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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5

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Kate Lewis3 Kate Lewis3 Active Member
159 messages
joined Feb 2022
#5481 ·
Noah Sanchez2 said:How should we read this? Is it good news or bad?

If you ask me, they finally realize they’re losing in Ukraine and that nobody—absolutely nobody—is actually taking their threats seriously or even feeling scared anymore.

And honestly, regarding that last part? Since Russians basically have the mindset of some neighborhood bully looking for a fight, just the fact that they aren't intimidating anyone is a massive defeat in itself.
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
325 messages
joined Jun 2022
#5482 ·
The official Russian government Twitter feed is basically trolling now, making light of the missile strikes on Ukrainian power plants and the resulting blackouts across eastern Ukraine.
What a complete disgrace of a nation.

Moscow is dearer to owls and night owls than anything else in the world, Boris Pasternak wrote back in 1944. And he hit the nail on the head. There’s always been something about the streets of the capital at night that just invites you to wander and think. Here is Moscow throughout the 40s, 50s, 60s, and 70s...
https://twitter.com/Russia/status/15...V_q84smtET7EpA
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Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
325 messages
joined Jun 2022
#5483 ·
Girkin is sharing a post from the Telegram account of Aleksandar Hodakovski, a military commander within the self-proclaimed Donetsk People's Republic and one of the commanders of the Vostok brigade. From May 16 to June 16, 2014, he served as the Minister of State Security for the DNR.

(machine translation)
Vladlen Tatarsky, who operated under the alias of a Wagner Group editor.
Some self-proclaimed expert over on the online news feeds is out there acting like a genius again, claiming that without body armor, everything falls apart.
A helmet and an AK-47—honestly, I couldn't care less about those details—just get the mobilization started already.

So, what’s the next move? Who exactly are you planning to hand them over to? I'm already running on a thinner crew than I was before.
I would love to, but I find myself staring down one major hurdle.
It isn't really about that; it’s more about the frustrating reality that I’ve spent hours on end searching without finding a single thing.
The enemy positions they’re using to target us—
Yesterday, it was easily two or three hundred. I can’t manage it now, though, because there simply isn't any left.
I simply don't have the resources for artillery reconnaissance. It’s just not happening.
Their electronic warfare capabilities are simply making it impossible for us to operate.
If I could suddenly take flight, I’d find that having the ability wouldn't actually be enough to satisfy me.
I'm just wondering if I actually have the range to cover them, or if my bandwidth simply isn't there.
I can't quite wrap my head around the math on them, and honestly, I don't have the patience to deal with the fallout once things hit the processing stage.
The formation of combat units before things truly hit the fan is a process that rarely goes smoothly, especially when you consider how much of it relies on sheer luck rather than any actual strategic foresight. You see these groups attempting to organize themselves, trying to find some semblance of order amidst the chaos, but it often feels like they're just rearranging deck chairs on a sinking ship. It’s a predictable cycle where everyone waits for the inevitable impact while pretending their little tactical adjustments will somehow change the fundamental outcome of the engagement.
If you're looking to get ahead of the curve and plan your next move, you really need to look at the scheduling for the offensive; knowing exactly when the peak activity hits and when the windows of opportunity actually open is everything.
Meta—it’s all coming down to the exact same reasons. I wonder how this is going to play out for me.
Is there any actual ground support being sent to help out over here? I'm talking about boots on the ground—real access.
It really has to be an all-encompassing endeavor, and that process is...
It’s a complex situation that demands a fundamental shift in how we approach our thinking.

The situation on the ground continues to evolve with that predictable, heavy sense of inevitability we’ve come to expect from this conflict. Looking at the current trajectory, it’s clear that the tactical shifts being made aren't just minor adjustments; they represent a fundamental change in how the theater is being managed. There’s a certain exhaustion that sets in when you watch these patterns repeat—the same strategic hesitations followed by sudden, grinding movements that seem to achieve very little in terms of a decisive breakthrough. We see the same old arguments resurfacing, where people try to find logic in what often feels like pure attrition. It's a slow, draining process that tests the patience of everyone involved, though "patience" might be too generous a word for the sheer weariness currently defining the front lines. The reality remains as grim and unyielding as ever, and no amount of optimistic forecasting seems to alter the underlying gravity of the situation. We are simply watching the gears turn in a machine that shows no sign of slowing down.
Arthur Watson4 Arthur Watson4 Active Member
135 messages
joined Feb 2022
#5484 ·
Haha, alright then.

https://twitter.com/mexic0la_/status...93115541344257
Timothy Williams5 Timothy Williams5 Regular
325 messages
joined Jun 2022
#5485 ·
Following those terrorist strikes on the power plants in Chicago, which essentially plunged the entire city into total darkness, Russia launched S-300 missiles directly at residential apartment complexes. It’s a calculated move designed to trigger a massive humanitarian crisis and spread terror among the civilian population.
https://twitter.com/maria_avdv/statu...0k2bYUTK-6f1mg

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electricstag9 electricstag9 Active Member
62 messages
joined Feb 2020
#5486 ·
Gregory Ramos3 said:Whoa, looks like a few people over in Russia are finally starting to realize what a massive mess they've gotten themselves into:

https://mobile.twitter.com/JuliaDavi...70513909022720

You really gotta watch this (or just skip to the end), because man, he absolutely nailed it with that last response 🙏 🙏

The place is still crawling with hawks—even the media hosts. These politicians are still blindly following Putin, ready to drag this war out for ten years if that's what Putko demands. But this young political analyst? He’s actually speaking sense. And Boris Nadeždin had the guts to throw the cold, hard truth right in their faces. My advice to him: stay away from windows for a while. I don't personally know who Boris Nadeždin is, but he almost certainly didn't support this entire invasion mess. A quick search shows he's a scientist and a former deputy, and he even served as an assistant to Boris Nemcov (who was assassinated).
Anthony Taylor393 Anthony Taylor393 Member
38 messages
joined May 2016
#5487 ·
Looks like Putin's starting to throw chemical weapons into the mix too. Better watch your back, Putin. 🙏😁
Kate Lewis3 Kate Lewis3 Active Member
159 messages
joined Feb 2022
#5488 ·
Anthony Taylor393 said:Looks like Putin's starting to throw chemical weapons into the mix too. Better watch your back, Putin. 🙏😁

Honestly, Kadyrov’s crew are basically just cannon fodder used for making flashy TikTok videos. I really doubt they pose any actual threat to Vladimir Putin.
Timothy Nelson5 Timothy Nelson5 Active Member
232 messages
joined Oct 2018
#5489 ·
electricstag9 said:The place is still crawling with hawks—even the media hosts. These politicians are still blindly following Putin, ready to drag this war out for ten years if that's what Putko demands. But this young political analyst? He’s actually speaking sense. And Boris Nadeždin had the guts to throw the cold, hard truth right in their faces. My advice to him: stay away from windows for a while. I don't personally know who Boris Nadeždin is, but he almost certainly didn't support this entire invasion mess. A quick search shows he's a scientist and a former deputy, and he even served as an assistant to Boris Nemcov (who was assassinated).

The crew is still stuck in deep denial, except for these two...

They really need to see the sanctions kick in, the backlash from wounded veterans and grieving families, and then just the average people finally facing the reality that Russians and Russia have become global pariahs...

Once someone in this conversation can actually point to hundreds of thousands of people protesting in the streets, maybe then the tone of this discussion will change...
Bryan Jackson12 Bryan Jackson12 Newcomer
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joined Dec 2013
#5490 ·
It was so naive to think the descendants of Kozak would just drop their weapons and let you occupy them in two weeks. That was an all-in gamble, and he lost big time. Now he’s stuck in a mess, especially since NATO is backing them with everything—full logistics, operations, intel, strategic advice, and top-tier generals, not to mention the endless stream of weapons and cash.

Putin is honestly making some monumental mistakes.
Joshua Myers432 Joshua Myers432 Regular
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joined Feb 2011
#5491 ·
Nancy Gomez26 said:At this stage of the conflict, such a move is foolish. It isn't their first blunder, nor will it be the most catastrophic one Russia has committed thus far. However, it serves as a clear indicator of how thin their lines actually are on the ground—they resort to these "measures" precisely because they are weak.
On the flip side, it has become obvious to them that the dream of occupying Ukraine is dead. Previously, they preserved the infrastructure, perhaps hoping that once they seized the state, they wouldn't have to rebuild everything from scratch. Now that those delusions of conquering Ukraine have finally crumbled, their mindset has shifted toward simple destruction—wrecking whatever they can reach.
Even the most die-hard pro-Russian residents in Ukraine will soon see the occupier for what they truly are. They will come to understand exactly why these invaders must be driven out of the country at any cost.
And let's not forget, they have larger Russian cities nearby if they decide to keep playing this game. Ultimately, this clumsy maneuver likely stems from total impotence; it's the act of someone unable to do anything concrete to halt the advance of the liberating forces.

It's clear they've given up on taking over Ukraine, even that eastern portion. Now, they're just looking to systematically flatten the entire infrastructure and industrial base, assuming they even have enough left to pull it off. Honestly, we already know they have 😁
fadedjackal8 fadedjackal8 Member
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#5492 ·
Joshua Myers432 said:It's clear they've given up on taking over Ukraine, even that eastern portion. Now, they're just looking to systematically flatten the entire infrastructure and industrial base, assuming they even have enough left to pull it off. Honestly, we already know they have 😁

I'd say it's fair to call it the Ukrainians who forced their hand on backing off.

It's good to see the Ukrainians actually have some tools now to push back against those attempts to wipe out the infrastructure. And man, they can hit targets *really* 😁precisely.
steelheron25 steelheron25 Active Member
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joined Mar 2022
#5493 ·
Bryan Jackson12 said:It was so naive to think the descendants of Kozak would just drop their weapons and let you occupy them in two weeks. That was an all-in gamble, and he lost big time. Now he’s stuck in a mess, especially since NATO is backing them with everything—full logistics, operations, intel, strategic advice, and top-tier generals, not to mention the endless stream of weapons and cash.

Putin is honestly making some monumental mistakes.

Heh, who thought so? Pretty much everyone did, or at least the vast majority.

Had you even revisited the topics of Russia and Ukraine before February 24th? If you go back and leaf through those old threads—better yet, look at what was being said in 2014 and the years following—you'll see a prevailing trend of mocking Ukraine and its military capabilities, especially during those battles for the Donetsk airport and the months that followed. There was this general consensus that Ukraine was essentially a failed state; that narrative was actually spearheaded by a certain moderator we have here today, and anyone who wandered into those discussions would find that people were suggesting the Ukrainians would be better off committing collective suicide given how pathetic they supposedly were.
Then, if you jump forward to the posts from the first few days of the invasion, you'll see people leaving comments predicting that nothing more than a local National Guard unit could put up any real resistance. Even that same moderator felt the need to rush and change the thread title because the Russians had already pushed into Kharkiv.

That fart from the Kremlin and his sycophants are still mentally stuck in 2014, back when they easily seized Crimea from an unorganized and confused Ukraine, only to turn them into punchlines in the Donbas, constantly ridiculing them as if they couldn't handle a small group of miners. That's exactly why they convinced themselves that Ukraine would simply collapse. Clearly, they slept right through the massive shifts happening within Ukraine itself, and indeed, within the world at large.
Terry Green3 Terry Green3 Active Member
149 messages
joined Jun 2022
#5494 ·
The Russians are claiming they picked up some high-ranking intelligence official over in Kharkiv. Did someone tip them off about this whole operation? Honestly, we might have seen an even bigger breakthrough and more territory reclaimed if it weren't for the traitors among us.
Christian Torres3 Christian Torres3 Regular
604 messages
joined Sep 2014
#5495 ·
steelheron25 said:Heh, who thought so? Pretty much everyone did, or at least the vast majority.

Had you even revisited the topics of Russia and Ukraine before February 24th? If you go back and leaf through those old threads—better yet, look at what was being said in 2014 and the years following—you'll see a prevailing trend of mocking Ukraine and its military capabilities, especially during those battles for the Donetsk airport and the months that followed. There was this general consensus that Ukraine was essentially a failed state; that narrative was actually spearheaded by a certain moderator we have here today, and anyone who wandered into those discussions would find that people were suggesting the Ukrainians would be better off committing collective suicide given how pathetic they supposedly were.
Then, if you jump forward to the posts from the first few days of the invasion, you'll see people leaving comments predicting that nothing more than a local National Guard unit could put up any real resistance. Even that same moderator felt the need to rush and change the thread title because the Russians had already pushed into Kharkiv.

That fart from the Kremlin and his sycophants are still mentally stuck in 2014, back when they easily seized Crimea from an unorganized and confused Ukraine, only to turn them into punchlines in the Donbas, constantly ridiculing them as if they couldn't handle a small group of miners. That's exactly why they convinced themselves that Ukraine would simply collapse. Clearly, they slept right through the massive shifts happening within Ukraine itself, and indeed, within the world at large.

To be honest, a few Russian soldiers did make it into Kharkiv, but there's hardly any mention of it anywhere else.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
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joined Jan 2021
#5496 ·
It would’ve been nice to see some actual critics stepping up inside Russia—you know, within the military or the government circles.
Russia lost its leverage the second they invaded.
What a massive mistake.
steelheron25 steelheron25 Active Member
61 messages
joined Mar 2022
#5497 ·
Christian Torres3 said:To be honest, a few Russian soldiers did make it into Kharkiv, but there's hardly any mention of it anywhere else.

Given how close they were to the border, was it really such a shock that a few units managed to slip into the city limits? There were certainly street battles during those first couple of days, but let’s be honest—they never held any meaningful control over the place, not even remotely.
The real issue here is this rush to report that the Russians had captured Kharkiv based on nothing more than a handful of grainy photos posted online, all happening in those frantic opening hours of the invasion while much of the EU was still essentially sitting on the fence, trying to figure out which way the wind was blowing before deciding where to stand.
Thomas Nelson25 Thomas Nelson25 Regular
582 messages
joined Jan 2021
#5498 ·
steelheron25 said:Given how close they were to the border, was it really such a shock that a few units managed to slip into the city limits? There were certainly street battles during those first couple of days, but let’s be honest—they never held any meaningful control over the place, not even remotely.
The real issue here is this rush to report that the Russians had captured Kharkiv based on nothing more than a handful of grainy photos posted online, all happening in those frantic opening hours of the invasion while much of the EU was still essentially sitting on the fence, trying to figure out which way the wind was blowing before deciding where to stand.

That was just the Javelin phase of the war.
gentlestag15 gentlestag15 Regular
280 messages
joined May 2024
#5499 ·
steelheron25 said:Heh, who thought so? Pretty much everyone did, or at least the vast majority.

Had you even revisited the topics of Russia and Ukraine before February 24th? If you go back and leaf through those old threads—better yet, look at what was being said in 2014 and the years following—you'll see a prevailing trend of mocking Ukraine and its military capabilities, especially during those battles for the Donetsk airport and the months that followed. There was this general consensus that Ukraine was essentially a failed state; that narrative was actually spearheaded by a certain moderator we have here today, and anyone who wandered into those discussions would find that people were suggesting the Ukrainians would be better off committing collective suicide given how pathetic they supposedly were.
Then, if you jump forward to the posts from the first few days of the invasion, you'll see people leaving comments predicting that nothing more than a local National Guard unit could put up any real resistance. Even that same moderator felt the need to rush and change the thread title because the Russians had already pushed into Kharkiv.

That fart from the Kremlin and his sycophants are still mentally stuck in 2014, back when they easily seized Crimea from an unorganized and confused Ukraine, only to turn them into punchlines in the Donbas, constantly ridiculing them as if they couldn't handle a small group of miners. That's exactly why they convinced themselves that Ukraine would simply collapse. Clearly, they slept right through the massive shifts happening within Ukraine itself, and indeed, within the world at large.

I actually got slapped with a one-day ban back then just because I called out the people posting those fake headlines claiming the Russians had already taken Kyiv and Kharkiv.😁
Carol Johnson21 Carol Johnson21 Active Member
73 messages
joined May 2023
#5500 ·
It’s been a while since I’ve checked in here, and honestly, I barely recognized this place once I started seeing all these pro-Russian usernames popping up. 😬
Hope everyone is doing well!

I have a question for the group. I noticed that on CNN, whenever there's even a tiny bit of news about Ukrainian progress, they immediately bring on some military analyst to warn us about the lines in the Donbas and the potential for a Russian breakthrough. What exactly is going on over there?

Glory to Ukraine!

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