Personal accounts of brief vs. permanent awakenings
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nimblewolf11 said:And honestly, it goes even deeper than that! Even the same person, just by shifting their perspective, can view the exact same phenomenon through completely different lenses. This means that one single occurrence could leave an observer feeling anything from a faint impression to something mid-range, or even incredibly intense...
But see, that's where you're tripping yourself up! You're incorrectly grouping other types of experiences into this "emotional" category as if emotion is the only source of experience. The truth is, those other experiences directly influence our emotions, the quality of our thoughts, and pretty much everything else—but we aren't talking about emotional rushes or similar whims as the primary experience here. What you're describing is actually a secondary consequence. I think maybe some people confuse various emotional sensations with things that exist entirely outside of emotion and imagination, and that leads them totally astray, but that's just not the case!
If, say, there really was a shift in consciousness—whether brief or long-lasting—then emotions and thoughts start to feel more like objects being observed—just something secondary in the "order" of things.
See, that’s exactly what I had to finally wrap my head around and accept—that everything is happening within me, that nothing exists outside of myself.
The circumstances stay exactly the same, yet my emotions toss me around from pure euphoria to deep, heavy depression in such a short window, sometimes even within the span of a single day. How is that even possible? Nothing in the external world changed, yet I’m cycling through this entire spectrum of states and I have no clue what the hell is going on!?! So then today I react violently to something, when yesterday I wouldn't have even blinked at it! 🤷
And the absolute worst part about it all is that, whether you mean to or not, your moods end up having a totally devastating impact on the people around you, and then you turn around and try to pin the blame on them for how you're feeling! It's awful! 😳
The perceived realities of this material world carry such weight, but they also possess this seductive pull toward taking the path of least resistance, which means a person really needs to, constantly, at every single moment, consciously observe themselves and the way they respond to the circumstances and situations in their life—at least until things balance out, or until the heart becomes the primary driver instead of the mind, and then everything starts sliding along smoothly like a cold drink down a parched throat. 😍
Peter Phillips32 said:That’s exactly why I jumped into this thread in the first place. ☕Look, nobody actually asked for your two cents, your unsolicited lectures, or all this negativity you're spewing. Nobody requested your little deep dive into stuff you haven't even lived through yourself, so I've gotta wonder—what's with this desperate need to meddle in everything?
And why on earth doesn't anyone ever bother asking the real question—like, where did all that supposed infinite love and deep connection with the universe go the second you actually had to deal with me?Look, nobody here is out here begging for help or acting all uncertain about anything, so I’ve gotta ask—what on earth are you even doing here? Seriously, you're hanging out in a thread where you clearly don't belong, adding absolutely zero value to the conversation, yet somehow you're still lurking around like you've got something to say... why?
Man, you just showered me with such an endless amount of love. Honestly, I’m already starting to feel this deep connection you have with everything out there—including, apparently, with me.
Come on, just keep loving me, please.I honestly don't even know where to start with this one because everything feels like such a massive, tangled mess, but here we go. I was sitting there thinking about how much energy people waste on trivialities when the whole damn structure of our reality is basically a house of cards waiting for a breeze, you know? It’s like everyone is running around in circles, completely oblivious to the fact that the floor isn't even solid under their feet. I mean, don't get me wrong, I'm probably just overthinking things—classic me, right?—but there's this pervasive sense that we're all just sleepwalking through this giant, simulated existence without even realizing the script has already been written. It’s exhausting just watching it happen, honestly. Anyway, I'm rambling, I know, but sometimes you just have to say the damn thing out loud before it drives you absolutely insane. says:
Look, you're totally tripping here—you’re making this massive mistake by trying to shove every other kind of experience into that "emotional" bucket like it's the only source of truth out there. Don't get me wrong, those other experiences definitely bleed into how we feel and they absolutely mess with the quality of our thoughts and pretty much everything else, but we aren't talking about some fleeting emotional high or whatever similar nonsense being the primary way we perceive reality. What you're describing is just a secondary reaction, a byproduct, if you will. I don't know, maybe some people just can't help but blur the line between actual emotional sensations and things that exist entirely outside of feelings and imagination, and they end up completely deluded about the whole thing, but honestly? That's just not how it works at all.
Why am I even bothering to explain myself if you just completely misread that part anyway? Seriously, it’s like talking to a brick wall sometimes. Anyway, here’s a dead simple question for you—pretty much identical to the one I asked before that you managed to totally butcher.
So, what exactly gives you the right to be so damn sure that your little theories about the supernatural are some kind of indisputable Truth, you know, with a capital T?
And just what exactly makes you think your core beliefs are any better or more "correct" than someone else's fundamental convictions when they’re spinning a completely different story about the supernatural?So, if we’re actually talking about a genuine shift in paradigm consciousness—I mean, if that thing really happens—then suddenly all those fleeting emotions and random thoughts just kind of lose their grip on you. They stop being this overwhelming storm and start feeling more like objects you're just observing from the sidelines, you know? Like they’re just secondary little things passing through the actual order of things.
So, what even is consciousness? Honestly, it’s one of those questions that makes you want to stare at a wall for three hours straight because once you start pulling on that thread, the whole sweater just unravels in your hands. It’s not just about being awake or staring blankly at a screen while scrolling through endless feeds; it’s that deeper, weirder thing—that internal flicker that makes you *you*. We spend our entire lives navigating this reality, bumping into things, making choices, and yet we can't quite pin down the essence of the thing itself. Is it just some biological byproduct of neurons firing off like crazy in your brain, or is there something more profound happening, something closer to a total paradigm consciousness? I don't know, man. I'm probably overthinking it, but sometimes you feel like you're on the edge of a massive awakening, only to realize you were just hungry and needed a burger. It's a trip.
What exactly is this thing in our paradigm consciousness that's supposedly capable of shifting around, and where exactly is it supposed to be moving to?
Why is it that some people can shift their paradigm consciousness just a little bit, while others can push it way further?
I mean, if someone can't even trigger that initial shift on their own, what exactly is the catalyst that finally makes that first movement happen?
And what does it actually look like when thoughts and emotions suddenly start appearing as things you're just observing from the outside?
What kind of cosmic order are we looking at if our own thoughts can just become secondary to us?
Where does this whole hierarchy of existence even take place?
Look, let's dive into this stuff so I can actually wrap my head around what you're getting at.
Well then, Peter, feel free to share your own experiences... and there's no need to label them as spiritual or call it an "awakening" if those terms don't sit right with you. 🥳
Words are such a flimsy tool for expressing what someone discovers deep inside themselves, for those sudden flashes of wisdom that emerge from the core and present a person with a finished fact—it just is! regardless of what we thought about it before. But we don't have any other tools, especially not here on the internet. 🤷
wearyowl29 said:I haven't become anything at all—I just hardened up and drifted off into the deep Atlantic.
I’m still sleeping through most of it; sometimes I’m just half-dreaming, and other times I slip into a total coma. I’m only truly awake for those brief moments when I have to get up to use the restroom so I don't walk into a wall.
Those flashes of awakening really get under my skin because it feels like everything is looping. A cantaloupe dreams it's moss, moss dreams it's a pig, and the pig dreams it's pure paradigm consciousness trapped inside a pork chop just so it doesn't end up on a backyard BBQ.
As for my own awakening... there is absolutely zero hope left.
Come on, come on, Nemruth Dag, it’s really not all as bleak as it might seem right now! 🙂
You know how it goes: expecting anything from someone else is just a form of slavery, while expecting things from yourself is true freedom. 😉
Besides, after the rain comes the sun, sooner or later, and even the darkest night is always at its worst right before the dawn breaks. 😁
Man, oh man...🤔 we are an American people, after all, and we've always been full of spirit!