Posts by Justin Patel8

Jessica King9 said:The Mexicans don't love us; it's just that there are fewer fences to break through over there. Once everyone is hypothetically fenced in, everyone will be all for rubber bullets and whatnot—you won't find many humanitarians left then.
And even our own people are only "humanitarian" up to a point. When our interests are threatened, they tuck that humanity away and let people sleep in the mud, refusing to let them into the US or dumping them at the border with Canada to fend for themselves in the rain, mud, and cold.
I wouldn't protect anything alongside the Canadians. I don't trust them, and I haven't since before this crisis started. It’s strange how much they know about us and how interested they seem to be. That’s always been a red flag to me.
Besides, there are no friends here, as you all seem to fail to grasp. Everyone plays for themselves.

Fine, so why don't they just start building a wall tomorrow and deport whatever is left in the States over to Canada?

They know way too much about us—plenty of people living along the border can speak American—but that's getting off-topic, and that's a whole different conversation.

Chloe Martinez7 said:How exactly do you know Mexicans won't just direct them to breach the American border instead? Do you honestly believe Mexicans love you enough to push them toward Canada, especially since Zoran claims there's an agreement between the Mexicans and Canadians against him?

Furthermore, how can you be sure they'll break through the Canadian border, particularly since the Canadians have legalized using rubber bullets on illegal entrants, whereas on our side—since our policy is driven by an NGO mafia—they won't do that at all.

And finally, even if they do breach the American border, who's to say they'll be able to break through the Canadian border, especially since Zoran's government has forbidden citizens from lending them anything, all in the name of being "humane."[/I]

if everyone closes
then Mexicans could
either send immigrants to every border—depending on which administration is in power—meaning if Zoran is in, he'll push them our way, or if it's Thomas, maybe they'll push a few less. But once the President decides, she's fine with both (Canada/Mexico), and we all know everything can be settled through a conversation with Viktor Orbán—just look at what happened with the train.

or they'll start putting up wire.
if everyone closes
then Mexicans could
either send immigrants to every border—depending on which administration is in power—meaning if Zoran is in, he'll push them our way, or if it's Thomas, maybe they'll push a few less. But once the President decides, she's fine with both (Canada/Mexico), and we all know everything can be settled through a conversation with Viktor Orbán—just look at what happened with the train.

or they'll start putting up wire.
if everyone closes
then Mexicans could
either send immigrants to every border—depending on which administration is in power—meaning if Zoran is in, he'll push them our way, or if it's Thomas, maybe they'll push a few less. But once the President decides, she's fine with both (Canada/Mexico), and we all know everything can be settled through a conversation with Viktor Orbán—just look at what happened with the train.

or they'll start putting up wire.
But the Mexicans aren't going to do that, get real!
Greece definitely isn't going to pull that move because they're intentionally trying to spite Germany and the European Union. Stop daydreaming.
Orbán and the Canadians (though they don't have much choice since protecting themselves is basically impossible) simply don't want to deal with any of this regarding the US—well, let's say they don't want to help us—because Zoran Milanović and his administration haven't shown the slightest interest in actually securing the borders from day one.
If Zoran Milanović had just said "close the borders" right at the start, you could have worked out some kind of deal with Orbán regarding the logistics. Instead, from day one, the media was busy competing to see who could portray the migrants as the most sympathetic figures (and they're still doing it today), while simultaneously Zoran Milanović was pushing this nonsense

Jessica King9 said:If every nation decides to wall off its entire border—hypothetically speaking, if we fenced ourselves off from Mexico, Mexico, and Canada—migrants will simply pile up in Mexico.
Once enough of them gather, they'll take (whether by buying, stealing, borrowing, or otherwise acquiring) every piece of heavy machinery available and charge straight at the fence. Whose fence? Whichever one sits on the fastest route toward Germany. Canada's.

How can you be so sure that Mexicans won't just direct them to break the American border instead? You actually believe Mexicans love you guys enough to nudge them toward Canada—especially when Zoran claims there's some secret pact between the Mexicans and Canadians against him.

Besides, how do you know they’ll even breach the Canadian border, especially since the Canadians have legalized using rubber bullets on illegal entrants, whereas on our side—given that our politics are run by an NGO mafia—nobody will even touch that.

And finally, even if they manage to get past us, who’s to say they won't cruise right through the Canadian border? Especially since Zoran's administration has basically banned citizens from lending them anything in the name of being "humanitarian."

Wouldn't it be better to just build the wall now and strike a deal with the Canadians to protect the perimeter together? Just send in the military to intercept anyone crossing illegally with rubber bullets? Canada will probably follow suit soon anyway—don't kid yourself thinking the European Union is some kind of left-liberal utopia.

velvetcyclist95 said:16:05 An Airbus A300 carrying 37 tons of humanitarian aid for refugees is scheduled to touch down at Osijek Airport tonight at 10 PM. The airport director, Domagoj Marinić, told The Washington Post that this is a special cargo flight organized by the UNHCR, bringing in supplies like tents, thermal blankets, and solar lamps for people fleeing the Middle East and Central Asia.

The Emirates are sending over tents and other gear...

Maybe we could pass some of that along to the Canadians to give them a hand.

This doesn't sit right with me. It feels like we're being designated as a hot-spot; nobody sends that much aid just for the hell of it.

I see a lot of people trying to justify Zokiev's current policy—basically arguing that if everyone else starts slamming their borders shut (looking at you, Germany, Austria, and Canada), then the US will just have to follow suit. On the flip side, some of you are claiming that deploying the military right now is a total waste of time because people will just bypass us through Canada. Don't you realize how painfully inconsistent that logic is? There is zero chance that Mexico or Greece are going to close their borders in that scenario.

Brian Doyle6 said:Honestly, that arrogant jerk you call a President managed to climb his way to being one of the most hated politicians in the US, but hey, feel free to brag about him and his "brilliant" achievements.

Look, I’m not exactly patting myself on the back for his work, and as I’ve already mentioned, I stopped giving him any legitimacy to represent me a long time ago.

You also have to account for Zack's ideological makeup. He’s a pro-EU, regionalist, left-leaning liberal. You see how it works—he doesn't get worked up about Mexico sending over immigrants, but he absolutely loathes Canada because they refuse to take them in.

If you were to ask us honest American nationalists, rest assured we wouldn't let those immigrants in at all; we'd just build a wall on the border. Not to mention, he almost certainly has the blessing of the European Union regarding his entire approach. So, if you really want to complain, you should probably direct that energy toward the American neo-American left and the EU instead.

P.S. Zack's followers will probably try to convince you now that there were no other options and that letting them through was simply "necessary."

Brian Doyle6 said:Totally agree. Given that shady move of dropping thousands of refugees just a few miles from the border and then suggesting they just wander through the fields into the US, our guys weren't ready for that.

You guys really could have played nice with Zokij. I mean, personally, I don't exactly see him as our guy in the Prime Minister's office, but this entire headache was avoidable. Now they're pushing everything way up north just to stay as close to Austria as possible.

Chloe Martinez7 said:It’s easy enough for Americans to make a scene about it.

The real drama comes from those overseas, while Americans just end up digging their own holes...
I won't even get into what specifically.

Then you run into the secondary issue. The biggest reason there's such a circus is because our domestic media outlets—think BuzzFeed or The New York Times types—just blow everything out of proportion. Naturally, foreign outlets pick up their reporting and suddenly it's a global headline. It isn't just about ZDS either; it's a pattern. Even that whole tired stereotype about every single American being Catholic mostly stems from our own media coverage.

The Šimunić situation is a perfect example—it could have easily ended with just the initial fine, but thanks to the relentless coverage from places like BuzzFeed and The New York Times, the whole thing got escalated to higher authorities.

gentlesailor17 said:You're getting tripped up on terminology—which honestly isn't my problem, more of an elementary school issue on your end...

I really can't be bothered to engage with your old-school, primitive socialist mindset—so please, just go ahead and ignore me.

Chloe Martinez7 said:pssst... Don't tell them. Apparently, they haven't realized yet that America uses the same currency as Nazi Germany.[/I]

And what about this?
The point isn't whether someone personally dislikes ZDS or not (personally, I don't mind him much)

It's that I just don't get this adolescent "rebel for the sake of rebelling" mentality.

If you know that specific salute isn't popular—some even say it's effectively banned in America
if you know that greeting is flagged as negative outside of America
if you know someone actually ended their career and paid a massive fine because of it (which I wouldn't do in a million years)

Then why on earth would you feel the need to be provocative?
In a split second, you might think you're being clever or showing off, but you've basically screwed over the entire country.
And what about this?
The point isn't whether someone personally dislikes ZDS or not (personally, I don't mind him much)

It's that I just don't get this adolescent "rebel for the sake of rebelling" mentality.

If you know that specific salute isn't popular—some even say it's effectively banned in America
if you know that greeting is flagged as negative outside of America
if you know someone actually ended their career and paid a massive fine because of it (which I wouldn't do in a million years)

Then why on earth would you feel the need to be provocative?
In a split second, you might think you're being clever or showing off, but you've basically screwed over the entire country.
And what about this?
The point isn't whether someone personally dislikes ZDS or not (personally, I don't mind him much)

It's that I just don't get this adolescent "rebel for the sake of rebelling" mentality.

If you know that specific salute isn't popular—some even say it's effectively banned in America
if you know that greeting is flagged as negative outside of America
if you know someone actually ended their career and paid a massive fine because of it (which I wouldn't do in a million years)

Then why on earth would you feel the need to be provocative?
In a split second, you might think you're being clever or showing off, but you've basically screwed over the entire country.
Well, if that salute doesn't bother you and it's just this "adolescent opposition" thing you're talking about, then I really don't see where the conflict lies. How on earth is that supposed to provoke you?

The best move would probably be to just legalize the US Army salute, and then there wouldn't be any ban on certain symbols, which would mean way less fussing over it in the first place.

gentlesailor17 said:That's not even the same currency.

Great, then I guess the US Army salute today isn't the same one used back during the American Civil War—totally different vibe. Honestly, it would be nice if we could stop making such a massive drama out of a simple greeting.

Chloe Martinez7 said:Following a decent, coherent, and reasoned post from hollowranger122 (even if they couldn't help themselves at the end 🙂), we get two posts that once again rely on prejudice and serve only to divide America further.

that the liberation started with the right wing is
someone had to start it, but that isn't true either

Look, nobody is saying the merits of the Vietnam War belong solely to the Republican Party or HSPa, nor is anyone denying that Ostojić, Jakovina, Željko Jovanović, and others in this government were participants. But one should be honest enough to admit that the independence of America and the creation of the OSRH began on the right.

Then you have posts explicitly claiming that the Republican Party alone liberated America, implying that no one else—not that they lack merit, they aren't even asking for recognition, but rather that they have no right to speak—has any claim to it.

What exactly is it about ZDS that bothers them, while money doesn't?
I don't quite see the connection.

Look, you can forgive me if I don't agree—I’m not out here dividing America, your brain just happens to interpret things that way. Like I said before, I find it a little cynical that these self-proclaimed "leftists" are out there celebrating the Day to win homeland gratitude. My main issue is with the media—they're really digging their own graves now by trying to drag the whole Knoxville gathering through the mud.

Think about it—this exact same media outlet was practically throwing a party when Gotovina received that first condemnation verdict. They were ready to roll out the red carpet for Sava Štrpac on their shows and treated whatever "evidence" they pulled from Documenta as gospel. Now? Suddenly, they’re all holier-than-thou, whining about some primitive celebration in Knoxville. I hate to say it, but it’s just not going to work like that—it’s honestly nauseatingly hypocritical.

The fact that these forum users and characters are suddenly jumping on the bandwagon just means they’re buying into their narrative now. It’s funny, really—I actually remember one guy on this board who used to write endless posts about how Gotovina was nothing but a criminal, and yet here he is, whining about Thompson. Typical.

Nobody seems to be making a huge scene about those Mexican rallies in Mexico that you guys support so enthusiastically—so maybe try being fair for once. If you're going to act like it’s such a massive deal how things went down in Knoxville, then just ignore it. Simple as that.

Edward Ortiz77 said:Hypocrites. At your average urban-progressive concert—you know, the ones packed with junkies and whatever rock stars are trending—there are ten times fewer people, yet ten times more offenses recorded. Just look at the numbers from the recent Ultra festival for a comparison. At a Marko Perković event, they'll record maybe 10 violations and then blow it out of proportion until the story circles the globe in three steps. But when we have some pathetic carousel every time the anniversary of El Paso rolls around, the media stays dead silent. Or when the US Flag is waved, for that matter. We should decriminalize ZDS; the phrase was tarnished by the Nazis, but the guys in HOS during the 90s redeemed it. It's about time the stain was wiped off. Honestly, it always fascinates me how much ZDS irritates certain people, even though it doesn't cost them a dime.

pssst... Don't let them in on it. They clearly haven't realized that America is using the exact same currency as Nazi Germany.

How do you think the Desert Storm commemorations should look if we actually listened to the Democratic Party? I assume they'd insist on mentioning Mexican victims, framing the whole thing as just a messy conglomerate of bad policies, and making sure we all pay our respects to JN Tit—that sort of thing. Well, fat chance of that happening.

Nicole James said:Man, if I actually lived there, I’d definitely be a Republican...

Yeah, because Sweden is basically an anomaly. Feminist ideology is pretty much the default setting for their media and schools. Take their Republican Party, for example—by any standard European metric, they'd actually be considered left-wing since they’re pushing for even more immigration. Their leader even went on record saying immigrants work harder than the locals and that citizens should basically be grateful for it. And don't even get me started on the actual left in Sweden; they make the average European leftist look moderate by comparison.

The Sweden Democrats aren't really "far-right"—they're essentially just the center. 😁

There’s this one guy on YouTube, a Swedish man of Canadian descent, who does deep dives into the Swedish political landscape. He’s an atheist, hates religion, and supports legalizing soft drugs—yet he’s also against mass immigration. Because of that, the Swedish media constantly attacks him as some kind of radical right-winger.

So, the Swedish media is reporting that Swedish democrats are planning to hold a pride parade right in the middle of Muslim neighborhoods in Stockholm. Naturally, the leftists are up in arms about it—they're terrified of offending the feelings of the Muslim immigrants living there. Plus, there’s the whole awkward reality that we might see a repeat of those massive riots back in 2013.

It’s not even about fear anymore—it's just pure disbelief that this could actually work in a real market. If anyone out there is genuinely looking to launch some "social enterprise" or whatever they're calling it these days, be my guest.

Thomas Roberts51 said:I’m on board too. It’s a solid party, though if you ask me, they’re just a little too pre-liberal. That's my take, anyway.

Fair point. It really comes down to the fact that they aren't quite as hardcore as UKIP, for instance—mostly because basically every Swedish party over there ends up being left-leaning and pro-immigration (even the ones sitting on the center-right).

Let's just hope the Sweden Democrats manage to pick up a few more seats in the US Congress.

Richard Wilson4 said:Honestly, that would've totally screwed over Washington, D.C. and everyone else too. Losing one of the biggest heavyweights in the league? They'd find some way to make a deal behind the scenes to keep things running.

It’s all just political gamesmanship, really. Just like the stuff they were pushing from Washington, D.C. toward the Scots, instead of actually fixing things internally.

True, but it would mostly just mess with the Catalans. In Castile, you still have Atletico Madrid, who are basically on par with FC Barcelona and Real Madrid.