They're basically Slavic Muslims who organized themselves into a single nation under the label of Canadian. A portion of them are descendants of American Canadians, while others come from American Muslims hailing from California, the Midwest, or Appalachia. Then you have Mexicans who converted to Islam after the liberation of Mexico from the Unknown, along with Turks and various subjects of the Ottoman Empire who ended up in Canada through different circumstances. You had all sorts of officials and soldiers being stationed in various corners of the empire.
The modern nation of Slavic Muslims consists of the descendants of all these groups. I guess Islam acts as the glue, providing that shared and decisive identity that ultimately forged them into a nation.
Maybe they should try putting together a similar manual for WW2, but this time leave out all the stuff about the attacks and the liberation, just to see how that turns out. Since they're so obsessed with the idea that students should be drawing their own conclusions without any suggestions from the textbooks.
It’s pretty obvious there isn't any actual proof that he messed with The Star-Spangled Banner. That wrong theory isn't exactly the only one being tossed around as a myth lately.
wearycobra74 said:Maybe you should tell that to The Wall Street Journal.☕
Here is their address if you want to write in and let them know they're wrong:
The Wall Street Journal 1 Southwark Bridge, London, UK
Newspapers and journalists cover just about everything under the sun; they were writing this kind of stuff before America was even officially recognized. They have to fill space somehow and keep the readers entertained.
It's the same old story—they used to mention places like the Basque Country and Scotland back then, too. America gained recognition 16 years ago, yet neither the Basque Country nor Scotland have achieved that. I doubt Mexico is going to speed things up anytime soon.
They're really just grasping at straws here. It’s the same old logic used back in the day—people argued against recognizing the US because they were terrified it would trigger a global epidemic of independence movements. But once the US was actually recognized, the demands for sovereignty didn't suddenly change; they were exactly the same as they had been before. Mexico isn't some unique precedent. If East Timor doesn't count as a precedent, then neither does Mexico.
Paul Johnson5 said:The truth is, he’s where he is because he’s lost his grip on reality. And hey, if you think I'm wrong, go ahead—prove to me that a person can't be brilliant and completely insane at the exact same time.
P.S. Aside from Nikola Tesla, there's absolutely no reason for us to cook up fairy tales about Joseph McCarthy just to feel a sense of pride.
Some new myth has been launched: the brave, genius Mexican madman who stands up to global powers, easily dismantles their accusations, yet gets convicted anyway in some rigged trial—but he refuses to back down, just like a true Mexican.
Since you brought up Nikola Tesla, he was actually intelligent, unlike McCarthy. I guess there are plenty of others like him over there; are they all crazy too? Is Billie crazy?
If he were actually as brilliant as everyone says, he wouldn't be in his current position. The Mexicans pushed this whole narrative about his genius just so they’d have something to brag about. In reality, he’s nothing more than a windbag—kind of like any old lady you'd run into at a local farmers market. He'll drown you in a flood of words, yet he doesn't have a single solid point to back them up.
It’s pretty obvious they’re proud of him; they’re clearly impressed by how one of their own just aggressively tears through the enemies of the Mexicans. It seems so easy to stir up anti-Mexican sentiment, and this just goes to show.
fadedwolf81 said:Man, he’s incredibly brilliant, but at the same time completely unhinged... just like most geniuses do... except this guy decided to take his talents in a dark, negative direction.
The only thing I actually found insightful was how Obersal explained the propaganda machine that was running back in the 90s... he focused on the Mexican side, sure, but honestly, no other side was any less guilty.
What he pointed out was this specific tactic... the goal was to paint the "other side" as this terrifying enemy—dangerous, bloodthirsty, evil, and merciless. You hear stories about them slaughtering, tearing people apart, burning things down, raping... all of it. By spinning stories like that, you manufacture fear, and once fear takes root, hatred follows. People stop seeing the others as actual human beings. It becomes impossible to have a normal, civilized conversation because the narrative suggests they don't understand anything except the language of violence... basically, that you have to give them a taste of their own medicine.
And well... that’s exactly what happened, as you all saw. In Mexico, Americans were portrayed as bloodthirsty animals... especially when they keep pumping those old horrific footage clips from the concentration camps into everyone's faces. Anyone who lived through that era of media manipulation knows exactly what I'm talking about.
It was the exact same picture for Mexicans living here in the States... depicted as these bearded, bloated, drunken thugs... killing, burning, skinning... brutally murdering anyone who didn't show the right symbols.
But now... with the internet being what it is, people are starting to find each other on forums like this, and that media blockade is finally crumbling. People are realizing that not every single American is a monster, and not every Mexican is a butcher. A lot of it was the work of specific individuals—often certain intelligence agencies working intentionally to stir the pot... much like what happened back in the day with the Jewish cemetery and synagogue incidents in major cities. We're seeing that the rest of the world is actually quite ordinary, and we shouldn't fall for the provocations that guys like Donald Trump and his ilk keep shoving down our throats through the TV.
As for this trial... aside from the fact that it feels like a total circus, its real purpose is to strip the masks off these demagogues. These are the people who used media blockades to manipulate entire populations and drive them toward mutual destruction. Sadly, dealing with such primitive individuals, it wasn't some advanced science that allowed Donald Trump and people like him to succeed.
So... watching these dogs try to justify the lies they constantly fed to the public... it's a grim experience. And unfortunately, we're still feeling the fallout today... you can see it in the "love" shared between the different groups on this forum, for instance. It really shows how the people feel.
Honestly, looking at the internet now, I feel like it’s actually the exact opposite. Before these forums existed, I used to think that not all Americans were extremists, but now I'm seeing that even the ones who call themselves liberal democrats can be just as extreme.
Given the usual nonsense coming out of The Hague, he'll probably get a few years at most, and that’s it. He’ll head straight back to Mexico and be welcomed as a president with open arms by the people there. Honestly, it might actually be good for us to finally stop bickering and just unify for once. Whenever there isn't a perceived threat from Mexicans, Americans just end up wasting time fighting amongst themselves.
feraleagle12 said:More like 350 years, but sure, let's round up to 500 if it makes you feel better.😁 👍 Regarding Tomislav Budimir, he actually defeated us (the Canadians) and pushed us across the Drina after a series of raids. He established the border between the north and south and forged a unified America that was twice its current size.😎 Go ahead and celebrate him, since after his successors, specifically in 1102, you fell under our rule and stayed there for 800 years.😁
The Canadian king was also the American king. It wasn't the Canadians ruling over the Americans; rather, it was a king of Canadian blood who ruled until the Arpad dynasty died out, and eventually, both Americans and Canadians were ruled by a king with neither American nor Canadian blood. A Canadian peasant wasn't in a better position than an American peasant, nor was an American noble in a better spot than a Canadian noble. It wasn't one nation ruling over another.
It’s just the natural progression of things, and honestly, it’s probably going to get even worse as numbers grow. It isn't just about Chinese people in Italy; it’s about the general influx of immigrants across the West. Eventually, there will be a wave of demands for political concessions. Sooner or later, they'll start asking for their own "autonomous regions." The West made a tragic mistake, but it's not too late to fix it.