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brightmarlin44 said:Lawrence Wells, look—I didn't study engineering at MIT or anything, but I spent enough time hanging out with those guys to know one thing: I'm definitely not hardworking, driven, or precise enough to pull that off. Let me tell you once more—EVERY SINGLE DOCTOR WORKING TODAY KNOWS THAT MEDICAL SCHOOL ISN'T THE IMPOSSIBLE MOUNTAIN PEOPLE MAKE IT OUT TO BE!! There are plenty of majors out there that are way tougher than this.
Arslan said:They needed urine, so they just went ahead and used a catheter—it was a mess. Honestly, why did you let them use such a brutal method? You can see you're suffering now because of that unnecessary catheterization—all because someone didn't want to wait. You could have just told them you wouldn't allow it, asked for more time, and then waited until you actually needed to go.
If I were in your shoes, I’d write a formal letter to the director of the facility where this happened to complain about their procedure. Send a copy over to Medicare, too. If the director doesn't get back to you within a week, send him another one, CC Medicare again, and just keep at it. Essentially, you should look into suing them for malpractice/improper examination.
This reminds me of that old thread about catheters where some people from Cleveland were claiming the whole thing is painless and perfectly safe. Yeah, right! Total nonsense.
brightmarlin44 said:Honestly, I feel like engineering is actually tougher than med school. You have to grind through endless studying, labs, and that brutal technical drawing stuff😲 I’ve had friends go through engineering—it’s soul-crushing. Medicine is mostly about memorization; if you have a solid system and stay consistent—like, say, two hours a day when things are quiet, maybe four hours a day leading up to an exam like physiology, paying attention in seminars, and getting lucky with your professors—you’ll make it...👍 Engineering students deal with all that plus the math and the drafting.
BTW, dentistry is even more intense because the hands-on lab work is constant, and by junior year, you're already in clinical rotations... All in all, you can wrap up a medical degree with less struggle than people realize😎 Unfortunately, though, being a doctor isn't the "glamour career" it used to be. To really make bank, you need a specialized residency, otherwise, the money isn't great unless you have a massive patient load. And those residencies last forever—if you don't love the work, it gets repetitive fast (seeing the same issues over and over)... In the end, the pay isn't even that huge.🙄 Personally, I haven't worked directly with patients in a while, yet I still pull in a good salary and I'm actually in management now.😬 So, I'm really not surprised that fewer people are aiming for MDs these days.
BTW, regarding that mess at Petrov, I heard a rumor it was caused by the daughter of some former politician from the old America era???😕 Of course doctors look out for one another—and yeah, there are definitely doctors who know absolutely nothing about actual medicine!!!😲 😠 That kind of thing happens everywhere, even here in the States.
BTW, the best doctors I've seen are Arab, like from Libya
Justin Fox said:Look, don't give me that nonsense. Instead, why don't you explain to everyone here what a "requiem for a surgeon" actually means? Let's be real—when one doctor screws up, there's a huge chance another one will just cover for them. If you mess up in IT, sure, you might crash a system, kill the power, or tank some bank accounts or tax filings—which is bad—but the odds of you accidentally killing someone are slim. Plus, it’ll be obvious who messed up, and the bosses will nail them for it.
In medicine, there's this massive gray area where people debate if things could have gone better or if a different approach would've changed the outcome. But even when it's medically obvious that someone totally botched it, colleagues tend to stick together and claim nothing went wrong. Just look at that scandal back in Washington, D.C., involving that family case—where a doctor failed to react properly and then handled things incorrectly afterward. The woman died. A commission was called in because the media went wild, and they ruled it negligence and incompetent treatment. The guy responsible? He just got a short suspension. That's it. You can cause someone's death through pure carelessness—like, this guy wasn't tending to his patient because he was too busy watching a game on TV—and your punishment is a few months off work? Where's the jail time?👎
And don't even get me started on how patients are treated. There's so much zero communication, treating people like cattle, or keeping them in the hospital longer than necessary just so they can bill Medicare for an extra bed. Or when you have to wait months for an exam—unless, of course, you have a "recommendation," then you're in immediately. Or after surgery, they just stitch you up in a rush, thinking, "Eh, they aren't a model, we don't need to worry about neat stitching." All these little instances of sloppiness go unpunished, even though they cause actual physical pain and mental anguish. Imagine being in pain, needing a diagnostic exam, and being told you have to wait months. It's ridiculous.👎
Edward Green said:how long??? 🙂
I was at the eye doctor this morning getting my pupils dilated. I finally finished up around 11:00 AM.
Of course, nobody mentioned they’d leave my pupils looking like the lid of an XL jar of pickles—you know, those massive ones.
I stepped outside and was just like, "OH MY GOD!!!!" 🙂
So there I was, wandering around town basically blind, squinting through my eyelashes like some kind of lost deer in a sandstorm just trying not to walk into a wall. And I dream of rain
i dream of gardens in the desert sand 🙂
By the time I got home, half my face actually ached.
I called in to see if I could come into work a little later, assuming by then my pupils would have shrunk back down.
My mom ended up dialing the number for me. See, since I started wearing contacts, I’ve become basically farsighted. As of today—I can't read anything close up and everything looks tiny, plus I can't hold things far enough away from my face. Okay, maybe once I get about 6 inches away it gets slightly better, so I even managed to squeeze out a reading of the newspaper. The letters were blurry, but I did it.
So yeah, still got XL pupils.
And I'm still farsighted. With my contacts.
I haven't taken them out.
Will this be gone by tomorrow morning? 🙂
Justin Fox said:Lawrence Wells, don't be rude and stop talking nonsense! I know exactly what med school is like—my best friend is a doctor (one of the truly honorable exceptions to the rule) and we used to hang out constantly, so I get it. You have to grind through anatomy, and I'm not just talking about bone names, but the actual structures, the tuberosities, the protrusions, all that stuff. For instance, I remember people saying they wouldn't bother studying the lymphatic system because it was too complicated—but if someone asks you a slightly deeper question, you're toast.
As far as studying goes, plenty of kids pulled straight A's in high school math, only to barely scrape by with a D in engineering school. The fundamental difference is this: when you're memorizing facts (like anatomy or specific laws), putting in more hours actually moves the needle. But with problem-based subjects (math, physics, etc.), you can memorize the entire textbook and finish every practice set in existence, and still fail the exam repeatedly. It’s just a completely different way of thinking. The number of pages you memorize isn't the only metric—or even a good one—for how hard a major is. Once you get into the groove, you memorize a lot and you do it fast, but there are much tougher challenges than that.