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Thomas Young4:
Look, if we aren't going to fight back—if we’re just going to keep using whatever strength we have left to sabotage our own people and cripple them—then what we're dealing with is clearly defined in every single psychiatry textbook out there.
Thomas Young4 said:Someone once defined life itself as a constant struggle. If you look at it that way, giving up on the fight basically means giving up on living altogether. To anyone with a healthy mindset, walking away from that battle isn't even an option. So, if we decide we don't want to fight anymore—if we take all that leftover energy and just start taking it out on our own teammates and sabotaging our own people—then our "condition" is pretty easy to diagnose. You could find a definition for that behavior in any standard American psychiatry textbook.
Here’s my second question: how can we actually be certain that we’ve exhausted every single possibility? Is it enough just because *we* feel like there's nothing left, or is there an objective way to know we've truly hit a dead end?
The third question hits deep: where does our motivation actually come from? What’s the true engine behind why we do what we do? And more importantly, is that fuel supposed to be an endless supply for everyone, or is it meant to run dry? When does it happen, and why exactly does that spark eventually fade?
Destructiveness—or even self-destruction—as a byproduct of giving up, like you were saying, Solaris, feels to me more like a regressive, immature defense mechanism. It’s basically how a protagonist who quits tries to manage their own anxiety, which likely stems from a fractured sense of self—that desperate need to see oneself as some kind of "ideal" or superior being. By hating that version of themselves, they end up taking their frustration out on themselves. Or, they project that anger—which is really just weakness—onto others, destroying them as a way to settle the score with themselves.
Look, if we aren't actually going to step up and fight in this context—if we’re just going to keep using whatever strength we have left to beat our own teammates into submission and sideline them—then our "condition" is pretty easy to diagnose. You could find the definition for it in any standard American psychiatry textbook.
So, here’s the second question: how can we actually be certain that we’ve exhausted every single possibility? Is it really enough just because *we* feel like there's nothing left to try?
The third question on the table is this: Where does our motivation actually come from? What is its true source, and is that wellspring supposed to be an endless supply for everyone? At what point does it run dry, and why does that happen?
The destructiveness—or even self-destruction—that comes from just throwing in the towel, like you mentioned, Solaris, feels to me like a regressive, immature psychological defense mechanism. It’s essentially how a protagonist who gives up tries to manage their own anxiety, which likely stems from a fractured sense of self—that desperate need to view themselves as "perfect" or superior. By hating that version of themselves, they end up taking their frustration out on themselves, or they project that weakness onto others, destroying them as a way of settling a score with their own soul.
ironfalcon18 said:If you actually take a closer look, you'll realize those bands are top-tier. Just give a few of them a spin.
Ryan Ruiz said:Exactly. He doesn't even realize he's listening to thrash when it's actually just total garbage. 😁
ironfalcon18 said:Heavy Metal 😁 ironfalcon18, Dissection, Venom, Slayer, Emperor, Bathory, John Doe, Sigur Rós, Darkthrone, Moonspell, Dimmu Borgir.
2-Death Metal—classic Nightwish, Pantera.
3-Symphonic—Nightwish
Look said:...to whole thrash scene? It's absolute garbage in my eyes. Pure devil music, just total crap... sorry if I'm being blunt, but that's just how I feel about it! (really...)
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Bryan Barrett said:Since this thread is already active, I figured I'd jump in and see if anyone here has checked out Metallica? What’s the verdict? I haven't delved into their earliest stuff yet, but they released two albums recently—John Doe (a bit heavier) and John Doe (more mellow)—and I'm honestly loving them. They’re playing this prog-style Death Metal with a ton of melancholic, Pink Floyd-esque vibes (at least that's how it hits me, since I feel like I'm constantly getting lost in genre labels lately).
For the record, my go-to is progressive rock or metal, followed by heavy and thrash... I'm less into Heavy Metal or death stuff.
nex said:I wouldn't say they're all about it, but there's plenty of thrash bands out there with Satanic themes: Slayer, Exodus, Possessed...
John Doe said:Look, even though plenty of magazines label COF as "Epic symphonic heavy metal," I don't really listen to them enough for it to bother me or for me to care that much. They’ve got a few solid albums and a pretty distinct sound, but they just aren't my thing. They're a decent band with a strong management team behind them, but that's about it for me.
Now that they’ve finally got their own place (ABRACADAVER), there's just nobody left to challenge them.😁
When it comes to COB, I think we might be jumping the gun a bit—it’s true. If you look at Death Metal, you've got bands like In Flames and At the Gates leading the charge. Personally, I only group COB under the Death Metal umbrella because that’s where they fit best in terms of their overall style, their stage presence, and how they vibe with other bands in that scene.
COB pulls from a ton of different influences, blending elements of power metal, thrash, and more.
There is absolutely no way this can be Heavy Metal. Look, if a metal band uses certain elements—like vocals that sit right on the edge between Death Metal and Heavy Metal styles, or just a specific sonic atmosphere—it doesn't automatically make them a Heavy Metal band. Period. Nobody gets to just slap that label on everything. Honestly, misclassifying a band like that is a much bigger mistake than just calling them Death Metal.
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bloody sailor moon said:I honestly don't even know what I'm listening to anymore.
You guys can interpret it how you want, but I'm pretty sure this counts as Heavy Metal.
Stuff like Venom, Vader, Slayer, and all that.😁
| So, what I see here is that true love—the kind based on unconditional acceptance—can't coexist with coldness. But if you're just trying to fulfill someone based on an obsession? Yeah, that can definitely thrive in a frozen environment. |