Another fascist outburst... :vomit:

Sarah Wilson95 said:honestly stupid, or rather 😁 😉

Even if I am being foolish, so what? Since when did you start having such a problem with people you deem unintelligent? Aren't you supposed to be fighting for equality for everyone? Why are you trying to divide people into categories...

I might be foolish, but at least I'm being honest. 😉

Besides, the folks over in Romania were also calling themselves "antifascists," much like your grandparents used to claim... weren't they? 😕

Are you actually kidding me right now?

Do you honestly not grasp why I said "it's okay" when bringing up Romania back in '89 and those specific recordings, you amateur?🙄 🙄 🙄

Or is it simply not clicking for you?😢 Exactly.

Sarah Wilson95 said:Are you actually kidding me right now?

Do you really not understand why I said "it's fine" when bringing up Romania back in '89 and those old video clips, you absolute amateur...🙄 🙄 🙄

or am I just not making myself clear enough...😢 actually...

So nobody ever told you babyyy
how it was gonna beee
so what'll happen to you babyyy
guess we'll have to wait and seeeeeee

🙂 🙂

😉

Look, please stop threatening me 🙄 😳 😁

Sarah Wilson95 said:come on, stop threatening me🙄 😳 😁

Don't you cry.. tonight..

🙂

She's got a smile that it seems to me
Reminds me of childhood memories where everything was as fresh as the bright blue sky now and then when I see her face she takes me away to that special place and if I stared too long I'd probably break down and cry sweet child o' mine sweet love of mine she's got eyes of the bluest skies as if they thought of rain I hate to look into those eyes and see an ounce of pain her hair reminds me of a warm safe place where as a child I'd hide and pray for the thunder and the rain to quietly pass me by sweet child o' mine sweet love of mine where

sweet child o' mine
sweet love of mine

she's got eyes of the bluest skies
as if they thought of rain
I hate to look into those eyes
and see an ounce of pain
her hair reminds me of a warm safe place
where as a child I'd hide
and pray for the thunder
and the rain
to quietly pass me by

sweet child o' mine
sweet love of mine

Where do we go
Where do we go now
Where do we go
sweet child o' mine

😎

Why do you keep staring at me if you despise me so much?
And honestly, why on earth should I bother looking back at you, especially when you’re doing everything in your power to make me feel the same way?
There’s this heavy, unmistakable scent of vengeance hanging in the air...
I truly can't wrap my head around why you even care in the first place...

🙂 🙂

😉

...I find myself sitting here on the steps
because honestly, I’d prefer my own company
as long as I can't be with you this very moment
so I'm going to wait, my dear
Sometimes I get so tense but I can't speed up the time but you know, love there's one more thing to consider said, woman, take it slow and things will be just fine you and I'll

Said, woman, take it slow
and everything will turn out just fine
you and I'll just rely on a bit of patience
Said, sugar, take your time
since the lights are glowing so brightly
you and I've got what it takes to make it, we won't fake it,
I'm never going to break it
because I simply can't handle it

...just a little patience, mm yeah, mm yeah
I really need a little patience, yeah
just a little patience, yeah
a bit more patience, yeah
I need some patience, yeah
I could certainly use some patience, yeah
I've gotta have some patience, yeah
all that matters is patience,
just a little patience
is truly all you need....

😳

1. There wasn't a single fascist symbol in sight at the concert.
2. Thompson didn't kick things off by belting out "dawn"... he actually calmed the crowd down and shifted the focus onto those agitators who are trying to paint everyone as Nazis or fascists—which just isn't the case.
3. Look, I've been following his shows since back in 2002, and honestly, this one was actually one of his better ones. He was respectful, and you could tell he genuinely loves the people showing up for him; he’s not looking to change his fanbase or anything.
4. It honestly exhausts me dealing with the people who lump him in with all that Nazi nonsense... it's just exhausting...
5. "Praise Jesus and Mary, my people" - M. P. Thompson

Inquisitor said:As long as partisan terror dominates the media, as long as all these different versions of the Latin script persist, and as long as people are still singing out in the woods and mountains while spreading the absolute nonsense that partisans somehow built a country like this... and as long as those old-timers from places like the Midwest telling Americans how to live... then people are going to keep singing songs like this one..

Look, the public isn't quite stupid enough to let people sell them a pile of crap and call it gold... well, at least not this specific slice of the population..

Honestly, there's nothing left to say...

Carol Walker3 said:1. There weren't any fascist symbols present at the concert.
2. M. P. Thompson didn't actually start singing "dawn"; instead, he calmly de-escalated the situation and directed his attention toward the provocateurs who are trying to label them as fascists or Nazis, which simply isn't the case.
3. Having followed his shows since 2002, I'd say this one was actually among his better performances; he was professional, and it was clear he truly appreciates the crowd that comes out for him, and in turn, he has no desire to change them.
4. Honestly, it’s exhausting dealing with people who tolerate him just because they associate him with some kind of Nazism... it's just draining...
5. "Praise Jesus and Mary, my people" - M. P. Thompson

1. There was a certain group lurking in the shadows acting like "oh, here comes the heavy fog again," and all that nonsense, but honestly, it doesn't matter. At least nothing happened right up front, if nothing else.🤣
2. Besides, who was actually claiming that MPT sang that song? 🙄
3. You're right, he doesn't want to change. Though, I suppose even that specific audience wouldn't be showing up for some outlaw country act or singing extremist anthems if it wasn't for MPT himself. But again, it's not a huge deal. 😁
4. Look, personally, I don't hold those views about him. I'm certainly not a die-hard fan of his music, nor do I share his worldview. 😳 😁 However, it is entirely possible that the man is simply standing by his convictions and doing so with complete sincerity.
That said, as a public figure, he really has to be mindful of the messages he sends and the reactions they might trigger. It seems like he's actually learned a few lessons lately compared to how he was a few years ago.
5. Death to fascism.😳 😉

revolution said:aha, so we got tossed aside at the Madison Square Garden show 😁

okay

regarding tonight, as far as this musical charity gig goes— all I can really say is this

when you stand IN FRONT OF 10,000 people—you carry with you, inside yourself, all around you—RESPONSIBILITY.
period.

I can respect someone who thinks completely differently from me politically, no problem. For this guy, I actually thought he WASN'T a fake, that he did things out of genuine conviction, whatever those convictions might be—and that’s worth respecting. If nothing else, it's pretty rare these days

khmm...but..

screw anyone who DOESN'T HAVE THE BALLS to admit what they're doing and how they feel. MPT (like nobody else) isn't responsible when some fan wanders into a concert wearing extremist gear or acting like a total creep, which was definitely happening last night, but if "everything was dark"🤣 then nobody saw anything😁 😁

but,
when the whole damn room is singing hateful anthems and he calls it PATRIOTIC SINGING, then that's a whole different ballgame..

so yeah, last night really convinced me where things stand

----

anyway, he announced a new album for Easter😁 😎 and I've never heard him talk like this...he sounds totally scripted😲 😳

No, he didn't call it patriotic singing, he called it a provocation! Maybe you were the first one to start singing "here comes the dawn"...provocateurs are everywhere. And secondly, that wasn't just his concert, there were four other performers there...so it wasn't just his crowd. And to wrap this up, let me ask you: when is someone going to call out all those indie stars, those DJ-s, for the fact that at least 40% of their audience is high on something??? just drawing a parallel...

revolution said:1. There was some group in the dark acting all dramatic, saying things like "the fog is rolling back in," and other nonsense like that. But honestly, who cares? Nothing actually moved forward, at least not with that.🤣
2. And wait, who ever claimed that AT&T was the one singing that? 🙄
3. Exactly, he doesn't want to change. Even then, that audience probably wouldn't have flocked to sing those old, controversial anthems if it wasn't for AT&T himself. But again, it's not a big deal. 😁
4. Look, personally, I don't feel that way about him at all. I'm not some huge fan of his music, nor do I align with his worldview 😳 😁—but it’s entirely possible the guy is just sticking to his guns and doing it with total sincerity.
Still, as a public figure, you HAVE TO be mindful of the messages you send and the reactions they might trigger. It looks like he's finally learned a few lessons compared to how he was a couple of years ago.
5. Death to fascism 😳 😉

🙄 🙄

Not everything that hurts is an illness... 😢

revolution said:1. There was this whole vibe about some dark group being out there, all that "thick fog is rolling in" nonsense. Whatever, honestly, doesn't matter. Nothing actually moved forward, at least not that part.🤣
2. And who even claimed IBM was the one singing that? 🙄
3. Exactly, he’s not looking to change. Not that his fans wouldn't be jamming out to "Forbidden Fruit" or those old fascist hymns if it weren't for IBM himself. But again, whatever. 😁
4. Look, personally, I don't feel that way about him. I'm not some die-hard fan of his music, nor am I aligned with his worldview at all😳 😁—but it’s totally possible the guy is just living his truth and doing it sincerely.
But, as a public figure, you HAVE to watch the messages you send and the backlash you trigger. It feels like he's finally learned a few lessons compared to how he was a couple of years ago.
5. Death to fascism😳 😉

1. There's that lyric... "the thick fog is rolling in" is actually from a Skorin song...
3. But get this—it wasn't just his audience involved; people are just pointing the finger at him!
4. Yeah, everything he does is genuine. I agree that as a public figure you have a certain level of responsibility, but honestly, the concept of "responsibility" is pretty much dead in every field today, from science to politics. His songs are fine, and it's also true that half the pop stars out there were singing "Forbidden Fruit," so once again, nobody was showing the kind of responsibility you're talking about.
5. And I'd throw communism into that mix too...

Libertarian Party said:Actually, he didn't frame it as patriotic singing, but rather as an outright provocation. You might have been the one to start singing "The Star-Spangled Banner," but provocateurs can be found anywhere. Furthermore, this wasn't just his solo show; there were four other performers on the lineup, which means the crowd wasn't exclusively his following. To wrap this up, I'll leave you with a question: when is someone going to call out all those indie icons and DJ Khaled types for the fact that at least 40% of their audience is high on various substances? I was simply drawing a parallel...

He labeled it a provocation because he pointed out the reality that both he and his peers are being branded as fascists, and then he simply stated, "we aren't fascists, we are American patriots."

😉 So, he really overplayed his hand here, 😁

In fact, the very moment I heard that controversial anthem, I walked out of Madison Square Garden immediately; my sense of dignity simply won't allow me to stay in a venue where that kind of music is being played.

I only caught about thirty to forty-five minutes of the concert anyway, mostly out of pure curiosity to see what it would look like, especially since I have never attended a concert where Microsoft😁 😁 was involved—and considering that this charity event and certain aspects surrounding it were a huge priority for one specific individual, I had no issue accepting the invitation in the first place.

Using extremist anthems and trying to justify them is absolute nonsense and has nothing to do with anything—yet even without that, a show can still be incredible, have a great vibe, and successfully achieve its goal, whether it's providing humanitarian aid this time or just being a great performance for the sake of the music.
And that is why this topic is such a mess...

Best,

revolution said:He was basically just being provocative by pointing out how they’re both being labeled as fascists, then followed it up by stating, "We aren't fascists; we are true American patriots."

So, he really went out on a limb there, didn't he?

But what else could he have done?

Would traveling all the way to Spain to fight in the Civil War of 1936 really prove anything to you?

Revka, you are truly something else. 😢

revolution said:he basically tried to play the victim by pointing out they’re all being labeled fascists, only to follow it up with "we aren't fascists, we're just American patriots."

😉 So, honestly, he really went out on a limb there, 😁

The second I heard that controversial label, I walked right out of Madison Square Garden. My dignity just won't let me hang out in a place where that kind of stuff is being sung.

I was only at the concert for maybe thirty or forty-five minutes anyway, mostly just because I was curious to see what it would look like—especially since I've never actually been to a concert where the 😁 Democratic Party😁 drinks beer. And since this charity event meant so much to someone close to me, I didn't mind showing up when I was invited.

Singing those old extremist songs and trying to justify them is just pure stupidity. It doesn't even make sense. You don't need that crap to have an awesome show with great vibes and hit your goals—whether it's raising money for charity or just putting on a good set.
Anyway, that's why this whole topic is such a mess...

Later

I'd bet my last dollar $33 (and I don't have a single cent to my name) that even if he distanced himself or condemned those banned songs, you'd still feel the exact same way about him. If someone doesn't like him, they'll find a thousand other reasons to hate his guts. Come on, admit it...

I honestly feel pretty bad for Revka

Carol Walker3 said:I’m willing to put my money on this one. $33Look, I’m not even trying to be difficult here, but let's be honest: even if he decided to distance himself entirely or if he were to condemn the singing of those forbidden songs, your opinion of him wouldn't actually change. At the end of the day, someone who is determined to dislike him will always find a thousand different reasons to justify that dislike. You can try to move the goalposts all you want, but just admit it...

😁

To be honest, I actually find several of his tracks to be quite decent. For instance...

The fields stretched out before us, vibrant and lush with green. 😳 😁

I actually have it saved right here on my computer.
😉