Paul Jones7 said:I mean, based on your absolute certainty that angels aren't real—unless you view them as some abstract force—it seems a bit off. Experiences from all over the place suggest there’s a spiritual plane of existence where these things are actual living beings.
The thing is, you won't find any living truth tucked away in dead letters or old scripts; you can only find life through something that's actually alive—I guess that's just common sense, really. And when it comes to connecting with the living (starting with your own self, anyway), there isn't some single, universally superior method. Plus, when you start claiming these "truths" about angels—which, honestly, experience tends to debunk—it starts feeling a bit like gatekeeping or being exclusionary. I don't think you're quite at the level where you can judge that yet.
Who on earth said that this "force" isn't alive? Of course it acts on a spiritual level! And look, I already told you that it can even manifest in an anthropomorphic way for some people. It’s not like I ever claimed angels don't exist in the first place. You're seriously trying to put words in my mouth by implying these "forces" aren't living beings, which just tells me you're twisting my arguments to suit your own agenda—and honestly, you're doing a pretty clumsy job of it. 😍
Quincy:
| You aren't going to find any kind of real truth just staring at some dead, dusty ink on a page; you have to actually go out and live if you want to find anything worth having, and honestly, that's something you really ought to wrap your head around. |
Oh my god, here we go again with the wrong assumptions... honestly, it might have been a lot smarter if you’d actually bothered to ask me how I operate before charging in like a bull in a china shop. Why on earth do you assume you have even the slightest clue what I’m doing? When it comes to Kabbalah, from what I can see, you haven't got a single clue beyond those totally fabricated, twisted, and arbitrary theories you've cooked up. I find it incredibly bold of you to try and lecture me on what I should or shouldn't be doing based solely on that—especially regarding Kabbalah. By the way, all those "mystical beings" you think are just some vague nonsense were actually encountered firsthand by Kabbalists who recorded their true names, which are the very ones you're using now. I'm certain you didn't realize that...
Quincy:
| Look, there’s no magic bullet or one-size-fits-all manual for actually connecting with the living world—and honestly, if you can't even figure out how to check in with your own damn self first, you're already lost. |
Look, that’s just your personal take, not some universal truth that everyone's forced to swallow, so you can go ahead and keep that opinion all to yourself if you want!
Quincy:
| When you start throwing around those "universal truths" that everyone knows are totally debunked by actual experience, you’re basically just being elitist and playing games. Honestly, you aren't even in a position to be making those kinds of judgments. |
It’s not even an abuse of power, honestly!
I can't even begin to deal with this nonsense right now because honestly, I am just completely over it!It’s just straight-up manipulation at this point! You haven't actually denied a single thing, let alone had the nerve to try and dismiss someone else's lived experience as some kind of lie—well, newsflash, those "alleged experiences" you're trying to brush off? That was me!
He finally went and installed it! Look, I’m going to say this one more time because apparently, it didn't sink in the first time, and if you actually bothered to read what I wrote, you'd see I already laid it all out plain as day!
When people start preaching about "authenticity" or what's considered the "truth," I honestly think it’s all just subjective nonsense because everyone’s just going to judge things based on their own biased perspective, which is completely arbitrary and doesn't actually prove a damn thing. If you want something you can actually bank on, you have to rely on your own direct, firsthand experience—anything else is just guesswork.
I honestly can't even begin to wrap my head around how people act when they think they have some specific, certain authority over a situation, because it’s just absolute madness! It’s all about the level of truth, isn't it? Honestly, people just toss facts around like they're nothing, and it drives me absolutely insane!
Look, if you’re one of those people who thinks spiritual beings are just little winged characters with cute personalities hovering around to protect you, then by all means, go right ahead—you’ve got a wide lane to drive in, and I’m not here to start a fight over your fairy tales. But let’s get one thing straight: I am talking about the specific angelic forces found in Kabbalah, and since my entire purpose on this forum has been to express a strictly Kabbalistic perspective, you can either read it or don't. If you don't like what I have to say, stop reading, but if you actually want to debate the real stuff, bring it on—I'd honestly love that. 😍
If you’re just looking to talk down to people or act like you're some kind of superior authority—which, let's be honest, includes all that condescending patronizing nonsense—then you better be ready for the exact same energy coming right back at you.