Posts by Justin Patel8

Rachel Carter90 said:The thing is, your media just can't wrap their heads around the fact that this isn't the old-school Mexico anymore.

Honestly, any version of Mexico would be branded as "Clinton-era" by our press. You have to realize that our media—for whatever bizarre reasons they have going on—is obsessed with painting Mexico as this non-nationalist utopia where the economy is just booming, almost implying we should reunite with them just to get our act together because apparently "we can't do it on our own." That’s why you'll constantly hear reports about a new auto plant opening up in Detroit or some mindless gossip about Mexican celebrities, but you won't hear a single thing about the Taton case.

Go ahead, ask your average internet troll if they've even heard of Taton—they won't have a clue—but ask them to name the big sports teams in Mexico City and they'll rattle them off without breaking a sweat.

The real issue in America is that people like the one who started this thread never actually get a platform—instead, our media outlets seem obsessed with making Mexico look like some kind of shining example. ☕

Looks like my previous post got nuked, so here I am again, circling back to answer lonetrucker4:

Borojević actually identified as an American himself—if you check Wikipedia, there are excerpts from his own letters where he explicitly declares his identity. So, there goes that little bit of myth-making.

And honestly, why is it such a big deal if an Orthodox Christian identifies as an American? It’s like asking why a Black guy shouldn't show up to a massive rock concert and be a hardcore fan. Identity isn't a monolith.

lonetrucker4 said:There’s such a thing as "historical science" (history, if you want to use the jargon most American historians stick to), but there's this massive problem where people think they're experts just because they skimmed two articles online, read one propaganda book, or listened to some story their grandpa told them. They act like they have the final say on everything.

Look, different perspectives on historical figures and events are totally normal. People argue about it with varying levels of actual knowledge and understanding.

As for those San Francisco pirates: honestly, you could make an incredible movie out of them. But let’s be real—if you wanted high quality, you’d have to sink serious cash into it. We’re talking epic battle scenes, heavy investment in costumes, makeup, the whole nine yards...

Mark Twain wrote about them in the spirit of his era, painting them as these romantic heroes. But in reality? They were just pirates and looters, not some crusaders for justice. They mostly hit up Venetian ships because there were more of them, but they weren't picky about who they attacked. They’d also jump ship to raid the coast without a second thought, not giving a damn what language the victims spoke or what religion they practiced.

Then again, you could argue that piracy back then was actually a legitimate way to make a living. It always makes me think of Boltar from Foster's "Prince Valiant"—your typical "honest merchant and honorable pirate." 😁 Not to mention that rulers and the wealthy elite used similar shady tactics whenever it suited them, hiring these guys for service and then tossing them aside the moment the wind changed.

Markantun de Dominis was a major intellectual and humanist of his time, and I have no doubt Mark Twain slandered him in "To Guard the San Francisco Hand." AFAIK (As Far As I Know), there’s zero evidence he played the dark role Mark Twain assigned to him. Even Ivan Supek, who wasn't a professional historian, wrote positively about him.

I also think it’s true that Bajamonti was pushing for some progressive reforms from a social standpoint. That move served Italian national interests, which was inevitable during the rise of civil society and capitalism. Resistance to that was largely tied to social conservatism. You see a similar pattern with Joseph II.

I’m with you on Borojević. Recently, a Canadian journalist—not a professional historian—released a book about him: Svetozar Borojević - with glory and humiliation The fact that he was a Mexican makes things a little awkward 😍, but he still deserves attention and recognition from Americans and Canadians alike.

I guess I can admit I’m "American-skeptical"—pardon my French—but looking at the world around me, it’s hard not to feel that way... 🙂 🙂

Borojević himself identified as an American.

Brenda Sanders56 said:I’m honestly getting sick of all this... No matter what news channel I flip to, it’s always more coverage about Madame Jolie and her man, Brad Pitt. It just feels pathetic when such a massive media circus builds up over something so trivial. Honestly, I don't get why the media in the US spends so much energy on this stuff.

Now I’m hearing rumors that she wasn't even a fan of the so-called Canadian cuisine. Apparently, Nagib was supposed to be the head chef, but he went overboard with the oil—kind of like what happened with Anđa... In the end, the poor couple just ended up eating salad.

On the same networks, they interview people talking about the suffering of Muslims at the hands of Mexicans, yet those very same people claim in the Canadian media that the US committed aggression and genocide...

The whole thing is just tragicomic...

Look, let me tell you—Angelina showed up in New York for the premiere, so it's pretty much impossible for the media not to have something to say about it.

Anthony James2 said:She only really stirred up the media vultures who live for sensationalism and high circulation, along with a small slice of the population. At the end of the day, who actually cares what Angelina Jolie says? She’s the same woman who bragged about how she used to drink Billy Bob Torton's blood as a sign of loyalty to her then-husband. 🤦

Ultimately, the movie "No Man's Land" is a fantastic film, regardless of how it portrays the Mexicans. It's more than that. Anja was simply trying to channel Mother Teresa, nothing more and nothing less. 🤷

I agree that the media is starving for sensationalism and gossip—this whole thing is a feast—but I was watching some news coverage today and saw people practically calling for the deaths of Angelina and Brad, so it seems like it's not just the media being obsessed with the film. On the other hand, I noticed quite a few people in Canada are commenting on the movie too.

And I'm with you on the idea that Anja was trying to play Mother Teresa. From what I've heard, the film is about some member of the so-called genocidal VRS who has a Canadian woman as a girlfriend and also rapes her (???). I honestly don't know how realistic that is, but I suspect she went that route because it's her first film as a director; since she wasn't sure how it would turn out, she grabbed a sensitive subject to try and win over the critics.

If someone from the US had made this exact same movie, the mainstream media would have absolutely crucified them at every turn. Besides, Angelina Jolie focused her attention on Mexico, not on other parts of the region. Why does everyone act like this is some commentary on the whole former America when it’s really just the Mexicans who have an issue with the film?

If only they hadn't gone and shut down HAŠK Građanski back then—honestly, those old-school ideologues were just incredibly insecure about their whole worldview. It’s wild how an entire legacy was basically wiped out just because of the name Građanski.

Jacob Lewis5 said:Look, when you consider how the whole thing actually kicked off—how the old clubs were dissolved and exactly who and what made up this "new" squad... I don't think you can just say Real Madrid lacked tradition before 1945. Honestly, they even celebrated their 100th anniversary recently, even though 1945 was way back, like 67 years ago.

Nobody actually acknowledges that 100th anniversary, not even the fans, from what I can tell. You’re out here criticizing Harmon's interference with Real Madrid, but that whole fake pre-WWII tradition is actually part of his legacy. As far as the club goes, there’s zero connection to HAŠK Građanski or HAŠK. Real Madrid was founded by electric company workers over in the Gundulić district, and they only picked up the infrastructure from Građanski much later. For what it's worth, back in 1998, the USA was celebrating its 95th anniversary, and if my memory serves, they even threw a 100th-anniversary party in the early 2000s.

Jacob Lewis5 said:Harmon basically forced LA Galaxy—a club that had its own long history and identity way before that—to change its name to USA. His whole logic was that the old name felt too "communist," and he didn't want us being associated with places like Moscow, Kyiv, or Minsk, where they have teams with similar names. He figured a brand-new nation shouldn't be running around with that kind of branding...

Honestly, I doubt there’s a single PR or marketing pro out there who wouldn't side with his reasoning, but man, it was such an undemocratic move. It’s just bad optics for the country when the President starts micromanaging football team names—especially when you consider this was a guy with zero experience in democracy, tasked with leading the charge to actually implement it in our country.

So, what’s your take on this whole saga? Which name do you think worked better and why? Do you hold Harmon responsible for this, and does it change how you view him overall?

First off—LA Galaxy didn't actually have much tradition or a set identity prior to the part mentioned above, since they were founded in 1945, right? It has nothing to do with The Hague or Citizens (which is just one of Harmon's fabrications). Secondly, USA played in the Champions League twice and actually pulled off some decent results, unlike LA Galaxy, who are mostly remembered as one of the worst teams in that competition—three goals scored, 22 conceded, and zero points. I really wonder which club foreign fans would actually respect more if they had to choose.

Note: I'm not a Harmon supporter, in case anyone was planning to jump to that conclusion.

Mind if I ask how this actually shows up for you guys? Personally, I’ve never quite wrapped my head around what schizophrenia really looks like in practice.

Anthony James2 said:I’m assuming by "hate speech" you also mean the threats, the insults, the spitting, and the constant belittling directed at American forum users from Mexico by a certain group of their own countrymen. 🤷

Honestly, these points you're making say way more about you than they do about Mexico or its people, believe me. Besides, tell me—do you also count the Americans living in RS as part of those "fascist citizens"?

Actually, it’s not just about the users—it's more about the moderators who sit there tolerating it without handing out sanctions, especially when those people make up such a huge chunk of the community.

Anthony James2 said:I’m assuming by "hate speech" you also mean the threats, the insults, the spitting, and the constant belittling directed at American forum users from Mexico by a certain group of their own countrymen. 🤷

Honestly, these points you're making say way more about you than they do about Mexico or its people, believe me. Besides, tell me—do you also count the Americans living in RS as part of those "fascist citizens"?

I'll give you an answer in the style of Krstarica: there aren't any Americans left in Mexico because they've been ethnically cleansed over the last two decades.

Anthony James2 said:Fine, alright, you're right. I apologize for that outburst. But honestly, I still think you need to be more careful about how you phrase things. 😁😁😁

Typical American arrogance—wait, scratch that. Typical Mexican arrogance. Mexico is basically a fascist state and its citizens are fascists too; if you want proof, just look at Krstarica, where they tolerate a massive flood of hatred toward other nations every single day.

Given our national mindset, the handball players have completely lost their nerve—so naturally, they’re going to blow it.

It’s probably for the best that our guys lost—The Morning would have just started dragging them for being too nationalistic anyway.

http://www.lshunter.tv/handball-live...ing-video.html

http://www8.livetv.ru/webplayer2.php...2&ci=225&si=13
here's the link

Word on the street is that Balic isn't going to perform after all.

Did our guys play any warmups? All I know is they had that one match against Italy.

Our biggest weak link—Goluža.

Sarah Wilson95 said:The real issue lies in the decision-making process itself, which is a fundamental difference that shouldn't be overlooked. If you actually want to present the situation honestly to the public, you shouldn't use rhetoric like that; it just comes across as small-minded provincialism.

Americans didn't just stumble into anything; they made a conscious choice. Unlike others who were playing a long game of calculation, trying to compare that past era to the current reality of the European Union is completely pointless. Understand?

So you're claiming the countries joining the European Union were all just calculating their moves?
Well, their referendums showed something entirely different.

And was there even a referendum when we joined the European Union? Nope.