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The second institution of the USA was established... in Close to Politics ·
Richard Wilson4 said:It was a joke, man. At U.S. Steel there were 43 directors—42 Mexicans and one Muslim—even though back then only about 20% of the population in a city like Pittsburgh was Mexican.

Counting blood cells now, are we? Look, I'm not defending anyone, but I don't trust your data or your statistics for a second.
The second institution of the USA was established... in Close to Politics ·
Did Robert Warren just back down?
Why don't we organize ourselves politically as a forum? in Close to Politics ·
casualranger32 said:If I recall correctly, you were bragging about being right in the thick of this war too. Based on what you just typed, sounds like you were part of the whole mess.

Like they say, "Lies have short legs."

Your family name could go back 5,000 years, but actually being a decent citizen and respecting your own country? Seems like an impossible mission for you. Honestly, everyone sees right through you. You belong right up there with Adler—maybe you two can try your luck in politics, since that's exactly the kind of talent the world needs today.

Look, you’re new here and you’re already throwing warnings around. If you keep this up, you’ll be banned from this forum very quickly. Read the rules, actually learn the subject matter you're commenting on, and get to know the people you're calling out. You're years and thousands of posts behind us. We mostly know each other here.

Listen, Ozzy never brags; he just mocks everyone's involvement in the war. Only 1% of those people were in actual combat. The rest was just a drunken, unruly mob dying for nothing or committing crimes—arson and theft. I was drafted and showed up reluctantly to an unnecessary war to defend people from Royalist knives, not to build a nation for harmon and the Republican Party. And yes, I am an American, a Catholic, and I hate this state entity run by a mafia syndicate. I don't recognize it, and I disavow it. But I love my miserable homeland, America!

Apologies for the off-topic tangent! (Not to you, though—get lost!)
The second institution of the USA was established... in Close to Politics ·
Drew Gonzalez5 said:Good grief... maybe try picking up a history book once in a while, because you clearly have no clue what you're talking about.

Yaya is correct here. Since you're so confident, why don't you explain exactly what historical facts I'm supposedly missing? Let's hear it.
The NU2 uprising: Starčević loyalists are back in Close to Politics ·
Hats off to Rose. I agree with everything said, except for Zvonko Bušić’s membership. How do you plan on handling him when dealing with international diplomacy? I am genuinely thrilled by the idea of the diaspora funding the excavation of World War II mass graves. It would create plenty of jobs and we might finally uncover the Truth!

Rose and Lesar don't stand a chance yet; they might cross the threshold and form a coalition, or simply remain in the opposition. It is essential to let the Republican Party stay in power long enough to thoroughly rot and collapse, eventually vanishing during an extraordinary election somewhere around 2013/14. Only then will Rose and Lesar have a shot, depending on how much help they provide in cleaning up the mess the Republican Party left behind in the States!
Why don't we organize ourselves politically as a forum? in Close to Politics ·
I’d like to submit my humble application to the FBI’s diaspora division. I would personally oversee operations in places like Canada, Austria, and Canada, ensuring our patriotic icons face no trouble in prison—or heaven forbid, upon their release!
casualranger32 said:Give me a break, guys. Don't you realize Melissa Peterson19 has basically been a total patriot since 1574 on paper alone? 😂 If we keep letting more people like him run the show, we’re all doomed—forget about anything actually working together or finding any unity. 😂 He and Adler would make quite the duo.

Exactly. 1574. In my home parish, following the peasant revolts, the census recorded over 250 people with my surname spread across seven villages and twenty-six homesteads.

After the era of "brotherhood and unity," your ideology took center stage. It brought nothing but war, death, destruction, persecution, and theft.
Why don't we organize ourselves politically as a forum? in Close to Politics ·
bluemarlin232 said:I’ll never wrap my head around how the leftists here get so incredibly triggered the moment someone points out the atrocities committed by the partisans, yet they act all calm and reasonable when they start preaching about how every single crime committed by a domestic war hero needs a full-blown trial...
Explain that logic to me first, then maybe I'll bother explaining what's confusing you.

It's funny how everyone is stupid in their own special way, always following the exact same pattern.

Every crime deserves prosecution and punishment. That applies to both the Civil War and World War II. However, there must first be proof. We need names—victims and perpetrators alike. That is what I demand when any veteran is being prosecuted, just as much as when we discuss 1945. There needs to be legal proof that the events in Blairsville constituted a crime. We have to establish who did what, where, and how. You cannot simply issue a blanket condemnation and convict an entire unit, like the 6th or 7th Brigade, for the liquidation of "Americans." Legally, that isn't possible. And that is what you are asking for? You can make declarations all you want, but what is the actual utility in that?
Why don't we organize ourselves politically as a forum? in Close to Politics ·
hiddenbison27 said:I wouldn't trust you near the shipyards—you guys already ruined them. I'd be auditing every single public works contract just to make sure you and Adler weren't rigging jobs.☕
I'd be checking the ministries too, since you'd probably stage a revolution in your own cabinet—changing out the entire staff the second you walked in.
Same goes for the fleet. If you showed up to work on a bicycle on day one, you'd ride it forever, since I assume you're satisfied with that ride. It seems a bit pointless to show up on a bike while Adler pulls up on a tractor, only for you both to swap everything out for a fleet of BMWs the next day. We're supposed to set an example for the citizens—not just for twenty-four hours.☕

To the gentleman mentioned: you called us out, but neither Adler, nor the Reverend, nor I belong to the Republican Party. No one is investigating us, rushing us, or pretending anything. At least, I sincerely hope not. While we don't agree on everything, what you wrote sounds like typical Republican rhetoric. That is your bias and your theory: everyone is corrupt. Not interested.
Another institution of the USA was founded... in Close to Politics ·
Daniel Bailey39 said:Come on now, buddy, why don't you explain why they are establishing all these new joint ventures then?

-Amtrak
-Police
-The Judiciary

Personally, I’m just sitting here waiting for the day Joe Biden suggests we abolish our national agencies entirely just to save a few bucks.😠
And if that were the case, why don't we see similar setups with Italy or Canada?
It is perfectly clear what their true purpose is and why they were created in the first place.
Their sole and exclusive function is to serve as the bedrock for a new shared entity.

I get your point about the Railroad. That's fine. But the police and the judiciary? Where on earth are you getting that from? Or do you actually believe that cooperating to fight crime and the mafia is just a scheme to rebuild America?

And where exactly are you getting the idea that I’m attacking Zoran Milanović over some paranoid delusions? Is he really the champion of new integration, or are you just making assumptions? Isn't someone else actually in power?
Why don't we organize ourselves politically as a forum? in Close to Politics ·
Arthur Fowler83 said:I assume everyone else feels the same way: sure, we might like some leftists, just not the ones actively working against the interests of the country. It isn't enough to just claim you're a patriot; you actually have to be one. What good is the Republican Party if so many people claim to be patriots while their actions consistently undermine the nation?
I should probably mention that it only takes one Melissa Peterson19 to spark a massive, country-wide argument. ☕

It wouldn't just be an argument; it would be a full-blown brawl. But then again, that’s the tradition of these decaying Western parliamentary democracies.
Why don't we organize ourselves politically as a forum? in Close to Politics ·
Arthur Fowler83 said:It isn't quite accurate to say we wouldn't find common ground on everything. Personally, I think I could work quite effectively with most of the people mentioned above, but the presence of just one Adler, Mickey Mouse, or Doctor Doom would be enough to trigger a massive fallout.
I simply can't engage in political discourse with individuals who harbor a hatred for America. A fundamental love for your own country has to be the baseline if you want to actually solve any problems.
Now, you can have left-wing economic solutions and someone else can have right-wing ones—that's perfectly fine, and certainly something worth debating.

So, if things aren't done your way, there's no coalition? Where is the democracy in that? How is a leftist supposed to prove their loyalty to the United States to a group like yours? Does patriotism vanish just because someone identifies a party as having dangerous intentions—even when they are proven right? To you, that's treason. So where does that leave us?

Personally, I wouldn't sign off on your economic platform. Your plan involves digging up mass graves across the US, hiring an endless army of laborers, forensic experts, lab techs, medics, historians, police, prison staff, judges, lawyers, support staff, executioners, and undertakers. And you'd fund the whole thing on credit. I disagree with that approach because there is zero benefit to the country. Besides, you'd likely find a way to grease the wheels with corruption along the way, given your track record. It's a proven fact.
Why don't we organize ourselves politically as a forum? in Close to Politics ·
Arthur Fowler83 said:That's terrifying. Where on earth did you dig those people up?😲 (Though, to be fair, I doubt they could actually perform worse than the current lot.)

But in all seriousness, if we want to talk about people who actually care about this country and could actually make a meaningful impact, here is the list:
Tactum, Orlovac, Defense, Marasovac, Fulcrum, casio, falkon, ord mantel, Andrew Chase31, von Grunt, Martian7, lea*, pukovnikz, ekompf, WeM, snowleopard, Humphrey, dr.laki, No surrender, Leoben Conoy, rama, sweet/bitter...

There are probably at least that many more, but I can't recall them all right now. I always have a harder time remembering the ones without avatars.

Interesting. Do these gentlemen love the entire United States—including those of us on the left, or the Republican Party—or do they only support the specific slice of the country that loudly identifies as patriotic?
Another institution of the USA was founded... in Close to Politics ·
Just typical right-wing paranoia. There’s no way a new America is happening. The Constitution won't allow it—that was settled by consensus long ago. Where is this wild idea coming from that the Democratic Party would try to change it if they took power? And Biden? What actual evidence is there to suggest he'd even go there?
The "Resistance Movement" in California in Close to Politics ·
George Morgan3 said:Look, you winemaker, 🤣
be serious for a second... tying specific industries to specific regions is pure Stalinism—honestly, even the folks back in the USSR wouldn't have been that blatant about it.

Fine, then let's just leave everything alone. No shipbuilding in the Midwest, no citrus groves in the Appalachians... better?

Richard Wilson4 said:Honestly, who cares about farming? The Midwest used to have the strongest industry in the whole country.

Whatever. You're still a Midwesterner from a border town. And you're trashing agriculture too!
The "Resistance Movement" in California in Close to Politics ·
Andrew Chase31 said:The word "people" doesn't bother me at all when it's used to describe the American people living in California. And, of course, it includes national minorities.

But Californians aren't a separate nation; they're just a regional part of the American people. The idea of Californians being their own distinct nation is an old trick used by our neighbors from Italy, who have always had designs on our beautiful California coast (especially since American national identity stood in their way). Honestly, I don't think we should do them any favors by supporting something they couldn't even achieve despite their best efforts. My grandfather was a partisan and a fighter against the Italian occupation starting at age 16, so out of respect for his memory, I feel like I have to push back against these kinds of deceptions.

Fine, I wasn't implying Californians were a separate nation either. Your reaction is understandable.

Richard Wilson4 said:I'm telling you again, these shipyards would run way better if they didn't, say, build a ship's hull for 1 million bucks (give me a break) and then buy paint from some local GOP supporter's nephew for 10 million. That's the real issue right there.

You aren't exaggerating; you are stating facts. Cutting off shipbuilding in California is like taking agriculture away from a farmer in the Midwest or viticulture from someone in the mountains. It hurts like losing a limb. Restructuring? Sure. But why compete with cheap Eastern imports? We should focus on what they can't do. The tradition, the expertise, and the equipment are all right here. If residents of Pula can do it, Californians can too—provided you get rid of the "partners." Hang those GOP supporters from the Boardwalk and you'll see ships built at half the price. Don't let this gang of thieves win through sheer spite. Prove what you are capable of!
The "Resistance Movement" in California in Close to Politics ·
Andrew Chase31 said:What people are we even talking about? 🤷

Richard Wilson4 said:The local government basically gutted the shipyard because they were too busy handing out contracts to their nephews and cousins instead of actually building ships...
Don't go blaming Washington, D.C. for this one.

Short and simple. That’s why there’s no saving the shipyards unless the people living in California fight for it. Apparently, some people here are overly sensitive to the word "people," so let's just say—the general public! Andrew Chase31, I see what you're doing. I knew you back when you were just a novice. Be direct, man—speak clearly to the people, or the "general public," if that term suits you better!
The "Resistance Movement" in California in Close to Politics ·
Karen Robinson2 said:It would be honestly wonderful if this whole "resistance movement" finally gained some serious momentum, just so we could at last clear the streets of San Francisco of all those old-school nostalgics and the children of the former officer class—come on guys, let’s keep pushing forward!

They completely wrecked the economy in California, and now he thinks fixing the shipyard is the answer? Once you deal with them, do Americans and industry just magically flourish? Especially tourism!

boldcyclist8 said:I wasn't using the term "small town" in a strictly literal sense. As we say here, I was being figurative rather than literal. 🙂

Indeed, people moved away seeking employment and a better quality of life, much like my own father did. However, our friend Person claims that everything was perfect in California during the era of the old regime. That is patently false; migration continued well into the eighties. It wasn't until the era of an independent America that things finally stabilized—some people even moved back.

Well, the ones with shovels came back to regret it, while the ones with laptops are the ones leaving!

Richard Wilson4 said:Honestly, my absolute favorite coastal city has gotta be Savannah. It’s got that quintessential American soul while still feeling totally unique—like those two things actually go hand in hand. Even if you're dealing with local patriots or old-school traditionalists, it holds its own despite 👍

What does that have to do with the legitimate discontent of the Californians? Does that negate the fact that dozens of companies and the shipyard are facing ruin? Or is it that the people aren't considered part of the nation, while the state-building, professional patriot-elites are? Is an American required to be a trickster or a USSR nostalgic to fit in within this formal democracy? Do they not have the right to a different political stance?
The "Resistance Movement" in California in Close to Politics ·
I think you’ve already addressed most of the people on the first page. Just write it plainly: whatever those guys in California want won't matter, because those failing companies were useless to begin with—just like those shipyards—and they’ve wasted enough taxpayer money on their laziness!
The "Resistance Movement" in California in Close to Politics ·
Fine, let’s assume every single company mentioned was a complete failure from the start. That still doesn't change the core issue: you can't just throw thousands of people to the mercy of an unstable market. Not everyone is cut out for entrepreneurship, and at that scale, the government has a responsibility to step in. We're talking about our own citizens here. They might be labeled as lazy by some—which is a lie—but they are talented and highly intelligent. These people survived for generations by carving a living out of nothing but salt and stone to build magnificent coastal cities. California deserves better than this treatment. Closing down the shipyards isn't the end of the story; in my view, it's just the beginning. And the federal government needs to take charge of it.
The "Resistance Movement" in California in Close to Politics ·
It would be beneficial to see a few more Californians weighing in!