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Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
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#361 ·
ruggednomad5 said:Look, I agree with you, I was paying attention. 🙂

Anne Frank, that little Jewish girl during WWII...
it's easy to say—they're teenagers, so what if they are? Let their hormones run wild, sure, but that doesn't mean anyone else should have to suffer for it...

Look, I know you aren't talking about that kid from the Folgers coffee commercial, but—honestly—I can't for the life of me think of any way in which Anne Frank would be remotely relevant to this discussion.
ruggednomad5 ruggednomad5 Member
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joined Jun 2013
#362 ·
Nicholas King said:Look, I know you aren't talking about that kid from the Folgers coffee commercial, but—honestly—I can't for the life of me think of any way in which Anne Frank would be remotely relevant to this discussion.

It doesn't have to be her, obviously. The point is that unbearable adolescence... that's the parallel. When life doesn't let you go through an unbearable adolescence, you just learn to settle for a tolerable one...
Rachel Jones8 Rachel Jones8 Active Member
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#363 ·
ruggednomad5 said:It doesn't have to be her, obviously. The point is that unbearable adolescence... that's the parallel. When life doesn't let you go through an unbearable adolescence, you just learn to settle for a tolerable one...

Maybe we should just lock kids up somewhere so they never see the light of day.
Not a bad thought.
😁
ruggednomad5 ruggednomad5 Member
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joined Jun 2013
#364 ·
Rachel Jones8 said:Maybe we should just lock kids up somewhere so they never see the light of day.
Not a bad thought.
😁

It’s actually not a bad idea. 😉

This whole "puberty" phase excuse is nonsense. Age dictates behavior. We teach them how to walk, we teach them how to handle life at 15 or 16... whether you call those years puberty or a damn potato doesn't change anything.

There is no excuse for being a jerk... if I'm having an orgasm, it doesn't mean I get to act however the hell I want.
Brenda Booth5 Brenda Booth5 Member
42 messages
joined Jan 2014
#365 ·
ruggednomad5 said:It’s actually not a bad idea. 😉

This whole "puberty" phase excuse is nonsense. Age dictates behavior. We teach them how to walk, we teach them how to handle life at 15 or 16... whether you call those years puberty or a damn potato doesn't change anything.

There is no excuse for being a jerk... if I'm having an orgasm, it doesn't mean I get to act however the hell I want.

Netflix, I wouldn't close things off, but I definitely agree with the rest of the post.

You can't just wave a sign that says puberty (or midlife crisis , or the terrible twos ...) and just shrug your shoulders. It's fine to realize that certain stages of life come with unpredictable behavior, but you don't have to accept that chaos as an unavoidable stroke of fate.

What you really have to do is stay involved, rather than being a 🤷 passive 🥳 parent.
Nicholas King Nicholas King Regular
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#366 ·
ruggednomad5 said:It’s actually not a bad idea. 😉

This whole "puberty" phase excuse is nonsense. Age dictates behavior. We teach them how to walk, we teach them how to handle life at 15 or 16... whether you call those years puberty or a damn potato doesn't change anything.

There is no excuse for being a jerk... if I'm having an orgasm, it doesn't mean I get to act however the hell I want.

That’s just wrong.

You start teaching them how to "handle life" at the exact same time you teach them to walk—actually, maybe even earlier than that.

It is precisely those parents who wait until their kid is 15 or 16—or whatever age they deem appropriate—to finally start teaching them some basic life skills, who end up completely losing their minds wondering why things turned out the way they did with their precious little darling.
Rachel Jones8 Rachel Jones8 Active Member
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#367 ·
Brenda Booth5 said:Netflix, I wouldn't close things off, but I definitely agree with the rest of the post.

You can't just wave a sign that says puberty (or midlife crisis , or the terrible twos ...) and just shrug your shoulders. It's fine to realize that certain stages of life come with unpredictable behavior, but you don't have to accept that chaos as an unavoidable stroke of fate.

What you really have to do is stay involved, rather than being a 🤷 passive 🥳 parent.

I've been digging through the threads on the terrible twos too, and it feels like everyone treats it like this phase you just have to white-knuckle through.
It doesn't seem like people are actually doing much about it... besides just taking the hits (the screaming, the floor-throwing, the judgment from neighbors)....and letting kids vent. Most people just say, "That's just how it is... it'll pass when it passes."
Brenda Booth5 Brenda Booth5 Member
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#368 ·
Rachel Jones8 said:I've been digging through the threads on the terrible twos too, and it feels like everyone treats it like this phase you just have to white-knuckle through.
It doesn't seem like people are actually doing much about it... besides just taking the hits (the screaming, the floor-throwing, the judgment from neighbors)....and letting kids vent. Most people just say, "That's just how it is... it'll pass when it passes."

Look, I understand that everything is temporary, but I find it so strange to just sit there twiddling my thumbs during these outbursts. I remember when my own kids went through that stage; looking back, they were actually pretty mild compared to what two-year-olds are truly capable of, but my instinct is still to distance myself when a child starts spiraling. I’ll slip away like a ghost or duck behind a corner. It's the fastest way to handle it—not because I'm "embarrassed," but because changing the environment can help break the cycle or at least dampen the noise.

Fine, I accept that every kid is different, but just standing there passively waiting for the storm to pass isn't working for me. Is there some unwritten rule that a tantrum has to play out to its bitter end right in front of an audience? I haven't heard of one. All I know is that every twenty years or so, parenting theories get completely overhauled or rebranded into something "new"... it never seems to stay settled for long.
ruggednomad5 ruggednomad5 Member
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#369 ·
Nicholas King said:That’s just wrong.

You start teaching them how to "handle life" at the exact same time you teach them to walk—actually, maybe even earlier than that.

It is precisely those parents who wait until their kid is 15 or 16—or whatever age they deem appropriate—to finally start teaching them some basic life skills, who end up completely losing their minds wondering why things turned out the way they did with their precious little darling.

I agree..... I phrased it that way because that's when they actually start maturing into adults. The questions and dilemmas become much more real, more intense. Information hits them at warp speed, and they need to know how to process it all.
ruggednomad5 ruggednomad5 Member
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#370 ·
Brenda Booth5 said:Look, I understand that everything is temporary, but I find it so strange to just sit there twiddling my thumbs during these outbursts. I remember when my own kids went through that stage; looking back, they were actually pretty mild compared to what two-year-olds are truly capable of, but my instinct is still to distance myself when a child starts spiraling. I’ll slip away like a ghost or duck behind a corner. It's the fastest way to handle it—not because I'm "embarrassed," but because changing the environment can help break the cycle or at least dampen the noise.

Fine, I accept that every kid is different, but just standing there passively waiting for the storm to pass isn't working for me. Is there some unwritten rule that a tantrum has to play out to its bitter end right in front of an audience? I haven't heard of one. All I know is that every twenty years or so, parenting theories get completely overhauled or rebranded into something "new"... it never seems to stay settled for long.


A meltdown can finish its course, sure, but it doesn't have to be a public performance—especially if that "audience" is at a park or a Target. Why should some random stranger be forced to listen to my kid's chaos?! 🙂
If it's a quiet sulk, fine, stay right there. If they want to talk through it, great. But loud, explosive tantrums? Those can happen in their bedroom instead.

I think it's vital for a parent to set boundaries and let the child know that the screaming is unacceptable. Doing that doesn't make you a bad parent.
Brenda Booth5 Brenda Booth5 Member
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#371 ·
ruggednomad5 said:A meltdown can finish its course, sure, but it doesn't have to be a public performance—especially if that "audience" is at a park or a Target. Why should some random stranger be forced to listen to my kid's chaos?! 🙂
If it's a quiet sulk, fine, stay right there. If they want to talk through it, great. But loud, explosive tantrums? Those can happen in their bedroom instead.

I think it's vital for a parent to set boundaries and let the child know that the screaming is unacceptable. Doing that doesn't make you a bad parent.

I couldn't agree more. I tend to look at this through the lens of basic human decency... If someone sitting next to me in a coffee shop started shouting uncontrollably and being rude, it would be just as problematic as if it were a child doing it. It's all about respect, regardless of who it is.
ruggednomad5 ruggednomad5 Member
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#372 ·
Brenda Booth5 said:I couldn't agree more. I tend to look at this through the lens of basic human decency... If someone sitting next to me in a coffee shop started shouting uncontrollably and being rude, it would be just as problematic as if it were a child doing it. It's all about respect, regardless of who it is.

Yeah, it's funny how we expect kids to master social etiquette way faster than most adults ever will... but honesty goes a long way. Kids aren't stupid. They can tell when you're being real with them.

I read somewhere about a kid swearing at his mother... look, you keep it short and blunt: I DON'T ALLOW THAT. If they do it again... fine. Pack up their clothes, grab their socks, and get out of my house.
(And even if they leave, they'll probably crash at a friend's place for two nights before crawling back... everyone misses home eventually). Things cool down, and then we can actually deal with whatever the real issue was...
silverraven14 silverraven14 Member
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#373 ·
Jesse Fox5 said:What exactly is "scary" about those expressions?????? What I actually saw was scary.
So, her mom is basically catering to her every whim when it comes to food. I mean... she asked for steak and baked potatoes... and her mom actually made it. This little brat sat down, took one bite of a potato, and just pushed the plate away. Nothing. Half an hour later, she’s snacking on ice cream and chugging Coca-Cola. That definitely wouldn't fly at my house. You hungry? No?
Fine then, you can wait until dinner for that meal. No ice cream and none of that nonsense. Just you wait... once she's actually hungry, she'll start respecting the food and the effort someone put into making it.
If she were to, as you put it, totally lose it with me, she'd be sent straight to her room to cool off until she apologized. Even if that takes all day.
And what part of that is supposed to be scary ??? I don't get it.

The apology they just handed out? It’s a complete joke—honestly, it’s nothing more than a slap in the face.

It’s the exact same pattern as those disastrous "peace and harmony" schemes—you know the ones—where everyone pretends nobody is at fault and we all just move on with a chorus of empty platitudes. It's what happens after the kids have already started throwing punches; then the old guard steps in and forces them to shake hands just because that's how things are "supposed" to be done. Such a joke.

Sweeping things under the rug is bad—really, truly bad. It’s one of those habits that seems harmless enough in the moment, but eventually, you just end up tripping over the pile of mess you thought you'd hidden away.

And honestly? I’m perfectly fine with how I handled that when I was just a kid—I flat-out refused. I have zero regrets about standing my ground back then.
Honestly, I realized there was zero point in giving anyone else a second chance—not when they’re just going to stab me in the back five minutes later and then go off to sing their little victory song. So, fine—go ahead and deal with the fallout yourself. You wanted it, you got it.

We really need to figure out a way to teach kids that their words actually carry weight—you know, that they should probably stand by what they say—and that actions come with consequences. It’s one thing to talk a big game, but it's another thing entirely to own up to the mess you've made.
Reconciliation only actually carries weight when there’s a lesson learned—when you finally grasp why that blowout happened in the first place and realize it isn't going to be a recurring theme. Otherwise, an "I promise to do better" is just empty noise—it’s not some mindless celebration of good intentions. An apology only matters when it holds substance—when the child actually understands the gravity of what they're saying.

I actually told my mother recently that she was being a complete jerk for forcing me to apologize in certain situations—insisting I just "look at myself" because apparently, an apology is some kind of moral obligation. Today, she finally admitted she felt bad about it; back then, she just didn't know any other way to handle things. But honestly? Life is what it is—sometimes you just have to do what’s expected.

My own "disobedience and arrogance"—if that’s how they wanted to label it—is exactly what turned me into a spineless follower. There were plenty of attempts to break my spirit along the way, but honestly, the only real punishment I ever actually faced was a beating.
Oh yeah—it’s the one thing that actually kept me sane and kept my head on straight.

There are those rare, pivotal moments—the kind that actually shift the ground beneath your feet—when your parents finally drop the act and say, "Look, I’m only human, I messed up. I'm sorry." It’s in those instances that an apology stops being this vague, abstract concept and actually starts feeling like something real.
And then there was that moment when they actually had the nerve to ask for my forgiveness—not because they were sorry, really, but just to clear the air after the way they punished me. They sat there, trying to play it all calm and collected, attempting to walk me through their "logic." It was this whole rehearsed explanation of what they thought I’d done wrong, why they supposedly "lost control," and why they couldn't find a more civilized way to handle the situation. As if an apology could somehow fix the mess they made.

The exact moment I actually started feeling some genuine respect for my parents was when they finally let their guard down and showed me their vulnerability—realizing that they actually cared about earning my respect rather than just demanding it through fear. It turns out there's a massive difference between building a bond and simply trying to rule by intimidation.

One of those conversations sounded something like this—"Look, we can't control you. You’re always going to make choices that happen entirely outside our radar, even though, honestly, we’d love to be part of your life and have you actually *ask* us for advice once in a while. We're operating under the assumption that you aren't some complete idiot who doesn't realize how much smoking, drinking, or drugs can wreck you, but if you’re hell-bent on trying them, there’s nothing we can do to stop you. Just don't come crawling back expecting us to foot the bill."
Honestly, that was a total "whoa" moment for me.
I wouldn't call it a surrender—not exactly—but it was certainly an admission. A clear, loud-and-proud "we don't own you." And honestly? Hearing that just shifted something in my head. It made me realize—fine, they didn't know any better. Given the sheer amount of chaos and dysfunction they grew up around, where kindness wasn't even a concept, I can't really blame them for reaching for the wrong things sometimes. I’ve reached a point where I can forgive them for not knowing a better way to live, while still respecting the fact that they never tried to force me into a box. Despite all their messiness and flaws, they always made this effort—however clumsy—to let me be myself, to face the consequences of my own actions, and to actually take responsibility for my life.

Look, we’ve had our fair share of crises—plenty of them, actually. Let’s be clear: they aren't robots, and I'm certainly not one either. We all hit those breaking points where things just fall apart. But in my experience, as long as there is a genuine, underlying drive to actually fix what's broken, things eventually get back on track. The distinction is subtle but vital—it's the difference between saying, "I want us to be okay, so I am going to put in the work," versus simply saying, "I want us to be okay because that's what I want." One is an active commitment to repair; the other is just wishful thinking. And frankly, wishful thinking doesn't fix much of anything.

Generally speaking, I’ve felt that exact same mechanism play out firsthand—not to mention watching it unfold with other people's kids—so I know exactly how well it actually works.
Look, let’s get one thing straight—I’m not exactly here to be your best friend. I’m just doing my job. That said, I have zero interest in being treated like some untouchable authority figure, and frankly, I don't mind being wrong. So, please—don't hold back. If I miss the mark, tell me. I can handle it.
The moment I realized I was in the wrong, I just owned it—out loud. I offered to make things right and actually sat there to listen to their suggestions.
Did it work? Well, judging by how they reacted afterward, I’d say yes. By involving them and actually taking their feedback to heart, I found a way to connect that wasn't just defensive. And honestly? I didn't hesitate to say, "Thanks for helping me out." It might have sounded a little cheesy to them, but for me, it felt necessary.

But here’s the thing—it worked because it was real. That’s the truth of it. They could tell I wasn't just performing or faking an apology; I genuinely meant it. And because they felt that sincerity, they gave me the space to actually fix things.

Look, when a parent tries to "manage" their kid instead of being authentic, they’re failing. Period.
It’s like when you say, "I hear you," while you're miles away from actually understanding them. Or when you mutter "sorry" but you don't mean a single word of it.

Kids are people. We tend to forget that sometimes. We can't expect them to take responsibility for their actions if we don't actually give them the room to do so.
Forcing an apology just because it’s the "polite thing to do" isn't teaching responsibility—it’s just training robots. It's creating followers, not individuals.
We all have egos—believe me, I know—but we also need to have some backbone. Don't try to break their spirit; instead, try to understand them and actually teach them.
Rachel Jones8 Rachel Jones8 Active Member
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#374 ·
silverraven14 said:The apology they just handed out? It’s a complete joke—honestly, it’s nothing more than a slap in the face.

It’s the exact same pattern as those disastrous "peace and harmony" schemes—you know the ones—where everyone pretends nobody is at fault and we all just move on with a chorus of empty platitudes. It's what happens after the kids have already started throwing punches; then the old guard steps in and forces them to shake hands just because that's how things are "supposed" to be done. Such a joke.

Sweeping things under the rug is bad—really, truly bad. It’s one of those habits that seems harmless enough in the moment, but eventually, you just end up tripping over the pile of mess you thought you'd hidden away.

And honestly? I’m perfectly fine with how I handled that when I was just a kid—I flat-out refused. I have zero regrets about standing my ground back then.
Honestly, I realized there was zero point in giving anyone else a second chance—not when they’re just going to stab me in the back five minutes later and then go off to sing their little victory song. So, fine—go ahead and deal with the fallout yourself. You wanted it, you got it.

We really need to figure out a way to teach kids that their words actually carry weight—you know, that they should probably stand by what they say—and that actions come with consequences. It’s one thing to talk a big game, but it's another thing entirely to own up to the mess you've made.
Reconciliation only actually carries weight when there’s a lesson learned—when you finally grasp why that blowout happened in the first place and realize it isn't going to be a recurring theme. Otherwise, an "I promise to do better" is just empty noise—it’s not some mindless celebration of good intentions. An apology only matters when it holds substance—when the child actually understands the gravity of what they're saying.

I actually told my mother recently that she was being a complete jerk for forcing me to apologize in certain situations—insisting I just "look at myself" because apparently, an apology is some kind of moral obligation. Today, she finally admitted she felt bad about it; back then, she just didn't know any other way to handle things. But honestly? Life is what it is—sometimes you just have to do what’s expected.

My own "disobedience and arrogance"—if that’s how they wanted to label it—is exactly what turned me into a spineless follower. There were plenty of attempts to break my spirit along the way, but honestly, the only real punishment I ever actually faced was a beating.
Oh yeah—it’s the one thing that actually kept me sane and kept my head on straight.

There are those rare, pivotal moments—the kind that actually shift the ground beneath your feet—when your parents finally drop the act and say, "Look, I’m only human, I messed up. I'm sorry." It’s in those instances that an apology stops being this vague, abstract concept and actually starts feeling like something real.
And then there was that moment when they actually had the nerve to ask for my forgiveness—not because they were sorry, really, but just to clear the air after the way they punished me. They sat there, trying to play it all calm and collected, attempting to walk me through their "logic." It was this whole rehearsed explanation of what they thought I’d done wrong, why they supposedly "lost control," and why they couldn't find a more civilized way to handle the situation. As if an apology could somehow fix the mess they made.

The exact moment I actually started feeling some genuine respect for my parents was when they finally let their guard down and showed me their vulnerability—realizing that they actually cared about earning my respect rather than just demanding it through fear. It turns out there's a massive difference between building a bond and simply trying to rule by intimidation.

One of those conversations sounded something like this—"Look, we can't control you. You’re always going to make choices that happen entirely outside our radar, even though, honestly, we’d love to be part of your life and have you actually *ask* us for advice once in a while. We're operating under the assumption that you aren't some complete idiot who doesn't realize how much smoking, drinking, or drugs can wreck you, but if you’re hell-bent on trying them, there’s nothing we can do to stop you. Just don't come crawling back expecting us to foot the bill."
Honestly, that was a total "whoa" moment for me.
I wouldn't call it a surrender—not exactly—but it was certainly an admission. A clear, loud-and-proud "we don't own you." And honestly? Hearing that just shifted something in my head. It made me realize—fine, they didn't know any better. Given the sheer amount of chaos and dysfunction they grew up around, where kindness wasn't even a concept, I can't really blame them for reaching for the wrong things sometimes. I’ve reached a point where I can forgive them for not knowing a better way to live, while still respecting the fact that they never tried to force me into a box. Despite all their messiness and flaws, they always made this effort—however clumsy—to let me be myself, to face the consequences of my own actions, and to actually take responsibility for my life.

Look, we’ve had our fair share of crises—plenty of them, actually. Let’s be clear: they aren't robots, and I'm certainly not one either. We all hit those breaking points where things just fall apart. But in my experience, as long as there is a genuine, underlying drive to actually fix what's broken, things eventually get back on track. The distinction is subtle but vital—it's the difference between saying, "I want us to be okay, so I am going to put in the work," versus simply saying, "I want us to be okay because that's what I want." One is an active commitment to repair; the other is just wishful thinking. And frankly, wishful thinking doesn't fix much of anything.

Generally speaking, I’ve felt that exact same mechanism play out firsthand—not to mention watching it unfold with other people's kids—so I know exactly how well it actually works.
Look, let’s get one thing straight—I’m not exactly here to be your best friend. I’m just doing my job. That said, I have zero interest in being treated like some untouchable authority figure, and frankly, I don't mind being wrong. So, please—don't hold back. If I miss the mark, tell me. I can handle it.
The moment I realized I was in the wrong, I just owned it—out loud. I offered to make things right and actually sat there to listen to their suggestions.
Did it work? Well, judging by how they reacted afterward, I’d say yes. By involving them and actually taking their feedback to heart, I found a way to connect that wasn't just defensive. And honestly? I didn't hesitate to say, "Thanks for helping me out." It might have sounded a little cheesy to them, but for me, it felt necessary.

But here’s the thing—it worked because it was real. That’s the truth of it. They could tell I wasn't just performing or faking an apology; I genuinely meant it. And because they felt that sincerity, they gave me the space to actually fix things.

Look, when a parent tries to "manage" their kid instead of being authentic, they’re failing. Period.
It’s like when you say, "I hear you," while you're miles away from actually understanding them. Or when you mutter "sorry" but you don't mean a single word of it.

Kids are people. We tend to forget that sometimes. We can't expect them to take responsibility for their actions if we don't actually give them the room to do so.
Forcing an apology just because it’s the "polite thing to do" isn't teaching responsibility—it’s just training robots. It's creating followers, not individuals.
We all have egos—believe me, I know—but we also need to have some backbone. Don't try to break their spirit; instead, try to understand them and actually teach them.

👍

Gotta throw in some actual words instead of just using emojis, right?
Michelle Moore3 Michelle Moore3 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2016
#375 ·
Just one weird question... how do you actually tell when puberty is wrapping up and when the voice mutation is finally done?
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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joined Jun 2022
#376 ·
Michelle Moore3 said:Just one weird question... how do you actually tell when puberty is wrapping up and when the voice mutation is finally done?

Usually hits around 17.
Sean Mitchell Sean Mitchell Member
11 messages
joined May 2016
#377 ·
Hey everyone, I could really use some help here.
This might sound a little strange coming from me, but I’ve always felt like something went sideways during my puberty and those first major physical shifts.
Back when I was 11, I looked like a pretty normal kid. By 12, things started changing—my face looked different and my posture started tanking—and by 13, I felt like I looked even worse. That was also when my voice started doing this weird, unsettling thing. My own perception 🤷
If you guys actually want to see what I mean regarding these changes, I can upload three videos (from 2003, 2004, and 2005) as unlisted links on YouTube so they stay private to just this group. You can find them
here. I’m turning 24 this month, but honestly, these developmental shifts have been weighing on me all this time. Just these constant reminders of how I changed during puberty. My growth spurts and my voice changes both just... stopped completely when I was 15.
Thanks a lot for listening and for any insight you can offer. 🙂
Larry Walker24 Larry Walker24 Veteran
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joined Jun 2022
#378 ·
Sean Mitchell said:Hey everyone, I could really use some help here.
This might sound a little strange coming from me, but I’ve always felt like something went sideways during my puberty and those first major physical shifts.
Back when I was 11, I looked like a pretty normal kid. By 12, things started changing—my face looked different and my posture started tanking—and by 13, I felt like I looked even worse. That was also when my voice started doing this weird, unsettling thing. My own perception 🤷
If you guys actually want to see what I mean regarding these changes, I can upload three videos (from 2003, 2004, and 2005) as unlisted links on YouTube so they stay private to just this group. You can find them
here. I’m turning 24 this month, but honestly, these developmental shifts have been weighing on me all this time. Just these constant reminders of how I changed during puberty. My growth spurts and my voice changes both just... stopped completely when I was 15.
Thanks a lot for listening and for any insight you can offer. 🙂

Go talk to your doctor and get your hormone levels checked.
Sean Mitchell Sean Mitchell Member
11 messages
joined May 2016
#379 ·
Larry Walker24 said:Go talk to your doctor and get your hormone levels checked.

Honestly, I don't think it's a hormone issue. I've brought these exact concerns up with my family and even a psychologist, and the consensus was always that I'm perfectly fine and just overthinking things—specifically regarding how awkward I looked during puberty and my weird voice. It’s entirely possible I just haven't fully processed those changes yet. As for the posture issues, I wasn't exactly an athlete growing up; I didn't spend my time playing soccer or basketball like most kids. I lived in my own little bubble, preoccupied with other stuff. Since my growth spurt kicked in early around age 11, the physical shifts were already obvious by 12. For instance, one side of my ribcage actually looked larger than the other back then. By the following year, I ended up with some mild scoliosis in my lower back because of how I carried myself. It's almost certainly just the fallout from that rapid growth phase.
velvetskipper8 velvetskipper8 Member
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#380 ·
How talkative are your teenagers, say around the 14 or 15-year-old mark? I look at my buddies' kids and some of them—honestly, they just don't shut up. They come home and spill everything about school, who they talked to, where they went, the whole nine yards. Then there's the complete opposite end of the spectrum—the ones who act like talking is physically painful. All I get is "I don't know," "nothing," "fine," and so on. That’s the kid I’ve got. Some coworkers have even confirmed this happened to them with their own kids too, and they basically just say it’s a phase that eventually passes.
I was browsing online looking for some perspective, and everyone seems to be preaching about "finding oneself" during adolescence and the need for parental support without being overbearing or pushy.
I honestly have no clue where the line is for what counts as "normal" behavior, but I certainly don't remember going through some grand period of "searching for myself" when I was that age.

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