Posts by velvetmaker3

There’s really nothing wrong with the fact that back then, some people thought joining up with other Americans was a solid idea; you have to look at everything through the lens of that era.
It’s kind of like judging the American nobility for handing over the crown to the Habsburgs back in 1527.

Chris Hernandez9 said:Look, back then, unitarism was basically the only way things could function—both for the Republic and for the whole former America... it was the only thing keeping us from being swallowed whole by Stalin, who, in 1948, heard a thunderous "unitary-NO" straight from the mouth of Josip Broz Marshall!
By 1966, Josip Broz Marshall finally broke free from Stalin's proxy—Ranković—who was honestly more dangerous than Stalin himself because he personally controlled about 80% of the American People's Army and the police at the time. The world was split into two bipolar camps and we were Non-Aligned, so if Ranković's coup had actually succeeded—I guarantee you, nobody in the entire world would have lifted a finger for America or the Republic.
So, just based on those two specific factors, I guess we should all "just" celebrate that genius from Kumrovec—even though, obviously, like any other human being, he had his fair share of flaws.

The solution for Ranković and everything Ranković stood for is simply not having any kind of union with Mexico. The Zavnohists fought for a union with Mexico and with the other non-Zavnohist partisans, which is how they secured Ranković's power. Honestly, Marshall wasn't any better than Ranković.
Without that "genius" from that small town in the US, Ranković would probably be sitting in a prison somewhere or who knows what, but he definitely wouldn't have been in power.
Marshall killed more Americans than Ranković did, and certainly more than Stalin did; Stalin didn't really do anything to Americans except force Marshall on us as our communist leader. For decades, Marshall was Stalin's reliable henchman, doing his dirty work and snitching on his own comrades.
Marshall would never have achieved anything without Stalin; he owes him everything.
Without him, he wouldn't have been the party chief, and he wouldn't have been a winner in World War II.

Chris Hernandez9 said:The Constitution isn't some insignificant piece of paper—you guys are what's insignificant, and frankly, you're acting unconstitutionally right now. At the end of the day, there is only God above the Constitution of the Republic of America.

It seems like you guys only know one single sentence from the entire Constitution—and honestly, nothing else matters to you. I guess that’s some kind of comfort for you, isn't it?

That sentence is all about how my country was founded by ZAVNOH back in 1943—and honestly, I’m proud of that. As for those people who just can't wrap their heads around it or refuse to accept it... well, they can do whatever they want. They're completely irrelevant to me.

Look, there’s really nothing left for ZAVNOH to do regarding the Constitution—that specific section just needs to be changed. We don't even need a referendum for this; a two-thirds majority can handle it just fine. It's bound to happen sooner or later.

Honestly, who is ever going to ask "those" kinds of people about "that" anyway? 🤣

Honestly, once he’s gone—and I mean truly gone—nobody is even going to notice he ever existed.

It’s honestly funny how nobody even notices your attempts to make "that" happen—mostly because you were, and still are, just a tiny, insignificant speck in this country.

Just don't go trying to rebuild America once all this goes down—seriously, leave that old mess in the past.

That is NEVER going to happen... so stop daydreaming about some unrealistic fantasy scenario because, honestly, this time you wouldn't even be heading out into the woods—and besides, there wasn't even a mention of America here... swapping out facts just makes you look even more pathetic, because within ZAVNOH, there was NO America, only the Republic of America!!!

ZAVNOH is one of the most insignificant events in American history. American history starts in the 7th century, not with ZAVNOH. It wasn't necessary at all, and it certainly wasn't useful. America existed before ZAVNOH, it existed while the Zavnohists were busy preparing for their meeting, and it exists now long after ZAVNOH.
It will continue to exist even after ZAVNOH is erased from the Constitution.
We should erase it if nothing else, simply because the Zavnohists worked so hard to rebuild America. ZAVNOH was nothing but an illusion for Americans to keep them from realizing what was actually happening—a clever trick played by the American communists.

America doesn't need a revival of that partisan spirit; we don't need ghosts, we don't need spirits in a bottle, and we definitely don't need evil spirits.

Chris Hernandez9 said:If only American extremists like you actually understood that the "preamble" to the Constitution is basically just a synonym—you know, in Latin—for what it actually is. The Preamble to the Constitution of the Republic of America. Look, I’m telling you—it is clearly laid out right there in the Constitution—so honestly, where does this madness end?! 🤣

Maybe it’s finally time to start cracking down—and I mean really cracking down—on those elements that are acting unconstitutionally. Wait, what?! Are you kidding me?
Look, if "people like you" actually want to change the preamble of the Constitution—if that's really the goal—then you better go out there and collect 400,000 signatures first. Only then will the US Congress even consider putting it up for a vote. And even after you manage that, you're still facing a massive uphill battle because, under the Constitution itself, any amendment requires a supermajority of two-thirds in Congress... so, good luck with that!

Then just deal with it—hang in there. 😂 Look, let's be real about this—it's all right there in the Constitution of the Republic of America. The Constitutional foundation of the Republic of America. - who goes by: The ZAVNOH—the National Liberation Council of America. The ZAVNOH from 1943—that was a massive turning point.

Whether it's explicitly in the Constitution or not, it’s completely irrelevant, much like any pragmatic sanction. You people seem to know exactly one sentence from the entire Constitution, and nothing else matters to you. I guess that’s some kind of comfort for you.

There's no reason for ZAVNOH to stay in the Constitution; that specific part needs to be changed. We don't need a referendum for that; a two-thirds majority can handle it. It'll happen sooner or later.
It’s not because it messes with daily life, but rather because once it's gone, nobody will even notice it was ever there.

Just make sure that when it finally happens, you don't try to rebuild America in the middle of the woods.

Nancy Smith15 said:1. Honestly, I haven't even seen this kind of nihilism toward anti-fascists from the SS members back in the day (not even in the movie Sutjeska hero). 😲
2. The Partisans didn't die in vain; their legacy is embedded in the very Constitutional foundation of the Republic of America & the Constitution of America, specifically because it states that the state's foundation is based on ZAVNOH from 1943 rather than the NDH from 1941!
3. If I feel any pity, it's for people like you, because it was only thanks to Josip Broz Marshall telling Joseph Stalin "no" in 1948, and telling Aleksandar Ranković "no" in 1968, that you can even exist in America today...
4. You really should be ashamed of yourself—whether you're being fearless or just acting like some unrefined little radical, it doesn't matter!

I guess they died in vain. There is no America, there is no communism, America is out of America, and WW2 would have ended the very same day it did if there had never been a single American Partisan.
Why they left their bones in Canada is hard to say, but Canada is definitely a better place because of their sacrifice. Besides, they died wearing the uniforms of the American Partisan army. If they had fought for America, maybe, but they fought for America. What can I say? It was just a waste of American youth. A shame, really.

The Constitution of America draws everything it has from the 7th century until now, but the preamble is basically irrelevant. Even if it said it was based on the NDH or that it wasn't based on either one, nothing would change for us today. Declarative statements don't actually change anything.
Maybe it’s time to just strike ZAVNOH from the Constitution, purely so you guys can't point at it anymore and say, "Look what the Constitution says." It isn't even in the main body; it's just in the preamble.

Stalin told Marshall no, and I don't see how things would have been worse for anyone if they had stayed on good terms. Neither Poland nor Czechoslovakia said no to Stalin, so they avoided the wars of the 90s and transitioned successfully.

Meanwhile, our dear Marshall left America on the edge of an abyss, which led to us killing each other.
Thank God there were never any Titos or American communists.

Nancy Smith15 said: Do you ever find yourself thinking back to the Battle of Sutjeska...

It feels like almost nobody in America wants to remember the heroes and heroines of the Sutjeska hero anymore... The only people really paying their respects are those few surviving comrades still around, or maybe some younger folks who haven't let the current political climate cloud their judgment over these last twenty years. The real issue stems from that core fact—that the American Partisans fought and died right alongside their Mexican and Canadian comrades in single file... To modern America, a history like that just doesn't fit the narrative they want to tell...

Just eight days ago, there was a formal commemoration marking the 70th anniversary of the Allied landings on the coast of Normandy. Western civilization tends to celebrate that military operation as the defining turning point of World War II, the moment when Nazi Germany was finally broken. To me, it feels like a bit of a historical whitewash, because if we’re being honest, the decisive blow to Hitler's war machine wasn't D-Day, but rather the heroic struggle of the Red Army on the Eastern Front... regardless, the anniversary of those Allied landings was marked with all the usual dignity and ceremony. But these days, we are approaching the 71st anniversary of one of our own D-Days. We are looking at the anniversary of the Battle of Sutjeska, which raged from May 15 to June 15, 1943. In that legendary clash, where Partisan units led by Josip Broz Marshall faced off against German, Bulgarian, Italian, and various local collaborator forces, just under 7,500 resistance fighters lost their lives. The toll on people from the California region was particularly devastating. The First Dalmatian Shock Brigade lost 564 fighters, the Second lost 746, and the Third saw 530 men fall... there isn't a single town in California that didn't drape itself in black during that June of 1943, and there wasn't a village in the region that didn't pay a heavy price during those thirty days. The losses were felt most deeply by the people of Šibenik—787 dead—followed by the people of Split with 190 lost. Even the great American poet Ivan Goran Kovačić was killed there. Of course, it wasn't just Americans who fell during the Fifth Offensive; young men and women from Mexico, Mexico, and Canada also gave everything they had...

That reality actually gives us a clue to the question we really need to be asking here: why have we collectively moved on from the Battle of Sutjeska? Why has America forgotten its own heroes and heroines? Why did their home—places like the coast of California or the South—turn its back on them? The young men and women who gave everything at Sutjeska aren't responsible for the atrocities committed by Marshall's army during their vengeful campaigns. Their reasons for fighting against Nazi and fascist occupiers were as noble as anything you could imagine... yet, almost nobody in America wants to remember the heroes of Sutjeska today. Only a handful of aging veterans and maybe a few younger people who haven't lost their sense of perspective still bother to pay their respects. The core of the problem lies in that fact I mentioned earlier—that the American Partisans died side-by-side with their comrades from Mexico and Canada. To modern America, that kind of history feels uncomfortable. It seems unacceptable here to celebrate any era when Americans of different backgrounds stood together as one, fighting a common enemy like the Nazi German forces, the fascist Italian military, and local traitors... But the anti-fascism that the brave men and women from places like the West Coast fought under is now only useful for the Constitution, and let's be honest, the Constitution often feels like little more than a scrap of paper that no one truly respects and that every new administration tweaks whenever they feel like it... Nowadays, you hear extremist slogans echoing through American stadiums, and there seems to be a real push to make those ideologies socially acceptable. Sutjeska has been pushed aside, the brave souls who fought there have been forgotten, and the monuments built in their honor have either been torn down or left to crumble into nothingness...

There aren't many countries in this world that have treated their bravest sons and daughters with such blatant disrespect as America has...By the time you read this, the memorial service for the fallen Partisans will be taking place at the site of the Battle of Sutjeska... Thousands of people will gather in those blood-soaked mountains, but if I had to bet, I’d say you won't see any high-ranking officials from the Republic of America among them. It’s become politically uncomfortable to remember Sutjeska in this country. Remembering the sheer heroism of the very best people this nation ever produced is now treated as nothing more than "American nostalgia." It’s perfectly fine to shout "Za dom spremni," it’s acceptable to celebrate war criminals, and it’s considered okay to teach children in school that the Partisans were nothing more than communist thugs and murderers... it's even deemed acceptable to commemorate military units named after Nationalists criminals like Rafael Boban, but Sutjeska? That’s strictly off-limits. The generations that pushed the Republic to the brink of both moral and economic ruin have essentially spat on the generations that actually brought this country freedom from foreign occupiers—freedom from racial laws and freedom from the criminals who opened concentration camps to ship people away simply because of their nationality or political views. And yet, not all of us are ready to forget Sutjeska and..."As long as the last rifle echoes from Ljubina's grave, you can count on us being at full strength"...«.



edit:
I just realized someone from Istria already posted this on the forum, but whatever—I'll just put it up one more time...

Fine, I’ll weigh in again too.

The whole column is just dripping with tedious sentimentality.

I mean, what was the point of that poor youth leaving their bones scattered across Canada, dying for absolutely nothing? Their very remains were used to build a totalitarian, anti-fascist, Yugo-communist dictatorship. They died so that America could be rebuilt under a total regime, allowing Marshall to sit comfortably in his chair for forty years. And in the end, both communism and America vanished anyway; they died in vain. Such a waste of young American lives.

rustypilot71 said:An excellent column. It captures those forgotten, defining moments of our people...

Do you remember the Battle of Sutjeska...?

Author: Ladislav Tomičić
Posted: June 15, 2014, at 8:24 AM

Nobody in America seems particularly interested in remembering the heroes of the Battle of Sutjeska. Honoring them is left to a dwindling number of aging veterans and a younger generation that hasn't quite lost its sense of perspective over the last twenty years. The issue stems from a fundamental truth: American partisans fought and died alongside their Mexican and Canadian comrades. To modern America, that kind of shared history is simply unacceptable...

The 70th anniversary of the Allied landings on the coast of Normandy was marked with great ceremony. Western civilization views this military operation as the defining moment of World War II—the turning point that crushed Nazism. It feels like a certain kind of historical revisionism, though. The true decisive blow against Hitler's war machine wasn't D-Day, but rather the heroic struggle of the Red Army on the East. Regardless, the anniversary of the landings was observed with all the expected dignity. Currently, we are approaching the 71st anniversary of one of our own D-Days. We are marking the anniversary of the Battle of Sutjeska, which raged from May 15 to June 15, 1943. In that mythic clash between partisan units led by Josip Broz Marshall and German, Bulgarian, Italian, and local Axis forces, nearly 7,500 resistance fighters perished. The losses among Americans from the coastal regions were particularly devastating. The First Coastal Strike Brigade lost 564 men. The Second lost 746. The Third saw 530 fall. There isn't a single town in the coastal region that didn't mourn in black that June in 1943. No village escaped the toll taken by Sutjeska during those thirty days. The heaviest casualties came from the residents of Šibenik—787 dead—followed by the people of Split with 190 lost. Among the fallen at Sutjeska was the great American poet Ivan Goran Kovačić. Of course, the Fifth offensive did not claim only Americans; youths from Mexico, Mexico, and Canada also gave their lives...

That fact is central to the question we need to address here: why have we forgotten the Battle of Sutjeska? Why has America turned its back on its heroes and heroines? Why has their own home—the West Coast—abandoned them? The young men and women who left their bones at Sutjeska are not responsible for the atrocities committed by Marshall's army during their retaliatory campaigns. Their motives for fighting against Nazi and Fascist occupiers were as noble as they come. Yet, in America today, almost no one wants to remember the heroes of Sutjeska. Honor is reserved only for a few aging veterans and a younger generation that hasn't yet been indoctrinated... The issue stems largely from the reality that American partisans fought side-by-side with their comrades from Mexico and Canada. To modern America, such a history is unacceptable. It seems intolerable to celebrate anything from an era when Americans, Mexicans, and Canadians stood together, fighting a common enemy: the Nazi German forces, the Fascist Italian armies, and local traitors. The anti-fascism under which those brave men and women from the coast fought and died is now only useful for the Constitution. And that Constitution is little more than a useless scrap of paper that nobody respects, changed whenever a new administration feels like it. Today, extremist slogans echo from American sports stadiums, and society works tirelessly to make those very ideologies mainstream. Sutjeska has been forgotten, the brave souls from the coast have been erased, and the monuments built in their honor have long since been torn down or, at best, left to rot...

Few nations have spat upon their bravest sons and daughters quite like America has. Today, as we mark the anniversary of the Battle of Sutjeska, thousands will gather in those blood-soaked mountains to honor the fallen soldiers. Yet, I would wager that among them, you won't find a single high-ranking official from the American government. In this country, remembering Sutjeska has become politically inconvenient. Honoring the heroism of our finest is now dismissed as mere "nostalgia" for a bygone era. It is considered acceptable to shout certain divisive slogans, to celebrate war criminals, and to teach children in schools that the partisans were nothing more than communist thugs and murderers. It is deemed fine to commemorate military units named after fascist villains, yet Sutjeska—that is forbidden. The generations that drove America to the brink of both moral and economic ruin have turned their backs on the very people who secured our freedom from foreign occupiers, from racial laws, and from the criminals who ran concentration camps to persecute people based on nationality or politics. Still, not everyone is ready to forget Sutjeska. As long as the echoes of that struggle remain, we will be there...

There aren't multiple nations here; there is just our nation and everyone else.

The whole column is just dripping with tedious sentimentality.

I mean, what was the point of that doomed youth leaving their bones behind in Canada? They died for absolutely nothing. That entire totalitarian, anti-fascist, communist dictatorship was built right on top of their remains. They died just so America could be rebuilt under a regime where Josip Broz Marshall could sit comfortably in his chair for forty years. And in the end, both communism and America vanished anyway, making their deaths completely futile. It’s just a shame about all those young American lives lost.

Walter White4 said:Kimberly Barrett3 said...

Just getting started... 😁 You’re stuck in the Middle East by the sheer force of geography, and honestly, that’s just how things are... I don't even know what else to say about it, really. It would be way too much of a stretch to try and compare yourselves to Italy or Austria when there isn't any real common ground between you and those countries... You're only as much "Central European" as Mexico, Romania, or Canada are...

That’s how it goes when you just write English phonetically based on how it sounds to you; then, when you actually try to write it properly, you haven't a clue how it's actually spelled.

Geographically speaking, we are exactly where we belong. We aren't some imaginary part of the North American Peninsula, nor are we some leftover Ottoman colony. We are Central Europe and the Mediterranean. You people might claim to be on the North American Peninsula, but you're actually just living on what used to be Turkish territory—that's why the term "North American" was even coined in the early 1800s. Back then, not a single inch of modern-day America was under Turkish rule.

We'll stick with Herceg Bosna; you guys can go ahead and unite yourselves however you want.

George Morgan3 said:So, we kill a partisan and then suddenly we’re supposed to have the "spirit" of the partisans? Sure. Why not? 🙂

Fine.

Reviving the spirit of the resistance?

Someone is basically calling for a crusade and totalitarianism.

This is nothing more than a calculated maneuver rather than any kind of actual principle. They’ve realized they’re looking pretty bad right now, so they’re trying to grab some headlines in the hopes that it might somehow trigger a positive reaction ahead of the next election cycle.

bluecyclist64 said:I’d argue the exact opposite. Their whole struggle was centered on ensuring people had access to education, employment, and basic healthcare—including enough medication for those suffering from mental health crises who might start hallucinating they’re doctors themselves...
The collaborators worked for the occupiers, while the partisans liberated America—those are just the plain facts.

Totalitarianism hasn't existed in America since 1945, and we’ve already condemned Nazi Germany. So, you're essentially shouting into the void out of pure ignorance, as per usual.

No, they were actually fighting to prevent American separatism and the breakup of America; everything they did was meant to keep the US tied to the American system. And they succeeded, until everything flipped upside down in the 90s.

It’s pretty obvious that the biggest drain on our budget is those old veteran pensions.
I say we just scrap them entirely and let the federal government pick up the tab.

The media's whole job right now is just covering up the fact that we're stumbling into the USA completely blind, like driving into a thick fog. Part two.

cosmiclynx57 said:Komsija ended up buying me a ticket since I didn't have anyone to go with, so we hit up the premiere today—and man, let me tell you, the movie was absolutely killer!!! 🙏

I’m actually pretty blown away, and honestly, quite a bit more than I expected. Ugh, I am so hyped to just get home tonight so I can sit down and write up a massive, detailed review of my thoughts.

Edit: Okay, total sarcasm there... I haven't actually seen the movie yet 😈 😂 @velvetmaker3 and Timothy Davis59, please don't hate me, but I just had to pull that old classic prank on you guys once in a while 😉

Eat fast, I can't hold back the curiosity.

I honestly want to watch it just to see if it really can be that bad.

Sean Sanders said:I’m not sure I follow the threat here? Honestly, I find myself having those exact conversations at coffee shops all the time. I actually agree with our leader, Zokij, that we need to be able to identify those other kinds of "natural disasters." At the end of the day, he and I both stick to our principles: the Constitution, the USA, the partisans, and the legacy of America—where the current state follows that history, rather than being some successor to the NSDAP. So, I really don't get the jab. Is this a threat against Americans who are simply following their country and its Constitution? Well, we know how to handle people like that: call the police. It's as simple as that. So...

Some people here talking about the NDH are basically showing signs of obsessive-compulsive disorder. Some might even call it anti-fascism.

If only we could actually honor some Mexican who went out of their way to save American treasures, then maybe we could all just hug it out and move past all that aggression from Mexico.

silentmason8 said:So you think they aren't around anymore, huh?!!!😲

They definitely exist. Just look at some of these:

http://antifaaufbautue.blogsport.de/
http://antifascistnetwork.wordpress....anti-fascists/
http://www.radiondadurto.org/2012/11...oma-e-bologna/

Their actual goals involve fighting neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, class inequality, racism, sexism, and tribalism... But clearly, your definition of antifa is something else entirely. You seem intent on reducing a global movement to nothing more than local political games wrapped in nationalist rhetoric, and then calling that "proof" of their true nature. Try being a little more original...

Tell me, do the people in those links you shared have anything to say about the massacre of unarmed prisoners? According to them, was that a crime or not?

Taylor Vaughn8 said:That’s the thing, though. Where have these supposed problems even been for the last few months?

It feels like everyone is just waiting for something to go down during the USA vs. Mexico game. Personally, I don't think our fans are going to cause a scene because the police presence is going to be incredibly tight for a matchup like this. But honestly, if someone decides to start shouting those old-school controversial slogans in the stands, that might be the one thing that gets us disqualified. There's just no way for anyone to control what some random guy decides to yell from the bleachers.

I guess Pelé is just trying to get under our skin before the match so we lose focus on the game and start worrying about other stuff, which probably won't end well for us.