Posts by Brenda Gonzalez12

stormyrider28 said:Oh, give me a break... now suddenly you care about when everything was deleted? Why didn't you bother asking while the posts containing your actual values were still up??? Now that they're gone, you're playing the victim.

So, let me get this straight: you spout some nonsense or a flat-out lie, and I just "forgot" to call you out on it? And then, when I ask you to actually prove what you're saying and you can't, somehow IT'S MY FAULT? 😁 🤦 😵
What am I supposed to do? Just write exactly what you want me to say so it fits your narrative? Is everyone here losing their minds? 🤦 🤦 Man, you have totally lost it... seriously, read back what you're even typing. You're so blinded by rage that you don't even realize you're talking nonsense anymore. 😁

stormyrider28 said:But when you were insulting the forum members in the nastiest ways possible you didn't exactly ask us to link back to those disgusting insults, did you?

Honestly, I think you're having a bit of a struggle with basic logic. Where exactly did I insult the members so "disgustingly," and why on earth would I be the one asking for links to my own insults? Look, if you're going to make such a ridiculous claim, you should be the one providing the proof, right? Otherwise, it's just more of the same—just another one of your pathetic little lies. You are completely lost, stormyrider28. Totally...

stormyrider28 said:I see Elizabeth Jackson posted a whole bunch of your insults so everyone can see what kind of person you really are. Do you have anything to say for yourself?

Well, yeah! She was kind enough to provide links showing exactly what was said and how it was said. Using the actual words, not your versions or Napa's made-up stories and paraphrasing. And maybe ask yourself why she posted them? And why are you trolling this thread right now?
And also, if she supposedly put me on "ignore"—just like how you, Napa, Jamie Rivera78, YOU and a few others put me on "ignore"—then for heaven's sake, why are you all reading my posts, replying to them, and swarming this thread like a pack of wild animals? You guys jump on every single syllable the second it appears. Want me to explain why? Or maybe it's better if I don't stoop down to your level. This thread is about something else entirely.

stormyrider28 said:And it’s that very same Elizabeth Jackson you apparently loathe and persecute, whom you seem totally obsessed with.

To your disappointment, his writing shows the exact opposite. He’s actually furious, miserable, and obsessed—he’d probably rather scream at the top of his lungs because he can't get his way. He wants to turn this place into his own private playground where he can say whatever he wants, while anyone who dares to ask a question under the guise of "trolling" gets slapped with an immediate ban. It's all done with his own help or by someone just like him (or maybe even a clone!) acting as a moderator. That’s why he keeps volunteering for the job, or trying to push Gregory Ramirez2 into it. But they tried to let them "show their true colors" by doing things their own way, and now the whole plan has fallen apart. That's why he's so livid! Like you said, he's "obsessed," which is why he insults people, baits the mods, the super-mods, Anderlon, and even God Himself. He just wants to ban me and anyone else who ever mentioned him, questioned him, or even commented on him, effectively kicking us out for good. Sadly, that's just the kind of guy he is. He is definitely not the person he pretends to be.

stormyrider28 said:It looks like he has completely taken control over you and that everything he writes deeply upsets you, even though he doesn't even notice you.

Oh, he has absolutely "taken control"... I mean, if he’s so powerful and so confident in his vast knowledge, why doesn't he just start a brand new thread similar to this one? Or maybe it stings because others have realized that the "authors" behind the texts he cites are nothing but charlatans, frauds, manipulators, and snake oil salesmen—sorry, I meant book and article peddlers—targeting naive people and desperate souls looking for any way out. They make a killing off it, and I really wonder if he takes a cut of that too. Or maybe he's just terrified that he might end up in the same position as the people he tries to target, given his own questionable track record.
But honestly, it feels like you're getting caught up in the same nonsense, so maybe you're a little obsessed too? Huh?

stormyrider28 said:You're just a pathetic loser, the likes of which this forum has never seen. And as for calling me a troll, well, there isn't a bigger troll on this entire forum than you. You just show up here to insult people who know a hundred times more than you do and keep dragging every single topic back to your personal vendettas against people you'll never be on the level of.

Wahhh, wahhh, wahhh, but your little gun isn't any bigger than mine, wahhh...😁 🤦 Wipe those tears away, it's going to be okay... 🙂
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, but honestly, it just feels like you’re running out of actual arguments to bring to the table. Looking back at your last hundred posts, it's pretty clear where your "expertise" lies! It seems like you haven't quite mastered the art of a good debate or even how to pull off a classy, civil troll within the thread—which is kind of ironic, since that seems to be your whole vibe here.

fadedgull42 said:I’m stepping in to help my buddy stormyrider28 out here, because I really don't want him getting stuck in a situation where some random forum regular tries to convince him that his post was totally made up!

Haha, it’s honestly hilarious watching some people juggle a few different profiles! They’ll pop in to lurk for a bit, then suddenly jump back in to comment from one account, then switch over to another like they're playing a game of musical chairs. It's such a funny little dance! 😵😵

Wait, is this one of those controversial posts? Let me know if I'm stepping into a debate here!
Sporni post 1: Wait, hold on! You’re seriously accusing me of calling four of our fellow forum members murderers? That is such a wild stretch!
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Controversial Post 2: Wait, hold on a second! You're actually accusing me of calling you a murderer? That is definitely not what happened!
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Disputed Post 3: So, you’re actually accusing me of saying that snacking on sardines and washing them down with milk is what raw vegans choose? Oh my gosh, come on! That is such a wild reach! I definitely didn't say that, though I love how much energy you're putting into misinterpreting me. Honestly, if I were going to make a joke like that, I'd probably be a little more subtle about it!
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And honestly, this one too—where you're pointing fingers at someone for something that wasn't even written in the first place!👎 Seriously, fadedgull42, how much longer are you going to keep this up? 🙂

Honestly, it feels like you’re just spinning tales and playing games at this point. You start picking fights because you don't have any actual facts or logic to back you up once someone points out the obvious: raw food and veganism aren't some magic cure-all for cancer—especially when there isn't a shred of clinical evidence to prove it! Plus, we actually have a specific thread dedicated to discussing raw diets, yet here you are, turning it into a personal attack. It's pure ad hominem. And don't even get me started on stormyrider28. Looking at their history, they've posted 150 times, and somehow 80 of those are nothing but off-topic nonsense and personal insults. It really makes me wonder who's pulling the strings behind that account and what their actual goal is. I can tell you one thing, though: it definitely isn't to promote helpful discussions about alternative medicine!

That’s exactly why we need a neutral moderator stepping in here—someone who can jump in and address these kinds of outbursts regardless of what the topic actually is. It shouldn't be about the subject matter at all; it should just be about making sure everyone is playing by the rules of the forum and sticking to the guidelines. If we keep the behavior in check, I truly believe the discussions will naturally settle into their own lanes based on whatever people are actually interested in!

@bluemason3/">@@bluemason3 Hahaha! You’re going to cook up such a massive mess that we’ll end up with 3,500 posts a day just to keep up with all the moderation! 😁 😁

stormyrider28 said:Brenda Gonzalez12, honestly, you’re becoming a total drag with this constant crusade against Elizabeth Jackson and Bonecrusher. You just can't seem to move on! If we're talking about breaking rules, you're actually the one leading the pack. We all saw how rudely you treated people in that cancer treatment thread, especially Elizabeth Jackson. Calling people morons, idiots, weaklings, jerks, and losers? And then there was that comment to fadedgull42 about her being ready for you... aren't you embarrassed to even speak? You only show up to these threads to pick fights and bicker, making you the definition of off-topic. I have never seen such blatant insults on this forum before; in fact, that whole cancer treatment thread had to be shut down specifically because of your behavior. It’s no wonder everyone just ignores you.

From what I recall, you were the one preaching about the "ignore" button too, but since you love lying and exaggerating so much, I guess you don't follow your own advice either.

Come on, please, just give me a link showing where I ever said that about fadedgull42? I'm genuinely curious. 🙂
Look, if you're so worked up over her, why not send her a private message or meet her in a chat room? Start a new thread on the US, LJES, or ŽuD boards. Just be a man for once—don't be such a coward and a pathetic little thing... you don't need all this nonsense. Show me where I actually wrote what you're accusing me of, you troll. 🤔

Or should I start filing formal reports? Because just like fadedgull42, you seem to love putting nasty words and weird fantasies into other people's mouths. Maybe I should, huh?

On Elizabeth Jackson said:

-> breaking US laws (practicing medicine without a license)
-> violating generally accepted civilized norms (healthcare is both a civilized and a CONSTITUTIONAL norm and right)
-> harassment based on any grounds whatsoever (race, nationality, religion, age, gender...) - (calling people "scavengers," "poisoners," "idiots," "mercenaries," or things like that)
-> swearing, flaming, or spamming (repeating the same or similar posts) - just as an example: you've already copied this exact same post three times about "talking to a nurse who worked for 35 years and was supposedly 'shocked' for all 35 of them," or constantly reposting those five identical texts about cancer treatment methods... which have been proven unscientific.
-> advertising (anything not approved by the Marketing Forum) - specifically pages that directly promote selling books and magazines on certain topics, or promote all sorts of pseudo-experts who make a living off it
-> chatted outside of the designated chat threads -(do I even need to list out sets of posts by topic?)
-> trolling (writing mocking, offensive messages just to intentionally annoy other participants, provoke arguments, and disrupt the flow of discussion) - let's just start with this very post right here
-> going off-topic - you only have to look at the thread about cancer treatment where, under the guise of healing, they exclusively promote raw veganism, without any actual evidence of its success.
-> harassing other users (commenting on someone else's posts while pretending to use an "ignore" list)
-> SHOUTING (USING CAPS LOCK) - it's just as bad as coloring parts of the text in different colors.
-> playing dumb - which includes everything mentioned above, plus just ignoring posts entirely.

Anyway, that's what happens when people start pointing fingers....

And this is supposed to be a thread where we talk about other stuff altogether....☕

Peter Peterson said:So, what's your brilliant alternative for fixing modern science and curing cancer then?

You'll just end up totally burned out, losing your hair and teeth, and then you'll kick the bucket just like the 99% of people who tried that exact same thing.
Maybe that'll work?

Actually, that’s just wrong, because the official cure rate is sitting right around 40%. I'm talking hard numbers here. So, if eating kale or beets gives you a 1% shot, and this gives you 40%, which path actually gives you a better fighting chance???

Peter Peterson said:"And besides, you can't really blame someone for calling you an idiot," when you're out there promoting methods that have been proven ineffective a billion times over.

It's definitely more effective than a method where you only have a 1% chance. If the guy pushing a 40% success rate is an idiot, then what does that make the person throwing away that extra 39% chance?
Bless their hearts, the uninformed... 😵😵🍿

Ethan Barrett22 said:It seems like we’re all on the same page here—we really need to stick to the forum rules and keep things respectful! It seems like they’re applying them all equally across the board!

As that guy was saying just a little while back:
I have to admit, I might be overthinking this one! But honestly, looking at the sheer amount of data we’re dealing with, it’s hard not to get a little carried away. I was just sitting here thinking about how much easier things would be if we could just automate the whole process, but instead, we’re stuck in the trenches doing the heavy lifting ourselves. Anyway, I saw what Jerry White29 mentioned earlier, and I think he’s onto something important there. It really changes the perspective when you look at it from that angle. I’m still trying to wrap my head around all the moving parts, though—it feels a bit like trying to assemble a massive LEGO set without the instruction manual! But hey, that's half the fun, right? Even if I end up tripping over my own feet a few times along the way, I'm genuinely excited to see where this goes. Let's keep pushing forward!

I’m totally on board with what Benny suggested—it really makes sense that the people moderating the PDF section should be fellow forum members who actually know their way around the alternative scene! Who else out there is actually taking a beat to think for themselves and living a more intentional, alternative lifestyle? I honestly feel like people exactly like that... Honestly, I think they did an absolutely stellar job with the moderation! Seriously, hands down the best crew we could have asked for. Honestly, you could actually step up and join the conversation with some real substance! Since they actually know their stuff, they’ll be much better equipped to keep an eye on everything happening around this subforum!

Of course! I mean, isn't that just the way things go? It’s almost funny how predictable it can be sometimes, right? Honestly, I was sitting here thinking about it earlier, and it really hit me—it’s like we all expect these little hiccups to happen, yet we're still surprised every single time. I know I am! I'm definitely my own worst enemy when it comes to expecting the smoothest possible path, only to have a tiny bump throw me for a loop. But hey, that's life, I guess! We roll with it, laugh at ourselves a little, and keep moving forward. It's all part of the ride! It doesn't have to be unconditional! Hey everyone! I was just thinking about that mod on Alternative—has anyone else been playing around with it lately? I’d love to hear your thoughts! So, I’ve been thinking lately... what does it actually mean to be an "alternative" person? You know, that whole subculture vibe where you're just trying to march to the beat of your own drum and stay away from the mainstream crowd? It’s funny how much effort goes into trying to be different! Sometimes I feel like I’m working harder at being unconventional than most people work at being "normal," which is kind of hilarious if you think about it. But honestly, there's something really refreshing about carving out your own lane, even if it feels a little awkward or lonely sometimes. It’s all about finding those niche interests and people who just *get* it, right?It’s true, but then again... Honestly, I just can't wrap my head around this—it makes absolutely zero sense!Oh, man, I really hope that's the case! Fingers crossed! You know, I was just sitting here thinking about those people who hold views that are basically the polar opposite of everyone else's—people whose entire worldview is diametrically opposed to any kind of alternative. It’s such a fascinating, if slightly exhausting, phenomenon to observe! Because that would basically put him right in the middle of it! It honestly feels like they were just creating a massive conflict of interest and doing nothing but stalling the whole PDF process.

And then it just started flowing out of him... nothing but pure objectivity and a really great, big-picture perspective on all those differing viewpoints.
I honestly think you guys would all agree with me on this one: if we’re having a deep dive into a thread about BBQ or anything related to eating meat, it would be absolute peak absurdity to have a moderator running the show who’s been a hardcore vegetarian for twenty years and can't even stand the sight of a steak!
I honestly think that... Not a single one of them is normal! Honestly, I wouldn’t even dream of trying to moderate a PDF like that! And even if someone actually tried? It would almost certainly be a total disaster. I’d probably end up using that in the most typical American way possible! Hey there! How's it going? A golden opportunity to throw a wrench in the works! "The part he just can't wrap his head around."

And then, just when you thought the debate couldn't get any more interesting, another "candidate for moderator" decided to jump right into the fray!

Honestly, I’ve been sitting here thinking about this for a while, and I really feel like we need to look at the bigger picture here. It’s easy to get caught up in the small stuff, but if you step back, the logic just isn't adding up. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm definitely not an expert—I'll be the first to admit I can be a bit slow on the uptake sometimes!—but even I can see that the current approach seems a little misguided. I was actually reading some thoughts from Jerry White29 earlier, and while I appreciate the enthusiasm, I think there's a massive hole in that argument. You can't just ignore the economic realities of how things work in America. We have to consider the actual impact on the average person living in a place like Chicago or Houston, not just theoretical models. And let’s be real, Peter Peterson makes some points that sound good on paper, but when you apply them to a real-world scenario, they just fall apart. It’s like trying to build a house on sand; you might get the frame up, but it’s not going to stand the test of time. I really want us to have a constructive conversation here. Let’s try to move past the knee-jerk reactions and actually dig into the "why" behind these decisions. I know I can be a bit wordy when I get excited about a topic (guilty as charged!), but I truly believe that if we take a moment to breathe and analyze this properly, we'll come to a much better conclusion. What do you guys all think? Am I totally off base here, or am I onto something?

I honestly think I might be losing my mind a little bit here! I’ve been staring at this for ages, and I just can't shake the feeling that I'm missing something obvious. It’s one of those situations where you feel like you're overthinking everything, but then you realize there really isn't much else to do but dive in headfirst. I was reading what Jerry White29 mentioned earlier, and it actually made a lot of sense once I sat with it for a minute. He’s got a point about how we approach these things—sometimes we get so caught up in the technicalities that we forget the big picture. Even Peter Peterson chimed in with a perspective that I hadn't considered, which was a huge help because I was definitely stuck in my own little bubble. Does anyone else feel this way? Like, am I just being overly cautious, or is there some legitimate reason to be a bit skeptical here? I’d love to hear if anyone else has run into this kind of roadblock before. I’m all ears!

Oh boy, here we go... Honestly, it’s pretty wild to me. You see these people who can't even hold their own in a basic debate without hiding behind an ignore list, and suddenly they think they should be stepping up as moderators to play the role of the "objective" authority figure. Is that really the grand plan? Because if you ask me, I can already see exactly how their version of "moderation" would play out. They wouldn't actually be managing the community at all; they’d just be banning anyone who doesn't jump through their hoops or participate in the discussion exactly the way they want it to go. It’s not moderation—it’s just silencing anyone who thinks differently! 🍿😵 Let me be crystal clear about this: if you want the truth, here it is—that is their one and only goal. That’s their entire intention, plain and simple!

Ethan Barrett22 said:Honestly, I don't really have much to say when it comes to homosexuality; it’s just not a topic that really crosses my radar or anything I find myself gravitating toward.

Oh, come on, you’re totally just lurking and pretending you don't care about what's happening on this whole forum! I mean, let's be real—if you weren't keeping an eye on everything, there's no way you'd even know what we're all talking about over there. But hey, thanks so much for sharing that little insight with us. Seriously, if you hadn't stepped up, I honestly don't know how the rest of us would have survived another day on this planet!

Justin Gray81 said:Just a quick second...Hey everyone! Quick question—did anyone else happen to get a random phone call just now? I was sitting here minding my own business when my phone started buzzing, and now I'm wondering if it was just me or if there's some widespread spam wave hitting everyone today! So, are you guys actually the ones calling the shots on who’s going to be the PDF moderator?

You want to talk to me about objectivity and competence? Seriously, just take a quick look at the front page. This is Reddit, after all—everyone has the right to comment, even if the site owners ultimately hold the reins. Every single person here has the right to weigh in, whether you’ve posted once or a thousand times. You can critique the moderators, debate the threads, or challenge specific viewpoints. More importantly, everyone is entitled to share their own opinion and actually DEFEND their stance! But honestly, show me one person from your "alternative" crowd who has actually stepped up to defend a specific diet or treatment method with real substance. Just saying "it's common knowledge," "many people say," "thousands believe," or "it's just what's normal" isn't an argument, and it sure as heck isn't a defense of a position. I’d have thought that was pretty basic common sense if you've had any formal education at all! ☕

Justin Gray81 said:Do you actually feel like you have the authority to make those calls? And more importantly, do you *really* want that kind of power? Now, I’ve seen this question pop up a few times lately, and honestly, it always gets me thinking! When we talk about who is actually "objective," aren't we all just chasing a bit of a ghost? In my experience, true objectivity is pretty much a myth. We all walk around with our own little set of biases, shaped by where we grew up, what we read, and even the coffee we drink in the morning! Even when someone tries to be super fair and balanced, their own perspective is always going to sneak in there somewhere. It’s like trying to look at a painting without noticing the frame—you just can't help but see the whole context. I’d love to hear what you guys think, though! Do you believe anyone can truly step outside of themselves to see the world exactly as it is, or are we all just seeing things through our own unique lenses? Let's get a discussion going!And honestly, who wouldn't? Alright, let’s dive into a topic that I honestly think most of you couldn't care less about!.

Are you actually competent? And what about these other "experts" floating around here? What exactly makes them qualified? Just because they have an interest in a topic? Look, I can be fascinated by neurosurgery, but that doesn't mean I'm stepping into an OR. I can be obsessed with nuclear physics, too, but I’m certainly not running experiments with radioactive isotopes in my garage! By what metric is one person here supposedly more competent than another? And honestly, who gave you the right to decide that I don't care? I have plenty of interests, believe me. But the sheer level of idiocy being peddled on this platform... frankly, the only people who could find this stuff interesting are those who seemingly have nothing else left in their lives to occupy them.
And who exactly defines being objective? To me, an objective moderator is simply someone who respects the rules of the subreddit and the official guidelines. Period. They shouldn't be playing favorites or leaning toward one side of an argument, nor should they be jumping into discussions just to "steer" the conversation or hand out penalties to anyone they deem "disobedient." That’s the bottom line! Objectively speaking... Approach. Honestly, how many threads have been shut down for this exact reason already? It feels like some of these self-appointed "quasi-moderators" and "experts" on here are just being way too loud and clear about wanting to... Man, they went ahead and banned absolutely everyone! Seriously, does anyone actually avoid using the word "alternative" these days? I mean, what does that even imply anymore? Is it "alternative" if I suggest following Ethan Brooks59’s method—you know, the one where you eat your morning crap to cure stomach cancer? Does that suddenly make it an "alternative" way of writing? Look, this is a Reddit thread! We’re supposed to have the freedom to write, share ideas, and exchange perspectives. But by those ridiculous standards, someone could claim their approach is "alternative" just because a "huge crowd" of people supposedly "got cured" that way. Oh, really? There’s no actual data to back it up, but hey, "everyone knows" it works, right? That’s how it goes. That’s exactly how these arguments look.

Justin Gray81 said:It looks like you only provided the name "Ali." Since there is no body text to rewrite, I don't have any content to transform into a unique, US-based post! Please provide the full text you would like me to re-craft, and I will get to work immediately—keeping that upbeat, detailed, and conversational voice while ensuring everything is perfectly localized for an American audience. It looks like you might have sent an incomplete message! I’m all ears and ready to dive into whatever you’ve got on your mind. Whether you want to vent about something, share a crazy story, or just need a second opinion on a project, I'm here for it. Just let me know what's up! I’ve gotta say, I am genuinely fascinated by how much people just love to tear each other down and throw insults around! It’s wild, isn't it? All of us! That’s exactly how our minds work! It's funny how we all tend to fall into those same patterns of thought, isn't it?

Justin Gray81 said:Just imagine if we decided to jump into threads about conventional medicine and spent months just insulting everyone who actually posts something coherent there. We’d tell them they’re clueless, pathetic, uneducated, or just plain idiots—basically using all those lovely little labels you guys love to toss around at us...

Go ahead! Is anyone stopping you? If you actually had the expertise, feel free to challenge every conventional method out there. But let's be real: you don't have the knowledge, you don't have the evidence, you don't have the results, and you definitely don't have the facts to back it up. That’s why you know deep down you wouldn't last an hour in those circles. You’d get torn apart and probably banned immediately. If you actually brought a solid argument to the table, nobody would say a word against you. In fact, you might even be welcomed as a "second opinion."

Justin Gray81 said:And the best part is, absolutely no one gets even a warning for it.🤣
Then we’re supposed to start meddling in how things are moderated and demand that none of the people posting there can be mods because, heaven forbid, they aren't "objective."

So what’s the alternative then??? Are you suggesting a moderator shouldn't be objective? What else should they be? Give me a break. If you want total freedom to say whatever you want without any oversight, just go start your own blog.

Justin Gray81 said:You guys are so transparently pathetic, it's unbelievable. But fine. Given your mindset, it's pretty obvious that you aren't aware of yourselves. Everything you're doing and the way you're doing it tells us everything we need to know about you.

To your own disappointment, what you just said actually describes you perfectly. It shows that you are exactly that type of person, and now YOU are the one being insulting (even while complaining about others being insulted), calling for the very thing you're currently doing, just in a much more intense way.

Justin Gray81 said:I really hope everyone out there is finding their lives a whole lot more fulfilling this way—it’s such a great feeling when you finally stumble upon your true purpose in life! 🙂

Honestly, life must be pretty bleak for anyone who thinks finding fulfillment in a group of characters like this is their ultimate goal. I mean, some people here actually have real lives outside the screen, yet they still come crawling back to read this stuff. But hey, I guess for certain folks, having their right to feel "big, respected, smart, and important"—even if it’s just over some obscure thread on Reddit—is everything. If you take that away from them, it’s like their entire world just collapses. There’s really no other way to look at it!

Justin Gray81 said:So, now that you guys have finally mastered this little corner of the internet, what’s next on the agenda? Are we actually going to move on to some other topics that don't involve constant "deep thinking"... oops, I mean "philosophizing"? Or is that just it? Is this really the end of the line for us? I'm starting to wonder if there are even any other subjects left where we can just write whatever we want and get away with it!

Everyone here tends to stick to their own little bubbles, jumping into threads that actually interest them. But then you get these certain types of people who hide behind some supposed moral high ground just to tear others down. They’ll call someone a "murderer," a "poisoner," or a "predator," telling people they're disgusting or acting like they're the greatest villains on the planet. Honestly? It's actually pretty fascinating to strip away that act and see what's really going on underneath. When you look closer, all that "principled" posturing is usually just a cover for a total lack of actual knowledge and zero ability to have a civil conversation. It’s mostly just deep-seated insecurity manifesting as aggression. Most of these people don't even hold these views themselves—they just scoop up whatever outrage is trending on random news sites or YouTube comments and parrot it back. If you try to pin them down with a real question, they don't have a single shred of evidence or a logical argument to offer; they just immediately resort to cheap ad hominem attacks. And honestly, it happens more often than you'd think!

Justin Gray81 said:Honestly, I remember when this Reddit community used to be such a great place to hang out. It was actually pretty awesome back in the day, but lately? Man, things have really gone downhill.

Honestly, this Reddit community is still a pretty solid spot—as long as you actually know what you’re getting into, understand the ground rules, and realize exactly what kind of content lives here. But if you're coming in here asking "what is this place?" like it's some deep philosophical mystery, you might want to take a good look in the mirror before you get too invested. Seriously, do yourself a favor and check yourself while you still can! 🍿

Larry Allen34 said:Ethan Brooks59 — Man, I absolutely love your sense of humor! Seriously, you took that one little snippet of mine and pulled it completely out of context from my original post (just like you did with everything else!). He really just completely ignored the whole cause-and-effect thing in his posts! It’s like he's totally disconnected from how one thing leads to another.Honestly, you absolutely deserve a red card for that one—though, let’s be real, about 99% of your posts on this thread probably deserve one too. If we were being honest, you should probably just get a permanent ban from this discussion altogether!

Honestly, I feel a little embarrassed using this kind of tone here. This thread deals with such heavy, serious illnesses, and I know most of you have much more pressing, meaningful questions than what we usually see on other parts of the forum. Because of that, I really think we need a moderator to step in and help keep things appropriate so we don't lose sight of how important these discussions actually are.

I have to say the same thing as my colleague here—it is honestly mind-blowing how some people just show up in a space like this specifically to stir the pot and cause chaos. It’s actually pretty incredible to witness...

On the other hand, I’m actually kind of glad you pulled that quote from my earlier post! Honestly, maybe this will nudge the admins to take a closer look at what’s really going on in this thread. It would be great if they could identify who is actually stirring the pot, causing drama, and tearing the discussion apart—especially when there are plenty of us here who have zero interest in bickering and just want to focus on the actual topic. Personally, whenever I feel the urge to get into a heated debate, I head over to the political boards. At least there, the moderators enforce strict rules, and I know if I cross the line, I’ll get banned immediately. That kind of structure is exactly what the alternative medicine community needs right now. If we had that, so many problems would vanish overnight. The shouting matches would stop, and we could finally get back to what matters: sharing knowledge, swapping personal experiences, and working through the flaws in certain therapies to improve them. If we could actually focus on progress instead of fighting, we might truly be able to help someone battling a serious illness when conventional medicine has already given up on them. That’s the goal, isn't it?

So, how exactly are we supposed to read posts from the people on the "ignore list," huh? Haha! 👍😁😁
Look, look, maybe you’ll eventually realize that all this constant nitpicking isn't helping anyone! And I can guarantee you haven't even bothered to read the start of this discussion, let alone... So, I was looking back at yesterday's thread about cancer treatment, and honestly? We haven't changed a single post. Not one! Unless, of course, you decide to go undercover and post under a fake handle, which—let's be real—is actually against the rules here.Look, I’m going to be blunt here: that whole morbid obsession with picking apart someone's tragedy is just wrong. I’ll say it straight—it’s the behavior of absolute bullies to mock or belittle a woman who is openly sharing her own battle with cancer. There isn't a single sane, rational reason to doubt her experience when she's laying out what she's going through, yet people still choose to swoop in with condescending, disgusting comments. Even worse is when people start throwing around insults without even bothering to read the actual post, or worse, tossing around threats of lawsuits and legal harassment. Honestly, acting like that is completely unacceptable, no matter what topic we're discussing on this forum. It's just classless.
Honestly, I have to point out how some people here act like "experts" just because they feel like it—usually because they’re either totally clueless or just trying to hawk their own products. It takes about ten seconds of Googling to realize half these people are nothing more than scammers and frauds. Then you have this whole crowd trying to band together specifically to take aim at science and modern medicine, calling doctors everything from murderers and poisoners to incompetent villains. It really makes you wonder what the actual goal is for this entire group of posters. Seriously, why are we even here?
Look, it’s not even about whether eating raw frogs actually cures stomach cancer. That's not the point! The real issue here is understanding *why* it would work, the actual mechanism behind it, and if—assuming it worked for Ruhan over in Brahmapur—it would actually work for someone like Steve from a small town in Ohio. But honestly, almost nobody asks those kinds of questions around here. And the second you try to dig deeper, people start attacking you for questioning something just because it falls under "alternative medicine." Give me a break! It feels like as soon as something is labeled "alternative," everyone stops asking questions entirely, yet we're expected to accept any result as absolute truth, even if there’s only one single case ever reported. That's just not how science works!
Did Justin Gray81 just give us a perfect example of how this should work? He made a claim about using carrots for medical treatment, right? And did he actually go out and verify it? Yep! Was his initial story totally accurate? Not quite. But were there elements in there tied to alternative medicine that made it worth looking into? Absolutely! And was his final take, after doing the actual research, different from where he started? You bet it was!
Honestly, he provided a rare moment of someone actually being open-minded. If everyone approached things with that kind of integrity, we wouldn't have such nasty arguments all the time.

And as for moderation... oh man, people have been calling for it for months now. Nobody is even responding to posts or emails anymore. If you kept nitpicking every little thing on any topic, you'd end up gray-listed in no time—you know that better than anyone. I’ve reported plenty of stuff following the advice I got from Nice—like when someone starts swearing at people's families or when they spam cartoon clips in a thread just because they think it's funny—but nothing happens. It feels like if I don't start being rude myself, nobody listens, because apparently, that's the only language some people understand.
So, after everything, I just have to say: seeing your "ignore list" actually makes me feel proud. The people on there are the ones I respect way more because of their stances and the discussions they lead, compared to those who pretend to be these big-hearted altruists in the threads while holding views I can't stand. They're the real deal.

Richard Sanders7 said:Methods that actually show verifiable, successful results fall under the umbrella of mainstream medicine. By definition, alternative medicine is that which remains unproven or hasn't quite hit the mark yet.

Maybe we should just pin this thread to the top, or better yet, start a whole new one that gives people a serious heads-up about how unreliable alternative medicine can be. That way, people can just jump in and joke about trying to cure cancer with jelly donuts or something!

Look, some things work and some don't (I think the most famous example we have right now is using medical cannabis for MS). When I talked about "results," I meant outcomes that are clearly observable and proven, even if they come from methods that haven't been officially adopted by the medical establishment yet. To be more specific, let's say there's an "xy method" that is still being studied for potential side effects or safety concerns. Even so, based on the data we have so far, its success rate in treating certain conditions is actually higher than the current standard of care. It hasn't been officially sanctioned or integrated into mainstream medicine just yet, but it’s being quietly used because the results are simply too good to ignore. Once—and if—it gets fully validated, it'll become part of official medicine. That’s really all I was getting at! 👍

It’s honestly pretty hilarious watching these kinds of calls to action pop up right after five different threads were opened asking for moderation due to insults, off-topic rambling, spamming, and those nasty ad hominem attacks directed at anyone here who advocates for alternative medicine—not to mention how some folks are probably going to start doing the exact same thing following this post.

And yet, at the very same time, people try to defend their version of "alternative health" with posts like these:

Larry Allen34 said:....
Man... seriously, did you even consider for one second in that ego-driven head of yours that someone might actually be suffering because of all this? That there might be a genuine chance someone could find relief through alternative medicine, and by leaving them feeling confused and totally lost about where to turn, you've effectively robbed them of any hope of finding help in the first place?

Well, I'm done dealing with your nonsense—if you look down below, you'll see the long list of pack members who've already been sent straight to my ignore list, and I haven't wasted another breath on them since. You're next on the list—hasta la vista, baby!

Or maybe with outbursts like this:

Then there are the posts where they basically act as walking billboards for the "works" of proven frauds and charlatans.

They hide behind the label of "alternative" to peddle views and products that have absolutely zero connection to reality—methods that lack any standing, credibility, or actual results. That isn't an "alternative," it's nothing. Real alternative medicine consists of a set of methods that provide verifiable results in specific areas of treatment compared to standard approaches. But claiming that some "method" like eating seeds or drinking carrot juice cures 80% of cancer cases today—and then blaming some "shadowy lobby" for why those results aren't published—is just pure idiocy. Intentionally spreading false, unproven, and baseless data meets all the criteria for a criminal offense; furthermore, advertising, advising, and coercing people to use such things is nothing less than practicing medicine without a license. Short and sweet.

Honestly, the "On the Edge of Science" thread has become a total disaster zone because one guy has turned his backyard into a complete nebula of nonsense. At this point, nothing makes sense anymore. It would be way easier to just lock everything down and wipe the last six months of posts entirely. He’s taken the Titanic thread and turned it into some weird playground for his delusions about the ocean and water levels. Then there’s the Pyramids thread, which he’s morphed into this bizarre conspiracy theory about how llamas and pufferfish were used for construction. He even dropped those beautiful Paul McCartney YouTube clips into a thread where nobody knows why he even started it in the first place! And don't even get me started on that thread about cannibalism—that is the absolute rock bottom for this forum and common sense alike.
There isn't a single topic left that hasn't been hijacked by his constant, messy rambling.

Ethan Barrett22 said:I almost completely lost track of this thread! Just a quick response for Brenda Gonzalez12.
I know exactly what Linda Moore51 is saying because my memory is actually pretty sharp. That’s why I keep noticing such strong similarities between your writing style and hers... or maybe it's just yours?

Your memory is clearly slipping since you aren't even posting in other threads. But hey, I have a suggestion—tell me if you're down. I’ll ask Nico directly if Linda Moore51 and I are clones. If we are, go ahead and ban me permanently. If we aren't, you'll post an apology in all the Alternative threads for making that claim. You'll shut down your little "clones" and stop hounding both of us. And most importantly, you'll stop posting stuff that can't be backed up by actual facts.
Sound like a plan?

Ethan Barrett22 said:As for everything else, we realized from your very first post here—something you keep repeating over and over—that your biggest goal in life is just having this forum run exactly how you want it to, according to your own beliefs. At the same time, you seem to forget what this forum is actually for and what its rules are.
I've already said everything I have to say about that, and regarding my own shortcomings, I even gave you some detailed pointers on how to handle things through the proper legal channels.

Regarding everything else, you're basically putting words in people's mouths. You love slapping labels on everyone else, yet you wrote this yourself:

"By the way, Brenda Gonzalez12, you have a whole different thread about cancer treatments elsewhere, so why don't you go express yourself there? You also have threads for alternative and conventional treatments, so feel free to talk about whatever interests you."

It’s pretty obvious that what actually bothers you is that this is a public forum where you're expected to actually back up your claims. How much you and Benny are willing to play that game has already been shown by your pathetic attempts to claim you're "saving lives" and "providing hope" to people.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

Even better! Maybe then we can finally deal with those spam bots on NRZ who use dozens of clone accounts just to get fifty people onto their ignore lists, all while pumping out the exact same repetitive garbage:

"some insulting or shocked opening sentence that makes zero sense -> a stupid link-> followed by some "comment" that's barely three or four words long".

It’s completely pointless—no motive, no purpose, no reason at all. They’re just doing it for themselves, purely to pad their post counts, and it’s been allowed to slide for years without any real consequences.

Donna Miller4, do you ever wonder why nobody upvotes your posts? Honestly, aside from the fact that there’s zero moderation here—making upvotes feel pretty much pointless anyway—it’s just because these threads are totally trashed by the absolute nonsense you post. I mean, claiming the Pyramids in Giza were painted by pufferfish, or trying to explain the sinking of the Titanic by talking about repairs on your junker of a car... only a dedicated troll would write stuff like that! I genuinely think instead of lecturing everyone else, you should just be embraced as an entertainer—basically a walking joke who exists just to post ridiculous things.
And please, stop trying to shove your "interpretations" of fresh water versus seawater down our throats; nobody asked for your take on it. People were simply pointing out that sea water and fresh water aren't the same thing because of their different properties, minerals, salt content, and density. But clearly, that’s flying right over your head because you just don't get it. You lack the knowledge, you don't understand those scientific properties, and you've probably never even heard of them. That's why you can't wrap your mind around it, so you try to act like people are telling you something else entirely. It’s just pure helplessness and ignorance on your part. You don't even read what people are saying properly—you respond in the wrong threads, you derail topics constantly without any consequences, and then you have the nerve to criticize others? You’ve honestly become a total laughingstock. A complete joke.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Brenda Gonzalez12 - okay, serious question here - are you actually joking or being dead serious?
Just take another look at what I bolded in your post and really think about what you're putting out there...
They actually said exactly how educated they were?????

Honestly, Elizabeth Jackson, when you go on about how schools and scientific institutions are just breeding grounds for evil, it’s pretty easy to get an idea of just how much time you've spent in them—and by extension, how much education you actually have.
You don't need to brag; sometimes just criticizing something tells everyone everything they need to know.

Ethan Barrett22 said:I promise you that whatever you want me to be, it's not like I would have been banned back then, just like I haven't been once since I joined this forum.

The thing is, people simply aren't reporting you (we aren't all total pushovers like some folks here claim to be), they're just letting you spout nonsense because they enjoy watching you pile on the stupidity until someone eventually shuts you down with a single sentence. And since you don't have any actual evidence to back yourself up, you just live off the praise from those few characters who suck up to you for their own reasons.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Do you notice that every single one of your ad hominem attacks follows the exact same pattern as Linda Moore51's - distorting someone else's statement to an extreme degree?
I can't tell if it's a bad memory or just bad intentions.
It doesn't do you any favors, nor does it help you achieve anything, because everyone can see exactly what I wrote.

Maybe Linda Moore51 and I just think alike, because for years now, along with a couple of others, we've been deconstructing and exposing the nonsense from these "alternative theory" types who have as much to do with actual astronomy as a goldfish does with flying.

Ethan Barrett22 said:If you had something to prove it, you would have linked it.

I did link it, Elizabeth Jackson! You're just pivoting the conversation now because you realized you messed up big time. That's why you aren't acting as bold with your advice like you used to.

Ethan Barrett22 said:It’s pretty funny how for this specific claim you didn't actually link anything concrete to back up what you're saying.

Actually, it's not me, it's you! I was the one asking you for an exact number of people cured by those (or someone else's) "miracle" methods. Because look, if 10,000 people pass away every year and you can only name ONE single case of a cure, then my friend, you're really stretching the truth. And how many links did you provide? ZERO!! Am I the one who needs to prove it to you? Just go read some local obituaries and see how many people are dying...

Ethan Barrett22 said:We can all clearly see how unimportant and irrelevant I am, considering you spend so much precious time and energy reading my posts and replying to them so quickly and faithfully.
If you had spent even just a tenth of that time linking the stuff you're attacking me over, maybe someone would actually take you seriously.

Oh man, you wouldn't believe how little effort I actually put into responding to you. It doesn't even take any thought—it's just that easy!
Besides, from where I'm sitting, it looks like I've become a bit of an obsession for you, probably because I hit a nerve that you haven't been able to address with anything other than ad hominem attacks instead of answering my direct questions.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Do you know anything at all, Brenda Gonzalez12, besides making insinuations, twisting people's words, and throwing out false claims that you can't even support?
Look, dear Brenda, this is what I actually said:

The things you call "insinuations" and "twisting facts" are actually things that are incredibly easy to confirm or debunk with just one simple sentence.
So, why don't you just come out and say it: are you a doctor by profession? I'll go on the record right now and say you aren't. That isn't an insinuation; it's a fact, so go ahead and try to disprove it.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Aha, so now I *am* inciting. 😁
In your last post, you were singing about how I provide medical care and quoting legal statutes, trying to convince the moderators that they should execute me just because what I write isn't to your liking. 🤦
You’ve already got a mountain of material to be embarrassed by!

Whoops, looks like I hit the nail right on the head! My whole point was that "anyone who doesn't have the required medical credentials is practicing medicine or providing other types of medical assistance..."
I'm pretty sure you don't have that first bolded part, so feel free to prove me wrong—but the second bolded part covers "giving advice," too. So, Elizabeth Jackson... this isn't an invitation to start "firing away"; it's just a suggestion that you take a step back and let the moderators follow the forum rules if they find any violations.

Ethan Barrett22 said:What I’m writing here isn't a joke; I was just trying to join the discussion about moderation, but then you started attacking me personally instead of using actual arguments, so I had to respond.

Oh, it is definitely a joke, and it’s clearly not sinking in. You’re messing around with people's lives by giving advice that has crossed the line from helpful suggestions into straight-up trashing established medical procedures—whatever you might think of them—and telling people it's "normal" to stop following them.
That’s why this is a thread about moderation and not a thread about cancer treatment.

Ethan Barrett22 said:There it is, ad hominem attacks everywhere... I guess it's time for Donna Miller to step in... Poor Brenda Gonzalez12, having so much free time to deal with people he doesn't even like.
Brenda Gonzalez12 would probably love it if anyone who thinks he's being ridiculous was just kicked off the forum.🤣

Donna Miller started throwing around nonsense and going totally off-topic so much that she can't even tell what she's writing or where she's posting when she's in one of her moods. But hey, that's her problem, and it's the problem of the moderators who aren't doing their jobs.
Personally, I’ve stepped away from posting in all the threads until this pile of junk gets cleared out and proper moderation starts again. Because honestly, there's no point in arguing with someone who's clearly not in their right mind.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Fine, just one last quick message to my dear friend Brenda Gonzalez12, who finds my posts completely uninteresting and doesn't care about me at all... 😁
Brenda Gonzalez12, this is the Moderation thread on the Alternative Science PDF, not a thread about me, or Donna Miller, or any other forum members.
I am seriously warning you about this. (pay attention to the bold text)
If you keep hounding me without making a single coherent argument,I give you my word that I’m going to hold you to this rule.

Look, if you have an issue or just want to keep this back-and-forth going on a personal level, please don't clutter up the board or drag us into off-topic territory—I really don't have the energy for that anymore.
- If you want to hash things out with me privately, just shoot me a DM so we aren't bothering everyone else on the forum.
- On the other hand, if you truly believe I'm breaking the rules, please message a supermoderator or the admin directly and explain exactly what the issue is.
And you know as well as I do that you'll need to back that up with actual links.
- And hey, if you think I'm actually violating any U.S. federal laws, feel free to contact the appropriate authorities.

Thanks! I just realized I was absolutely right all along...👍
All these warnings and threats just prove to me that besides attacking people personally, you don't actually have any arguments to debunk the facts.

Nobody is stopping you from putting me on your "ignore" list. Go right ahead! Just don't think that means the rest of us won't see every single one of your replies whenever we call out your nonsense.

Ethan Barrett22 said:By the way, you act and write exactly like Linda Moore51 who has been on my ignore list for ages.

Wait, how are you seeing her posts and comments if she's been on your ignore list "for ages"? It seems like you can't help but peek at what she says... and jump in to respond.

And if you're implying that Linda Moore51 and I are the same person or some kind of clones, I have to say, you're making yourself look pretty silly. First off, she's much better looking than me, and I'm definitely heavier than she is!
Secondly, she deals with stuff that blows my mind, but I tackle topics she hasn't even touched. And thirdly, if you just take a quick look through the threads, you'll easily see that we don't always advocate for the same ideas. Though, we do agree on one thing: that "alternative" needs to be replaced by the real Alternative.

Since it seems like nobody is actually looking at the reports, I’ve decided to just start dropping them here, one by one!

Look, it isn't that people aren't noticing the blatant trolling, the off-topic rambling, the nonsense, or the straight-up rule-breaking. It's definitely happening.

The thread in question is Who actually built the Pyramids in Giza... The Facts?

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Ethan Barrett22 said:Hey there! I'm just jumping in to say hello! On what grounds? You’re actually claiming that! Honestly, I can't quite believe you'd say that! Hey there! It looks like someone just dropped by to say hello, or maybe they're just lurking in the shadows waiting for the right moment to jump into the conversation! Honestly, I can never tell if it's a friendly wave or just someone passing through, but either way, it’s always nice to see a new face around here. I'm usually the one rambling on about something random, so feel free to break the ice whenever you're ready! Hey everyone! I just wanted to jump in here and say hi! I've been thinking about everything we've been discussing lately, and I honestly can't wait to dive deeper into these topics with all of you. It’s always such a blast catching up on this thread! Professional expertise.?

Since a few people in this group have already stepped up to share their expertise and even mentioned their educational backgrounds, I feel like we can actually start getting a real sense of who knows what! It’s pretty cool—we can basically gauge who the go-to experts are for specific topics and figure out just how much deep-dive knowledge everyone brings to the table in their respective fields.
Honestly, looking at how you responded to that, it feels like you’re just some self-taught armchair expert who picked up a random fact somewhere and is now passing it off as absolute, gospel truth!
And you’re still trying to hide behind the forum rules... seriously? 😵😵 If everyone actually followed the community guidelines around here, you wouldn't be seeing posts like this anymore! Just because this site puts a disclaimer up doesn't give Elizabeth Jackson a free pass to claim that eating literal garbage is going to cure people. The whole point of the disclaimer is just to remind everyone that what's being said isn't verified fact. It’s basically a way for the site to say, "Hey, don't blame us if someone follows Elizabeth Jackson's ridiculous nonsense and ends up in the hospital." We can't have people blaming the platform when someone takes such dangerous advice to heart!

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Ethan Barrett22 said:So, who exactly is supposed to be looking into this? I mean, what kind of criteria are we talking about here, and what specific methods should they actually be using to run the check? It feels like we need a really clear roadmap for this!

Honestly, there’s really no need for that. Most of those news sites are just total garbage anyway—nothing but mindless nonsense and clickbait that you somehow pass off as absolute truth to everyone here. And then you have the nerve to lecture us about people making fun of someone's health? Talk about cynical!

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Ethan Barrett22 said:Wait, hold on a second! Where exactly did I say that? Remind me, because my memory isn't quite what it used to be!

Look, I’ve already laid it all out for you twice now! Seriously, just do me a huge favor and scroll up a little bit—it's all right there in the previous posts. Give it a quick read!

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Ethan Barrett22 said:As for everything else, let's keep this thread focused strictly on discussing cancer treatment! I’ve been thinking quite a bit lately about all those alternative options we often hear people buzzing about! You know, when you're looking for a different way to approach things rather than just sticking to the standard playbook. It's such an interesting topic because there are so many ways to pivot, isn't there? I sometimes struggle to make up my mind when there are so many paths to take—I can be a bit indecisive, honestly—but I find exploring these non-traditional routes so incredibly refreshing! It really makes you look at the world through a whole new lens. načinima When it comes to cancer treatment, things can get pretty overwhelming, right? It feels like you're constantly swimming through a sea of medical jargon and endless options. Honestly, I sometimes feel a little out of my depth just trying to wrap my head around all the latest breakthroughs! But hey, that's why we talk about this stuff—to make sense of it all together. Hey everyone! I am just so incredibly happy to have you all here. Seriously, please feel free to share any and all advice or tips that might be able to help those who are currently battling an illness. Every little bit of support counts!

Let’s clear the air on this one: we are talking about alternative ways to approach cancer treatment, plain and simple. This isn't a platform for debating those wild, "miracle" methods that claim a 1-in-10,000 success rate just so they can be shoved down everyone's throats as if they're some kind of definitive, final answer!
Look, if those methods were actually effective, we would have abandoned the ones labeled as "unreliable" or "dangerous" ages ago! Just because one person believes drinking urine will save their life doesn't mean every single person fighting cancer should follow suit. It’s the same logic—just because someone decides to do coffee enemas doesn't mean everyone else needs to join the club. And honestly, the "methods" you're pushing are exactly like that: just some "exclusive" articles read by people about one individual who claims they were cured. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of people die in America every year. If you're such a huge altruist, why aren't you standing in front of hospitals trying to save them? Please... give me a break! 👎

Ethan Barrett22 said:It seems like I've become an obsession for you, since you've spent quite a while trying to lynch my character in ways that won't yield any actual results.

To me, you're just some random person hiding behind a screen typing nonsense... which you're proving more and more every day. So, your little attempts to tear me down don't matter at all; you simply don't hold any weight in my life.

Ethan Barrett22 said:Anyway, I'll keep this brief because it isn't worth much time:
1. You have no idea if I have any medical training.
I don't practice medicine; I've never claimed that, and I can easily prove it.
I don't provide medical assistance; I've never said I do, and I can easily prove that too.
So, you can forget about ever holding me accountable. 🙂
2. Since I don't do anything mentioned in point 1, point 2 doesn't apply to me.

Regarding point 1: Unfortunately for you, I know you don't have any medical credentials.
And you admitted that yourself.

The second and third sentences are absolutely true. Within the context of this thread, you aren't practicing medicine; you're just peddling nonsense and suggesting that other people should use it as a last resort in their darkest hours. You're actually worse than the people who openly advocate for euthanasia for cancer patients—at least they're honest about it. You hide behind unverified articles and then pivot to "if they don't believe, they shouldn't use it."

Yeah, you aren't treating anyone; you're just encouraging people to listen to you and essentially walk off a cliff... all while pretending you want what's best for them.

Ethan Barrett22 said:By the way, Brenda Gonzalez12, there's a separate thread specifically for cancer treatment so go express yourself over there. There are also threads for alternative and conventional treatments, so feel free to write about whatever interests you there. 🙂

So, are you basically admitting that everything you’re posting here is just a big joke, while the actual facts are being discussed over in that other thread? You really just laid it all out there, plain and simple! Well, good to know. I guess from now on we can just move all our jokes about those guys—you know, the ones involving the whole cancer treatment thing (hey, a little optimism and good vibes never hurt anyone's recovery!)—straight over to the proper topic!

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Ethan Barrett22 said:Look, it’s pretty simple: just stick to the forum rules and you'll have a great time here! Life is much easier when everyone plays by the book. Look, I’m just not going to participate in this cheap little dogpile. Honestly, you won't achieve a single thing by tearing someone down like this, and deep down, I think you know that too!. 😘

Are you absolutely sure about this? Or should I just let you sink to the bottom of the ocean on your own? Because honestly, watching you flounder until you eventually disappear from this thread without ever coming up with an excuse like, "My bad, I really wasn't sure..." would be quite the spectacle!
😉😁😁

That’s exactly where the whole Alternative movement trips up. What you’re calling "trolling tactics" is actually just my way of looking at things—I’m looking for evidence, for hard data. But there isn't any. There are zero facts and zero real arguments.
There’s nothing on alternative medicine, nothing on the FDA...

And you won't find any exact data points. Talking about these isolated "miracle cures" from some random part of the world, or mentioning "some people" here and there, while in America hundreds and thousands are dying... honestly, it's painful to even read. Not because I don't think shifting perspectives can help, but because it feels like some people just want to dismiss every single effort and success our doctors achieve. They try to nudge people away from proven medical procedures and swap them out for something else—something that even the people supporting this alternative approach can't even name!

The question was incredibly direct and specific:
does eating carrots cure sarcoma?
does baking soda cure breast cancer?
does beet juice cure lung cancer?

The response was so vague it was almost like an answer wasn't even given. But look, it's not your fault; it's a flaw in the mindset. People are speaking authoritatively about things they haven't researched and don't actually KNOW are true.

Because of that—and regarding the moderation side of things—I am strictly against moderating topics unless they fall outside the actual forum rules. I’d also suggest that the alternative crowd cleans up their own act by weeding out the vague ramblings and those mindless YouTube-link posters who are actually hurting their own cause. Someone really needs to tell them that what they’re doing just isn't working. ☕

Peter Peterson said:When someone presents a testimonial about how they managed to Cure themselves through healthy eating, the reaction from those die-hard chemotherapy enthusiasts is pretty much identical to what Brenda Gonzalez12 does.
...
Obviously, their goal isn't to actually solve the cancer problem, because if they did, the "economic math" wouldn't work out. A disease that fuels the purchase of luxury yachts and private jets is basically a gold mine for those outdated megalomaniacs. They do everything in their power to ensure cancer rates keep climbing—which explains why it’s been rising steadily over the decades. We’ve already reached a point where we consume GMOs without a second thought; in twenty years, we’ll probably be eating petroleum derivatives disguised as food.

So many people sell out for a relatively small price.

And honestly, the moderators really ought to put an end to this obnoxious, baseless trolling.

No worries at all, Peter Peterson! Why don't you help satisfy my "curiosity" then, just so it doesn't look like I'm relying on some "opus of passionate chemotherapy enthusiasts"?

Answer me these:
Does carrots cure sarcoma?
Does baking soda cure breast cancer?
Does beets cure lung cancer?

Name one plant, supplement, or substance that cures carcinoma with absolute certainty. Which one? What percentage? In what timeframe? And with what success rate?

After that, tell me exactly how many people have been COMPLETELY cured (with confirmed medical results) using Alternative methods, radiation, or chemotherapy, and what is the actual percentage of recovery? If it's such a miracle, the internet is overflowing with testimonials—finding a number shouldn't be hard.
Don't give me vague answers like "many," "a lot," "so many," or "several." I want the exact number of CURED individuals, backed by verified medical findings.

Let's see how "alternative" options actually hold up in the real world.
No faith, no lucky charms, and no wizards. Just concrete numbers.

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Gregory Ramirez2 said:Right now, things are looking like... I’m looking for some help! Oh my goodness, guys, I am in a total panic right now! This is an absolute emergency! I’ve gotta say, I really feel like we need to step in here! It feels like things are heading in a direction that just doesn't make sense, and if someone doesn't jump in to course-correct, we might be looking at a total mess. I'm probably overthinking this—I tend to get a little carried away sometimes—but I truly believe a bit of outside intervention is exactly what's needed right now to get everything back on track! I honestly have to say, I’m feeling a little bit exhausted by the constant trolling we're seeing in that thread about cancer treatments. It’s one thing to have a heated debate about science or medical opinions, but when people start derailing serious discussions with pure malice or nonsense, it just gets old fast. It’s actually pretty disheartening! We’re talking about life-altering stuff here—topics that affect real families across America—and instead of having meaningful conversations, some folks just seem to enjoy stirring the pot for the sake of chaos. It feels like every time a serious topic pops up, there’s always someone lurking in the shadows just waiting to throw a wrench in the works. I know, I know, I’m probably being a bit too sensitive or "too much" about it, but I just can't help it! I really want this community to be a place where we can actually learn from one another without having to dodge insults or blatant misinformation every five seconds. Let's try to keep it classy, guys. We can disagree without being completely obnoxious about it!

Hey everyone! Let’s use this thread as our go-to spot for sharing treatment advice and helpful tips. Feel free to jump in! I’ve just opened up a new discussion thread regarding this topic! Please, feel free to go at it—debate away, argue your points, and let the back-and-forth happen as much as you like. All I ask is that we keep it respectful and don't direct any of that heat toward the people who are out there genuinely searching for help with their medical treatments. Let's keep the debate lively, but let's keep it kind to those in need!

Please, I am begging you—stop taking medical advice from those sketchy, bottom-of-the-barrel websites that claim "one in 35,000 people" were miraculously cured. Honestly, anyone with even a tiny shred of common sense can debunk those claims in about three sentences! It’s just not how science works. Carrots aren't going to cure sarcoma, baking soda isn't a fix for breast cancer, and eating piles of beets isn't going to touch lung cancer, no matter how many truckloads of them you consume. Let's please stick to actual medicine!

What is even going on with you, Benny? Is this because you aren't "moderating" the thread exactly how you want it anymore? Are you upset that things aren't following your specific vision of how the whole discussion should look? Is it because now it just looks like a tiny little clique of yours is running the show? Whatever you're in the mood for! I'm totally game. Just let me know what's on your mind, and we can get the ball rolling! Is it actually okay to just jump in and start questioning someone's claims without them even asking for my input first? I mean, can we really just go around challenging what people say out of the blue like that?
So, are you seriously calling for everyone who asks a question to be kicked off the thread? Look, I already told you—you’re not Messi, and you’re definitely not some untouchable expert. Sure, you might pick up a few things here and there, but the way you present them is just totally off. And honestly, why the aggression? You’re being so rude, insulting people and basically calling for a digital mob mentality. Maybe take a second to look in the mirror and ask yourself what your actual problem is...