Posts by James Newman4

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:James Newman4
So, I guess the real question we’re staring down here is whether society is actually heading toward some kind of massive return to nature, or if we're all just sliding headfirst into a future of eating straight-up laboratory food. It's a weird one, honestly. Maybe we'll go back to basics, or maybe we'll just be chewing on science experiments forever. Who knows?

So, what are we even talking about here? Like, are we leaning towards this whole organic food thing where everything is grown specifically to be packed with every single vitamin and mineral imaginable, or are we just going straight for those "meal replacement" shakes? I don't know, maybe it's both, or maybe it's neither, I guess. It feels like one of those endless debates where everyone thinks they've figured out the ultimate hack, but honestly, I'm just sitting here wondering if anyone actually knows which way is better.

I mean, honestly, when you start cranking out food in some sterile laboratory setting, you’re basically killing off any real need for actual, natural food—you know, the stuff that actually grows in dirt, gets watered, and sits out under the Sun. It feels kind of weird to me, I guess, because we aren't exactly astronauts living on some space station or anything; we're still just people living here on Earth. 😉

I mean, honestly, this whole "return to nature" thing people always talk about is basically impossible in the modern world, right? Like, most of us are stuck living in massive cities instead of out in the middle of nowhere, so by default, we’re just disconnected from that whole vibe anyway. I guess you could try, but when you're surrounded by concrete and skyscrapers, it's kind of hard to actually live that way. I mean, I guess if you really think about it, there's just something about that whole return to nature vibe that hits different, you know? Like, everything feels so artificial lately, and maybe I'm just overthinking things, but it feels like we're all just drifting away from what's actually good for us. It’s kind of wild how much we rely on stuff that isn't even real, but hey, that's just how things are going, I suppose. I mean, real food is just becoming harder and harder to find these days, I guess. Everything is shrinking, and because everyone is constantly chasing that massive paycheck or just trying to squeeze out every last cent of profit, the people actually making the stuff start getting desperate. They end up trying to "cut corners" or mess with the ingredients just to make things work, and honestly, I’ve been around enough to see it happen firsthand—I've actually seen it myself a few times, so yeah, it's definitely a thing. 😢 😁

I mean, look, Herbalife is basically all plant-based and totally natural, but I guess since everything actually gets tested and processed in a lab, some people just can't wrap their heads around that, you know? If they aren't convinced by the science behind it, then whatever, let them stay skeptical. It’s their loss, I suppose. I mean, I guess you could call them "safe," if that's what you're getting at, but honestly, I don't know. It feels like one of those things where everyone just assumes everything is fine without actually looking at the fine print or whatever, you know? Maybe they are, maybe they aren't, but I'm not exactly jumping for joy about it. Just my two cents, I guess. So, you really think that fruit and veggies you're picking up at the local farmers market are actually "safe" and organic... I mean, maybe, I guess, but honestly? It's kind of a stretch if you really stop to think about it. Like, just because some guy in a flannel shirt says it's grown without chemicals doesn't necessarily mean it's the real deal, you know? It’s all very "return to nature" vibes, which sounds great and everything, but who's actually checking the soil quality or making sure they aren't using some weird pesticides just to keep the bugs off? I don't know, maybe I'm being too cynical, but I feel like we just take it on faith sometimes, and in this day and age, that feels a little risky, don't you think? 😉 😁

I mean, I guess the real issue with society these days is just how much we all sit around doing absolutely nothing, you know? It’s like everyone is stuck in this sedentary loop, and if you actually wanted to get all those essential nutrients your body needs through food alone, you’d have to cram in a massive amount of calories—which, obviously, isn't exactly what anyone's aiming for. That’s basically the trap of a standard diet, I suppose. 🙂

I mean, if you just take a second to look at the nutrient density in fruits and veggies today compared to what we were getting like 10 or 20 years ago, everything might start making a whole lot more sense, I guess.

I was just scrolling through this PDF—it’s basically a deep dive into some research data spanning from 1986 all the way to 2002—and honestly, I guess it’s worth a look if you actually care about the science behind what people are putting in their bodies. It's one of those dense academic papers looking at nutritional trends and stuff over the years, and while it might seem like a total snooze fest at first glance, there’s some interesting stuff in there regarding how dietary habits have shifted in America over that sixteen-year stretch. I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I feel like people nowadays just swallow whatever marketing tells them to without checking if there's any actual substance behind it, you know? Anyway, if you're into reading old-school studies and digging through the weeds of nutritional history, this might be right up your alley, though I probably wouldn't recommend it if you're looking for something quick or easy to digest. Just a heads up.

I mean, honestly... we’re living on a planet that we basically trashed ourselves, you know? It's kind of wild when you actually sit down and think about it, I guess. We just keep doing it, over and over, and now we're stuck dealing with the mess we made. 😢

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Amanda Lee42 said:Honestly, I don't think they're gonna be able to sell me on this stuff, because I already gave it a shot like ten years ago and, well, it's pretty hard to get myself motivated enough to actually drink that powdery miracle, you know? So for me, it’s basically just throwing money down the drain since I can never seem to stay consistent with it, I guess.
I mean, honestly, his constant self-promotion doesn't even bother me that much, I guess. To be fair, some of his posts are actually kind of interesting to read if you just sit back and dive into them.

When you start talking about that "powdered miracle" stuff, it honestly sounds exactly like the marketing fluff they put in those brochures. 😁

I mean, I honestly think consistency is probably the single most important virtue a person can have. Life just kind of works that way—it gives back exactly what you put into it, you know? Like that old saying goes, you really are what you eat, and how you treat your body basically dictates how you’re going to exit this world. It sounds easy enough to stay consistent when you actually believe in what you're doing, but let's be real, the people around you usually act like total skeptics or just bring all this negative energy that makes you start doubting yourself, too. I guess we're constantly surrounded by enough facts and evidence in our daily lives to see that staying on track—especially when it comes to your health—is actually super beneficial, even if it feels like an uphill battle sometimes.

I guess the human brain is just wired to hunt for shortcuts, you know? We’re always looking for that one easy way to get what we want without actually doing the heavy lifting, but honestly, sometimes having the right info at the right time is what actually shows you that the long way is actually the fastest route. It’s kind of funny how that works. And if you feel like you're stuck in a rut or can't see the big picture, maybe you just need to stand on your tiptoes for a second to get a better view, or just head somewhere totally new where you've never been before. If your current habits are basically just keeping you spinning your wheels, then yeah, maybe try changing them up—it might actually move the needle. Everything is pretty straightforward when you think about it; opportunities are everywhere if you look, so it really just comes down to whether we actually decide to grab them or not. 😉

I think I mentioned some recipes in another thread about how that "powdery miracle" can actually taste pretty damn good, you know? And honestly, when you stop to think about those disgusting syrups or that nasty fish oil we were all forced to choke down as kids just to stay healthy, it’s not even that hard to get on board with something that actually tastes decent. 🙂

So, like, ten years ago, most people didn't really have a clue what was actually going on with all this stuff, I guess. And honestly, Herbalife basically revamped their whole thing with this new "Shape Works" program—it’s all about protein strength or whatever—because apparently, they figured out that protein is the absolute key to actually feeling full, so now the whole vibe is just totally different. I mean, I hear it all the time from people who used to be into Herbalife back in the day, and they’re always telling me how much it's changed, so it's definitely a whole different ballgame now. 👍

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:So, you really think I'm gonna try to sell her Herbalife? I mean, maybe, I guess... but honestly, why would I even bother with that whole scene? It just seems like such a massive headache, you know? I don't know.
Look, man, I think you need to try and wrap your head around why everyone on this board can't stand you... it's honestly because everything you say always feels like some shady setup to push Herbalife, and it's like you can't even have a normal conversation without pivoting back to them and trying to sell us something... you get it, right? Like, you aren't even capable of talking about anything else for more than five minutes without drifting toward an MLM pitch... don't you realize that by doing that, you're basically just becoming the worst possible anti-Herbalife advertisement out there?

Look, if I invite someone to a presentation, I’m not exactly out there trying to force a sale on them or anything, I guess. It’s more like... I don't know, it's just a way to show people what's actually happening, you know? It's about letting everyone see the results for themselves and getting them convinced about the different effects, maybe. It's not a pitch, it's just sharing the facts so they can wrap their heads around it. cellular nutrition I mean, you always get way more people showing up to those kinds of seminars who have actually walked the walk and seen the results firsthand, right? And since everyone’s situation is totally different, there’s always a chance to just grab someone aside—someone who dealt with the exact same struggles you're facing—and just talk. You can usually tell pretty quickly through a real conversation whether what the speaker is saying is legit or just total nonsense. But honestly, seeing people cling to these massive prejudices without even trying to look at the facts really gets under my skin. I just don't get why people stay so superficial, constantly whining while blindly trusting whatever some doctor says, even when they could easily go out and verify everything for themselves if they actually bothered... I guess maybe they're just lazy? 😕 )

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:Look, I get it, I really do—the product itself seems solid enough, but I just can't bring myself to deal with the whole Multi-level marketing headache. It’s just not my thing, you know? I’d much rather just head down to Target or Walmart and grab some meal replacement shakes off the shelf without all the extra drama. And honestly, I'm not the only one who feels this way either; I've heard plenty of other people say the exact same thing.
I mean, honestly, that kind of approach is exactly what drives people away from Multi-level marketing in the first place, I guess.

Anthony Rodriguez58, I honestly thought you were actually being reasonable based on some of the stuff you’ve said before, but then you just go and totally blow it with a statement like this... 😁
I mean, honestly, as long as there’s actually an open and honest conversation happening, I guess people can always change their minds. Maybe. 😉

I feel like you're just totally missing the point about how "cellular nutrition" actually hits your system, and honestly, talking in circles isn't going to do anyone any good—you've gotta actually start consuming the stuff to see what I mean. I know, I know, I probably sound like a total jerk saying this, but you aren't going to find anything even remotely close to this quality just wandering the aisles of a local grocery store. It’s not even just about the individual products themselves, though; it’s more about these complete, holistic programs that were basically engineered in top-tier scientific circles and they REALLY work. 😉
Look, if I’m looking out for my own best interests, I don't really care where the stuff comes from, you know? Like, whether I'm just grabbing it off a shelf at Target or getting it through some other channel, it doesn't matter to me. As long as the thing actually works like it's supposed to, that's really all that counts, I guess.

Look, it’s not even about making sales here, which I guess you and everyone else seem to be totally missing the point on. What we’re actually trying to do is smash those tired old myths and prejudices people have about Herbalife, mostly because they're stuck on exactly what you're talking about—this whole misunderstanding of how Multi-level marketing works and how the distribution side of things actually functions.

Look, as far as I’m concerned, if people actually get the gist of what's going on after reading my posts, then I've done my job, you know? Like, they can go find ANY random Herbalife distributor out there to see for themselves if they want—it doesn't have to be me, obviously—but I guess you guys just can't seem to wrap your heads around that concept either.

Honestly, I really wish we had more people on this forum who have actually seen real results—you know, folks who actually get what they're doing instead of just talking about it. It feels like for the longest time, everyone was just whispering about Herbalife because of all those legal headaches distributors ran into back in the day, mostly thanks to that massive pharmaceutical lobby trying to protect its turf. It’s kind of ridiculous when you think about how much good this stuff can do for the body, but then again, I guess we all know exactly which big corporations lose money when people actually get healthy. Anyway, times are changing, I suppose. People are finally starting to realize what Herbalife has been preaching for the last 25 years, and I’m kind of over the whole "hush-hush" vibe. I don't want to whisper anymore; I feel like being loud and clear about it. I mean, wouldn't it be nice if someone actually stepped up and helped themselves before it was way too late?

One of those things people always bring up is water. And honestly, I think the guy who basically pioneered bottled water was actually from Herbalife. 🙂

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:It's because you only make money if you're constantly selling, which means you don't have a life or free time; you're just out there pushing products and driving everyone away.
Like, as if every single part of your personality and everything you are just boiled down to being an Herbalife distributor...
And honestly, you kind of sound brainwashed, like you're part of some weird religious cult.
Come on, for crying out loud, go post in other subforums. Write something about Movies, Religion, Love, or Sex, so I can see you actually have other opinions besides just Herbalife. 👋

I guess you don't really need to worry about my opinions on other topics because I definitely have them, but since we're strictly talking health here—and considering how nutrition is basically the root cause of like 70% of all diseases these days—I just sort of found myself getting called out to weigh in.
Then again, there's the whole thing where some people just love venting about their problems without ever actually looking at what solutions are out there, but I've realized there are plenty of smart, reasonable people without prejudices who finally found the solution they'd been searching for for ages, specifically through "cellular nutrition." 😉

I don't mean to say I'm going to change the world, but even if I manage to clear the eyes of just one person, that's a massive shift in itself, I guess.

Look, I get that my posts get under people's skin, but I've noticed people are finally starting to think for themselves instead of just reflexively saying, "Oh, they're just trying to sell me something"... I've run into so many cases where people were just trying to hustle someone for quick cash, but anyone who actually started using Herbalife and then quit usually did so because their distributor wasn't doing the most important job, which is the follow-up, or they just didn't grasp how long and how specifically you need to stick to certain programs.
I'm mostly just trying to fix those mistakes, break down those biases, and explain things as clearly as I can (though sometimes I succeed and sometimes I don't, I guess 😉).

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:PS: Just to add, on top of all that, that Kemik guy is a hundred times more annoying than you are. 😉

Come on, give me something here, 😁 👍

Amanda Lee42, I guess the scale isn't even the biggest deal here, honestly, it's more about those inches and your body fat percentage, though I keep saying this—it’s not really the fat you can actually see that messes you up, it’s the hidden stuff, you know? Like the visceral fat tucked away around your heart and all those vital organs... anyway, I think you mentioned somewhere that your husband was dealing with some health issues, what was the deal with that exactly?

ps: we've got this pretty cool lecture on nutrition coming up this Tuesday, so if you're feeling like checking it out, just shoot me a DM. It's free to go, but you do have to RSVP ahead of time... 🙂

here is a slightly more detailed version of that news story:

"Public health lawyers over in California are sounding the alarm, basically saying all chip manufacturers should be forced to put a massive warning label on their packaging if their products contain chemicals that trigger tumors.

The culprit here is acrylamide, which is this substance you find in cookies, certain types of rusks, coffee, and obviously chips and french fries. It’s been around forever in stuff like plastics, dyes, and adhesives, but it was only recently realized that it's actually baked right into a ton of everyday foods.

The World Health Organization claims that acrylamide is responsible for about a third of all tumors linked to poor diet. Even back in animal studies, they found it causes thyroid, male reproductive, and breast tumors in rats. Now that testing on various popular snacks—like those famous Pringles—shows it's everywhere, I guess it might be time to maybe stop eating this stuff altogether.

They ran tests on several brands: Lay's Baked!, Lay's Stax BBQ, Lay's KC Masterpiece, Lay's Natural country Barbecue, Lay's light KC Barbecue Masterpiece, Pringles snack Stacks (pizza flavor), Pringles sweet Mesquite BBQ, Kettle Chips Lightly Salted, Kettle Chips Honey Dijon, Cape Cod Robust Russet, and Cape Cod Classic Chips. And yeah, every single one of them had that dangerous chemical in it.

Even with the risks, food companies are pushing back, asking Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger not to slap that '65' label on potato products, which would basically flag the food as carcinogenic. The governor's office should be making their final call in a few days."

Let me just jot down a few more thoughts before I crash for the night, just so you guys don't waste too much energy tomorrow stressing over absolute nonsense... 😉

It actually makes me pretty happy to see people reading my threads; I mean, maybe someone will actually pick up a tip that helps them out down the road (hopefully toward a healthier life).... 😉

steelsailor17, honestly, when people keep hitting you with the same old garbage over and over, after a while, you almost start believing that stupidity is actually possible.. 😁

The only truth here is that "soft guy" is basically doing the same line of work as me—which is probably why we sound alike—we're even on the same team (we collaborate and swap info all the time), and he’s actually the one who got me interested in this forum in the first place. At first, I was just lurking and reading, but I eventually had to jump in with comments because they kicked him out for no reason (in my opinion), so I guess I just picked up where he left off, which kind of became entertaining in its own way.. 😉 👍

As far as water goes, I don't really have any "cause and effect" connection to it other than the fact that I drink enough (like 2-3 liters a day), plus I don't sell water or hold any stocks in distribution companies like Nestlé or PepsiCo or anything like that... 😁
Regarding the question of what water is best, I can't really give you a straight answer because I don't get too worked up about it; I'll drink tap water, I'll drink Dasani, I'll drink whatever is available depending on where I am at the moment, but usually, I go for still water.

You can really see it here how most people get hung up on WHO is writing something rather than paying attention to the actual messages being sent, which are directly tied to the topic of this forum, which is HEALTH 😎

"I don't get why some people are attacking Mac Hummer now, since he's talking about water, which has nothing to do with supplements or wellness"

Just so you know, water has a massive connection to dietary supplements, regular nutrition, and it's a core part of wellness, whether you're drinking it or just splashing around in a hot tub.. 😉

If you aren't drinking enough water, then there isn't much point in taking all those supplements or getting nutrients from a standard diet, because all that stuff we ingest won't actually reach every single cell in our bodies if there's no water to carry it. That's the whole basic idea of cellular nutrition—feeding every cell in the body, not just filling up your stomach. 🙂

Let's take a step back for a second. Our bodies are made of different organs, muscles, tissues, bones, and so on. Through our veins, arteries, and lymph nodes, necessary substances are transported to the cells that make up our organs and every single inch of our bodies. Food contains what our cells need. Through two incredibly complex processes—digestion and absorption—the food we eat is broken down into molecules so it can be absorbed, stored, and used in various biosynthetic reactions, while the parts that can't be used are separated and flushed out. Unfortunately, it happens quite often that, for the reasons we talked about earlier, even if we eat regularly, it doesn't guarantee our cells are getting all the nutrients they need; in fact, we might just be overloading our bodies with useless or harmful stuff. This happens because we're missing certain foods, or because we aren't paying enough attention to what we eat, or because we're eating too much or too little, or simply because a poor diet causes poor absorption (which, very frequently, is caused by a lack of water).

So, basically, absorption happens through these tiny little things called intestinal villi—they're like these microscopic fibers lining the inside of your gut that just maximize the surface area so you can actually soak stuff up. But, you know, things like colitis, other gut issues, or just straight-up garbage diets can really tank your ability to absorb anything. When that happens, your cells aren't getting the fuel they need, which creates this massive imbalance because you're lacking high-quality nutrients, and honestly, most people don't even realize it until they actually get sick or something goes wrong. I mean, in like 70% of cases, the main reason people end up at the doctor is because of problems caused by a bad diet!

If we just gave our bodies healthy, complete, and actually correct food, a lot of these issues could probably be avoided, since the body would actually take in everything it needs (assuming we let it) to help everything run smoother. It’s kind of like a perfect machine, which is pretty much what we are, I guess.
We often end up paying the price because we just keep making these huge mistakes with how we feed ourselves, day after day.

A rational, optimal diet should basically guarantee you're getting the maximum amount of natural substances without overdoing it or running low on essential nutrients.

The whole philosophy here at HL is just about providing guidance on healthy, proper nutrition to the world, helping everyone feel a bit better!

ps: Back at HL, even 25 years ago, people were already talking about how important water and a balanced diet are—specifically that "cause and effect" link with health—which I guess is only just becoming obvious to most people now. 😉 😎

Amanda Lee42 said:I mean, I guess there’s actually some logic to it if you think about it, since chips are basically just potatoes being fried at really high temperatures anyway.
I think I read somewhere that baked potatoes aren't actually that great for you, like they develop some kind of carcinogenic compounds or whatever during the cooking process, I guess.
So, after all that, I guess I just immediately cut back on my fried potato intake, like, only letting myself have them as a side dish during birthday parties or something.

I mean, at the end of the day, we’re really just talking about all those different additives—you know, the nasty stuff—that they pack into everything just to crank up the flavor and basically make it impossible not to get hooked. It’s kind of wild how much they rely on that junk to trigger an addiction, I guess. 😢

So, basically, food products are chemically engineered just to trick people into eating way more than they actually need.
Like, if you were just eating a ton of bananas or apples or whatever fresh, unprocessed stuff, your body—using your taste buds—would eventually signal you to switch things up and try a different kind of food.
But why doesn't that happen when you're hitting up chocolate bars, baked chips, or that fast food junk they whip up at McDonald's...? I mean, why is it that the more you eat that stuff, the more you just crave it?

The whole thing is that chemical processing drives you to overeat, which leads to massive overconsumption, and honestly, it’s all just a way for companies to boost their profits by exploiting consumers.

This entire industry keeps churning out basically the same types of products (just in different packaging), and this lack of actual variety in what we eat causes terrible nutrition, which then fuels obesity and all sorts of diseases.

Even cigarette manufacturers have used chemical tweaks on tobacco to make it even more addictive.
Back in 2001, Philip Morris bought up some of the biggest names in kid-friendly snacks (including brands like Ritz and Philadelphia). That move turned Philip Morris into the second largest food company in the world, right behind Nestlé.

And the fallout from all this is pretty wild: in the USA, about 61% of the population (around 184 million people), and in Europe, about 50% (roughly 175 million people), are overweight, while 27% (that's 77 million people!) are clinically obese.

According to data from the World Health Organization, out of every 10 doctor visits, 7 of them are related to illnesses caused by poor diet!

...take that runner from Ecuador who passed away during the Boston marathon... Researchers seem to think that for most people doing recreational or competitive sports, just sipping about half a liter to a liter of fluid an hour is plenty.

Look, nobody really knows what went down there, and I find it hard to believe she was chugging more than a liter of water an hour while running a full marathon, but even if she was, I don't see any real danger in that... 😕

Drinking water during training mostly just helps you stay hydrated so you don't totally crash when things get intense.. 🙂

James Newman4 said:man, i'll probably smoke like I'm trying to make up for lost time during my one or two breaks, I guess I'll end up burning through an entire carton just at work, maybe just to compensate for all the times I can't smoke when I'm back home.🙄

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Peter Taylor63 said:Count me in! 👍
I mean, I’ve personally felt those pseudo-scientific claws of theirs digging in, if you know what I mean. 🙄 😁 😁

It's kind of funny, actually... we could probably just start our own "crew" or something, might make for some pretty interesting matchups down the road.. 😉 😁

Peter Taylor63 said:And since we're talking about physical stuff... I've actually dealt with dehydration a few times in my life. And weirdly enough, I wasn't even thirsty at the time, so I didn't think to drink anything, but I still ended up in the ER. 😲 😁 But I guess the thing is, it was during the summer and the heat was just brutal, so clearly the body's thirst mechanism isn't always such a reliable partner. It took me a few hits to realize I should probably just carry a water bottle everywhere during the summer. For the rest of the year, you don't really have to worry about it too much, but doctors have been preaching about drinking 2 liters a day for ages. Something about flushing out toxins and all those other bodily processes.

Dehydration usually kicks in way before you actually notice it—like, maybe a day before—so you really have to drink water preventively.. 🙂

The best way to tell if you're running low is just looking at your urine; if it's super yellow (like dark), then you were already dehydrated "yesterday".. 😲

ps: that's why I love Guinness, you drink black and you pee clear.. pure magic.. 😁 👍

Peter Taylor63 said:Also, not too long ago I read about this guy who supposedly died from drinking way too much water, like his brain got flooded with fluid or something; but he drank a massive amount of water... But hey, as usual, too much of anything is bad...

I honestly think that's just nonsense... Water doesn't just flood your head like some kind of dam broke.. 😁

I mean, there might be special cases with certain sick people where you have to watch out, but for regular, healthy folks, I just don't buy it (assuming you're eating normally too).. 😎

Amanda Lee42 said:Maybe read that again right before bed... he’s sipping maybe 2 liters while watching TV for like 2 or 3 hours, and I lose track during the day since I'm not with him, but looking at his phone usage, I'd guess he's hitting at least another 4 liters of sparkling water throughout the day—though I assume it's more when it gets hot out, especially since he sweats so much.

Okay, I see what you mean now, my bad (though I guess you didn't phrase that quite perfectly either) .. 😉

Since you mentioned how much sparkling water he's drinking at the start of this thread, maybe try suggesting plain still water instead? That might change things a bit .. 🙂

PS: You mentioned he's sweating a ton, so what's his weight situation like? 😉

Elizabeth Miller8 said:Dow Chemical and her crew are basically cut from the same cloth!!! Seriously, when does this arrogance ever end?!?

I mean, have you guys actually taken a second to study your own bodies, or did some lady scientist have to spoon-feed you all that info too?

If we were still living in an era where science hadn't officially proven that the Earth orbits the Sun, I'd bet my life you’d be the first ones lining up to throw anyone who disagreed onto a bonfire!

I guess... but hey, that's not written in our little school textbooks, right? My bad, I must be a complete idiot... I suppose if it's not printed in a manual, it just can't be true!🙄

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Thank God 🙂 someone finally realized what kind of "crew" I'm out here fighting against! 😁

Elizabeth Miller8, you're totally spot on. People around here will argue about the most obvious things—stuff you can see with your own eyes and connect logically—just because there isn't a formal research paper backing it up. And even when papers do exist, they aren't always easy to find online, and let's face it, not everything is easily accessible to regular folks... 😉 😎

Look, I respect scientists, I really do, but you always have to wonder who that scientist is actually working for, what their endgame is, and whether their "breakthroughs" actually work in the real world or if they actually hold up when you try to apply them... 🙂

Water and Your Body

I know it sounds almost too simple to be true, but I honestly think water is probably the single most important catalyst when you're trying to drop pounds and actually keep them off. Most people just take it for granted, I guess, but water might be the only real "magic potion" out there for maintaining weight loss. It naturally kills your appetite, keeps you hydrated, and basically helps your system process stored fat. )

Think about it—your kidneys can't really do their job if they aren't getting enough water. And when the kidneys start lagging, everything gets dumped onto the liver. Now, the liver’s whole deal is supposed to be metabolizing that stored fat into usable energy. If the liver is stuck doing the kidneys' dirty work, it isn't working at full capacity, which means all that extra fat just stays right where it is.

Plus, drinking water actually helps reduce fluid retention in your system. When you aren't getting enough water, your body basically panics, treats it like a survival threat, and starts clinging to every single drop of moisture and fat it can find.* More often than not, that hunger pang you're feeling is just a dehydrated body, not an actual hungry one, I mean.

Just give your body what it needs so it can finally get rid of that stored fat... WATER!!!

* When the body holds onto water that should be flushing out "waste," it ends up just keeping that junk inside. That waste just kind of "travels" in circles, polluting your system and increasing the risk of introducing "something" where it definitely shouldn't be... and the consequences could be anything, really.. 😢
Example: plenty of water is like a clear mountain stream, but not enough water is like a stagnant swamp filled with algae... 🙂 👍

Amanda Lee42 said:dehydration causes headaches,
which is pretty much always the case for me, I guess,
but this whole thing

well, I think it really just comes down to the individual and their lifestyle, you know? Like, my husband will chug something like two liters of water right before bed while he's just sitting there watching TV—especially with this heatwave we're having—so naturally, he’s struggling to even get out of bed in the morning because his back is killing him.

Obviously everything is different for everyone, and there are always a million different factors playing into health issues, but people tend to fixate on water because, honestly, it's probably the cheapest solution out there. 🙂
(Not to start going off about nutrition, cell regeneration... whatever else matters, etc.) 😉

ps: you really need to be sipping water steadily throughout the day instead of just slamming two liters right before bed; it's kind of like the difference between a steady stream and a flash flood, if that makes sense.. 😎

Introduction to the book "Your body cries for water" (Fereydoon Batmanghelidj, M. D. - "Your body cries for water")

"I guess one of the most obvious reasons why medicine has turned into such a massive, expensive headache is simply because researching drugs—and then actually testing how they hit a patient—has become insanely pricey. So, to keep those products moving through the system via all those aggressive commercials you see everywhere, it’s not just high-paid reps pushing them; even doctors get pulled into the mix with certain... let's call them 'incentives.' And patients? They just keep popping them because, well, the sickness doesn't go away. I mean, it’s not like they were meant to actually cure anyone! They just manage symptoms! It’s basically the perfect example of how market principles have totally taken over the medical field. But honestly, this isn't even the only shady part of the whole industry.

All this tech-driven progress in medicine has mostly been fueled by churning out useless little gadgets. And yeah, that also drives up healthcare costs. Training hospitals and research institutes are pretty much entirely dependent on funding from the corporate side of the health system. So, medical research usually ends up following whatever the big pharma CEOs and medical device manufacturers want, since they’re the ones greenlighting the funds for projects that actually make them money.

But hey, maybe we’re finally hitting a turning point here.
It turns out the human body has a ton of complex signals that show when it's lacking water—basically indicators of dehydration and thirst. It’s not just about having a dry mouth; there are so many other signs. The biggest tragedy in medical history, if you ask me, is that professionals haven't really grasped the huge variety of ways the human body cries for water. Instead, they usually just reach for chemicals and various 'treatments' to try and fix chronic dehydration. It’s a massive blunder, but also just a plain old fact!

What really stings is that most of the medical establishment is still stuck in their old ways and just ignores these new insights. This total failure to recognize the actual physical signs of dehydration is probably the main reason why healthcare is so ridiculously expensive in developed countries like the US.

Plus, I don't see any chance of things improving in the healthcare system as long as it's structured this way—it's set up poorly and mostly serves the people running the show rather than the people who actually need care. ... "

In the following pages, the author breaks down all the hurdles he ran into while trying to get the medical world to pay attention to his findings, and you can kind of guess why he didn't get much traction... I mean, who would bother buying meds if water could solve so many problems? .. 😉 😕

A similar thing happened (just not with water) with Barry Sears ("Zone Diet") when he tried to 'sell' his ideas on treating heart patients to the medical community, but they weren't interested—you can't exactly patent a lifestyle or a natural way of eating, so there was no profit in it for them. 😢

Who knows, maybe cars could run on nothing but water too, but I doubt anyone in charge would be interested in that, right? .. 😉 😁

nimbledriver81 said:The study mentioned above pretty much shuts down most of the nonsense you’ve picked up from wherever...

Yeah, well, those are the latest updates straight from American Water management !!! 😁 😁 😁

nimbledriver81 said:In case anyone actually cares—and I mean people who don't speak English—we could always put together a summary. The author of this paper went through all the relevant literature (scientific stuff, obviously) and drew some conclusions based on the findings. You know how it usually goes, right, James Newman4 from The Scoundrels...

Fine then, why don't you just write the summary yourself and post it here, and then we can all have a good time tearing it apart together.. 😉 👍

When you're looking at the actual results, maybe you should go grab a copy of "Your body cries out for water" (Fereydoon Batmanghelidj, M.D.) because that might help you wrap your head around a lot of what was brought up at the start of this thread (not that I got my info from that book or anything, though).. 🙂

"The author of this paper went through all the relevant literature (scientific stuff, obviously) and drew some conclusions based on the findings."

That's an interesting way to put it, I guess, since the guy who wrote this book is an actual doctor who treated patients using nothing but water, so he figured out the results firsthand. 😉 😁

Are you running on empty?

So, I guess the big question is, does your body cries out for water? Like, how can you even tell if you're actually dehydrated or just feeling off? You can basically run a little self-test—here’s a rundown of the symptoms, ranging from the super obvious stuff to the more intense issues:

Headaches
One of the main things water does is flush all those toxins out of your system. Since your brain is basically 75% water, even a tiny bit of dehydration can trigger a nasty headache.

Brain Fog / Fatigue
If your system is bogged down with toxins because there isn't enough water to wash them away, you're probably going to feel pretty drained while your body struggles to clean itself up.

Constipation
Water keeps things moving along by adding volume to your stool, so I mean, staying hydrated really helps keep your bathroom trips regular.

Less frequent urination / Dark urine
Your kidneys are constantly filtering waste out of your blood. It's actually kind of wild that your kidneys "recycle" about 47 gallons of water every single day. That whole process totally depends on having a steady supply of fresh water coming in. If you aren't drinking enough, you won't pee as often, the waste products get concentrated, and you end up with dark urine.

Coated tongue / Bad breath
If you aren't getting enough fluids passing through your mouth to wash away food particles, bacteria starts building up in your throat and mouth, which leaves a white film on your tongue.

Dry mouth
Saliva is what keeps your mouth moist, but when you're dehydrated, your body just doesn't produce enough of it.

When things get serious:

Muscle cramps
This usually happens because there isn't enough water in your system to allow sufficient oxygen to reach your muscles through your bloodstream.

Skin issues
If you aren't giving your skin enough water to feed it, it loses its elasticity. A quick way to check is to pinch the skin on your forearm—it should snap back to its original spot pretty fast.

Eyes
Red, irritated eyes or dark circles under and around your eyes are major red flags for severe dehydration.

And honestly, don't try to play games with water retention... the less you drink, the harder your body works to hoard whatever water it has left for later. The result? You hold onto water. Your cells will swell up with that precious reserve, leaving you feeling like you've put on "extra weight."

Ever thought about this?

So, water actually kind of kills your appetite naturally. I mean, if you aren't drinking enough, you might end up overeating because the brain is honestly pretty bad at telling the difference between being thirsty and being hungry. So, when you think you're starving, it’s super likely that your body cries out for water instead. I guess it makes sense to just chug a big glass before you eat. Most of the time, you'll probably realize that what felt like a massive hunger pang was just dehydration all along.

Some random water facts

• Like, 75% of people are chronically dehydrated.
• For about 37% of us, the thirst signal is so weak that we constantly mistake it for hunger.
• Even being slightly dehydrated can slow down your metabolism by as much as 3%.
• A single glass of water basically stopped late-night cravings for almost everyone on a diet during a study out of the University of Washington.
• Not getting enough water is pretty much the number one reason people feel wiped out during the day.
• Early research suggests that drinking 8-10 glasses of water a day could significantly help up to 80% of people dealing with back and joint pain.
• Even a tiny 2% drop in your body's water levels can mess with your short-term memory, make basic math harder, or make it tough to focus on a computer screen or a book.
• Drinking 5 glasses of water a day might lower the risk of colon cancer by 45%, breast cancer by 79%, and bladder cancer by 50%.

I mean, at any given moment, your body is basically sitting there made up of 55% to 75% water. Honestly, the only thing you actually need more of than water is oxygen, I guess.

So, if you're wondering why you need to stay on top of all this life-giving liquid, here’s the deal:

• It helps out with digesting, absorbing, and basically getting rid of the stuff you eat
• It assists in flushing waste out through your guts and kidneys
• It keeps your body temperature regulated 24/7, no breaks
• It keeps your joints and membranes lubricated so things run smooth
• Blood is pretty much your body's internal delivery service, constantly moving nutrients everywhere
• Your blood itself is about 92% water, which is wild when you think about it
• Most bodily secretions and digestive juices are almost entirely water (like, your digestive system pumps out roughly 57 ounces of saliva every single day!)

Because it handles all those heavy-duty tasks, your body usually needs somewhere between 1.5 to 2 liters of water daily just to function normally. But honestly, that number shifts depending on your build, what you eat, how active you are, and even the weather outside. Here is a quick rundown of how you lose moisture:

• Between breathing, sweating, and just... bathroom stuff, you're losing about 1.7 liters a day.
• When it gets hot out, you sweat way more, so your body cries out for water to cool down and regulate temp.
• When it's freezing, you actually lose extra moisture just from breathing.
• For every hour you spend being active or working out, you probably need an extra 1 to 3 glasses of water.
• Indoor heating dries out the air, so you either gotta drink more or turn the heat down a bit.