Jason Vaughn482 said:It really isn't that significant, and frankly, I'm at a loss. I can't say for certain about the birth control, but truly, 15 mg of Mirzaten shouldn't be the reason for such a shift. In my own experience, I was taking 1.5 mg of Xanax daily alongside 10 mg of Sanval, on top of the Mirzaten, yet my liver enzyme tests came back perfectly fine. Now, I've managed to cut both my Xanax and Mirzaten doses in half, leaving only the Sanval/Cerson at its original strength.
I doubt it's the Mirzaten, or the painkillers, or even birth control. My OBGYN said it wasn't the pill, but who knows if I can trust him when he's probably getting kickbacks for prescribing it.🕺No clue how long it takes for the liver to actually recover from all this.
Jason Vaughn482 said:As for me, I've been on Mirzaten for three years now, with a brief hiatus included. I spent a year on 15 mg, stopped, and then because I couldn't sleep without something like Ambien, I returned to the fold—though this time it was actually Calixt, which is essentially the same thing. I've transitioned to a half-dose, so I'm currently taking 7.5 mg twice a day along with either Ambien or Cerston. During the day, I take Xanax only as needed; in fact, I didn't even think to take it today. So, in my experience, the idea that you can't get off it or that tolerance builds up instantly doesn't quite hold true—I suppose it depends on the individual's biology. I've been using it for five years, never exceeding 1.5 mg at a time, and I take 20 mg of Portal every other day. That might sound like a lot, especially since I'm also managing blood pressure medication, but despite all of this, my liver function tests always come back clean. I get my blood drawn frequently specifically to monitor my liver markers, so I find it quite strange that your values increased from 15 mg of Mirzaten. Exactly how much did they rise? And are you taking anything else? Those elevations could easily be attributed to painkillers or even alcohol.
I'm on 15 mg Mirtazapine, 0.25 mg xanax, and I was on birth control when I had my blood drawn. I don't bother with painkillers in the summer because my sinuses settle down. Also taking magnesium and calcium supplements from Naturalvelth, and I wasn't really drinking much at the time. I know people who pop 20 pills a day without an issue. Honestly, it doesn't seem worth panicking over—just a slight increase. I'm just wondering what caused it. What kind of pills were they? So I can avoid them.
Just my two cents on Mirzaten. It actually helped me, but it took forever—nearly a year before I felt anything. Honestly, the whole "works in 2 to 5 weeks" thing sounds like nonsense based on my experience with Deprozel too. I almost quit, but after all the bad experiments I've been through, I figured I’d give it at least a year before moving on to something else. For me, it helps a little with sleep, but it’s not the miracle cure people claim. Its real value was giving me the drive to actually get out of bed early instead of just rotting there until noon. Once you start being productive and exercising, you actually fall asleep around 11 or midnight and wake up at 8. To be clear, I still wake up a few times a night, but I don't reach for Xanax anymore; I just read a book until I drift off. That's a win. I'm tapering off the Xanax slowly—currently at 0.25mg half in the morning and half at night, but the evening dose is next to go. I've also started caring about what I eat and drink, which is good for my ulcers. My only vice left that messes with my stomach is coffee, but I limit it to one cup. I probably shouldn't even have that one, but whatever, some things are hard to quit. I stopped drinking entirely (I used to drink way too much every single day during my depression, it's embarrassing to even think about) and I stopped popping painkillers for headaches. My willpower feels stronger now. Maybe it's the meds, or maybe I just finally realized I couldn't live like that anymore. I'm slowly fixing my health, teeth, sinuses... leaning more into natural stuff lately. It’s not all sunshine, though. I’ve become hyper-aware of my body and the signals it sends when something might be wrong. Now I'm paranoid about every pill I take because my last two blood tests showed my liver enzymes—the ones that track medication load—are slightly elevated. Nothing to panic over, but my doctor told me to watch it. So, I cut out everything I could, like birth control and painkillers. If those levels spike again, I’m sticking strictly to the essentials (Mirzaten 15 mg and Xanax 0.25.). Sorry for the wall of text, just wanted to be thorough. Hope this helps someone decide if they want to try it or not.🕺
Just my thoughts on Mirzaten. It helped me quite a bit, but it took forever—nearly a year—to actually kick in. Honestly, that was the same story with Deprozel, so all those claims about feeling better in 2 to 5 weeks don't mean much to me. I actually thought about quitting, but after so many bad experiences and failed experiments, I figured I’d give it at least a year before moving on to something else. For me, it helps slightly with sleep, but it's not the miracle cure people claim. Its real value was finally giving me the drive to get out of bed early and actually use my day instead of just rotting in bed until noon. Once you start getting up early, working out, and staying active, you naturally crash around 11 PM or midnight and wake up by 8 AM. To be fair, I still wake up a few times during the night, but I don't reach for Xanax anymore; I just read a book until I drift off. That’s a win. I’m slowly tapering off the Xanax; I'm down to 0.25 mg in the morning and half a pill at night, but I'll be cutting that evening dose soon too. I've started caring more about my body—what I eat and drink (which helps with my ulcers). My one remaining vice that's bad for my stomach is coffee, but I limit myself to just one cup; any more and it hits me hard. Not that I should even have that one cup, but whatever, some things are hard to quit. I stopped drinking entirely (there was a period where I drank way too much every single day because of the depression—honestly, I'm embarrassed to even think about it), and I stopped popping painkillers for headaches. I guess my willpower has gotten stronger. Maybe it's the meds, or maybe it was just a sudden realization that I couldn't live like that anymore. I've been slowly fixing my health, teeth, sinuses... leaning more into natural stuff lately. It's not all perfect, though. I've become hyper-aware of my body and the signals it sends when something is wrong. Now I'm actually nervous about every pill I swallow because my last two blood tests showed my liver enzymes were slightly elevated—nothing to panic over, but my doctor told me to watch it. So, I cut out everything I could, like birth control and painkillers. If those levels spike again, I’m strictly sticking to the essentials (Mirzaten 15 mg and Xanax 0.25). Sorry for the wall of text. Just wanted to be thorough. Hope this helps someone decide if they want to try this stuff or not.🕺
Jason Vaughn482 said:I’ve been taking it for three years, though I take frequent little breaks and don't actually stick to the prescribed 15mg dose. Instead, I only take half of that, strictly to help with sleep. My head often aches, but that’s been an issue since way before I started this, mostly because my cervical spine is absolutely shot, but I haven't dealt with any infections. I haven't even gained much weight—maybe just five or six pounds—and I never felt terrible from it, not even at the beginning, aside from that heavy "hangover" feeling in the morning. My only real anxiety is that since it's a newer antidepressant, it might not be fully studied yet; I’d hate to get settled in only to realize I have to toss the whole thing out just to get a decent night's sleep. If it’s causing those specific symptoms for you, you really ought to tell your doctor to pull you off it. How long have you been on it, and what dosage are we talking about?
Lowest dose possible. Been at it for two years. Not exactly a genius.🙂 Got an allergic rhinitis diagnosis. Haven't dealt with allergies this bad in years. Honestly, I think my immune system's just giving up on me. Body's acting up again. Allergies are back. Hope this actually makes sense.
Anyone here been on Mirzaten for the long haul, like 2 years or more? I started getting these brutal headaches about three months in. I read somewhere that taking Mirzaten can mess with your immune system, and honestly, I’ve been fighting this sinus infection for almost six months now. Just wondering if Mirzaten is actually the reason I can't shake these constant infections—the sore throats, fevers, headaches, all that junk.
quietfox384 said:If they aren't manufacturing them anymore—then naturally, you can't just go out and demand them from anyone. It’s a simple matter of supply and demand, isn't it? I haven't heard anything about them being prescribed at the moment—not that I know of, anyway. 🤷 Logest/Lindynette—have you ever actually given that a shot? Unfortunately—and I say this with genuine empathy—finding the right medication can sometimes feel like playing a game of pure chance. It’s a bit of a lottery, isn't it? You try one, then another, hoping that eventually, you'll stumble upon the specific pill that actually works for your body.
I tried Lindynette once and was a total wreck. I was picking fights with everyone—just pure irritability. A complete nightmare. Now I’m on Trinil, but my period starts seven days before I even finish the pack, and then it drags on after I stop. And I take them on time. Well, maybe I'm an hour late occasionally.
Anyone know if they still stock those older generation pills (Steridil)? I never had a single issue with them. This new stuff is a total disaster—they claim they’re "gentler" or whatever, but they do absolutely nothing for me. Makes you wonder if the doctors prescribing these newer brands like Yaz or Yasmin are getting kickbacks from the manufacturers just to push them. I can't even get my guy to prescribe my old ones since they supposedly aren't used anymore.😠
Such a killer movie, just non-stop action👍. The characters are great, and the lead is honestly smoking hot.🙂 The first one was alright, but it leaned way too hard into the drama. This one’s got some solid actors—mostly TV talent this time around—but they actually kill it.👍👍
Zachary Stewart2 said:So, when does the fallout usually actually hit?
I just quit my AD on my own because it was killing me more than the depression did. The fallout hit a few months later—got a stomach ulcer, started drinking every single day just to stay level, and ended up mixing it all with Xanax. Real fun. It led to waking up in the middle of the night with these massive bouts of derealization, feeling totally disconnected from reality for about three months... So I switched to a different AD that actually works. No more drinking, cut back on the Xanax, and I'm tapering off the Zoloft now. Just take it once in a while.
Didn't like the movie. And Kit Harington? His mouth is just... ugh. That girl he supposedly "falls for" is a disaster—huge head, weird ears, and I didn't see any chemistry between them at all. Honestly, feels like they were tossed in at the last minute because the studio panicked when they realized the volcano eruption wasn't enough. He had more chemistry with the horse than with her. Same here. I don't know about you guys, but I was cracking up when Kiefer started speaking with that English accent.😂Terrible. Not the role for him. Just a bunch of famous actors thrown together with zero connection to anything.🤷Then I saw who directed it and everything clicked.☕At least they didn't have some woman flying around the place.☕
Noah Watson32 said:First time posting here, so I’m kind of flying blind on how to even start this... I've been living on antidepressants since back in 2006. Started out on Paxil, Helex, and Sanval. Over the years, I pretty much stuck with just the Paxil. I tried tapering off a few times with my doctor, but honestly, the second we started dropping the dose, I felt like absolute trash. Plus, I put on a lot of weight. But hey, whatever, I’d basically made peace with the idea that I’d just be popping these pills for the rest of my life. Then, everything hit the fan this year. Back in February, my son—he's in elementary school—got diagnosed with Type 1 diabetes. Even with the Paxil, I just crumbled. Between that, a rough marriage, money troubles, and all those other everyday stressors most people deal with, I just couldn't take it. "I barely made it through" that whole hospital stretch with him. Once we finally got home, I saw my psychiatrist, and he switched me over to Effexor 35.5 plus some Helex as needed. I started the Effexor about a month ago. For the first week, I was taking one Effexor in the evening while still doing one Paxil in the morning. Now, it’s been 24 days of taking one Effexor in the morning and one at night. And look, I can't say it's going great. I’m constantly trying to force myself to get moving, but I just can't. My stomach is in knots—it feels like it's been through a blender—and my head just feels heavy. I’m spiraling a bit wondering what to do. I have to stay functional for my kids, but I feel like there's this invisible brake being pulled on me. Are these just side effects? Will it pass? Should I switch meds, or should I just grit my teeth and wait for things to get better? Maybe it’s a mistake on my part, but I try to avoid the Helex whenever I can, though I don't even know why. The only thing is, I do sleep, though I wake up twice a night to check my son's blood sugar levels. I fall back asleep, but then the mornings and the days just absolutely wreck me. I have so many responsibilities I’d love to just skip, but I have zero motivation. During the day, I can't even lie down to rest because I feel this constant restlessness. I feel so alone in this and I don't know how to help myself after all this time. The daily stress from a thousand different things just makes everything ten times harder, regardless of the meds. Sorry, I know this is a massive wall of text... please, if anyone has experience with Effexor, I really need some advice.
Hang in there. Those sound like typical side effects. A friend of mine was on Effexor and it basically brought her back to life. She used to never leave the house, couldn't do anything, and now... she's a different person. But she only takes hers in the morning.🤷
Jason Vaughn482 said:I honestly envy you. For me, this stuff doesn't even touch my anxiety anymore. It’s become a complete farce; I can take the exact same dose of Xanax that used to be my lifeline, and now it won't even help me drift off to sleep, let alone settle my nerves. It’s lost its edge entirely. It doesn't even touch my appetite anymore—which, if I’m being honest, is the one silver lining in this mess—but effectively, it does absolutely nothing. I find myself wondering if I should try stepping up to 30 mg, because even at a measly 15 mg, I feel like I'm walking around in a total fog, completely intoxicated. How long have you been on this regimen? I find myself constantly weighing the duration of these chemical interventions against the fleeting stability they supposedly provide.
A little over a year now. Haven't put on much weight since I'm out cycling and chopping wood every single day.🤣For the first six months, I dealt with some dizziness and blood pressure issues. If I stood up too fast, everything would just go black.
Jason Vaughn482 said:if you took it all day, you'd be sleeping through everything. that's why people usually take it at night, mostly for insomnia issues.
Yeah, but my issue isn't even sleep. It doesn't really touch my insomnia, but it helps with other stuff. I slowly cut my Xanax down to just 25mcg—the lowest dose possible. Sometimes if someone's getting on my nerves or I'm stressed out, I'll take more, but that's becoming less common. That's the main thing. Plus, it actually helps my stomach. If I take it at night, I can finally eat something without my stomach cramping up from anxiety. The label says you can take it in the morning, but I figured I'd check with people who've actually been through it first.😉
Does anyone know if Remeron is just for nighttime, or can you take it in the morning too? I'm on the lowest dose at night and it's fine, but by the afternoon, I can already feel it wearing off.