Posts by steelmaker83

stormybadger8 said:Good grief, what's next? Are you seriously going to claim the Earth is just a flat disc being carried on the back of some giant red turtle named Fernando Alonso?🤣

Look, do you actually get how this works? For Fernando Alonso to have overtaken Kimi Räikkönen, he would have had to jump both Daniel Ricciardo and Kimi at the exact same time. It’s simple math.
Another potential scenario was Kimi losing out to both Daniel Ricciardo and Fernando Alonso at once, but that borders on science fiction—especially when you factor in Fernando Alonso.
Daniel Ricciardo might have actually stood a chance, but Fernando Alonso is basically out of luck—unless Kimi Räikkönen pulls some kind of stunt or his team completely screws him over.
Take a second to actually think about this. How exactly is Fernando Alonso supposed to outmaneuver Kimi Räikkönen when Kimi was already ahead on track and would have been hitting the pits first? It just doesn't add up.
If you gave Fernando Alonso a set of old, worn-out tires, he’d probably still pull off a fastest lap that beats everyone else on the track by four or five seconds.😂
That gap was anything but small...http://en.mclarenf-1.com/index.php?p...nando%20Alonso

Even beyond that, nothing went right for Fernando Alonso, not even during those initial pit stops. The gap was significantly smaller in Spain. I don't know what the hell the team was thinking giving him priority...
Honestly, if I were racing in Monaco, I could have easily made up a four or five-second gap and overtaken Daniel Ricciardo along the way.😍
Who knows? Maybe Lewis Hamilton and Nico Rosberg don't even realize how lucky they actually are. If Fernando Alonso had decided to step on the gas just a little harder, he probably would have gapped them both before they even hit the pit lane.🤣

What's wrong with you?

What do you mean, 4 or 5 seconds? At the moment the Safety Car came out, Fernando Alonso had already sliced his lead from 7 seconds down to just 3.3. My take is that if they had held off on those regular pit stops for another 2 or 3 laps, that gap would have dropped to under 2 seconds easily.

It’s critical to consider exactly where Kimi Räikkönen would have emerged from his pit stop and what kind of traffic he’d be hitting. In the Monaco Grand Prix, pitting is always a massive gamble because the track is so narrow; if Kimi gets caught behind slower cars, he could easily lose two seconds in a single lap. As for my theory that Fernando Alonso could maintain pace on old tires, I'm basing that on Massa's performance. Massa was flying on ancient rubber after everyone else had already pitted, putting in laps that were significantly faster than his teammate on fresh tires.

So... anyway...

Peter Carter6 said:It’ll be interesting when he finally pulls it off. And he will, eventually...
Let's see how things shake out in Montreal then...

Maybe he will, maybe he won't. Personally, I'm hoping he does just to see if there's actually any substance there, because what we've seen so far hasn't been nearly enough.

wiredscout14 said:So, here’s the takeaway from the race: if Alonso is falling behind, he's just letting people pass. If he's catching up, it's because he's actually faster. Simple as that. 🙏 Clearly, some people here don't even know what the term "releasing" means. 🙏
Honestly, who actually has the patience to read through this nonsense? 🤷

The car was built entirely around his driving style, which basically made it half the garage's problem. Add some questionable political maneuvering and everyone else's misfortune into the mix, and you get this mess. It’s been slower since the fifth race of the season. Maestro. 🙏

Look, friend, it’s all right there in black and white. Pure facts. Kimi Räikkönen hasn't shown a single shred of evidence on track this season that he can actually outpace Fernando Alonso. Not once. And the moment he managed to build a (completely illusory) seven-second gap, you all started jumping for joy. I get it—you’re overcompensating. I understand the nerves, and I certainly understand the impatience, but please, stop fighting these pointless battles.

Since I have a notoriously low tolerance for stupidity and sheer lack of intellect, I felt compelled to point out a specific fact here. I'll allow myself the margin of error to suggest that Kimi Räikkönen might have intentionally let those two snatch his advantage during critical moments of the race for tactical reasons. 🤣

ruggedfox28 said:Just let him talk. It’s obvious he’s just rambling nonsense. If you look at any actual news outlet online or listen to the sensible voices on the forums, the consensus is clear: Obrvan drove a mediocre race and still managed to scrape a solid 4th place finish. Honestly, that's been his bread and butter throughout his career—just scavenging around the track and opportunistically capitalizing on other people's misfortunes. Or, if we're being honest, just taking advantage of everyone else's mistakes.

Can someone drop a link for these claims? I’d just like to make sure we aren't just listening to forum rambling here.
Sure, we could go with something like this:The race weekend at the Monaco Grand Prix Circuit was a masterclass in precision and tactical execution. It wasn’t just about raw speed; it was about managing the chaos that defines street racing. Looking at the results, it’s clear that the strategy played a massive role in separating the frontrunners from the pack. While some drivers struggled to find their rhythm amidst the tight corners and unforgiving barriers, others seemed to navigate the tension with ease. It was a high-stakes game of chess on asphalt. One wrong move or a slightly mistimed pit stop, and the entire weekend could have unraveled. But for those who stayed composed, the reward was significant. It’s the kind of performance that reinforces why this circuit remains one of the most prestigious stops on the Formula 1 calendar. Some drivers thrive under this specific type of pressure, while others simply crumble. That distinction is what separates the legends from the rest of the grid.

ruggedfox28 said:He’s clearly blinded by it... maybe even more than he is by his mom, which would explain why he’s posting this nonsense.

Honestly, this just perfectly illustrates the sheer desperation of Obrvan's fanbase. They love to lecture all of Kimi Räikkönen's fans about grasping at straws like they're searching for water in a desert, yet they fail to see that they’re doing the exact same thing with Obrvan himself. They are clinging to an internal team duel that is completely irrelevant and marginal in the grand scheme of the championship. But hey, I guess it's their only source of joy right now, because let's be real—they don't have a single other reason to celebrate. 🤣

You completely missed the mark there, buddy.

My take here is strictly objective and grounded in the data. Look, the situation isn't exactly ideal—nibbling away at four, five, or six positions isn't exactly winning championships—but it is what it is. Personally, I don't see the issue. There can only be one champion, and while Fernando Alonso certainly isn't going to take that title, he’s definitely not going to endure any humiliation either (he'll likely just demolish his teammate). Your guy, on the other hand, might end up walking away with neither.

stormybadger8 said:Do you even realize how ridiculous you sound?
If Alonso had just three or four seconds less to make up, he would've pulled off something magical by slicing right past Ricciardo and Kimi Räikkönen.🤣
Give it a rest. Overtaking in Monaco is a nightmare even for a team like Mercedes, let alone Ferrari.

If Fernando Alonso had actually been able to outpace Daniel Ricciardo, he probably would've finished ahead of him instead of trailing behind.
Only you would find some kind of prestige in Kimi Räikkönen finishing ahead of Daniel Ricciardo.🤣

Aside from demonstrating a fundamental lack of sports knowledge, you’re also incredibly rushed and clearly struggling to grasp the point. And no, this isn't an insult—it's just a direct response to your take on my comment.

Look, buddy, I made my point pretty clear in my previous post—maybe you should give it another read? I specifically stated that Kimi Räikkönen wouldn't have overtaken him on track; the only way that switch happens is through the standard pit stop cycles, which never occurred because of the Safety Car. I also pointed out that while it would be a tough sell for Fernando Alonso, it's actually a much more likely scenario for Daniel Ricciardo.

Here’s how I see it. Facts. What I said was a fact, not some made-up story. Honestly, it’s hilarious how Kimi Räikkönen's fans immediately lost their minds—just like you did. It was predictably impulsive.

Look, man, that doesn't mean any of this is actually going to happen in reality. It just highlights the obvious fact that both Daniel Ricciardo and Fernando Alonso managed to pull themselves away tactically. They created that gap between themselves and Kimi Räikkönen, which then allowed them to start closing in on him at the exact same time and pace.

I didn't bother digging deep into exactly where Kimi Räikkönen would have ended up on track after his pit stop, nor did I stress over whether those two actually had the pace to close that gap once they were out. I was simply stating that it would be incredibly easy for them to do so. It was obvious Kimi wasn't looking good, and it was clear those two were catching him with zero effort.

And then I have to sit through all that nonsense about how Kimi Räikkönen had good pace, LOL.

gentlecobra23 said:Kimi's race pace was perfectly fine until the SC hit...

If he hadn't been swallowed up by the Marussia, we wouldn't have seen that circus toward the end of the race. He actually finished strong considering he had to pit three times...

Perfectly fine? Sure. But the real question is whether it was good enough. Compared to his teammate, Kimi had built up a lead of exactly 7 seconds by lap 16—which, given what happened next, isn't exactly the luckiest timing, but he earned it with a solid start. After lap 16, leading up to the SC, Fernando Alonso managed to shrink that gap down to 3.3 seconds.

It's obvious that Alonso let the gap widen just to preserve his tires, hoping to make a move in the lap or two following Kimi's pit stop (since Kimi would naturally pit first). Daniel Ricciardo played it exactly the same way. He let the gap reach a maximum of 4 seconds at lap 16, then started chipping away at it so that by the time the SC came out, he was right on his tail.

Looking at the data, it’s clear that besides a decent start and restart, the Spaniard didn't have particularly impressive pace—I'd go as far as saying it was poor. It’s highly questionable whether he could have even held off those two. He might have held off Alonso, but holding off the Australian would have been a stretch.

At the same time, I get why Kimi's fans saw yesterday's performance as a drop of rain in the desert, because everything he's shown so far has been nothing but a desert. However, looking at the facts, I wouldn't be celebrating if I were a fan. Kimi clearly hasn't mastered the Ferrari yet.

darkmarlin16 said:Since I’m being objective here, I’ll say Kimi Raikkonen was actually faster than Fernand during the first part of the race leading up to the second SC.

Beyond that, who knows? But thanks to his blunder, he basically handed Jules Bianchi those points. 👍

I'm not even sure about that. It really comes down to how things would have played out if there hadn't been an SC. Just as dustycyclist19 started losing that lead, Daniel Ricciardo was already breathing down his neck. My guess is they both were just nursing their tires and trying to hang on for one or two more laps. Ricciardo would have definitely overtaken him, and while it would've been harder for dustycyclist19, it wasn't impossible.

Kimi had a fantastic start and pulled off a phenomenal move on Ricciardo during that first restart, but if his pace had been truly insane...

stormybadger8 said:I stumbled upon some pretty interesting data...

The real question is how much weight there actually is to this theory.🤷

If it’s true, then Williams has a massive advantage over the field. According to this, they aren't just saving a little bit; they're supposedly running on less than 90 kg of fuel while everyone else is likely sitting right at the 100 kg mark...

Are you suggesting that gap is as massive as the difference between Sebastian Vettel and the rest of the pack? We're talking about 10kg here. If anything, the discrepancy is even wider because he stays consistently 10kg lighter...

ruggedfox28 said:..which is still 2 behind Sebastian Vettel 😉

Spot on observation, ruggedfox28. I'd just add that some people are trailing by 3, and somehow, a few others are sitting 4 behind

Joshua Scott said:I’m certain Fernando Alonso will win the championship... just never! ☕

But buddy, Alonso already has two championships under his belt.

George Anderson5 said:Man, the amount of bickering here is endless.
Yesterday's race was just more proof for me that results mostly come down to the car. How else do you explain Daniel Ricciardo suddenly looking like he’s on par with Sebastian Vettel in a machine that’s been built specifically around Sebastian Vettel’s preferences for years? I say this because he spent the whole race hovering just seconds behind him, and I’d pin that 13-second gap entirely on the tire difference during that stint.
Regarding the car rankings, I think the results speak for themselves:
1. Mercedes
2. Red Bull Racing
3. Ferrari
4. McLaren
5. Williams Racing

The only outlier was Nico Hulkenberg in F1, thanks to his strategy and, obviously, his driving.
If Kimi hadn't had that contact with Kevin Magnussen, he probably would have finished 5th or 6th, and Magnussen might have ended up right behind Hulkenberg if it weren't for the penalty.
It’s funny how some people act like there are way more experts on this forum than there are in the actual F1 garages or pit boxes.
If only people would just admit, "Hey, I'm rooting for this guy, and this is just my opinion."
I'll give stormybadger8 credit here, though; it’s always obvious who his favorites are.
Not too long ago, people were claiming Renault had the best and most efficient engine—you could tell just by the sound—but now they’re either saying it isn't true or acting like it never was. Their aerodynamics have always been their strength, which showed during those wet qualifying sessions and why Sebastian Vettel stayed so close.
In the race, they didn't stand a chance against Mercedes, just like nobody else did.
If Mercedes really wanted to, they probably would have pulled away even faster than they did.
Who knows, maybe they told Nico Rosberg to let Sebastian Vettel through and save his tires instead of punishing them immediately after the pit stop, promising he could overtake him later anyway.
But even then, Sebastian Vettel didn't get a real shot before Nico Rosberg pulled away after three or four laps.
All in all, it's still early in the season—lots of unknowns and testing left to do.
One big unknown is Williams. If the telemetry is accurate, they had the lowest fuel consumption, so why didn't they push harder in those last 10 laps?
Either they hit a wall, or the data is wrong.

Regarding Williams, there are a few reasons. They are definitely faster than McLaren, and likely faster than Ferrari and Force India too. Unfortunately, they got stuck right behind McLaren since they’re using the same Mercedes power unit, and to make matters worse, they got held up by Felipe Massa.

Valtteri Bottas was clearly faster yesterday. That doesn't necessarily mean he would have overtaken Jenson Button, but he certainly would have been more competitive than Felipe Massa.

So, it was a mix of unfortunate circumstances and unfortunate drivers.

stormybadger8 said:I said Alonso was the best. Good joke.🤣🤣 🤣
Maybe you just started following this two days ago.😬

Another thing is, I don't call Alonso a fraud or trash him, because I actually believe he belongs in the absolute elite tier of drivers—maybe even the current top three.

lol, "maybe even."

Look, there’s no difference between saying Webber is better than Alonso or claiming Alonso is a total fraud. Your attempt at subtle trolling doesn't make it any less of a troll.

Another race, another complete snooze fest. I’m sitting here debating whether to stir the pot or just stay quiet... decided to pass. I'll just stick to congratulating whoever takes pole.

I never thought I’d actually be rooting for his wins, but here we are—I’m celebrating them like they belong to Fernando Alonso.

That’s a decent little shot they posted on the Formula 1 app. By the way, has anyone actually bothered to pay for the premium subscription?

https://twitter.com/alo_oficial/stat...05596548546561

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I’m definitely staying in the Padock

After swallowing my pride for the fourth year running, this feels like actual therapy 😁

Props to Vettel for an incredible drive, regardless of the absolute rocket he's piloting today.

Seriously, darkmarlin16, what's the point of posting the race time if I have to manually convert the time zone myself? It’s just extra work...

stormybadger8 said:Funny enough, it’s actually true, and I think I’m one of the more objective guys here.🤣
The only one who shows up on threads like this and stays actually objective is Jim Clark...
As for the rest? Rarely. It’s not like they don't take sides, but seeing someone stay neutral is a total rarity—and honestly, it's pretty pathetic.😁

Of course....