Posts by stormybadger8

ruggedfox28 said:How many rounds has it been since we last saw a pit stop on the Super League? Time to trigger one swap?

I gotta check, but I'm betting we're looking at a disqualification and pulling the reserve after this round.
Anyway, it'll be officially sorted once this round's results are out.😉

Raymond Anderson4 said:You can swap out the gearbox during the first two practice sessions without getting hit with a penalty.

Tomorrow's pole fight is going to be a fun one.
Lewis is fast, but Sebastian Vettel might have a slight edge since he hasn't even touched the soft tires yet—and his times on the medium compound were already solid.
Didn't really notice the two McClarens pushing too hard either, though they've definitely got the pace.
As for Lotus... they look pretty quiet. It felt like they were just running laps with half a tank today.
They didn't come anywhere close to the top.

Oh, Seb actually did use the red tires.😁
On a full tank for a stint of about 20 laps, and still pulling identical 1:19s.😁

Red Bull Racing honestly looks like maybe their best car of the season so far.🙂

Michael Lee4 said:Not watching... what's up with Noble? Is he testing something?

If I caught this right, they either swapped his gearbox during Practice 2 or were just fixing it, but there was definitely some transmission issue that dragged on for about an hour.🤷
I honestly have no clue if he's going to get a penalty or not.🤷

darkmarlin16 said:Ferrari looked great in FP2 🙂

If only I were that good during qualifying and the race 😬

Given how this season is going, I’m expecting seven different winners—specifically the guy with seven titles and those seven wins at the Grand Prix of Canada.

Pangloss - Patagonia 15-0
Crickets. No response to the offer.
Pangloss - Patagonia 2-0

ruggedfox28 - darkmarlin16 5-5
Romain Grosjean - Pastor Maldonado 1-1
Romain Grosjean - Jenson Button 2-0
Romain Grosjean - Sebastian Vettel 0-2
Romain Grosjean - Mark Webber 2-0
Romain Grosjean - Fernando Alonso 0-2
ruggedfox28 - darkmarlin16 1-1

Jessica Ramos12 - Edward Howard2 2-10
Perez - Kobayashi 0-2
Rosberg - Schumacher 0-2
Ricciardo - Vergne 2-0
Alonso - Räikkönen 0-3
Hamilton - Button 0-3
Jessica Ramos12 - Edward Howard2 0-3

Christian Williams61 - stormybadger8 6-4
Heikki Kovalainen - Vitaly Petrov
2-0 Jean-Eric Vergne -
Daniel Ricciardo 2-0
Sergio Perez - Kamui Kobayashi 0-2
Pedro de la rosa- Narain Karthikeyan 2-0
Nico Rosberg - Michael Schumacher 0-2

OVERALL STANDINGS:


MATCHUPS:

Pangloss - Patagonia 15-0
Silence on the offer.
Pangloss - Patagonia 2-0

ruggedfox28 - darkmarlin16 5-5
Romain Grosjean - Pastor Maldonado 1-1
Romain Grosjean - Jenson Button 2-0
Romain Grosjean - Sebastian Vettel 0-2
Romain Grosjean - Mark Webber 2-0
Romain Grosjean - Fernando Alonso 0-2
ruggedfox28 - darkmarlin16 1-1

Jessica Ramos12 - Edward Howard2 2-8
Perez - Kobayashi 0-2
Rosberg - Schumacher 0-2
Ricciardo - Vergne 2-0
Alonso - Räikkönen 0-2
Hamilton - Button 0-2
Jessica Ramos12 - Edward Howard2 0-3

Christian Williams61 - stormybadger8 6-4
Heikki Kovalainen - Vitaly Petrov 2-0
Jean-Eric Vergne - Daniel Ricciardo
2-0 Sergio Perez
- Kamui Kobayashi 0-2 Pedro de la Rosa
- Narain Karthikeyan 2-0 Nico Rosberg
- Michael Schumacher 0-2 Christian Williams61 - stormybadger8 2-0

I'll get the full standings and tables done later.
Check if this looks right. I didn't really double-check anything myself.

stormybadger8 said:Heikki Kovalainen - Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne - Daniel Ricciardo
Sergio Perez - Kamui Kobayashi
Pedro de la Rosa- Narain Karthikeyan
Nico Rosberg - Michael Schumacher

🙂🙂🙂😠😠😠

Congrats to Ferk👍>

Christian Williams61 said:Heikki Kovalainen and Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne and Daniel Ricciardo
Daniel Ricciardo, Sergio Perez, Kamui Kobayashi, Pedro de la Rosa, and Narain Karthikeyan
Kamui Kobayashi, Pedro de la Rosa, and Narain Karthikeyan
Nico Rosberg and Michael Schumacher

Heikki Kovalainen - Vitaly Petrov
Jean-Eric Vergne - Daniel Ricciardo
Sergio Perez - Kamui Kobayashi
Pedro de la Rosa- Narain Karthikeyan
Nico Rosberg - Michael Schumacher

Edward Howard2 said:So, what's the deal with that rulebook update everyone's been waiting for? Where's it stuck? 😁

Seriously, you guys 🤷
Apparently, nobody gives a damn about the rules.

It’s actually pretty interesting to pit these two systems against each other using a real example. You can really see how different the results turn out.😉

The current scoring system said:1 competitor Karlospeedi 33 (2) - 25
2 Dinaminjo 33 (1) - 18
3 Sepa 31 (7) - 15
4 rosi 31 (2) - 12
5 Unknown/Niche nickname 31 (0) - 10
6 prOPrusina 30 (3) - 8
7 stormybadger8 30 (1) - 6
8 Ferstar 29 (2) - 4
9 Pilatus 29 (1) - 2
10 mobberzg 28 (0) - 1

11 Patagonija 27 (2)
12 Paskaneman 25 (1)
13 MAXYM 23 (2)
14 maminho 22 (0)
15 Kimi Räikkönen 20 (1)
16 Pangloss 20 (0)
17 Rain 17 (0)
18 WayOut 16 (2)
19 Dorian Yates.Gray 16 (0)
20 Bjesomar_ 13 (1)
21 _express_ 11 (1)

Matthew Young35 said:1 Dinaminjo 102
2 Pilatus 108
3 ruggedfox28 112
4 Beverly Hills 114
5 TBF1 116
6 Manhattan 118
7 Rose 120
8 Dorian.Gray 122
9 _express 124
10 Sepa 126
Mobberzg 126
South America 126
Maxym 126
Kimi#1 126
15 Maminho 128
16 Pr0Pusina 130
17 Pangloss 132
18 Matthew Young35 134
19 Wayout 136
20 Rain 148
21 Karlospeedi 149 *

* competitor Karlospeedi was awarded two sets of 26 points because he's currently missing two drivers from his roster.

The numbers in parentheses in Bjesomar's system show the difference in rank compared to the current system.

It's pretty obvious that bad predictions—the ones where you leave drivers out—get absolutely hammered here.
Also, it's kind of weird that people with a decent amount of correct positions aren't even close to being good under Bjesomar's system compared to the current one. You'd expect the opposite, right? They should be doing better, not worse.😕

Current scoring system excluding FL and PP said:1 competitor Karlospeedi 33 (2) - 25
2 Dinaminjo 33 (1) - 18
3 Sepa 31 (7) - 15
4 Unknown/Niche nickname 31 (0) -10
5 Unknown/Niche nickname 30 (3) - 8
6 stormybadger8 30 (1) - 6
7 Ferstar 29 (2) - 4
8 rosi 27 (2) - 12
9 Pilatus 25 (1) - 2
9 Paskaneman 25 (1)

11 mobberzg 24 (0) - 1
12 Patagonija 23 (2)
12 MAXYM 23 (2)
14 maminho 22 (0)
15 Kimi Räikkönen#1 20 (1)
16 Pangloss 20 (0)
17 WayOut 16 (2)
18 Dorian Yates. Gray 16 (0)
19 Bjesomar_ 13 (1)
20 Rain 13 (0)
21 _express_ 11 (1)

Not much swinging around this week, honestly. There just weren't many FL or PP hits to trigger anything.

I didn't make it in time, and honestly, I completely blanked on the results🙈
😲I didn't even realize how insane this round was😢 It’s a complete bloodbath for anyone playing the odds

Everyone back home is rooting for you👋
Damn, if you don't pull off a win, man, we might just have to pack up and leave before you catch up to us by the end of the season🙂
You've already got almost double my points...
I'm pissed. Seriously pissed.😬

Quote : MAXIM - Pangloss 0-15
Jean-Éric Vergne - Nico Hulkenberg 0-3
Daniel Ricciardo - Pastor Maldonado 0-3
Jean-Éric Vergne - Daniel Ricciardo 0-3
Pastor Maldonado - Nico Hulkenberg 0-3
Jean-Éric Vergne - Pastor Maldonado 0-3
Quote : MAXIM - Pangloss 0-3

Patagonia - darkmarlin16 4-9
Jenson Button - Lewis Hamilton 0-3
Michael Schumacher - Nico Rosberg 2-0
di Resta - Kimi Raikkonen 0-3
Pastor Maldonado - Daniel Ricciardo 0-3
Sergio Perez - Kamui Kobayashi 2-0
Patagonia - darkmarlin16 0-3

Ferstar - rosi 3-10
Lewis Hamilton-Jenson Button 0-3
Sergio Perez-Kamui Kobayashi 0-2
Nico Rosberg-Michael Schumacher 0-2
Maldonado-Grosjean 3-0
Daniel Ricciardo-Jean-Éric Vergne 0-3
Ferstar - rosi 0-3

The Best F1 - ruggedfox28 3- 10
Nico Rosberg - Michael Schumacher 0-2
Heikki Kovalainen - Vitaly Petrov 0-3
Jean-Éric Vergne - Daniel Ricciardo 0-3
Jenson Button - Lewis Hamilton 3-0
Narain Karthikeyan - Pedro de la Rosa 0-2
The Best F1 - ruggedfox28 0-3

OVERALL STANDINGS:


MATCHUP SCHEDULE:

Matthew Young35 said:To be fair, Karlospeedi actually has a terrifyingly accurate forecast, but he’s missing two drivers.
This is exactly why I suggested we implement a rule where you can lose up to 5 or 10 negative points. You could have the best forecast of anyone else, but if you're missing those two drivers, you end up dead last in the rankings. Doesn't that seem a bit unfair?

Look, in this madness, history shows us that anything can happen, so let's say it's possible:

Scenario 1

Matthew Young35 said:Ferstar:

1-Vettel 5
2-Hamilton 6
3-Raikkonen 0
4-Webber 7
5-Button 4
6-Alonso 4
7-Schumacher 17
8-Grosjean 4
9-Rosberg 2
10-Kobayashi 5
11-Perez 9
12-Massa 3
13-Maldonado 12
14-di Resta 0
15-Hulkenberg 5
16-Senna 7
17-Ricciardo 4
18-Kovalainen 2
19-Glock 1
20-de la Rosa 1
21-Karthikeyan 1
22-Petrov 5
23-Vergne 11
24-Pic 3

TOTAL : 118

///////////////////////////////////////////////

Paskaneman:

1-Button 8
2-Raikkonen 1
3-Hamilton 5
4-Webber 7
5-Vettel 1
6-Grosjean 2
7-Alonso 5
8-Schumacher 16
9-Rosberg 2
10-Perez 10
11-Maldonado 10
12-di Resta 2
13-Hulkenberg 3
14-Kobayashi 9
15-Vergne 3
16-Massa 1
17-Senna 6
18-Ricciardo 5
19-de la Rosa 0
20-Kovalainen 4
21-Glock 3
22-Karthikeyan 0
23-Petrov 6
24-Pic 3

TOTAL : 112

///////////////////////////////////////////

Maxym :

1-Button 8
2-Hamilton 6
3-Vettel 3
4-Webber 7
5-Alonso 3
6-Schumacher 18
7-Rosberg 0
8-Raikkonen 5
9-Grosjean 5
10-Kobayashi 5
11-Perez 9
12-Massa 3
13-di Resta 1
14-Hulkenberg 4
15-Senna 8
16-Ricciardo 3
17-Vergne 5
18-Maldonado 17
19-Petrov 2
20-Kovalainen 4
21-Pic 0
22-Glock 4
23-Karthikeyan 1
24-de la Rosa 5

TOTAL : 126

//////////////////////////////////////////

TBF1 :

1-Vettel 5
2-Kobayashi 3
3-Raikkonen 0
4-Webber 7
5-Grosjean 1
6-Perez 14
7-Button 2
8-Schumacher 16
9-Hamilton 1
10-Rosberg 3
11-Maldonado 10
12-Alonso 10
13-Senna 10
14-Massa 1
15-Vergne 3
16-di Resta 2
17-Hulkenberg 7
18-Ricciardo 5
19-Petrov 2
20-Glock 2
21-Pic 0
22-de la Rosa 3
23-Kovalainen 7
24-Karthikeyan 2

TOTAL : 116

Rosi :

1-Raikkonen 2
2-Vettel 4
3-Hamilton 5
4-Webber 7
5-Grosjean 1
6-Rosberg 1
7-Schumacher 17
8-Alonso 6
9-Kobayashi 4
10-Perez 10
11-Maldonado 10
12-Massa 3
13-Senna 10
14-di Resta 0
15-Vergne 3
16-Hulkenberg 6
17-Petrov 0
18-Kovalainen 2
19-Glock 1
20-Pic 1
21-de la Rosa 2
22-Karthikeyan 0
23-Ricciardo 10
24-Button 15

TOTAL : 120

Kimi#1

1-Hamilton 7
2-Vettel 4
3-Rosberg 4
4-Schumacher 20
5-Webber 6
6-Button 3
7-Raikkonen 4
8-Alonso 6
9-Grosjean 5
10-Kobayashi 5
11-Perez 9
12-Ricciardo 1
13-Maldonado 12
14-Senna 9
15-Massa 0
16-di Resta 2
17-Hulkenberg 7
18-Vergne 6
19-Petrov 2
20-Kovalainen 4
21-Glock 3
22-Pic 1
23-de la Rosa 4
24-Karthikeyan 2

TOTAL : 126

///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Begemontica :

1-Raikkonen 2
2-Button 7
3-Vettel 3
4-Webber 7
5-Rosberg 2
6-Hamilton 2
7-Schumacher 17
8-Grosjean 4
9-Kobayashi 4
10-Alonso 8
11-Perez 9
12-Massa 3
13-Hulkenberg 3
14-Maldonado 13
15-Vergne 3
16-di Resta 2
17-Ricciardo 4
18-Senna 5
19-Petrov 2
20-Kovalainen 4
21-Glock 3
22-de la Rosa 3
23-Karthikeyan 1
24-Pic 3

TOTAL : 114

Right, I forgot to include
6-Perez 14
8-Michael Schumacher 16

And that's how I win this race, because now I'm sitting at: 86+5+5= 96😉
Just imagine the absolute chaos if that actually happened.
People would literally lose their minds.😉

Scenario 2
Someone might think they're being clever by gaming the system—maybe only picking 10 or 5 drivers—and then you get something like:
14x5= 70 / 19x5 =95
Suddenly, winning the round becomes way too easy.😉
From what I can see, most predictions land somewhere in the 110-120 point range.

So, even if the 24-driver rule looks harsh, I think it's fair.
Of course, everyone's going to complain, and if you look at any of these lists, it seems like you could have a killer prediction just by dropping one or two names.
And all it takes is one driver to DNF, someone forgets to list them, and suddenly we've got total mayhem.

This won't work unless we put a hard cap on points—say 10, 12, or 15—for both the drivers you pick and the ones you miss.
The only thing that makes sense is having a maximum point limit for everyone, regardless of whether they were listed or not.😉

Matthew Young35 said:Personally, I’m against making major rule changes while the season is already underway.

I didn't even realize we were expecting results using Matthew Young35's method. Alright, I'll get started on that.
My apologies if this takes a while; it's my first time doing this.

Perhaps it would be wise to open a thread regarding next season's regulations right now? I suspect it would spark a pretty lively debate.

Not a bad idea.🙂
I need to check in with the rest of my mod team to see what they think, dig through some old posts on the subject, and then I'll spin up a new thread.

Personally, though, I love the idea of keeping that discussion in its own separate thread instead of cluttering this one.🙂

As for these results, just post them however you want. I'll compile everything into one big pile tomorrow.
It'll actually be pretty useful to see how those two systems stack up against each other.🙂

Matthew Young35 said:1 Dinaminjo 102
2 Pilatus 108
3 ruggedfox28 112
4 Beverly Hills 114
5 TBF1 116
6 Manhattan 118
7 Rose 120
8 Dorian.Gray 122
9 _express 124
10 Sepa 126
Mobberzg 126
South America 126
Maxym 126
Kimi#1 126
15 Maminho 128
16 Pr0Pusina 130
17 Pangloss 132
18 Matthew Young35 134
19 Wayout 136
20 Rain 148
21 Karlospeedi 149 *

* competitor Karlospeedi was awarded two sets of 26 points because he's currently missing two drivers from his roster.

Why 26?😕
Shouldn't that be 24?🤔

William Bennett53 said:To be perfectly honest, I simply don't have the inclination to sit here and crunch all these numbers right now. It leaves me with no other choice but to offer my tacit support for Matthew Young35's suggestion. 🙏 🙏

Who says you have to rush? You can always get it done properly in two, three, five, or even ten days. 😉
It doesn't matter at all. What matters is actually making it if we want to have a debate about it.

That's exactly why using those different calculation methods makes it obvious right away which way the wind is blowing—you can tell immediately if something’s working or if it’s a total disaster.🙂

Look, it’s obvious. This season has been a total mess.
That’s why I started that thread about rethinking the points system and maybe switching to Matthew Young35's method next year.😉

So, what’s actually the issue?
When Max was drafting those rules, hitting the 11th through 16th place bracket was legitimately a nightmare.
I think that’s what he was aiming for.

Because you basically had predictable patterns:
4 cars from two teams in 1st-3rd
4 cars from two teams in 4th-10th
6 cars from three teams in 17th-24th

Everything else was a toss-up, but those specific groups were practically constants for years.
Predicting positions 11-16 was way harder than guessing the top spots.

But this season? There aren't really any constants left—aside from the usual bottom six drivers from three teams—so the old logic doesn't even apply anymore.
But hey, it is what it is.🤷
Changing the scoring system mid-season makes zero sense unless we come up with something better that everyone can actually get behind.

In the meantime, I'm just waiting to see the results based on the systems proposed by Matthew Young35 and Dorian.
Mainly so I can figure out where the discrepancies are and why.

ruggedfox28 said:Quote: Narain Karthikeyan vs.Pedro de la Rosa

ruggedfox28 says: Nico Rosberg vs. Michael Schumacher Heikki Kovalainen vs. Vitaly Petrov Jean-Éric Vergne vs. Daniel Ricciardo Jenson Button vs. Lewis Hamilton

@TBF1D - you better congratulate me on this easy win... 😛

Not sure if those numbers are even right, but whatever, congrats on the win anyway.🙂

I'll crunch all the math tomorrow. I'm wiped today.