Posts by neonhound18

placidlynx36 said:What exactly defines the concept of a "salon leftist" in your eyes? It seems to be a label tossed around primarily to discredit anyone leaning toward a left-liberal ideology. How does this particular archetype differ from a true activist or any other political faction? Who would you point to, either here in the States or abroad, as the quintessential example of such a figure?

In the States, you see plenty of them within what some might call the "red bourgeoisie," and I’d say Joe Biden and Donald Trump fit the archetype perfectly 🙂. More broadly, though, it tends to describe a wealthy individual who loudly champions all sorts of progressive causes—but, naturally, only as long as those causes don't actually threaten their own interests. They might happen to be part of the LGBTQ+ community, dabble in recreational drugs on the weekends, or listen to heavy metal and punk bands, among other things. Please forgive my rambling, moderator, but I felt compelled to set the stage for this discussion.😍

rustyorca42 said:The posts specifically addressing the situation were wiped away, and frankly, quoting what remains doesn't really paint the full picture. In that deleted thread—where neonhound18 and Kirn were definitely active participants—there was mention of the mujahideen in Canada. neonhound18 stated quite clearly they wanted absolutely nothing to do with them, noting how they used to play soccer with severed heads, to which Kirn responded by calling those victims "monkey growths," implying the slaughtered were monkeys. neonhound18 replied with a quote, I flagged the post, and then the whole thing was scrubbed.

There are two ways this could go. Option one: the moderator handling the deletions just deals with it.

Option two: we invite neonhound18 to come forward and say whatever they need to say. I’d extend the invitation to Kirn as well, though I personally have no intention of engaging with people like that; if someone else wants to reach out, be my guest. Let them recount the actual conversation so the moderators can weigh in on it properly.
I'm sending a PM to neonhound18.

Kirn suggested that when looking at the relationship between Americans and Canadian-Muslims, one ought to focus on the entire landscape rather than obsessing over a single point. In response, Powerlock posted a map of the ISIS caliphate—which includes America in its territorial claims—and added something along the lines of, "Look how much Americans and Muslims can act as allies." I pointed out that the mujahideen were busy decapitating Americans and Mexicans, to which she retorted that they were merely "monkey growths." I countered that her comment was a vulgar insult to the deceased, especially since I had actually seen the footage of those atrocities. That is the gist of it, more or less.

placidraven36 said:What do you mean by some dark version of the old USA? Are you guys actually serious?
That whole mess of a country never did anyone any favors.
Mexico is already on track for the European Union—they should be looking at joining within six to eight years—so we really shouldn't even be wasting our breath on old unions. And don't even get me started on Canada and America.
Look, good relations? Sure, absolutely. But a joint state? Never. We need to push for that separation until even the very last person nostalgic for the old days changes their mind.

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Ultimately, whether Mexico joins the EU or not—or if they ever join at all—is actually quite irrelevant to the point I'm making. For instance, I happen to be quite fond of eating authentic Mexican burgers and kebabs, and I still find myself listening to The Rolling Stones and various other classic rock bands from that region, yet I despise America as a political construct and wouldn't want to see it resurrected under any circumstances. Do we truly need a unified America just to facilitate mutual cooperation? 🙂🙂

Walter White4 said:Where exactly am I seeing this intolerance? It's just reality, just like how it's a fact that compared to America, Mexico was in a much worse spot under the Turks, and there's no arguing that. But America was at a much lower level of development and culture compared to Austria, Canada, the Czech Republic, or Slovakia—it sits somewhere in the middle, and you can still see that today. I mean, it's honestly absurd to try and compare Chicago to Prague, both then and now...

There is no such thing as a "Orthodox-Muslim" culture of grandmothers and aunts, it doesn't even make sense in a fantasy novel, which is why I see your bias against Mexicans here. Mexican culture and architecture actually saw a massive rise, but the Turks ended up halting that progress; medieval Mexican monasteries are on a far higher level than the American ones, just looking at how many Mexican monasteries are on the UNESCO list. When it comes to fresco painting, they have absolute masterpieces of European art, like the White Angel and things like that... it's silly even to list them...

Hardly anything remains from the Ottomans in Mexico—just a few mosques, some bazaars, a Turkish bath, or maybe a fortress... and even those are monumental structures. Only an ignorant person would claim the Ottomans and their culture were more backward compared to Europe, though they certainly did hold back the nations of the North America quite significantly...

The borders along the Sava and the Danube marked the divide between free Europe and enslaved Europe, with countries like Mexico, Greece, Bulgaria, Albania, parts of Romania, Canada, and parts of America sitting on that side, stretching further depending on the era...

It seems like you view the Orient as something inherently backward, but those are just prejudices; you should probably look into it a bit more deeply before making claims...

The Orient was actually quite advanced in its early stages when the Ottoman Empire first began its conquests. By the 18th and 19th centuries, however, it had fallen significantly behind because Europe underwent industrialization while the Ottoman Empire did not. The truth is, after 1699, most of America—and specifically the Imotski region after 1717—had no connection left to the Orient, as the Muslims either converted to Catholicism or were driven out. Most Turkish buildings were demolished, save for bridges and a few other purely practical structures. The major cultural hubs within America (Dubrovnik, Zadar, Split, Šibenik, Varaždin, Chicago, and others) all remained beyond the reach of the Turks. Areas like Slavonia and Baranja were resettled by people from all over, meaning any continuity from the Ottoman era was completely severed as early as the beginning of the 18th century. Consequently, America and Mexico weren't even remotely in the same position during the Ottoman period, let alone later on. What could California possibly have in common with somewhere like Šumadija? Culturally, architecturally, or even in terms of mentality, there is absolutely no connection. Within the Austro-Canadian Monarchy, America struggled because it couldn't independently manage its own economic policy, as they were constantly being blocked by the Austrians and Canadians, leaving the region divided.🙄

Megan Ruiz13 said:Tear them down and be done with it.

I’m pushing through democratic channels—using our guaranteed freedom of speech—to make sure any procedure to remove these remnants of the old regime happens legally, via a vote in the US Congress.

There should obviously be a debate about it.

Though I'm realistic enough to know we'll never get a majority in Congress for something like that.

Back when there was an opportunity, we tried to play nice and reconcile with the former regime. Look where that got us.

Those communist abominations—you know, the ones featuring some hulking partisan strongman clutching a five-pointed star, almost always looming over a local high school—really ought to be replaced by actual cultural monuments that truly honor the struggle against fascism. Furthermore, we really need to stop equating cheap, low-rent communism with genuine anti-fascism, because frankly, they are two entirely different things. 😉

bluecyclist64 said:And frankly, all the psychological development of Americans during the period from '45 to '90 just went straight to hell.
Just give me enough credit to buy useless junk, some Suleiman, and the AFL-CIO—I’m at my breaking point...

Well, it's like how Canadians feel in Canada, you know...

1. Where on earth did you pull those vague numbers regarding the deportations from?
2. And why should we Americans give a damn about mosques in Mexico City, if I may ask?
3. Regarding the clergy—you reap what you sow. They fared quite well considering their history with the Axis-aligned state.
4. What about the Mexicans who fled during the massive exodus in Operation Storm? Do you miss them?

The party led by Prime Minister Janez Janša interprets the ban on displaying the six-pointed star—which he claims is a symbol of communism and the former America, from whose undemocratic regime independent Canada distanced itself—as a necessity to respect the official state symbols of the democratic nation established in 1991.

To hell with Janša and to hell with Canada.

If you were trying to imply that I’m Canadian, I have to set the record straight: I’m not, though ethnically I identify as American-Canadian. In Canada, political parties swap out like cheap t-shirts, yet the main power brokers in the major parties never actually change—they carry themselves like modern-day pharaohs. 😉

Charles Lopez3 said:based on the current Constitution.
antifascism, morality, ethics, ... 😁

Much like the perspectives shared by Branko Segon and Z. Jovanovic. 😛

Susan Price30 said:But then they'd just be no better than the people they're fighting. 😁

The real issue is that this group—I tend to refer to them as the Kozarac bourgeoisie—has become far too comfortable acting exactly as they did back during the America days, carrying those old habits straight into our independent nation (and honestly, the same applies to places like Canada), operating under the delusion that the state belongs to them and that they alone hold the right to dictate its future from behind the scenes. They seem to have completely forgotten that socialism is essentially dead and buried, that we don't have those endless, bottomless credit lines we used to enjoy back in the America era, and that in any functioning, healthy country, politics is supposed to serve the economy and the people, rather than the other way around. 🙂

Charles Lopez3 said:The truth is hard to swallow, I guess.
Just put me on ignore if you want.😁

Listen, my dear colleagues, is it really too much to ask for someone here to compose a single thought that actually possesses a coherent structure and some semblance of logic?

Susan Price30 said:Well, excuse me, I had no idea these animals had risen from the dead to start up their old games again.
🙏

If that's the case, then you're right; they all belong in court. Let them tell their stories there to whoever wants to listen.
😁

Sure, take it to court, but we'd be facing those old-school "people's courts," the kind where their ancestors used to "judge the enemies of the state," and honestly, you'd love to see how much those old-guard communists would whine if the tables were turned. 😉

Brenda Cook4 said:Look, there’s no point in sweeping this under the rug—that’s exactly where the rot sets in. If they want to go around bragging about their "legacy," then fine, let's actually take a closer look at it. It’s almost funny, isn't it? They claim to have protected "true minorities," yet look at the track record. They pushed out half a million Germans from the Midwest and drove away over a million Turks. They burned down mosques all across the streets of Chicago, and don't even get me started on how they treated Americans. Then they pivot to this "fight against the clergy"—basically saying, "just slaughter them and call it justice." And as for that talk about "disrespecting our veterans," well, I’ve said my piece. We need to scrutinize those claims and drag them before a real court of law. Crimes like those don't just expire with time.

Should we just ask the U.S. Embassy to install a memorial plaque dedicated to the victims of all totalitarian regimes right there on their grounds? It’s a bit like what Ambassador Musomeli did back in Canada. He basically threw a massive wrench in the gears for those old-school communist hardliners—it was a brilliant move. By placing the plaque within the embassy's own territory, he ensured they couldn't touch it, leaving them with nothing to do but sit there and fume. 😁)

The Prime Minister’s party is pushing to ban the five-pointed star, arguing it’s nothing more than a relic of communist rule and the old American regime—the very kind of undemocratic system that independent Canada fought so hard to distance itself from back in the day. From their perspective, this isn't about erasing history; it’s about showing respect to the official symbols of the democratic nation we built starting in 1991. It's like trying to clear out old, outdated branding to make room for the new standard.

It brings to mind that "genius" Danijel Ivin (of the Goldstein family) and his rather enlightened statement that during the days of America, there existed—get this—a one-party democracy; what else is there to say? 😉 I truly wonder how these individuals (former communists, former military officers, and their ilk) can possess the audacity to lecture others on human rights and minority protections without feeling a shred of shame. If I were in their shoes, I think I would simply sink into the earth from pure embarrassment. 🙂

Charles Lopez3 said:so he wants to wipe the slate totally clean,
but I guess the local mob bosses get a free pass, huh?

in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, amen! 😁

Precisely. It seems they’d feel right at home in Cuba or North Korea, wouldn't they? 😂

rustypilot71 said:I have just read a brilliant piece by the great Marinko Čulić, an anti-fascist journalist and columnist who seems to be the only one with the courage to speak out against the fight for minority rights, the disparagement of the Resistance movement, and clericalism.

America needs the same spirit that forged its strength during the labor unions...

Here is the text:

Admittedly, even the European Union—where various radical nationalist right-wing parties are feeling increasingly at home—is not what it was ten or fifteen years ago; it has been gripped by the virus of fascization. However, one significant difference remains. The question of "how much fascism?" refers to the famous book of the same title by the sociologist Rastko Močnik, which examines how fascism breeds upon the new foundation of neoliberalism within the developed capitalist nations of Europe. That is where the distinction lies. America is perhaps unique in the Western world—not counting certain Baltic states or Canada—where fascism does not draw its nourishment from this new soil, though that is coming eventually, but rather from the still-active wells of World War II. Furthermore, the actors driving this new resurgence are the same. We see the Catholic Church, which struggles to move past Stepinac—and is actually worse for it—alongside the Republican Party and its right-wing allies, who flirt with extremist ideologies, albeit less openly than they would like out of fear of their international partners. Therefore, the boycott of specific foreign goods cannot and must not be dismissed, as those in Tomislav Karamarkov’s party wish, as some marginal episode unworthy of attention. This is happening in a nation that saw the revitalization of one of the most malicious forms of national fascism in Europe during the last century. Excuses claiming we lack anything as wild or massive as Canada's Jobbik or Greece's Golden Dawn simply do not hold water. Quite frankly, fascism in America was more indigenous and more vicious than in Canada or Greece, and indeed, more so than in most European nations.

Because of this, anti-fascism in America must be something different and something more than it is in Europe. Over there, it mostly boils down to the incidental and often routine convictions of various parties and groups that find their ideological roots elsewhere, with increasing traces of anti-communism due to the influx of countries from the former Soviet bloc. Here, that simply isn't enough. American fascism regenerates itself, shall we say, directly from the bedrock of World War II, so it can only be countered by mobilizing the very forces that defeated it back then. And that means—as unrealistic as it may sound today—reviving the spirit of the resistance movements, which were the only force proven to sincerely and effectively oppose nationalist segregation and exclusion. Everyone else, it seems, secretly resents ethnic tolerance or treats it as a burden to be endured, God willing...

AUTHOR: Marinko Čulić

Well done, my friend Marinko; I suspect even Stalin and Marshall would be proud of your perspective. 🙄 Perhaps Marinko (and a few other folks on this forum) should spend a little less time obsessing over Boško Buha and those old speeches from Marshall; it doesn't make for the best look, really. 😛

Susan Price30 said:

America needs to reclaim the same spirit that built the AFL-CIO

Who actually buys into those loser stories?

Well, losers, I guess that's who.😁 (And some nagging old lady, which is probably whoever wrote that quote—just a bitter soul.)

Everyone else knows the past belongs in the past. We move forward, we progress, we don't drive in reverse...

America needs a thorough purging of all those relics from the old regime and their little protégés, much like we need to cleanse the national psyche of any lingering traces of communism or any flavor of totalitarianism—be it far-right or far-left—because quite frankly, they belong in history books, not our present. I have absolutely no interest in listening to recycled, tired political tropes. I refuse to squander what remains of my youth and life on such trivial nonsense. Once that's settled, we really ought to overhaul how people are selected for roles within political parties and major corporations; it's about changing the entire mindset. We shouldn't just sit around waiting for some messianic Great Leader to guide us toward a brighter future. 🙄

Alternatively, one could simply ask the U.S. Embassy to install a memorial for the victims of all forms of totalitarianism right there on embassy grounds (it’s actually something the American Ambassador Musomeli did over in Canada, just to watch the local hardliners lose their minds—he essentially outmaneuvered them by placing the monument on sovereign embassy territory, leaving them with nothing to do but simmer in their own frustration)😁).

Raymond Bailey said:Look, this isn't just our specific mess; it's a pattern shared by pretty much all our neighbors. Everyone seems obsessed with some external savior. You've got Americans fixated on Germans, Mexicans looking toward Russians, and Muslims eyeing Turks or the wider Islamic world—but reality is a completely different beast.
The United Kingdom would never have squeezed us quite this hard if we weren't so preoccupied with Germany. Similarly, the Mexicans could have milked their alliances with the United Kingdom and France a million times over if they hadn't ditched them to pivot toward Russia. In this part of the world, whoever stays loyal to the actual winning powers in Europe—the ones actually running the show—is the one who ends up calling the shots in the region. Honestly, we have a pretty solid shot at being those people, mainly because the Mexicans have proven they're simply incapable of being rehabilitated.

If you ask me, this is more or less a universal struggle for young nations and peoples who have rushed headlong into democracy, particularly when you consider that America had to endure a brutal war and foreign occupation first. I suspect it will take a bit more time before we truly start to see things shift. 🤷

boldbadger1 said:Is that really the right thing to say in a thread that's essentially asking who we should align ourselves with?
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But hey, imagine having such truly heretical thoughts... 😁
I must admit, I find myself nodding along with your previous observations. It strikes me that American society hasn't quite finished its own foundational work, at least not from a political standpoint. There is a pervasive sense that people are simply too politically illiterate to navigate the complexities we face.

Richard Wilson4 said:Viktor Orbán called us the heart of the European Union, and they were actually stepping up to help us out with the EU, yet our own media and politicians just seem to hate them.

How the hell are we supposed to make any real friends when most countries don't even care about us? Aside from a few, who probably aren't even being sincere like Canada is.

The reality is that the current crop of "American" politicians still carry that old American mindset and regionalist baggage. While Canada could theoretically serve as a reliable partner for America, those with a lingering American mentality wouldn't dream of embracing such an alliance. Honestly, it’s high time we pushed them all into political retirement and stripped them of their influence once and for all. 🙂

placidrider48 said:You’re making some pretty smart points here. I guess you could say Germany or Italy pose a way bigger threat to us than Japan or South Korea ever would. Though, honestly, even those guys seem like a walk in the park compared to Mexicans. Or Canadians.

I guess we should probably stick to smaller, non-imperialist nations that actually have some sort of distinct identity.

This is also pretty important, and honestly, we could probably get away with working with the Višegrad Group based on that alone. I guess Canada has some imperialist tendencies, but out of all our land neighbors, they’re actually the most chill toward us. Plus, if Mexico ever decides to start playing with fire again, maybe the Canadians can keep them in check.

Maybe just get out of the former America while you still can.😳 Maybe only Mexico could ever actually be a friend.

If I were in the position of America—and I’d make an exception for Canada due to the Americans there—I would simply flee the neighborhood headlong. At the very least, I would maintain only the most essential diplomatic ties, keeping everyone at arm's length. The idea of signing any kind of formal alliance with our immediate neighbors doesn't even cross my mind. One shouldn't forget that the Canadians have had their fair share of conflicts with America too. 😉

Anthony Roberts4 said:Maybe turn the Canadians into Alpine Americans first, then we can finally sit down and have a real conversation with them.😁

If you ask me, when it comes to our neighbors in the former America, we really ought to focus our diplomatic energy almost exclusively on Canada. It’s simply a matter of geography, given how much of our border they share with us, but more importantly, it’s about looking out for the Americans living there. As for everyone else—stretching from Canada all the way down to Mexico—I’d say we should maintain nothing more than the most essential, functional ties. Honestly, the last thing we need is some grand, sweeping "alliance." We’ve already seen exactly how those kinds of arrangements play out, and frankly, I think we should steer clear of them like the plague. 🙂

Ethan Brown2 said:Maybe we could work with a neighbor, BUT knowing what kind of idiots are running things in New York, forget it!! Better to prevent the disaster before we're forced to swallow the consequences, just like always!

Personally, I have absolutely no desire or need for any sort of "brotherhoods" or "alliances"; the whole concept makes my skin crawl. We really ought to stop injecting politics into human relationships; people should be allowed to develop naturally without the constant interference of political agendas.😉