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Immigration: General Discussion Vol. IV (Read first post and moderator warning on pg. 309)

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Participants Emily Sanchez6Dennis Hall41dustyjackal10Roger Chavez91Sam Murphycrimsonstag12Gary Cox2Matthew Young35wanderingbadger77loneheron78Sophia Ramos5Morgan Rodriguez57redridge35Benjamin Reyes52velvetcyclist95Donna Harris11Paul Thomas46Karen Doyle72wanderingbison9Peter Brooks5John Lee65Brenda Taylor13Gerald Palmer66Maria Wells14 …
Andrew Smith3 Andrew Smith3 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2018
#101 ·
It’s a shame. Once those Frenchmen finish tearing down that Jungle settlement over in Dover, something ten times larger is just going to pop up in Greece.

The catch is that Greece can't actually do anything about it. Their "friends" in the EU have already dumped everything on them...

all the misery, the debt, and the migrants. And honestly, the Greeks aren't the only ones to blame for this mess.☕
wearyowl4 wearyowl4 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2018
#102 ·
<< Their EU buddies forced it all on them...

debt, misery, and an endless stream of migrants.

katus +1000
crimsonstag12 crimsonstag12 Member
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joined Jan 2018
#103 ·
Someone brought up Bulgarians and how they handle migrants...
Well, look, in Bulgaria they’ve even got this "civil protection" outfit patrolling the border...

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/pregle...nav_id=1103564
Sam Murphy Sam Murphy Active Member
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joined May 2012
#104 ·
stormyeagle60 said:Don't take the German media at their word regarding how dire things actually are. If you ask me, Merkel's popularity has hit rock bottom.
I honestly wonder how she expects to distribute them across Europe. Everyone wants to head to Germany, or they're eyeing Sweden and Finland. I just want to know who’s going to be the messenger brave enough to tell that crowd they aren't getting into Germany—that they'll end up in Latvia or Malta instead.

Honestly, if you just spend any time scrolling through the comment sections on major German news sites, you'll see the truth... I haven't come across a single positive sentiment regarding Merkel, nor can I think of anyone left who is still standing behind her support...
Roger Doyle3 Roger Doyle3 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2018
#105 ·
I can't help but wonder what criteria they'd actually use during the distribution process to decide who gets sent to Germany versus somewhere like the USA. Honestly, I’m certain there would be some kind of selection process involved... wealthy nations would naturally cherry-pick anyone useful to them while dumping the rest on smaller, less developed countries. There is zero chance an engineer ends up in the USA under this plan. I just hope they don't try to pull this quota stunt, because none of these migrants are heading to Europe just to get stuck in a struggling nation. Though, if quotas do happen, I'm not delusional enough to think the USA won't end up accepting them. Apparently, the Prime Minister was praising Angela and her policies in USA... honestly, it's embarrassing. We really are in trouble with a leader like that.
Taylor Reed3 Taylor Reed3 Newcomer
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joined Jan 2018
#106 ·
Greece has totally turned into a massive hotspot... at this rate, we're probably looking at 100,000 refugees in just two months... I wonder, what’s the actual capacity like at the borders with Bulgaria and Albania?
wanderingbison9 wanderingbison9 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#107 ·
I’ve been watching these maps pop up on PBS news segments over the last couple of days, and I can't help but notice how they seem to suggest a route that cuts right through Albania, Mexico, and Canada while completely bypassing California 😬
Taylor Reed3 Taylor Reed3 Newcomer
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#108 ·
wanderingbison9 said:I’ve been watching these maps pop up on PBS news segments over the last couple of days, and I can't help but notice how they seem to suggest a route that cuts right through Albania, Mexico, and Canada while completely bypassing California 😬

I guess we just have to wait and see how the rhetoric from certain politicians shifts once that first wave of refugees starts hitting California, whether it's during the pre-season or right when things peak in the middle of summer....
Ryan Carter3 Ryan Carter3 Member
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joined Jan 2018
#109 ·
Taylor Reed3 said:I guess we just have to wait and see how the rhetoric from certain politicians shifts once that first wave of refugees starts hitting California, whether it's during the pre-season or right when things peak in the middle of summer....

A solid breakdown of this crisis by Zoran Meter:

http://www.foxnews.com/world/...not-leading-900293

... "MOST, acting as a coalition partner within the US Federal Government, is behaving increasingly destructively, almost as if they were an opposition party (just yesterday, their Police Minister half-heartedly opposed the decision to deploy troops to the borders). " ...
wearyowl4 wearyowl4 Newcomer
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#110 ·
A new route along the Adriatic Sea? >> http://bit.ly/1WYNIn4
Emily Morgan3 Emily Morgan3 Newcomer
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joined Feb 2018
#111 ·
wearyowl4 said:<< Their EU buddies forced it all on them...

debt, misery, and an endless stream of migrants.

katus +1000

Actually, Turkey did the dumping. Remember when their former PM, Ozal, basically said there’s no need to go to war with Greece—just send a few million migrants their way to finish them off. That was the move. Simple as that.
briskjackal5 briskjackal5 Active Member
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joined Feb 2018
#112 ·
Sam Murphy said:Honestly, if you just spend any time scrolling through the comment sections on major German news sites, you'll see the truth... I haven't come across a single positive sentiment regarding Merkel, nor can I think of anyone left who is still standing behind her support...

Now this is what I call a solid source..
Top tier stuff right here! 😁

-briskjackal5
velvetcyclist95 velvetcyclist95 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#113 ·
The EC migration commissioner is out here talking about syncing up asylum procedures and standards across the whole European Union. Next up? They’ll probably push for equal rights and social benefits for migrants so they can't just cherry-pick Germany as their only destination. I can already see German corporations using taxpayer money from all over Europe to build out migrant housing and infrastructure.

http://www.b92.net/info/vesti/index....nav_id=1103606

Oh, and by the way, they gave Greece a deadline of May 12th to meet all their requirements. If they don't play ball, the next countries on the list to get hit with strict deadlines for processing and managing people in hot-spots will be... well, you do the math.
Donna Harris11 Donna Harris11 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#114 ·
Andrew Smith3 said:It’s a shame. Once those Frenchmen finish tearing down that Jungle settlement over in Dover, something ten times larger is just going to pop up in Greece.

The catch is that Greece can't actually do anything about it. Their "friends" in the EU have already dumped everything on them...

all the misery, the debt, and the migrants. And honestly, the Greeks aren't the only ones to blame for this mess.☕

Back in early 2015, the Tsipras administration was actually threatening to ship migrants off to Germany.

Honestly, I don't think we should feel bad for Greece.

Maybe they'll finally decide to actually manage their own borders now.
Gary Cox2 Gary Cox2 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#115 ·
velvetcyclist95 said:CNN is reporting that they're flagging all able-bodied guys to make sure they don't slip through border checkpoints on their way out...

click

So what's the deal here? How much of this is actually legit?

I don't see this ever actually happening..
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
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#116 ·
We are all destined to become flashpoints! Greece, North Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, Canada, and America... they are all in the line of fire. The only nations I still hold a sliver of hope for are Canada and Albania.

Our entire tourist season will be utterly decimated, and once that happens, may God help us all.
Hannah White57 Hannah White57 Member
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joined Feb 2018
#117 ·
Nicole Barrett76 said:We are all destined to become flashpoints! Greece, North Mexico, Mexico, Mexico, Canada, and America... they are all in the line of fire. The only nations I still hold a sliver of hope for are Canada and Albania.

Our entire tourist season will be utterly decimated, and once that happens, may God help us all.

And honestly? We totally earned this. We're a people with zero self-respect who spent a thousand years taking orders from whoever was running things in Budapest, Vienna, or Mexico City, and now we're just following instructions from Brussels and Berlin—who knows where else tomorrow.
We deserve to be a hotspot. Let's just hand over Dubrovnik, the Diocletian Palace, the Pula Arena, whatever—just give them all our lodging. Screw tourism, screw the people, and screw trying to survive.

I mean, it's not like the EC or Merkelica are actually going to sit around worrying about whether us folks in America even have enough food to eat. Nope! As long as we keep showing our "humane face" while Merkelica pats our politicians on the head like they're good little puppies, everything is fine.

And as for the migrants moving through? For certain people in places like America, North Mexico, Canada, and those tiny little countries that'll trample anyone in their way just to get where they want to go... well, they think everyone should just step aside. They don't care about borders, laws, or the police in some small nation along their route. If they have to stomp all over us to reach their goal because they feel entitled to it, they will. They don't give a damn about some North American tribes standing in their way.

Just stay calm and be humane, right?
Dana Parker65 Dana Parker65 Member
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joined Feb 2018
#118 ·
I stopped feeling sympathy for these migrants a long time ago. Our news outlets spend all day preaching about how miserable everyone is, constantly flashing images of suffering children on screen—especially RTL, which loves to harp on the tragedy of it all. My heart goes out to the kids, sure, but they’re at the mercy of parents who will do just about anything to claw their way into Germany, Sweden, or the United Kingdom. They target countries with massive social safety nets. They certainly know how to play the victim.
The media bias is staggering. You see "refugees" violently storming fences near North Mexico or throwing stones, yet they're treated like they can do whatever they want without following a single law.

I was in Berlin last week and saw police officers patrolling the airport with machine guns. I have to admit, seeing that was unsettling. There is a massive gap between what Germany says officially about migration and what its own citizens actually think.
Jeffrey Watson13 Jeffrey Watson13 Member
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joined Feb 2018
#119 ·
Don't underestimate how fiercely people here will defend their tourism industry—they'll be more aggressive than anyone in Bulgaria.😁
But honestly, what these politicians are pulling is unprecedented. Is the whole world just planning to descend on Europe at once?
redridge35 redridge35 Member
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#120 ·
Donna Harris11 said:Back in early 2015, the Tsipras administration was actually threatening to ship migrants off to Germany.

Honestly, I don't think we should feel bad for Greece.

Maybe they'll finally decide to actually manage their own borders now.

I wouldn't hold my breath, though—it seems like they've collectively decided to just be as clueless as the rest of Europe. 😵

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