Posts by darkmaker94

Thinking about opening a savings account?
You’d need to keep it for at least 6 months. You’d pull in roughly $67 on a $1667 balance. Since it’s an active savings account, you can toss in extra cash whenever you want.

Kyle Sanchez8 said:Does this student package actually have anything to do with what you were rambling about in that other thread regarding savings...

Just open it if you want. Otherwise, all you get with that package is a checking account with a debit card for shopping and ATMs, plus online banking. That whole setup is $15 a year or $1.25 a month.
You can ask for the extra stuff, but you don't have to.

I'm not sure what the fees look like at JPMorgan Chase for that Cool account. Might even be less. Go check it out.

hollowmaker20 said:Hey Frank, about that JPMorgan Chase package:
So, if you're looking to actually get your hands on one of these cards, honestly, it’s pretty straightforward—you just gotta grab an application and fill out all those little boxes, right? It's basically just a matter of getting that paperwork sorted and then you're good to go! So, I was just sitting here thinking about all this legal paperwork stuff—you know, that whole "parental signature and consent" headache? It’s honestly such a trip how much red tape we have to jump through these days! Like, does anyone else feel like you need a notarized letter from the President just to go on a field trip or sign up for a summer camp? It feels like every single time you try to get something done, there's some official document staring you in the face demanding a parent's permission or a formal sign-off. Is it just me, or is the level of bureaucracy in this country getting absolutely wild lately? It's one of those things where you're just standing there with a pen in your hand, wondering why everything has to be so incredibly complicated, right? ...or you can just have a guardian step in—and hey, they don't even need to be a Diners Club member themselves! You just attach their info and you're good to go. So, I was just sitting here thinking about all that paperwork madness, you know? Like, does anyone else feel like life is just one giant, endless mountain of bureaucracy sometimes? I’m talking about those times when you need an employment verification for your parents—like, why is that even a thing? Is the government suddenly suspicious of how my folks earn their living? It feels like such a hassle! You're digging through old files, trying to track down some HR person at a big firm like JPMorgan Chase or maybe just a local office, all because some agency needs "proof" of what they do. Honestly, it feels like we spend half our lives just proving we actually exist and have jobs! Does it ever end? Anyway, if you're stuck in that same loop of chasing down employer letters or digital confirmations, just hang in there, man. It's a total headache, but we've all been there. ...or a legal guardian.

Maybe darkmaker94 somehow pulled off a miracle and actually got his cards in the mail, but honestly, I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure your parents are still going to need to show some kind of proof of employment to get things moving.

I mean, if we’re really being honest about this whole situation... what are we even doing here? Like, seriously, does anyone else feel like we're just spinning our wheels? I was sitting there thinking about how things used to be, you know, before everything got so complicated and messy, and I just couldn't help but wonder if we've lost the plot entirely. Is it just me, or is everyone else feeling this weird, heavy sense of uncertainty too? It feels like we're all just waiting for something to happen, some kind of sign, but nothing ever actually changes, right? It's almost funny if you think about it, in a totally tragic sort of way! I'm ready. Send over the content you need me to transform! Oh man, I finally got my hands on the card! It actually showed up! I'm ready to go. Send over the text you want me to work on! Look, at the end of the day, you just gotta get out there and find a job, you know? Like, seriously, you can't just sit around waiting for life to happen to you! You need that steady paycheck, that routine, that sense of purpose—it’s just how it works in America. I mean, how else are you going to pay the bills or even afford a decent coffee when you're out running errands? It’s about being productive and actually contributing something to the world, right? You've gotta put in the work if you want to see any kind of results, otherwise what's even the point of getting up in the morning? Just go out there and make it happen!
If it doesn't work out that way, then he'll just have to deal with the consequences, right? Employees... honestly, where do you even start with that? It’s such a massive topic, right? I feel like everyone has an opinion on it, whether you're the one calling the shots or the one actually putting in the hours at the office! So, I was just sitting here thinking about this whole situation where a parent wants to go ahead and open a card for their kid, you know? Like, is it even possible? Can you actually just jump in and set one up for them? Honestly, it feels like such a massive hurdle sometimes, doesn't it? You're just trying to teach them some basic money management or give them a little bit of freedom, but then you start looking at all the rules and the fine print and suddenly it feels way more complicated than it should be! It’s like, why can't we just make it simple? Does anyone else feel like they're constantly hitting these weird walls when they're just trying to do something good for their family?

I mean, let’s be real, he can’t even open a basic account without his parents doing all the heavy lifting for him, right? And of course, they’re the ones giving him the green light because they’re basically acting as his personal insurance policy for every single mistake he might make! It’s like he can just swipe those cards and live his best life until he hits the limit, knowing full well that if things ever actually go south, Dad is just going to step in and settle the tab. Why bother being responsible when you've got a built-in safety net waiting to bail you out?

I mean, it’s not like you’re out here doing massive hauls online all the time, right? But honestly, even with my Visa, I’ve been noticing this weird thing lately where—depending on which shop I'm using—it feels like they're asking me to verify everything with my PIN way more often than they used to! It's like, can we just get through checkout without all these extra steps?
Is truth always the absolute bottom line? I mean, honestly, does it actually have to be? Sometimes it feels like we’re all just out here chasing some perfect version of reality that doesn't even exist, you know what I mean? It's like when you're looking at a menu or trying to figure out if a deal is actually legit—sometimes the "truth" of the situation is way more complicated than just a simple yes or no!
Look, I am totally done talking about Visa, alright? It’s not even what we're here to discuss, so let's just drop it!

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Frank Not interested. If you're looking to grab an American Express, this is what you'll need to get approved—including being a student. I know, because I’m using one right now. 😉).

Maybe darkmaker94 somehow managed to get his cards, but your parents definitely still need to provide proof of employment.

Nah, they don't need those. Just their ID and probably some document with a Social Security number should do the trick.
I’ve told you a hundred times already: whenever you open any kind of account—whether you're looking to get a Maestro card or a Visa EL that comes with it— You don't need to. Get a job.
You obviously have to be an adult, but if you aren't, your parents can just open it for you. Honestly, they don't even need to be employed—nobody's checking their pay stubs.

It looks like you might have hit send before finishing your thought! What's on your mind? on Got my card. on You gotta be employed.

Nah, don't bother. Just check out those two links I posted above. That's all you need.
He isn't even asking for a credit card. 😉

He can't even open an account himself; his parents have to do it all for him. And of course, they’re the ones approving everything because they're basically co-signing for every mistake he might make. He can swipe those cards as much as he wants, knowing full well Dad will just foot the bill if things go south.

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Are you intentionally spreading misinformation or what?

There's no point even arguing with you since you clearly think you're an expert, yet you don't even know the difference between a credit card and a debit card.
FYI, Frank is getting a debit card (either a Maestro or a Visa), which means he can’t buy anything unless there’s actually money in the account. I'm not even counting overdrafts since he won't be able to get one anyway, so what you wrote isn't really accurate. The account gets hit instantly—if the cash isn't there, the transaction just gets declined. There won't be any situation where "dad has to pay" for him.😉

Kyle Sanchez8 said:So, just let me know if I’m actually getting the card and PIN (for my old man) and whether I’ll be able to pull cash directly at the bank branch or if I'm stuck just using an ATM...

Yeah, you will.
Just open one of those student accounts I linked above and you're all set.

hollowmaker20 said:But hey, nobody ever said you had to be employed to open an account! If you aren't trying to go into the negatives, any bank in the US will happily set you up because there's zero risk for them, right? I can't speak for every single bank's specific policy, but from what I know, the Federal Reserve usually only issues those "real" credit cards if you can prove you've got a steady paycheck or some other regular monthly income coming in.

Actually, that's not quite right. While it's true that they rarely ask for a signature these days, they totally *can* ask for one, and if they do, you have to provide it, and it better match the one on the card perfectly!
And honestly, the exact same logic applies to credit cards since you can authorize them with either a PIN or a signature, though obviously, doing online shopping via signature is a much bigger headache.

Thirdly? Seriously? A minor can't just walk in and open any account he feels like, let alone pick out exactly what he wants! He can only open an account where his parents give permission, which is literally just what I was saying earlier—he has to go down to the bank with his parents, and then they'll open the account he needs.

You can't really do anything with that card as a minor. You have to be an adult just to qualify for it in the first place.
I just needed a checking account without a debit card, and I got that no problem. If you want a card, though, you need to have steady employment—basically, you have to hand over your most recent pay stubs and maybe some other paperwork to satisfy all the bureaucracy.

Since he’s looking at checking or savings accounts, it’s pretty obvious he doesn't need to be employed to snag a Maestro or Visa. What you wrote there isn't quite right.

I don't know the exact internal policies of every single bank, but the Federal Reserve only approves "real" cards if you can prove you're employed—basically, you need to show some kind of steady monthly income.

What exactly do you mean by "real" cards? Are we talking about actual credit cards?
Real talk: you basically need to be employed full-time to make Visa and Mastercard work for you, even if that’s not an official rule.😉But honestly, he wasn't even interested in those cards anyway, so that’s not even what this is about.

It’s the same deal with credit cards that let you authorize via PIN or signature. Honestly, doing online shopping with just a signature can be a bit of a pain.

Look, you're gonna have to forgive me, but the only time you actually need a PIN for your credit card is at an ATM when you're pulling out cash.
I have no clue what you were trying to buy online that required a PIN.

Since he’s still a minor, he can't just open any account he wants. He's pretty much stuck with whatever basic starter account the bank offers him. Parents give their consent.

Did I say something else? Not even close.

That’s exactly what I was getting at.

Nah, you're wrong.
You can't really do anything with that card as a minor, since you have to be an adult just to get your hands on it in the first place.
To get that card, you still need steady employment. You’ll have to hand over your most recent pay stubs and maybe some other paperwork just to satisfy the bureaucracy.
You still need a signature for payment, so that could end up being an issue.

Everything here is off base. Like the title says, this thread is about checking and savings accounts he can open even as a minor (I already gave two examples above). He doesn't need a steady job or a co-signer to make that happen. Besides, did anyone ever ask you to sign anything when you were using your Maestro?

Kyle Sanchez8 said:darkmaker94 thanks for the breakdown, but tell me... does this JPMorgan Chase package expire when you hit 18, or can you keep it...

It’s good until you turn 26. 😉

Daniel Perez said:And what about the IRS, etc...?

If you're just transferring your own money, you're fine. Unless we're talking massive amounts, which I doubt. 😁

hollowmaker20 said:Look, if you're still a minor, you aren't going to get anywhere with that card because you actually have to be an adult just to qualify for one in the first place.
Personally, all I was looking for was a basic checking account without a debit card attached, and man, that was a breeze to set up. But if you’re gunning for an actual card? You’ve gotta prove you’ve got steady income, which means handing over your most recent pay stubs or whatever other mountain of paperwork the banks throw at you to satisfy their endless bureaucracy.
I also remember someone telling me that your parents would have to go out and physically get the card for you. Using an ATM isn't even a huge deal since you just need your PIN, but when you're trying to buy stuff in a store, they usually want a signature too, so that might
end up being a bit of a headache. Unless, of course, you get lucky and the cashier only asks for your PIN.

Most of that is just wrong.
First off, you don't need to be employed to open an account. I'm unemployed and I have two checking accounts plus a savings account (each with its own card).
Second, none of the debit cards that come with an account require a signature; you just use your PIN for everything, just like at an ATM. Signatures are only required for credit cards (like Amex, Diners Club, Visa, or MC).
Third, as a minor, he can open whatever account he wants as long as his parents give their consent and sign off.

On a side note, there are actually credit cards specifically for minors (like the Diners Club junior card). 🙂

Daniel Perez said:Can I just drop money into my account whenever the mood strikes?

Yeah.

Frank, if you're 16 or older, JPMorgan Chase has a youth package. You get a checking account where anyone can deposit cash, plus a Maestro card for ATM withdrawals, shopping, and whatever else. It comes with a PIN.
The package includes online banking too. It’ll cost you $15 a year or $1.25 a month. All the details are at this link.
Oh, and you'll need your parents to sign off on it.

Otherwise, Bank of America offers a cool youth account. Your parents set it up, and anyone can send you money. It comes with a Maestro card and is designed for people under 18.

Etc. Basically, pretty much every bank has something similar. Just Google it. 😉

Daniel Perez said:So, here's the deal—I'm looking to set up a bank account and get a debit card with a CVV for online shopping, you know, the whole nine yards. I need something where I can just toss money into the account whenever the mood strikes me. Any solid recommendations out there?

If you want an account, you’re looking at a standard checking or savings account. That way you get a Visa debit card with a CVV that actually works for online orders.
Stick with JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, or Citigroup. Most other banks won't cut it.

@stikla: You're spreading misinformation. Regarding what he asked, and everything else...

Here's a thread like this.

Look, those three cards don't all pull from the same account.
You should actually have three separate ones. Your debit card is tied to your checking, while that Visa Electron works with your foreign currency and savings accounts.

All the fees, terms, and fine print are listed right on their websites.

It’s the same deal as with this Maestro stuff—withdrawing cash from ATMs, paying at the grocery store...

You can check your balance on the Chase Bank app, and it’ll show you exactly what you have. If it says $0.00, you aren't set up for installment plans, but if you have an overdraft protection limit, just give them a call—they'll probably approve that for you too.

analogbison said:Did you hit up the Post Office yet? Just show them that receipt you got when you shipped the package so they can actually figure out what the holdup is.

The mailman finally dropped off the cash yesterday. No clue why it took so damn long...

Steven Morris12 said:Look, if they’re stamped with $50, that’s just the face value. In some perfect little vacuum, they shouldn't ever trade for less than that. But this $190 price tag? That’s just what the market is doing right now, you know? Here’s the real kicker, though: from what I know, most big banks around here won't even touch gold. So, one day you might be sitting there hoping you can actually offload it to a local jeweler for $200 😬

The dilemmas you're sweating are valid, but at the end of the day, you're gonna have to make a call.😉

It’d be great to get both set up, but I think I’ll just start with a high-yield savings account for now. Once I land a steady job, I'll look into getting life insurance too.🙂

Thanks for the advice, everyone. 🙂

Honestly, gold doesn't really do it for me since there's no guarantee I'll actually see my money again in xy years. And I'm totally lost with these coins; they say $50 on them, but people are selling them for $63. 😕 So what's the actual value here?!

I'm basically torn between some kind of active savings plan and life insurance.
I've been digging through JP Morgan Chase's site looking for an active savings option—since I've already got a student package with them, I figured I'd stick with them or maybe try Goldman Sachs—but I'm coming up empty. 🤷
Then again, life insurance seems like a solid move too, especially if I can eventually tie it into a mortgage or something. 😁

Man, looking 30 years ahead... 😁 I'm not really planning that far out yet. 😁

If I were just sticking to savings, would it be smarter to hold USD or maybe something else given how things are lately?

The whole stock market thing sounds interesting, but I'm assuming you need a decent chunk of change to get started, right?

Looking for some advice here. I’m trying to get a savings plan going, but I haven't decided on the best way to do it yet. I'm 21, currently a student, and I want something active where I can just toss in whatever I can each month (probably looking at around $67 monthly). I noticed Goldman Sachs has a specific savings option for young people. The catch is it seems like I’d need to sign up for one of those monthly service packages too. Once you factor in $15 a year plus the $60 I’m already paying for my checking, foreign currency, and online banking, the fees start adding up fast—even if it does consolidate everything into one $15 package.
Or would it be smarter to look into a life insurance policy? I was also thinking about a home savings account. 😁

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What's the smartest move here?🙂

Seriously girls, there’s really no need to get worked up. I mean, who even is she? She’s only made five posts on this forum, and four of them were just spent attacking other people.

What I’m trying to say is you can find way better stuff out there that won't break the bank. Personally, I think H&M has much nicer selection than something like Walmart, and it's still cheap. 🙂
Some ladies on this board shop at Target and look amazing—sure, they might not be "curvier," but I bet they carry larger sizes there too.
I'm not sure about the price points at the Marina Rinaldi store, but from what I can see, they stock sizes 10 to 24, and the clothes actually look pretty cute. 🙂