I know for a fact that ibuprofen makes some people drowsy, so just imagine what happens if a mother was prescribed something actually heavy-duty for the pain.
I never said you were making things up, and I’m sorry you had to deal with all that. My point is that while there's plenty of nonsense out there, most people aren't actually like that. And let's be real—that better crowd will eventually just pack up and head somewhere else, leaving behind nothing but the lowlifes who thrive in this mess.
Look, someone above mentioned people leaving and being replaced by folks from lower-income countries who'll work for peanuts. Personally, I don't want my doctors or nurses coming from those places.
So, because there are a few slackers out there, everyone else gets a pay cut? 😕 In every single profession, you’ve got people actually working and then you’ve got the ones just fooling around on the clock. You can't punish the whole group for a few bad apples. Besides, it wasn't just the doctors striking this time; the nurses joined in too. What, were they just napping through their shifts? Dammit, I picked the wrong career. I should've gone into healthcare just so I could nap all day and still get a paycheck.
And why are we always measuring ourselves against people who have it worse? In the US, people literally drop dead in the street if they don't have insurance—is that really the standard we're aiming for? 🤷
Look, I know there are all kinds of people in any field, but the entire profession doesn't deserve to be dragged through the mud.
People aren't asking for handouts; they want to be paid for their overtime shifts. It’s not about getting special perks—it’s about getting compensated for the actual work they put in. Do you even have a clue how hospital payroll works or the sheer volume of what gets done there?
And honestly, have you even stepped foot in a hospital lately? Even with the strike happening and them supposed to be strictly handling emergencies, the place is still buzzing with everything else. I'm speaking from direct experience here. 😉
And once they realize they’re hitting fertile ground, they double down. Honestly, the best move is just to ignore them. They usually back off pretty fast when they don't get the reaction they were fishing for. 😉
Jason Ortiz5, why on earth do you think she didn't earn that A? Back in my day at public school, PE grades were based on effort. If someone couldn't sprint a mile in under a certain time, but they actually showed up and gave it their all three or four times, they still walked away with an A. I wasn't exactly an athlete growing up—honestly, I’m still not much of an athlete 😁—but I always pulled straight As in PE regardless of which teacher I had. It wasn't a handout; I just worked as hard as I possibly could, and teachers recognized that grit and rewarded it. 🤷
Paul Martinez2 said:I've been wondering lately if a third-grade teacher should really wrap up the school year by grading a student based solely on mastery. For instance, what about a boy who tries his absolute best, turns in all his homework, shows up to every tutoring session, and is just a polite, hardworking kid, yet he simply struggles to grasp math and numbers?
It seems like the same situation as when your own child might receive an undeserved A in PE for a specific drill, even though they truly earned their grade through sheer effort!
Math is something you can practice and eventually master. If someone isn't born with the talent to sing, run fast, or paint like a pro, no amount of drilling is going to change that. But any average, intelligent kid can learn math. Some will pick it up instantly without trying, while others will grind for hours, but they'll get there.
You really can't compare math to PE, music, or art.
wanderingbadger44 said:What are you suggesting here—that we should brand kids with dyslexia on their foreheads or something?
Look, I’m probably going to stir up an argument by saying this, but I truly believe that when a child lives with dyslexia, they become aware of it; if their parents have taught them to embrace their neurodivergence, that kid can walk into a fifth-grade classroom and calmly say, "I'm sorry, I can't see where I went wrong because my dyslexia makes reading difficult." ☕
The original post actually explains things quite clearly: the teacher pointed out a mistake and asked him to fix it. It’s not like she walked up to him and called him stupid just because he missed a mark.
If a student has been dealing with dyslexia for a while, they’ve likely faced these hurdles many times before, much like how someone learns to navigate a constant obstacle in their daily path. They learn to manage it. If the kid just sat there staring blankly after she pointed out the error, it’s easy to see why she might have misinterpreted that silence as him acting like he didn't understand.
That being said, she shouldn't have gone there.
I’m just pointing out that having dyslexia doesn't make a student slow or incapable of communicating. ☕
Maybe the kid just froze up. 🤷 Moving from elementary to middle school—new teachers, new subjects—maybe he was just overwhelmed and didn't know what he was allowed to say to which teacher.
hiddenseal14 said:Well, oops. I actually told a student just a few days ago that they were acting stupid. The truth is, they really *were* playing dumb, and they were doing it specifically to entertain the rest of the class.
Apparently, I should have just asked for my walking papers right then and there.
Michael Davis9 said:Could we please get the title corrected? The teacher actually questioned whether the child was pretending to be dim, rather than just asking—she flat-out stated that they really are just stupid. ☕
I mean, look, if a kid is pulling straight A's across the board, then we're clearly looking at a case of pure teacher bias, a massive failure in the school system, or something else entirely going on behind the scenes. It’s just impossible for a child to be truly "stupid." People only start becoming foolish once they hit the real world; until they graduate, they're just little, innocent kids doing their best.
Are you a teacher too? Do you even know what dyslexia is? 😢
Look, there are stupid professors out there too. I had a math teacher back in the day who was so incompetent I couldn't tell if she was genuinely dim or just playing dumb. 😁 In all honesty, the woman was as clueless as they come. She had zero grasp of math; she probably only passed her exams because someone pulled strings for her or she used other methods to get ahead.
There are plenty of idiots in management positions, too. Do you walk up to your boss and call them stupid? Or is it only socially acceptable when it involves children because they can't really defend themselves?
wanderingbadger44 said:Why don't you go ahead and finish your degree, pass all those certification exams, and then come try your luck teaching in a public school? You can enjoy our exact salary, those three months of summer break, and all the perks people love to talk about regarding our four-hour workdays. I’m certainly not stopping you.😉
Where exactly did I say any of the things you're accusing me of?
If I actually wanted to be a teacher, I would've finished my extra credits and gone into teaching. 😉 Thanks, but no thanks—that career path doesn't interest me, especially not in this economy.
What if she’d said that to a kid with special needs? Like, "is he a little slow or just retarded?" Is that acceptable too? Some kids just act silly sometimes. 🤷
The absolute bare minimum would have been an apology. Why does she need a damn monument built for it? 😕 She’s lucky she doesn't work at a private school; I bet she wouldn't even get the chance to explain herself there. Go spend some time in the private sector sometime. See how much tolerance employers actually have for those kinds of comments directed at clients or customers...
edit: It's funny how you expect everyone to be understanding of you and respect the profession, yet you turn around and make excuses for people like this instead of distancing yourself from them.
shadowrider28 said:I find myself disinclined to engage in any sort of heated debate, for I have already remarked that I possess a rather clear understanding of exactly where this trajectory is headed. 🙄
While this might seem somewhat tangential to our primary subject, I was merely offering a reflection on that particular comment regarding the existence of double standards.
When one considers the matter of insults, does it not strike you that we are dealing with an entirely subjective landscape? It is a fickle thing, really. For instance, there are those students who perceive a mere letter grade on a transcript as a profound personal affront, a slight against their very character. And what follows? Naturally, the so-called "responsible and conscientious" parents descend upon the school administration, demanding that some grand sense of justice be served. They march in to demand retribution for this perceived injustice—which, in their eyes, is both the grade itself and the insult of receiving it—as if they were litigating a constitutional crisis rather than a mid-term evaluation, wouldn't you agree?☕
shadowrider28 said:I wasn't actually referring to your opening post, but rather to those specific comments that generally target anyone involved in protest movements; it is always the same handful of users (who regularly post on similar topics) using your situation merely as a smokescreen to lash out at the same old targets. That is all there is to it, and I shall now withdraw from this discussion.
Wait, where on earth was the entire profession being trashed? 🤷
The criticism was aimed at that specific teacher, and honestly, they deserved it. Look, nobody should be allowed to call someone stupid at work, and management shouldn't just turn a blind eye to that kind of behavior.
It’s funny to me that this teacher is trying to justify it by saying insults are subjective. I wonder if we’d accept the same excuses from a waiter snapping at a customer, a cashier insulting a shopper, some clerk at the DMV calling people idiots for bringing the wrong paperwork, or a doctor or nurse being rude to patients.
And what double standards are you talking about? Just because you don't discipline problematic students for whatever reason doesn't mean we should tolerate staff acting like this. Go try working at a private prep school and see how long it takes before you're fired for calling a student stupid.
I can't believe people actually defend this stuff. 🙄 Then everyone acts surprised when people start losing respect for teachers.
shadowrider28 said:I find myself in complete agreement😉 because, quite frankly, the School Board shouldn't be handing out "mercy" when it comes to disciplinary actions or other academic interventions. If parents decide to complain or start pleading their case, let them; it is a consequence of such inconsistency. 🥳
So, who decided to start playing favorites, and whose fault is it? 🤷
Are we supposed to just turn a blind eye to teachers insulting students because the administration is too incompetent to discipline problematic kids? (What does that even have to do with the topic?)
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I really hope you’ll show this much empathy if your own kid ever finds themselves in a spot like this.
All I want to know is whether people would be this understanding if a teller at Chase walked up to you and said, "You're an idiot; you wrote the wrong address or account number on your deposit slip." Or better yet, imagine getting sick because you didn't dress warm enough, going to the doctor, and having them snap at you about how stupid you are for not wearing a coat.
Look, we all claim to be outraged by child abuse, yet here we are basically making excuses for this professor. If she can't exercise basic self-control, maybe teaching isn't the right career path for her—especially since she works with kids, and kids come in all shapes and sizes. 🤷 There are plenty of people sitting at the unemployment office who don't feel like working and actually know how to behave themselves around children.
silverraven14 said:So, teachers get two strikes, regardless of what kind of mistake it was.
Does that rule apply everywhere else? Like, should we be looking to fire a bank teller for failing to pass along paperwork, or someone who typos an address, or just having a rough day? Or a bus driver, or a cashier at Target...
Look, people mess up. Pointing out a mistake is part of the job—obviously.
But tossing around formal warnings as a precursor to firing someone? Would you demand a disciplinary write-up if kids cheated on a test, or if a teacher gave out unearned grades, showed favoritism, snapped at a student, covered up a broken window, or had a bad sense of humor that hurt someone’s feelings—even if they didn't realize they'd caused offense?
It happens. We make piles of mistakes every single day, and plenty of them are unacceptable. But once you realize it, or someone calls you out, you react, you learn, and you try to do better.
Yes, you're allowed to have a bad day and not be "perfectly upbeat" all the time; if you can shake it off, then fine. Ideally, those moments should be kept to a minimum.
But honestly, how many of us haven't thought, "Stop messing with me, you idiot"? Everyone needs a moment before things escalate into verbalizing that thought.
What she said was blunt, sure. But in my book, that isn't grounds for a termination warning. It’s actually a good sign that she publicly admitted she screwed up. There's hope there—that she'll learn from it and be more careful next time. She might slip up again; she's a human being, not a robot. A million different things influence how you perceive a situation and how you react. It takes a lot of practice.
But let's be real: if people weren't willing to show some grace for your mistakes, and if apologies didn't carry any weight, I wonder how long any of us would actually last in our jobs.
Firing should happen when there's a pattern of grievances—when someone refuses to fix the situation and just insists on doing things their own way. That's why management needs to be aware of the context. One bad joke, a student dragging their feet while your clock is ticking, or a kid being a smart-ass can throw anyone off balance and lead to a mistake. What matters most is what follows the error.
I haven't met a single person who is infallible or hasn't said something inappropriate at some point in their life...
Now, repeating the same errors over and over, or a constant stream of different mistakes stemming from the same core issue, combined with a refusal to improve or a stubborn attitude? Yeah, that's grounds for dismissal.
Verbal aggression is deeply rooted in our culture, and it's incredibly hard to never lash out. Manipulation falls under that umbrella too—verbal abuse. There are about 15 different types of it. In my opinion, what turns an action into abuse is the reaction afterward and the underlying intent. If a person realizes how badly they messed up and genuinely tries to make amends, I wouldn't label that as abuse; I’d be ready to say, "Alright, let's move past this." But if the goal was to make the other person feel small, or if they don't care that the person felt hurt—then yes, that's abuse.
People often don't realize how much stuff qualifies as verbal abuse. Assuming someone is acting with pure malice right out of the gate is a very slippery slope.
There are negative actions that can be repaired and relationships mended, and then there are the ones that are irreparable. For the latter, fire them immediately. For the former, you observe. Since part of the evaluation depends on how the recipient feels, rushing to terminate someone is pretentious. For instance, someone might take great offense because a teacher says "no" firmly, even after explaining the reasoning fifty times previously. People don't have infinite patience; it's a question of where everyone's limit lies and which day it happens.
We all have that one person who gets under our skin, and we react. Sometimes it's your husband telling you that you went too far because you couldn't see it yourself. It doesn't matter how much education or willpower you have; you aren't a robot. You're driven by emotions—which are often stronger than a paycheck—especially when you don't have massive pressure from above crushing your spirit. And you want your child to forgive you. That's just human. Why shouldn't we give others the chance to forgive us, too?
Even a child learns who no longer deserves forgiveness. They feel it. It doesn't need to be a strictly codified tally. Sometimes one mistake is too many, but sometimes we can handle ten if we see genuine progress, effort, and accountability.
I think this conflict was handled reasonably by both sides, and I hope we won't be hearing about it again. Honestly, a formal written warning feels like total overkill at this stage.
I’m reading through this thread right now and I have to weigh in.
You're comparing apples to oranges here. This isn't about a teacher accidentally logging the wrong grade in the system—that would be the equivalent of the lost paperwork or the typo you mentioned. No, she stood up in front of the entire class and mocked a kid who struggles with reading and writing. If a child doesn't have dyslexia, she still shouldn't talk to them like that, especially in cases like this.
By the way, if a clerk at a place like Chase Bank walked up to a client and asked if they were stupid or just acting stupid, they wouldn't have to worry about getting a formal warning before being fired. 😉
Yeah, people mess up. But humiliating a kid in front of their peers and indirectly implying they're slow? Sorry, but there is absolutely no excuse for that. I really hope this reaches the principal and that this teacher gets a serious reprimand so she never thinks about speaking to a student like that again, or asking them if they're stupid.
edit: Just realized Jason Ortiz5 wrote something similar. 🙂
crimsonpuma23 said:Basically, here’s how I see it: If someone spreads their posts out properly—say, dropping 10 posts across different threads over two days at specific intervals—they won't be flagged as a spammer. But if someone dumps 6 or 7 posts all at once and just leaves emojis under each one, they didn't space them out right, so suddenly they're suspicious for spam?🤣
Yeah, exactly. That's the logic people using it for ads follow. They think if they spread things out across different topics and don't act too aggressive with the timing, they won't get caught. But they do get caught. 😁 You can literally go to any user profile, click "view all posts," and see exactly what, where, and how they've been posting (any regular Forum member can check this anytime). This guy you're talking about, who drops 10 posts in two days consisting of nothing but emojis? He'd probably be banned or kicked immediately for spamming.
Look, you aren't the only moderator in the US, and there isn't some strict deadline you have to hit to get this sorted out. 🤷
Man, back when we were working at Mayo Clinic, things took us months to fix, but at least nothing was sticking out like a sore thumb like it was before. We tried using warnings, but honestly, we just got pissed because they make zero sense in situations like this. In the end, we decided the best move is to just lock down anything that shouldn't be popping up or anything that doesn't fit our PDF guidelines—especially since nobody else wants to deal with it anyway. It keeps people from dragging stuff up.
edit: Locking a thread isn't the issue when someone bumps it; the issue is that from what I can tell, people are getting official warnings for stuff like this.
And why don't you just lock the threads that people shouldn't be starting in the first place? 🤷 Over on the Health forum, we were constantly seeing junk float to the top, so we just ended up locking most of it down. It’s honestly easier than handing out penalties every time someone brings up some ancient, pointless topic or posts a duplicate.