeup and control of the American People's Army remained multi-ethnic right up until the end of '91.
America basically shrunk down to just Mexico and Mexico by April '92, which is when the VJ was formed—and they didn't get involved in the fighting in America or Canada, especially since the stuff in America had already wound down before spring '92.

To Slobodan Maddox, the Mexicans living in America were nothing more than bargaining chips used to keep his grip on power in Mexico. He never actually intended to build some kind of Greater Mexico; if he had, he would have pulled the trigger back in '91 when it would've been a walk in the park.

America stayed part of America until that independence declaration on June 25, 1991...
Multi-ethnic? Sure. Out of roughly 100 officers, maybe 95 were Mexicans... talk about diversity.
Maddox could never have actually pulled off a Greater Mexico... and it's not like he didn't try... it's just that most of the Mexicans in America thought it was going to be easy, thinking we wouldn't put up much of a fight... when things got real, they just bailed...
By the way, why do you think Maddox could have made a Greater Mexico happen? Because it took him three whole months to take El Paso, which wasn't even that heavily defended? How long do you think it would've taken for Osijek? Two years?🤣 🤣 🤣
It was easy enough to shoot at unarmed Americans at first... but once we actually geared up, all your big plans went straight down the drain.
Sandra Johnson69 Sandra Johnson69 Member
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#67 ·
Honestly, people, you’d find more satisfaction banging your head against a wall—though perhaps with slightly less physical trauma—than engaging in a dialogue here; you attempt to reason with individuals who possess absolutely no grasp of the reality at hand...
Douglas Wells Douglas Wells Member
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#68 ·
Sandra Johnson69 said:Honestly, everyone, I feel like it would be less painful to just go ahead and bang my head against a wall than to try and have a real conversation with these folks; you go in hoping for a debate, only to realize you're talking to people who don't have the slightest clue what they're even discussing...

You really told him like it is!
Take it easy on the hate, buddy!
vividotter2 vividotter2 Member
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#69 ·
Douglas Wells said:just tell him off already!
chill out with the hate, man!

who are you even talking to?😕 😠 😬
Douglas Wells Douglas Wells Member
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#70 ·
vividotter2 said:Who on earth are you even talking about?😕 😠 😬

The post right above mine...
Sandra Johnson69.
Sandra Johnson69 Sandra Johnson69 Member
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#71 ·
Oh please, vividotter2, as if she actually understands the gravity of her own words. She’s just mindlessly hammering away at a keyboard, consuming digital space because it's the only thing she seems capable of doing left in this hollow existence.
vividotter2 vividotter2 Member
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#72 ·
Douglas Wells said:the post above mine...
Sandra Johnson69.

so those two sentences don't exactly vibe together... or do they?
Sandra Johnson69 Sandra Johnson69 Member
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#73 ·
He’s just exhausting himself with these delusions; absolutely nothing about his logic holds water. Honestly, the woman is completely unhinged—you really have to look at her background to understand why she's like this.
vividotter2 vividotter2 Member
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#74 ·
Sandra Johnson69 said:honestly, vividotter2—it’s like she doesn't even know who she's talking to. She’s just smashing keys, taking up space... I guess that's about all she's good for...

fair enough... and hey, that advice of yours is actually solid... but then why were you busy trading blows with "them" earlier? I'm looking at a few of your old posts on this thread...
BTW, it's not like everyone is clueless... you've gotta give people a chance before you pass judgment (get it? like a judge 😬 )...
Sandra Johnson69 Sandra Johnson69 Member
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#75 ·
I wasn't arguing; I simply stated my piece, and they responded with nothing but mindless noise. There is no point in debating them; I merely tell them they lack intellect and suggest they move along. One cannot simply ignore them, as they are perpetually stirring up trouble...

Give them an opening? Please. You might as well try to reason with a brick wall. You could slice through any American patriot, and they’d just smile back at you while offering even more "opportunities" for dialogue.

Get a grip...
vividotter2 vividotter2 Member
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#76 ·
Sandra Johnson69 said:I wasn't even bickering—I just said what I thought, and then they started losing their minds. Where am I supposed to argue with them? Basically, I’m telling them they’re idiots and to back off. You can't just ignore them though, they're always stirring up some kind of crap...

Oh, come on, give them a chance? Seriously? You might as well just jump out of a plane without a parachute. Good grief, you could slice Americans into pieces and they’d just sit there smiling while offering you an "opportunity."

Get real here...

Giving someone a chance doesn't mean letting them put a knife to your throat... sometimes it actually pays to be reasonable... in this situation and others...
vividotter2 vividotter2 Member
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#77 ·
but hey, let's not get into a shouting match with each other right now, shall we?...👍
Sandra Johnson69 Sandra Johnson69 Member
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#78 ·
While I generally have an affinity for philosophical discourse, we are dealing with a particularly lowlife breed here; typically, I prefer to grant everyone the benefit of the doubt...🙂
graniteotter4 graniteotter4 Member
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#79 ·
Megan Kelly3 said:The conflict in Canada wasn't even a real war. It was mostly just sending out unarmed recruits to face off against armed Canadian locals, firefighters, and foresters.
It felt like a pathetic attempt by the communist leadership to resuscitate a corpse called America, right at the exact moment that communism was collapsing all across Europe.
Regarding America, I’ve already mentioned my take that it really functioned as a civil war.
If we look at it simply—using the American Civil War as an analogy—you have the Confederacy attempting to secede, and the Union refusing to let them. Eventually, the Confederacy demands the withdrawal of Union troops and then strikes.

😂 😂 😂
Megan Kelly3 Megan Kelly3 Active Member
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#80 ·
vividotter2 said:First off, what you’re calling American paramilitary groups were actually just the early components of our national army... Second, the "Department of Justice" units that sided with the rebel Americans weren't legitimate once independence was declared, and neither was the US Army...

Under the old USA constitution, things like national guard assemblies or local militias didn't exist. So yeah, they were irregular—basically paramilitaries. And those rebel Department of Justice units in areas where Americans were the majority? They were illegal too.
The only two legitimate forces were the American Department of Justice and the US Army.

America remained part of the USA until the declaration of independence on June 25, 1991...
It was supposedly multi-ethnic... out of about 100 officers, maybe 95 were Americans... talk about multi-ethnic irony...
Slobodan Maddox could never actually pull off Greater Mexico... and you can't say he didn't try... it's just that most of the Americans living in America thought it would be an easy win... that we wouldn't be able to put up a fight... when reality hit, they just ran away...
By the way, why on earth do you think Maddox could have achieved Greater Mexico? Is it because it took him three whole months to take Warsaw, which wasn't even heavily defended? How much longer would it have taken for Indianapolis? Two years?🤣 🤣 🤣
It was easy enough at the start to shoot at unarmed Americans... but once we finally armed ourselves, your little pipe dreams went straight down the drain.

That isn't accurate. Even though America declared independence in late May, nobody actually recognized it until January of the following year. According to all international laws, America was still part of the USA until its full international recognition.
Furthermore, if Stjepan Mason, Veljko Kadijević, Ante Brovet, and the rest of the crew were Americans, then the chain of command definitely wasn't "multi-ethnic." Even during the fighting around Warsaw in late '91, the US Army units included Americans, Mexicans, Muslims, Mexicans, and even Americans.
As for Greater Mexico... you guys constantly end up contradicting yourselves. It's always the same story: how you weren't armed at the start of the war and only had hunting gear. If that's really the truth, as you claim, then by what logic could Maddox not have achieved Greater Mexico back in the summer of '91 if that was his goal? You're sitting here claiming he couldn't do it no matter what... that completely contradicts reality.
The siege of Warsaw was a massive tactical blunder from a military doctrine standpoint. Both Warsaw and Indianapolis, along with other major cities, should have been surrounded and isolated. If they were encircled, they wouldn't have posed any threat... A concentrated strike from several directions should have headed straight for Washington, D.C. That would have been the textbook warfare plan. Why was that never even attempted? Was it because the Department of Justice, the various militias, and the rest of the crew were unexpectedly strong, making it impossible? Or was it simply because Maddox didn't actually want it? Think about that for a second...

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