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driftinghawk83 said:So how does the Neteller thing actually work?

Now I'm curious too. 😁

I've just been using PayPal and never really looked into anything else besides getting my money into my checking account.

PayPal offers this, which I guess lets you pull cash from an ATM:

https://www.moneybookers.com/ads/mastercard/

But you still need a bank account for that, right? 🤷

Bryan Adams6 said:http://www.neteller.com/personal/get-a-prepaid-card/ 👍

Is it possible to withdraw funds here in the States?

goldenmaker32 said:Now I'm curious about 😁

I've just been using PayPal and honestly haven't looked into anything else besides getting my cash into my bank account.

PayPal actually does this, so you can probably just hit an ATM:

https://www.moneybookers.com/ads/mastercard/

But you still need a bank account for that, right? 🤷

Whoa, they actually modernized. 👍
That's it. Money's in the account, grab it from the ATM, and you're out.

driftinghawk83 said:Can you actually cash out money here in the States?

Never tried it myself, but I think someone on this board mentioned it's doable... if I remember right, some guy from Citigroup was talking about it.

Bryan Adams6 said:Wow, looks like they finally caught up with the times. 👍
It's simple—get the cash in your account, hit the ATM, and you're done.

Does anyone know what the daily limit is? I can't find anything listed...
Back home, it's usually around $1667 I think.

Bryan Adams6 said:I haven't tried it myself, but I think someone mentioned it could work here... if I remember correctly, maybe that guy from Citigroup was talking about it.

If our local authorities can't even figure this out, then we're in good shape. 😁

goldenmaker32 said:What's the daily limit? I can't find it anywhere...
I think it's $1667 here in the States.

🤷

marsovacc said:I’ve got PayPal too, but now I have zero clue how to actually request the card. Do I need to sign up all over again or what the hell? 🤷

Looks like they're charging a $10 annual fee there. I got a free card through Western Union and it showed up in my mailbox in about 10 days.

The card finally shows up after ten days—and then, naturally, the PIN arrives a few days later... what a joke.

Bryan Adams6 said:🤷

A few questions here:

Are these debit or credit cards?

It says: "you can only spend the money you have in your account."

So now I'm wondering—how does an ATM, say at JP Morgan Chase, actually know it's okay to hand over cash if it isn't a credit card?

Since it's a Mastercard, wouldn't PayPal need to clear everything through a local authorized bank, which would just mean the bank gets a look at my account anyway?

goldenmaker32 said:A few questions:

are these cards debit or credit?

it says: you can only spend the money you have in your account.

So now I’m wondering, how does an ATM, like one from JP Morgan Chase, even know it's okay to give me cash if it isn't a credit card?

Since it's a Mastercard, doesn't PayPal need to go through an authorized local bank here in the States, which would basically mean the bank gets a look at my account anyway?

It's a prepaid Mastercard from PayPal
You only spend what's actually in your account.

Bryan Adams6 said:It's just a prepaid Mastercard from PayPal
You can only spend what's actually sitting in your account.

The problem is an ATM won't let you withdraw anything with a card like that if it can't verify your balance first.🤷

goldenmaker32 said:The ATM isn't going to let you withdraw anything with a card like that if it can't verify your account balance. 🤷

Look, I’m not gonna pretend I’ve actually pulled cash out of an ATM myself, but if the signs at the station say you can withdraw money, and the forum says you can too... then yeah, it probably works. Simple as that.

So, they're looking for Neteller / Skrill masters who have actually pulled cash out of an ATM...

Bryan Adams6 said:I won't pretend to be an expert since I haven't pulled cash from an ATM myself, but if the stations say you can withdraw money, and the forum says you can too... then it should work...

Essentially, we're looking for Neteller / Skrill master users who have actually withdrawn cash at an ATM....

I'm interested in this as well.

edit: is it possible to deposit into Marathon using PayPal?

driftinghawk83 said:That's exactly what I'm wondering too.

edit: can you actually use PayPal to fund a Marathon account?

👍
http://help.marathonbet.com/en/payments/

goldenmaker32 said:The ATM isn't going to let you withdraw anything with a card like that if it can't verify your account balance. 🤷

Where's that coming from? Why on earth would an ATM or some random bank have access to my account details? Besides, legally, they aren't even allowed to touch that stuff.

It’s pretty straightforward—if you don't have the funds, you aren't getting them out. The ATM or the bank doesn't care about your account balance. It's just like trying to buy something on eBay with an empty checking account; the transaction simply won't go through.

Card issuers and banks have these backend services—whatever you want to call them—that handle everything. You punch in your PIN and the amount you want, and at that exact moment, the ATM or the bank pings someone like MasterCard x. If MasterCard x says no, you get a declined message. If they approve it, you get your cash and that's that.

Douglas Roberts49, you might know—can I actually use a different shipping address for my card or mail than the one on my PayPal profile?

goldenmaker32 said:The ATM isn't going to let you make any claims about using a card like that if it doesn't have direct access to your account. 🤷

If you have funds sitting in your PayPal account or on your card, any standard ATM should recognize them for withdrawals, and they work just fine at retail terminals for payments. My main issue was—though I'm not sure if things have changed recently—that PayPal hasn't offered a dedicated card for use here in the States, or at least that was my experience back in the day.
It feels exactly the same when some American, Norwegian, Brit, or Chinese traveler tries to withdraw cash or settle a bill while they're visiting the States. 🙂

Joshua Garcia8 said:Banks and card issuers have backend systems—whatever you want to call them—that handle these transactions. You punch in your PIN and the amount you want, and at that exact moment, the ATM or the bank pings someone like MasterCard X saying this card wants to withdraw Y dollars. If MasterCard declines, you get an error message; if they approve it, the cash comes out. That's basically it.

That’s the part I was missing in this whole thing. 👍
Is that a guarantee, though? 😁

Timothy Martin52 said:If there's money in your Skrill account or on the card, any ATM will recognize it and dispense cash, or a merchant will accept it if you're paying. The issue used to be—and I don't know if it's still a problem—that Skrill didn't offer a card for the US. At least that's how it was last time I checked.
It's the same deal as when some American, Norwegian, Brit, or Chinese person tries to pull cash or pay for something here in the States. 🙂

If what Joshua Garcia8 said is true, then we're all set. Might as well head over to Denver for a shopping spree! 🙂

Joshua Garcia8 said:Hey zoom, you happen to know if you can use a different shipping address for your card/mail than the one on your ID at PayPal?

No clue. Just shoot them an email and send a screenshot of the inquiry.

Bryan Adams6 said:I have no idea. Just send them an email with a screenshot of your inquiry...

You can just change the address. Go into edit address and put whatever you want.

goldenmaker32 said:That was the one thing missing from this whole thing 👍
Pretty sure that's how it works, right? 😁

If what she said is true, I'm taking all five of them and heading straight to the mall in Denver! 🙂

I wouldn't dare claim anything is a certainty, let alone something I'm not even involved in 😬 but that's how it should be.

Balance - c/p with Skrill

Unlike credit cards, prepaid cards have no overdraft facility available as spend is limited to the amount that has been uploaded to the card.

Unlike debit cards, a prepaid card is not associated with a bank account but with a virtual account such as the PayPal. Hence transactions made by a prepaid card do not appear on bank statements but on your PayPal transaction history.

I'm pretty sure government agencies—and I don't just mean here in the US—have ways and rules to demand transaction logs from any random "online wallet." But I also bet they only bother with that for huge sums, money laundering, and stuff like that.

Bryan Adams6 said:No clue, just email them a screenshot of your inquiry

You've been a massive help, thanks a ton 😁
I use Skrill, so I'll send them an inquiry.

Bryan Adams6 said:What do I know? I don't need to hide my address like she does to keep her Mastercard from showing up at the house so she doesn't get chewed out by her husband for betting again 🤣

I'm busted, again 😢