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wiredmason56 wiredmason56 Active Member
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#3401 ·
mistycrane19 said:Look, I never even wanted to touch Xanax. A close friend of mine used to take them and kept saying how "great" they were, and how you always just want one more. 😬
-Since I’m genetically prone to addiction, I'm terrified of how that would end up playing out..

-Coming off Oxazepam was pure misery. It required hospitalization, and honestly, I was praying for death. It was just too much. Every time I think back to 😢

It’s actually wild that you managed to get such a tiny amount of Paxil. There was a stretch where I was popping them like Tic Tacs, but now my psychiatrist has switched me over to Ativan or Xanax. Honestly, most of those benzos feel like a trap, especially if you're like me and have that tendency to get hooked.
mistycrane19 mistycrane19 Active Member
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#3402 ·
wiredmason56 said:It’s actually wild that you managed to get such a tiny amount of Paxil. There was a stretch where I was popping them like Tic Tacs, but now my psychiatrist has switched me over to Ativan or Xanax. Honestly, most of those benzos feel like a trap, especially if you're like me and have that tendency to get hooked.

Exactly. The real issue is that these "magic" pills work a little too well to resist... at least for me. Honestly, as I get older, I've mastered the art of escaping to another reality in my head while staying physically present. I just wish I didn't need a pill to do it.😁
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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#3403 ·
Listen, if you’re already taking something for anxiety—an anxiolytic, if we’re being technical—please, I beg you, try to choose the option that is least damaging to your system. And how do we even decide that? Well, everything follows a certain logic, whether it’s based on potency or some other metric, and I suppose these medications are often categorized by their mechanism of action or just their sheer strength, which is really what matters here.
Who actually cares about how they're sorted alphabetically? What really matters is how they stack up in terms of potency. Personally, I’ve experimented with almost every type of anxiolytic out there, ranging from the milder stuff to Xanax, Lorazepam, Bromazepam, Diazepam, Oxazepam, and I could go on forever without listing them all. I have a temperament that is, frankly, very prone to addiction, so whenever a new pill hits the market, I feel this compulsion to try it—especially if it's a benzo... ah, those sweet benzos.😁 They’ve done quite a bit of damage to my life, though I suppose they helped at times too.
What I mean is that specifically that much-touted Xanax—whether it's under a brand name or generic—works "sweetest." It provides that instant kill for tremors and anxiety, but that pleasant sensation only lasts about two hours, which makes it incredibly dangerous. You see, when something helps a person that quickly—and we’re talking about a profound sense of comfort and relaxation—it starts to feel like a little diamond for the soul. That’s precisely why people start escalating their doses without even realizing it, or maybe they just think, "Eh, it doesn't matter if I take one extra... it's not like it's a big deal." But tolerance builds. Eventually, one pill isn't enough anymore, and you find yourself needing two or three just to chase that same feeling you got when a single dose used to do the trick.
It’s easy to get lost in that labyrinth. I guess I've written quite a bit about this without even thinking, because the words just flow since I've lived through it all. I’ve been addicted, I’ve gone through the withdrawals, and I know exactly what I'm talking about. So, if anyone is struggling, needs advice, or finds themselves in the exact same position I was in, please feel free to send me a private message.

As I mentioned earlier, the primary culprit when it comes to building tolerance and eventually falling into addiction is Xanax (generic alprazolam).

In my view, the best option is Diazepam. History has proven its utility in countless cases.
The generic name is Diazepam, though it might be sold under names like Ativan, Valium, or several others depending on where you are.
Back in the 70s, when this medication first started seeing widespread use, it was even available in liquid form. It was actually administered to heroin addicts just to help stabilize and calm them down. That should tell you something; if a drug can provide relief to a heavy-duty addict, it carries a certain weight. It gives Diazepam a level of credibility that puts it at the top of the hierarchy regarding efficacy.
Diazepam is fundamentally different from its counterpart, Xanax. While Xanax focuses on wiping out tremors and tension, Diazepam relaxes the entire body. It has this pervasive relaxing effect on both the physical body and the mind that Xanax just lacks. Furthermore, its effects last much, much longer; its half-life is roughly 24 hours. So, by every parameter and statistical measure, Diazepam is significantly more effective, and crucially, it isn't nearly as addictive as that foolish Xanax. Ugh, I could probably go on for another two hours about how it works, but I don't want to bore everyone... I just want people to recognize the difference and always, always choose Diazepam over alprazolam (Xanax).

So, people, please, choose wisely. Go with Diazepam, whether it's branded as Ativan or Valium—you won't go wrong. 😉
wiredmason56 wiredmason56 Active Member
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#3404 ·
mistycrane19 said:Exactly. The real issue is that these "magic" pills work a little too well to resist... at least for me. Honestly, as I get older, I've mastered the art of escaping to another reality in my head while staying physically present. I just wish I didn't need a pill to do it.😁

I would give anything to not need meds for depression, anxiety, panic attacks, or those random bouts of insomnia. Just to not need them at all. To be able to handle everything on my own... but right now, it's just not happening, and honestly, it makes me so incredibly frustrated.🙂
wiredmason56 wiredmason56 Active Member
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#3405 ·
Kenneth Scott41 said:It’s genuinely good to hear that Seroquel is making a difference for someone. You’re on a pretty high dose, I suppose, but then again... the most important thing is that you're feeling better. Personally, I take 100mg of Seroquel, which seems to be just about right for me—not too little, but not overwhelming either. 😉
For me, this medication has been incredibly helpful, and I truly believe it's one of the most effective antipsychotics out there. It's hard to imagine anything better.

So, what are you taking the Seroquel for? Is it just for insomnia or something else? Personally, I try to stay away from antipsychotics if I can help it. A friend once gave me some Prozac to help when I couldn't sleep—she promised I'd sleep like a baby, and honestly, it worked.🙂
mistycrane19 mistycrane19 Active Member
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#3406 ·
wiredmason56 said:I would give anything to not need meds for depression, anxiety, panic attacks, or those random bouts of insomnia. Just to not need them at all. To be able to handle everything on my own... but right now, it's just not happening, and honestly, it makes me so incredibly frustrated.🙂

Seven years fighting depression, panic attacks, and social phobia. I went five years without a single panic attack before they crawled back. Now I’m trying to phase out the meds since I’m just spinning my wheels on them anyway. Maybe the pills did their job and now I actually have to face this alone. 🤷
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#3407 ·
pegula said:I burned through half my dose of Faverin yesterday, and man, I woke up this morning with the shakes. It was a struggle just to get out of bed and find my footing... 😢

You really ought to ease into it—maybe start with just 1/4 a tablet for three or four days, then move up to a half for a few more days before you finally hit your full dose...
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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joined May 2009
#3408 ·
I suppose I should probably start by saying that I don't claim to have all the answers, but I've been sitting here thinking about this for quite some time now. It seems to me that we often overlook the subtle complexities of how these things actually play out in our daily lives. Maybe I'm being overly cautious, or perhaps I'm just seeing patterns where others see nothing at all, but there's a certain weight to these situations that I think warrants a bit more scrutiny than we usually give them. I guess what I'm trying to get at is that everything is rarely as simple as it appears on the surface, and if we aren't careful, we might find ourselves caught off guard by the very things we thought we understood.
wiredmason56 said:So, what are you taking the Seroquel for? Is it just for insomnia or something else? Personally, I try to stay away from antipsychotics if I can help it. A friend once gave me some Prozac to help when I couldn't sleep—she promised I'd sleep like a baby, and honestly, it worked.🙂


I take it primarily to steady my nerves and stave off those inevitable withdrawal spikes—those frantic, desperate cravings that tend to crawl in when things get rough. It doesn't really have much of a sedative effect on me, I suppose; it’s more about keeping the edge off than actually knocking me out.
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#3409 ·
So, just a heads-up for anyone on Lamictal... apparently, they aren't covering it anymore. I was totally blindsided by that change.
driftinggull21 driftinggull21 Active Member
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#3410 ·
Brandon Newman95 said:So, just a heads-up for anyone on Lamictal... apparently, they aren't covering it anymore. I was totally blindsided by that change.

Why would anyone have been paying for Lamictal anyway, considering it's just a generic?😕
I know the brand-name version required a co-pay, but it's a relief it's on the preferred list now since it's so frequently prescribed.🙂
Brandon Newman95 Brandon Newman95 Active Member
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#3411 ·
driftinggull21 said:Why would anyone have been paying for Lamictal anyway, considering it's just a generic?😕
I know the brand-name version required a co-pay, but it's a relief it's on the preferred list now since it's so frequently prescribed.🙂

Look, I don't know about the generic version, but with Lamictal, you used to have to pay more, but not anymore. Personally, I stick to the brand name. Works fine for me. Saved me some cash. It just goes to show how many people are actually using it.🙂
Matthew White4 Matthew White4 Active Member
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joined Dec 2008
#3412 ·
It’s basically the same thing as Effexor XL 150 mg.
I used to shell out about $6.00
just for the standard Effexor 37.5 mg...$1.00 but now it’s just the price for Xanax
...
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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joined May 2009
#3413 ·
It honestly warms my heart to see more people making the switch to Effexor. I know I might sound like a broken record, and I apologize if I’m being a bit tedious about it, but I truly believe this medication has been my greatest ally, and it continues to be🙂
restlesstrucker15 restlesstrucker15 Regular
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joined Sep 2011
#3414 ·
Dear forum members, it has been quite some time since my last update. For the most part, I am doing alright; my Elice is performing its function, yet I find myself still struggling with persistent insomnia and a growing dependency on hypnotics. Has anyone here utilized Clonazepam for sleep issues, and if so, what dosage did you find effective? My doctor suggested introducing it because of my current reliance on Valium and Dormicum—since Cerson hasn't provided any relief—as a way to facilitate a break from standard hypnotics. She isn't a proponent of using antipsychotics to treat insomnia, and I've found that classic benzodiazepines, such as 20 mg of Valium, merely relax me without actually inducing sleep. I am hopeful that these tablets might offer some assistance, at least by allowing me to step away from the usual hypnotics for a while.😉
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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#3415 ·
restlesstrucker15 said:Dear forum members, it has been quite some time since my last update. For the most part, I am doing alright; my Elice is performing its function, yet I find myself still struggling with persistent insomnia and a growing dependency on hypnotics. Has anyone here utilized Clonazepam for sleep issues, and if so, what dosage did you find effective? My doctor suggested introducing it because of my current reliance on Valium and Dormicum—since Cerson hasn't provided any relief—as a way to facilitate a break from standard hypnotics. She isn't a proponent of using antipsychotics to treat insomnia, and I've found that classic benzodiazepines, such as 20 mg of Valium, merely relax me without actually inducing sleep. I am hopeful that these tablets might offer some assistance, at least by allowing me to step away from the usual hypnotics for a while.😉

Clonazepam is an anticonvulsant used for mood stabilization and provides anxiolytic effects...
"Active ingredient: clonazepam

Brand name registered in the US: Clonazepam

Pharmacotherapeutic group: Anticonvulsant "

http://medlineplus.gov/clonazepam.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonazepam
Kenneth Scott41 Kenneth Scott41 Regular
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joined May 2009
#3416 ·
Has anyone here actually tried using those Fentanyl Patches for pain management?
I’ve heard they’re incredibly versatile and straightforward to use, though I suppose the price tag is quite steep...
ruggedtinker9 ruggedtinker9 Member
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#3417 ·
I have been prescribed 10 mg of Zyprexa... I feel somewhat numb and find myself sleeping far too much, while my drive and motivation seem to be lacking entirely. My life has changed quite significantly since I started this medication, yet I am hesitant to stop because I fear some unforeseen complication might force me back into a hospital setting again. Life can be incredibly difficult.
Timothy Wood38 Timothy Wood38 Active Member
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#3418 ·
ruggedtinker9 said:I have been prescribed 10 mg of Zyprexa... I feel somewhat numb and find myself sleeping far too much, while my drive and motivation seem to be lacking entirely. My life has changed quite significantly since I started this medication, yet I am hesitant to stop because I fear some unforeseen complication might force me back into a hospital setting again. Life can be incredibly difficult.

You really ought to talk to your doctor about adjusting the dosage. No matter how necessary the medication is, the goal should always be finding that "sweet spot"—the dose that actually works while minimizing side effects so you can, you know, actually live your life. When I was on Zyprexa, I started at 2.5 mg and eventually worked my way up to 10 mg. For me, it didn't have that sedative effect. Still, you have to give your body some time to settle into a specific dose before you start tweaking things. And since you're just starting out... well, patience is key. It took me nearly two years to finally land on the right pharmacotherapy. As for the lack of motivation, that usually improves over time, but if there isn't much you can do to offset that specific side effect, maybe the most common workaround is Wellbutrin. Regardless, your doctors are the ones you need to consult; any big decisions should be made in agreement with them. Anyway, hang in there. Good luck.
John Stewart John Stewart Newcomer
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#3419 ·
I’m 15, and I’m popping Lexaurine or Normabel every single day... sometimes I even throw in a Belmiran along with Vitaseng. Is this actually going to wreck my system considering how young I am?
Robin Gonzalez3 Robin Gonzalez3 Member
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#3420 ·
John Stewart said:I’m 15, and I’m popping Lexaurine or Normabel every single day... sometimes I even throw in a Belmiran along with Vitaseng. Is this actually going to wreck my system considering how young I am?

So, what exactly are you taking all this for? Look, don't go killing yourself over whether it's "harmful" or not—honestly, everything can be harmful if you aren't careful with the dosage. These pills could be just as risky as alcohol, weed, or cigarettes if you start overdoing it, you know? But your psychiatrist wouldn't have prescribed this regimen if they thought it was going to wreck you. I'm pretty sure their whole goal is just to help you out—they aren't exactly looking to hand out meds that'll make things worse for you.

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