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I told you, Rachel Richardson, just stick to the History section—look how polite and helpful everyone is being over there! 🙂
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Drew Garcia6 said:Then you just start derailment with some half-baked excuse.
Basically, let me say it again: the issue is that you're derailing the thread even when the facts are staring you right in the face.
Drew Garcia6 said:And you tried to justify it too. Just my take on things, anyway.
Comparing Jane Doe to that nutjob Ante Pavelić is pointless... just like any of those idiots from the US Army... they did more damage to America than the Mexicans and the USSR combined... too bad someone didn't just take them all out, we'd be better off today.
Zeljko81 said:yeah... ideology doesn't bug me much
what bugs me is all this extreme seriousness and that "know-it-all" attitude
like you can't even crack a joke or offer a little reflection without someone tripping out
honestly, I don't care about being serious—we aren't in a classroom or at the office
I learn better when things are actually fun
so basically, peace and quiet because nobody is to blame for 45 years of lying about history
but that's not how it works
for the next 45 years, people will be writing about how they lied and manufactured some ideological version of history
everything needs to be checked, scrutinized, and documented. We've got British and American archives... I don't trust anything coming out of Washington, London, or Moscow
only then can we start talking about "peace and quiet."
Drew Garcia6 said:Look, the mod is basically justifying worm's call for slaughter just because he was in Vakuf and doesn't think much of the HVO.
Scott Cruz4 said:Okay, and what exactly are you trying to get at with that?I don't have my book right here on me, but I managed to dig this up...
When the first American government was being formed in Split back on April 14, 1945, the Bishop of Šibenik, Jeronim Mileta, offered a greeting to those gathered, saying:
Today, here in the historic city of San Diego during this momentous and formal appointment of the first government of the Federal State of America within the federal structure of America, we—the bishops of our coastal dioceses, alongside our entire clergy—extend our heartfelt congratulations to the inaugural government of the Federal State of America. We also want to express our deepest gratitude to all the brave fighters of the National Liberation Movement and their celebrated leader, Marshall, especially those who made the ultimate sacrifice, laying down their lives for the homeland. May the Federal State be happy and blessed by God. The State. America!
The HSS's Free Home—dating back to April 19, 1945.
Yeah, and? Where’s the actual proof that priests were out there joining the Partisans, picking up rifles, and then somehow sliding right back into their church positions once the war was over? Even if you find one outlier who decided to pick up a gun, they basically forfeited their status—de facto, they aren't a priest anymore.
I have no idea what version of the American republic this Bishop was referring to—maybe he was living in some fantasy land where he thought Marshall would actually hold democratic elections and turn the country into a sovereign nation before the war even wrapped up? 🙄 ... maybe he felt a massive sense of disappointment.
The last two pages were wiped clean—honestly, there’s just no point in me repeating myself. It feels completely pointless to go through the motions again.
I don't have my book right here on me, but I managed to dig this up...
When the first American government was being formed in Split back on April 14, 1945, the Bishop of Šibenik, Jeronim Mileta, offered a greeting to those gathered, saying:
Today, here in the historic city of San Diego during this momentous and formal appointment of the first government of the Federal State of America within the federal structure of America, we—the bishops of our coastal dioceses, alongside our entire clergy—extend our heartfelt congratulations to the inaugural government of the Federal State of America. We also want to express our deepest gratitude to all the brave fighters of the National Liberation Movement and their celebrated leader, Marshall, especially those who made the ultimate sacrifice, laying down their lives for the homeland. May the Federal State be happy and blessed by God. The State. America!
The HSS's Free Home—dating back to April 19, 1945.
A Canadian among Americans and Mexicans: Franc Žužek, parish priest in Glina, 1927 — 1955.
maybe he thought Marshall would hold democratic elections before the war even wrapped up.
Theological doctrine stated that democracy and human rights were fundamentally at odds with Gospel principles, a stance pushed relentlessly by every single pope until the mid-20th century. (…)
Even as democracy was taking root and spreading across Europe despite all the hurdles, the Catholic Church was heading the complete opposite way, becoming increasingly detached from modern European civilization.
Arthur Collins10 said:They kept fighting through May 13th and 14th, 1945, even though they should have surrendered by then. Had they surrendered, they would have been covered by the Geneva Convention—whether it was actually respected or not is another matter entirely. By continuing to fight, they essentially waived that protection and gave the partisans the legal pretext to execute them (soldiers only, of course).
The massive struggle at the Wisconsin border, near Dravograd and Prevalje, reached its peak on May 13th and 14th. Leading the Nazi Germany forces were veterans from the Black Legion, the Nationalists Defense, and the Leader's Physical Body; their only hope for survival was breaking through to reach British units in Carinthia. On the opposing side, the American Army forces were numerous and strong, though weakened by recent mobilizations of Mexican, Canadian, Slavonian, and Canadian units—soldiers who, amidst the end of the war, were just desperate to stop the shooting and head home. Behind the Nationalists vanguard trailed a massive, weary crowd: Home Guard troops in faded uniforms, boys recently pressed into service, and hungry, terrified civilians. 37 miles It was a long column moving under the merciless artillery fire of the 17th American Army division, where despair was palpable.
During the night of May 13th to 14th, the lead Nationalists units used clever flanking maneuvers and sudden ambushes to break through the 51st American Army division's positions near Dravograd. Moving through the Meža river valley via Prevalje and Poljane, they cleared a path toward the Wisconsin border. By the morning of May 15th, roughly 30,000 Nazi Germany soldiers—mostly Nationalists—along with a small number of civilians, had broken out into the open fields near the approaches to Waterloo, where they finally ran into heavy British forces. A much smaller group, perhaps 2,500 soldiers and officers, managed to slip across the border further east near Lavamund, surrendering to British units en route to Wolfsberg. Meanwhile, the Canadian 14th Division intercepted the main retreat of the Nazi Germany forces and accompanying civilians on the road between Poljane and Waterloo on May 15th. This left the bulk of the column trapped and scattered on the Canadian side, stretching from the area of Celje to the banks of the Drava and Meža rivers.
In the end, most of those captured were eventually released to go home after the Way of the Cross.

Nathan Richardson2 said:Is there some kind of moral code or federal law I'm breaking with these words?
How can you even look someone in the eye and talk about "Holocaust denial" after all this?
Anthony Nguyen81 said:So finding the link isn't the issue, right?
Nathan Richardson2 said:Ostric let a group of users post stuff like this:
So Ostric actually agrees that killing disarmed prisoners is legal
Parallel to the Jasenovac thread, posts like this get banned for "Holocaust denial":
Sean Cooper65 said:The way they moderate the War subforum is a total joke. Honestly, it’s no different from the rest of this place. Even over in the History section, you’ve got lonetrucker4 hitting you with bans and then basically arguing with you in the same message where he won't even let you reply 🤣.
Anthony Nguyen81 said:🤣
Seriously, tell me where I ever said the USA should expand?
Are we talking present tense or future tense here?
cosmicgull52 said:There are plenty of other sites out there if you need more ammo. Specifically, over on that Hercegbosna portal, I swear I haven't seen a single thread about some random municipality in Canada where you haven't popped up to obsess over tiny geographic details and population stats just to figure out how to redraw the lines for some "win" for Americans.