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Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
110 messages
joined Apr 2010
#4741 ·
shadowfox75 said:Hey everyone,
I’ve been reading through the forum and I completely relate to what you all are going through. My own story is long and would take quite a while to fully recount here. To summarize: I have been on Paxil since 2004. My dosage fluctuates depending on how things are going. In 2006, I lost my father, and in 2007, my mother. I managed to pull through those losses and keep moving forward. Around that time, my neuropsychiatrist put me on Lamictal and Valium due to some erratic EEG readings. For the last two years, my results have been fine. I stopped taking the Valium, and currently, I am at half my usual Paxil dose along with 100mg of Lamictal. The hardest part is the mere thought of tapering off the Paxil. I want to get off it, but... I tried once before and, honestly, it was a nightmare. It feels like flashes of light in my brain. If I blink, there's a flash; if I turn my head, there's a flash. It is genuinely maddening. My psychiatrist noted: "patient attributes their condition to the tapering of Paxil." That pushed me back to a half tablet, and I have been stuck there for two years now. It's exhausting. Part of me thinks about just locking myself in the house and attempting the taper again. But... I'm afraid. I feel like the specialists at GSK haven't even begun to grasp how terrifying this side effect actually is. On the depression forums, people constantly mention this "electric shock" sensation. Does anyone have any advice?

I went through the process of tapering off a massive dose of Effexor—which is notorious for its revolting withdrawal symptoms, including those very "brain zaps" you mentioned—and somehow, I made it out the other side. My approach was to gradually reduce the dosage, though I won't lie, it was an incredibly unpleasant experience. In fact, the "electrical" sensations became secondary to the other physical symptoms I had to endure. But, the trade-off is that I am currently entirely medication-free, and once those symptoms finally subsided, they stayed gone. Taking a full year to do it is a sensible strategy, especially if your symptoms are as intense as yours sound.

One thing many people in our situation consider a "miracle cure" for those brain zaps is taking high doses of Omega-3 fatty acids. I discovered this relatively late in my journey (and it was a bit difficult to source quality supplements since I don't eat animal products), so I can't say for certain if they are truly miraculous, but I would strongly suggest you look into it. Many people find it remarkably effective at mitigating those specific issues. If you decide to go that route, I might be able to help you look up which dosages tend to be most effective, though I don't have the specific numbers memorized right now...

As for psychiatrists, you hit the nail on the head—most of them seem to have absolutely no concept of the physical dependency these psychotropic drugs create (or perhaps they simply choose to ignore the reality of it, though I couldn't say which...).
urbanskipper4 urbanskipper4 Active Member
144 messages
joined Apr 2011
#4742 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:I went through the process of tapering off a massive dose of Effexor—which is notorious for its revolting withdrawal symptoms, including those very "brain zaps" you mentioned—and somehow, I made it out the other side. My approach was to gradually reduce the dosage, though I won't lie, it was an incredibly unpleasant experience. In fact, the "electrical" sensations became secondary to the other physical symptoms I had to endure. But, the trade-off is that I am currently entirely medication-free, and once those symptoms finally subsided, they stayed gone. Taking a full year to do it is a sensible strategy, especially if your symptoms are as intense as yours sound.

One thing many people in our situation consider a "miracle cure" for those brain zaps is taking high doses of Omega-3 fatty acids. I discovered this relatively late in my journey (and it was a bit difficult to source quality supplements since I don't eat animal products), so I can't say for certain if they are truly miraculous, but I would strongly suggest you look into it. Many people find it remarkably effective at mitigating those specific issues. If you decide to go that route, I might be able to help you look up which dosages tend to be most effective, though I don't have the specific numbers memorized right now...

As for psychiatrists, you hit the nail on the head—most of them seem to have absolutely no concept of the physical dependency these psychotropic drugs create (or perhaps they simply choose to ignore the reality of it, though I couldn't say which...).


Hmm, I was on a small dose of Seroquel recently and honestly thought it was making me feel more stable and helping to dial down my anxiety.
At my last check-up, my doctor pulled me off that dose because I was still putting on weight, but she told me that at that level, it was basically acting like a placebo—that there’s hardly any effect compared to a higher dose.

Though, I guess even a placebo isn't a bad thing if you believe in it.
Still, I think she was right; I've been living and working for two weeks now without Seroquel.
I'm holding up pretty well so far.
I'm just taking Anafranil and Fevarin.
Edward Long4 Edward Long4 Member
40 messages
joined Jul 2012
#4743 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:I went through the process of tapering off a massive dose of Effexor—which is notorious for its revolting withdrawal symptoms, including those very "brain zaps" you mentioned—and somehow, I made it out the other side. My approach was to gradually reduce the dosage, though I won't lie, it was an incredibly unpleasant experience. In fact, the "electrical" sensations became secondary to the other physical symptoms I had to endure. But, the trade-off is that I am currently entirely medication-free, and once those symptoms finally subsided, they stayed gone. Taking a full year to do it is a sensible strategy, especially if your symptoms are as intense as yours sound.

One thing many people in our situation consider a "miracle cure" for those brain zaps is taking high doses of Omega-3 fatty acids. I discovered this relatively late in my journey (and it was a bit difficult to source quality supplements since I don't eat animal products), so I can't say for certain if they are truly miraculous, but I would strongly suggest you look into it. Many people find it remarkably effective at mitigating those specific issues. If you decide to go that route, I might be able to help you look up which dosages tend to be most effective, though I don't have the specific numbers memorized right now...

As for psychiatrists, you hit the nail on the head—most of them seem to have absolutely no concept of the physical dependency these psychotropic drugs create (or perhaps they simply choose to ignore the reality of it, though I couldn't say which...).

They just look the other way. Seriously, they had me hooked on 6 grams of Ativan, for god's sake... I ended up quitting on my own and dealt with leg pains, mood swings eight times a day... nothing. They just don't give a damn. It's always just "take your Paxil" and that's it. One guy at the ER actually told me, "Look, I'll risk it and give you an opioid for the pain," and I was like, "Are you out of your mind?" I swear, I've been through it all. They act like prescribing meds is as casual as me going to Walmart to grab a jar of Prego sauce, and if I don't like that one, I'll just swap it for the store brand...😂
shadowfox75 shadowfox75 Active Member
106 messages
joined Oct 2006
#4744 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:I went through the process of tapering off a massive dose of Effexor—which is notorious for its revolting withdrawal symptoms, including those very "brain zaps" you mentioned—and somehow, I made it out the other side. My approach was to gradually reduce the dosage, though I won't lie, it was an incredibly unpleasant experience. In fact, the "electrical" sensations became secondary to the other physical symptoms I had to endure. But, the trade-off is that I am currently entirely medication-free, and once those symptoms finally subsided, they stayed gone. Taking a full year to do it is a sensible strategy, especially if your symptoms are as intense as yours sound.

One thing many people in our situation consider a "miracle cure" for those brain zaps is taking high doses of Omega-3 fatty acids. I discovered this relatively late in my journey (and it was a bit difficult to source quality supplements since I don't eat animal products), so I can't say for certain if they are truly miraculous, but I would strongly suggest you look into it. Many people find it remarkably effective at mitigating those specific issues. If you decide to go that route, I might be able to help you look up which dosages tend to be most effective, though I don't have the specific numbers memorized right now...

As for psychiatrists, you hit the nail on the head—most of them seem to have absolutely no concept of the physical dependency these psychotropic drugs create (or perhaps they simply choose to ignore the reality of it, though I couldn't say which...).

Man, I would be incredibly grateful for that information. I suspect I will face some intense "hits" after my first attempt at tapering. I know staying positive is important, but honestly, that feeling is just too much to handle right now. I just want to be rid of it; nine years on these meds is plenty. Most doctors don't grasp the issue because they claim antidepressants aren't addictive. Isn't that what GSK says? Hmm.
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
110 messages
joined Apr 2010
#4745 ·
shadowfox75 said:Man, I would be incredibly grateful for that information. I suspect I will face some intense "hits" after my first attempt at tapering. I know staying positive is important, but honestly, that feeling is just too much to handle right now. I just want to be rid of it; nine years on these meds is plenty. Most doctors don't grasp the issue because they claim antidepressants aren't addictive. Isn't that what GSK says? Hmm.

Well, here it is—I found it. Ideally, you'd be looking at somewhere between 2,000 and 4,000 mg of EPA daily. EPA is a specific type of Omega-3. Just grab some high-dose fish oil capsules and check the label to see how much EPA is actually in there...

I should point out that this dosage is somewhat higher than the standard recommended daily amount, so you are essentially taking this at your own risk; however, given the positive effects—specifically regarding those "brain zaps" that so many people report experiencing at this dosage—I believe it is worth a shot.

For me, the physical withdrawal was absolute hell, though mentally, I wasn't even remotely addicted. In fact, it didn't even cross my mind to start taking those pills again, not even while I was lying on the floor dealing with muscle spasms, shaking, and vomiting. Considering I was on a massive dose myself—Effexor, specifically—I suspect your tapering process might actually go a bit smoother than mine did.
fadedbear92 fadedbear92 Veteran
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joined Dec 2008
#4746 ·
Steven Martin13 said:Hey there, I don't find myself popping into this thread very often.

I’ve been struggling with panic attacks and general anxiety.

My psychiatrist originally put me on Clonazepam, but after a while, it started causing memory gaps—not to mention making me feel incredibly sedated and just plain confused. I tried scaling back the dosage, but honestly, it was the same story, so I had to stop altogether. Then I gave Normabest a shot, but that just triggered intense restlessness—like, I couldn't even sit still—and after using it for a few days, the panic attacks actually started coming back.

It’s been about six months since I last took Ativan, and I’m considering trying it again. My doctor is still pushing the Clonazepam, but there is absolutely no way I am putting that stuff in my mouth ever again. 🙂
The logic they use is that it builds dependency more slowly, even though I was able to quit Ativan the first time around without any real issues.
It’s actually been seven years since I last touched any of those.

Look, I’m not looking for some pill that helps me escape reality or anything like that; I just need something occasionally to take the edge off those fears before they escalate into full-blown panic attacks after a few days.

I’ve been on Zoloft for two and a half months now. It’s helped quite a bit, really, but I still get these clusters of two or three terrible days every so often, and I just want to minimize that suffering.

So, my questions are:

- Has anyone else had bad experiences? Because when I read through the warning labels—mentioning things like hallucinations or psychotic reactions—it honestly chilled me to the bone.

- Is there any other decent anxiolytic out there besides Ativan (Xanax)?

Today, the group of anxiolytics includes:
benzodiazepines (Valium, oxazepam, medazepam, bromazepam, alprazolam, lorazepam)

carbamates (meprobamate)

azaspironediones (buspirone)

http://www.webmd.com/anxiety-medications-info
Raymond Gomez2 Raymond Gomez2 Member
14 messages
joined Oct 2013
#4747 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:I went through the process of tapering off a massive dose of Effexor—which is notorious for its revolting withdrawal symptoms, including those very "brain zaps" you mentioned—and somehow, I made it out the other side. My approach was to gradually reduce the dosage, though I won't lie, it was an incredibly unpleasant experience. In fact, the "electrical" sensations became secondary to the other physical symptoms I had to endure. But, the trade-off is that I am currently entirely medication-free, and once those symptoms finally subsided, they stayed gone. Taking a full year to do it is a sensible strategy, especially if your symptoms are as intense as yours sound.

One thing many people in our situation consider a "miracle cure" for those brain zaps is taking high doses of Omega-3 fatty acids. I discovered this relatively late in my journey (and it was a bit difficult to source quality supplements since I don't eat animal products), so I can't say for certain if they are truly miraculous, but I would strongly suggest you look into it. Many people find it remarkably effective at mitigating those specific issues. If you decide to go that route, I might be able to help you look up which dosages tend to be most effective, though I don't have the specific numbers memorized right now...

As for psychiatrists, you hit the nail on the head—most of them seem to have absolutely no concept of the physical dependency these psychotropic drugs create (or perhaps they simply choose to ignore the reality of it, though I couldn't say which...).

Sorry, I trimmed your post down a bit... I'm also on Effexor. Since you clearly know your stuff, I was wondering: do you think taking those omega-3s alongside antidepressants is a good move? Specifically, could it help mitigate all those nasty withdrawal side effects later on? You mentioned an EPA omega; could you recommend a specific brand or product? I currently take one daily from Natural Wealtha, but I'm guessing that isn't quite the same thing... I'm actually considering bumping up my dose.
One more thing—did Effexor ever cause your pupils to dilate significantly? I've only been on it for two weeks, so I'm wondering if this will eventually settle down...
Steven Martin13 Steven Martin13 Member
27 messages
joined Jan 2013
#4748 ·
Raymond Gomez2 said:Sorry, I trimmed your post down a bit... I'm also on Effexor. Since you clearly know your stuff, I was wondering: do you think taking those omega-3s alongside antidepressants is a good move? Specifically, could it help mitigate all those nasty withdrawal side effects later on? You mentioned an EPA omega; could you recommend a specific brand or product? I currently take one daily from Natural Wealtha, but I'm guessing that isn't quite the same thing... I'm actually considering bumping up my dose.
One more thing—did Effexor ever cause your pupils to dilate significantly? I've only been on it for two weeks, so I'm wondering if this will eventually settle down...

Withdrawal symptoms tend to pop up after you stop taking a lot of different antidepressants—including Zoloft, at least in my experience. Aside from being physically painful, I don't think there's any greater danger. For me, they lasted a few months simply because I didn't know about forums or anywhere else to look for info back then. Eventually, it just passed on its own. The thing is, these symptoms don't show up while you're still on the medication, and honestly, they don't happen to everyone.

As for those dilated pupils you mentioned—it might be the antidepressant, or it might not. Generally speaking, most side effects tend to taper off once your body gets used to the chemistry. The most important thing is just to hang in there through the beginning, because—and this isn't a rule, mind you—it can be pretty uncomfortable sometimes.
David Barrett6 David Barrett6 Member
10 messages
joined Aug 2011
#4749 ·
I’ve been catching up on the last few pages here, and honestly, I can’t believe what I’m reading.

Does anyone know if there’s any actual accountability for the side effects or long-term issues caused by certain meds—especially when they're prescribed incorrectly?

I went through a brutal stretch myself; losing my mother, then my father... it just felt like one thing after another. A new crisis every single year.
I understood that grief is just part of life and something I had to process on my own.

Not trying to preach here, but I really think we shouldn't take these prescriptions quite so lightly.
shadowfox75 shadowfox75 Active Member
106 messages
joined Oct 2006
#4750 ·
Steven Martin13 said:Withdrawal symptoms tend to pop up after you stop taking a lot of different antidepressants—including Zoloft, at least in my experience. Aside from being physically painful, I don't think there's any greater danger. For me, they lasted a few months simply because I didn't know about forums or anywhere else to look for info back then. Eventually, it just passed on its own. The thing is, these symptoms don't show up while you're still on the medication, and honestly, they don't happen to everyone.

As for those dilated pupils you mentioned—it might be the antidepressant, or it might not. Generally speaking, most side effects tend to taper off once your body gets used to the chemistry. The most important thing is just to hang in there through the beginning, because—and this isn't a rule, mind you—it can be pretty uncomfortable sometimes.

Man, props to you for powering through that. How did you manage it? Personally, I feel like I wouldn't be able to handle it; I simply don't have the time or the luxury of staying shut in at home waiting for it to pass. Between work and everything else, life goes on. If you have a job, you understand exactly what I mean.
shadowfox75 shadowfox75 Active Member
106 messages
joined Oct 2006
#4751 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:Well, here it is—I found it. Ideally, you'd be looking at somewhere between 2,000 and 4,000 mg of EPA daily. EPA is a specific type of Omega-3. Just grab some high-dose fish oil capsules and check the label to see how much EPA is actually in there...

I should point out that this dosage is somewhat higher than the standard recommended daily amount, so you are essentially taking this at your own risk; however, given the positive effects—specifically regarding those "brain zaps" that so many people report experiencing at this dosage—I believe it is worth a shot.

For me, the physical withdrawal was absolute hell, though mentally, I wasn't even remotely addicted. In fact, it didn't even cross my mind to start taking those pills again, not even while I was lying on the floor dealing with muscle spasms, shaking, and vomiting. Considering I was on a massive dose myself—Effexor, specifically—I suspect your tapering process might actually go a bit smoother than mine did.


I've been doing some digging online regarding those specific dosages. It’s a bit confusing when you look at the labels; for instance, one product might list only 180mg of EPA per capsule, even though the total Omega-3 fatty acid content is listed at 1,000mg. I noticed this discrepancy with brands like Solgar.
Each serving of this fish oil concentrate provides 1,000 mg of EPA.
Each serving provides 180 mg of EPA and 120 mg of DHA.
It seems unreasonable that I would need to consume ten to fifteen capsules just to reach the levels you mentioned. I would end up looking like a shark if I kept that up. 🤣....
I can't even begin to imagine the hell you've been through. It sounds truly devastating.
I suspect I won't experience anything less than that. I am genuinely dreading those sudden spikes. Even now, I find myself worrying about how it’s all going to play out. To be honest, I've had enough of this after nine years. Dealing with Paxil and their constant claims that it "doesn't cause dependency" or that these aren't side effects feels exhausting. Currently, I feel alright, though I have been riding these small ups and downs for about two years now.🙂
Steven Martin13 Steven Martin13 Member
27 messages
joined Jan 2013
#4752 ·
shadowfox75 said:Man, props to you for powering through that. How did you manage it? Personally, I feel like I wouldn't be able to handle it; I simply don't have the time or the luxury of staying shut in at home waiting for it to pass. Between work and everything else, life goes on. If you have a job, you understand exactly what I mean.

To be completely honest with you, when I first stopped taking my meds, I was incredibly young—really naive, actually. I didn't understand how any of it worked, and my psychiatrist back then didn't really walk me through the details either, so I just took whatever was handed to me.

I was on Helex for six months, three times a day, and then I just... stopped. Just quit cold turkey on the very last day of that six-month stretch.

Since I was clueless, I didn't give much thought to those side effects you get when you stop using them. For instance—and this is a bit wild—I used to think those "brain zaps," those little electric shock sensations, were just something happening to me personally, rather than a direct consequence of the medication. It wasn't until recently, while scrolling through some videos on YouTube, that I finally realized, "Oh, wait, that's actually a thing."

I never really dwelled on it because I just assumed it was part of being an adult—that it was normal. They happened in the past, they still happen occasionally now (though very rarely), but honestly, I try not to let it occupy my mind.

And yeah, I was working right through it. In fact, looking back, that was probably when I was living my most active life.
shadowfox75 shadowfox75 Active Member
106 messages
joined Oct 2006
#4753 ·
Steven Martin13 said:To be completely honest with you, when I first stopped taking my meds, I was incredibly young—really naive, actually. I didn't understand how any of it worked, and my psychiatrist back then didn't really walk me through the details either, so I just took whatever was handed to me.

I was on Helex for six months, three times a day, and then I just... stopped. Just quit cold turkey on the very last day of that six-month stretch.

Since I was clueless, I didn't give much thought to those side effects you get when you stop using them. For instance—and this is a bit wild—I used to think those "brain zaps," those little electric shock sensations, were just something happening to me personally, rather than a direct consequence of the medication. It wasn't until recently, while scrolling through some videos on YouTube, that I finally realized, "Oh, wait, that's actually a thing."

I never really dwelled on it because I just assumed it was part of being an adult—that it was normal. They happened in the past, they still happen occasionally now (though very rarely), but honestly, I try not to let it occupy my mind.

And yeah, I was working right through it. In fact, looking back, that was probably when I was living my most active life.

I respect that.👍 I am just hoping I can endure this, because the fear I'm feeling is honestly overwhelming. My biggest concern is that I might inadvertently reinforce my own symptoms through autosuggestion. I'm going to head over to YouTube now to see if I can find some helpful information.
Edward Long4 Edward Long4 Member
40 messages
joined Jul 2012
#4754 ·
shadowfox75 said:I respect that.👍 I am just hoping I can endure this, because the fear I'm feeling is honestly overwhelming. My biggest concern is that I might inadvertently reinforce my own symptoms through autosuggestion. I'm going to head over to YouTube now to see if I can find some helpful information.

Oh, come on, shadowfox75, we're all pulling for you.🙂 Just pure willpower at this point, and I really think you've got this. 🙂 🙂
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
110 messages
joined Apr 2010
#4755 ·
Raymond Gomez2 said:Sorry, I trimmed your post down a bit... I'm also on Effexor. Since you clearly know your stuff, I was wondering: do you think taking those omega-3s alongside antidepressants is a good move? Specifically, could it help mitigate all those nasty withdrawal side effects later on? You mentioned an EPA omega; could you recommend a specific brand or product? I currently take one daily from Natural Wealtha, but I'm guessing that isn't quite the same thing... I'm actually considering bumping up my dose.
One more thing—did Effexor ever cause your pupils to dilate significantly? I've only been on it for two weeks, so I'm wondering if this will eventually settle down...

Every single fish oil capsule contains both DHA and EPA. The real question isn't whether you're taking them, but how much of each you're actually getting. There is absolutely no point in buying some low-dose product and swallowing ten capsules a day just to hit a target...
Generally speaking, it is recommended to take moderate amounts of Omega-3 and Vitamin B alongside psychotropic medications, given their role in supporting nervous system function and such. As for whether "preloading" with supplements can prevent the misery of withdrawal? Honestly, I don't have an answer for that...
Regarding the pupil dilation, mine were slightly enlarged, but it didn't bother me much... It’s very possible that it might settle down after the first few weeks.

shadowfox75 said:I've been doing some digging online regarding those specific dosages. It’s a bit confusing when you look at the labels; for instance, one product might list only 180mg of EPA per capsule, even though the total Omega-3 fatty acid content is listed at 1,000mg. I noticed this discrepancy with brands like Solgar.
Each serving of this fish oil concentrate provides 1,000 mg of EPA.
Each serving provides 180 mg of EPA and 120 mg of DHA.
It seems unreasonable that I would need to consume ten to fifteen capsules just to reach the levels you mentioned. I would end up looking like a shark if I kept that up. 🤣....
I can't even begin to imagine the hell you've been through. It sounds truly devastating.
I suspect I won't experience anything less than that. I am genuinely dreading those sudden spikes. Even now, I find myself worrying about how it’s all going to play out. To be honest, I've had enough of this after nine years. Dealing with Paxil and their constant claims that it "doesn't cause dependency" or that these aren't side effects feels exhausting. Currently, I feel alright, though I have been riding these small ups and downs for about two years now.🙂

Of course the symptoms are caused by the drug. I wasn't able to miss even ONE DOSE of Velafax without the "brain zaps" hitting me within an hour or two. Tell those pharmaceutical companies to try taking these meds long-term and then tell us whether or not they're addictive.☕

As for the dosing, it's a bit tricky. In the US, people mostly use this supplement. It's likely popular because it's recommended by "The Road Back," but it really is practical—it contains 360 mg of EPA per serving. You take at least three servings of three capsules a day until the worst of it passes.
redranger2 redranger2 Active Member
248 messages
joined Aug 2008
#4756 ·
Listen, I really hope you aren't all planning on quitting your medication cold turkey, because that’s a recipe for
triggering a massive shock to your brain, which has become entirely dependent on that chemical support.
When tapering off SSRIs, you have to go slow, and frankly, that process can be quite a marathon. Once you finally reach the point where you're down to just a 1/4 dose, you should
continue taking those tiny amounts for a while—maybe every other day, then every third day—until you eventually
wean yourself off completely. Your brain simply needs enough time to relearn how to manage its own neurotransmitters without outside help.
shadowfox75 shadowfox75 Active Member
106 messages
joined Oct 2006
#4757 ·
Anthony Lopez8 said:Every single fish oil capsule contains both DHA and EPA. The real question isn't whether you're taking them, but how much of each you're actually getting. There is absolutely no point in buying some low-dose product and swallowing ten capsules a day just to hit a target...
Generally speaking, it is recommended to take moderate amounts of Omega-3 and Vitamin B alongside psychotropic medications, given their role in supporting nervous system function and such. As for whether "preloading" with supplements can prevent the misery of withdrawal? Honestly, I don't have an answer for that...
Regarding the pupil dilation, mine were slightly enlarged, but it didn't bother me much... It’s very possible that it might settle down after the first few weeks.

Of course the symptoms are caused by the drug. I wasn't able to miss even ONE DOSE of Velafax without the "brain zaps" hitting me within an hour or two. Tell those pharmaceutical companies to try taking these meds long-term and then tell us whether or not they're addictive.☕

As for the dosing, it's a bit tricky. In the US, people mostly use this supplement. It's likely popular because it's recommended by "The Road Back," but it really is practical—it contains 360 mg of EPA per serving. You take at least three servings of three capsules a day until the worst of it passes.

Thank you. Yes, I will obviously have to look for something similar in our local market if it even exists...
My only "fear" is managing the dosage on my own. I have no idea what I'm doing...
Now I am trying to figure out how to taper off this junk while staying home. Naturally, this would be in agreement with her... though I know she won't understand when I bring this up. They aren't educated on this and frankly don't care; they will just deny it. I have no choice but to handle this myself after I inform her. I need to grab a Uber and try to resolve this on my own. I'm watching a documentary on YouTube about those commands and it’s horrifying... I regret the day I took that crap...😲
Just tell me that "nobody has ever successfully quit" (hopefully 🙂)...
If anyone has more advice, please share it. I am going to need it.
shadowfox75 shadowfox75 Active Member
106 messages
joined Oct 2006
#4758 ·
redranger2 said:Listen, I really hope you aren't all planning on quitting your medication cold turkey, because that’s a recipe for
triggering a massive shock to your brain, which has become entirely dependent on that chemical support.
When tapering off SSRIs, you have to go slow, and frankly, that process can be quite a marathon. Once you finally reach the point where you're down to just a 1/4 dose, you should
continue taking those tiny amounts for a while—maybe every other day, then every third day—until you eventually
wean yourself off completely. Your brain simply needs enough time to relearn how to manage its own neurotransmitters without outside help.

Of course not. I wouldn't do anything without her support. My main concern is how to taper off a 20mg dose when I can easily split the pill into 10mg halves. I've been on that 10mg dose for about two years now. Based on what people have shared here, I'll probably just switch to taking half a pill every other day for the next two weeks and call it a day. But what happens after that?
Anthony Lopez8 Anthony Lopez8 Active Member
110 messages
joined Apr 2010
#4759 ·
Quincy:
Is there anything more fundamentally exhausting than the constant pursuit of a perfect duet? We spend our lives trying to find that one specific harmony, that singular synchronization where two distinct voices finally align, yet we often find ourselves stumbling through nothing but dissonance. Why is it that we strive so intensely for this kind of unity, only to realize that most attempts at connection are little more than noise? It makes one wonder if the struggle itself is the only thing that is actually real. As Anthony Lopez8 points out:
Listen, I truly hope you aren't all planning on quitting your medications cold turkey, because if you do, the fallout could be disastrous. Is anyone actually considering such a reckless move? To stop abruptly like that would only trigger a massive, sudden reaction in your system.
Is there anything more unsettling than witnessing a sudden neurological crisis in someone whose brain has become entirely dependent on medication? It’s a profound shock to the system, both for the individual experiencing it and for those of us watching from the sidelines. When a person's chemistry is so deeply tethered to a specific pharmaceutical regimen, any disruption—be it a missed dose or an adverse reaction—doesn't just cause discomfort; it triggers a total systemic collapse. How can we even begin to grasp the sheer volatility of a mind that has lost its chemical equilibrium?
Tapering off antidepressants is a slow, deliberate process, and it’s something that can take quite a while to navigate properly. When you finally reach that quarter-dose mark, you should continue taking it as prescribed.
It will continue like this for a little while longer—just those small amounts at first, then moving to every other day, then every third day, until eventually...
You simply refuse to stop, don't you? You fail to grasp that the brain requires a certain amount of time to establish actual control over its neurotransmitters before any meaningful progress can be made.
Of course, there is no reason to rush the process or pull away too abruptly. I neglected to mention that to Stick earlier, though it seemed like such an obvious point that it barely crossed my mind to say it out loud. However, it appears even he understands the necessity of a more measured approach.
I spent months attempting to taper off my medication. I followed a strict schedule, reducing my dosage in seven-day increments. After starting at 375 mg of Effexor, I eventually worked my way down to 18 mg, and then—as absurd as it might sound to some—all the way down to a mere 9 mg. But what happened when I finally cut that final 9 mg dose? The symptoms were nothing short of revolting. While I dealt with moderate discomfort during the tapering process itself, the moment I stopped taking that negligible amount entirely, everything fell apart. It was absolutely miserable.
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Eric Mitchell55 said:Looking at this thread, I see people way older than me who are way too young to be dealing with this many pills.
I actually started on Helixim when I was just 14—almost 15—and within a few months, I was already on Haldol and some pretty nasty meds.
Now I’m turning 19, and my daily routine includes Olandix 20, Akineton 4 mg, Haldol 4 mg, Cymbalta 60mg, and Prazosin 75mg.
The plan is that I'll probably switch from Olandix to Seroquel soon.

Anyway.

The truth is, you’re taking an incredible amount of medication; one has to wonder what the toll will be when you hit 50. Your liver is going to bear the brunt of it... perhaps it would be wise to consider tapering down slightly, though naturally, that must be done in strict coordination with your psychiatrist—maybe even exploring psychotherapy as an alternative.

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