Posts by Anthony Bailey

slyowl9 said:Look, personally? The movie was great. It’s one of those polarizing flicks—people either love it or absolutely hate it.
Honestly, I got more out of picking up a few books about Joan of Arc. Real history is way more gripping than fiction. As for her trial and execution, it was a total sham—a rigged setup orchestrated by the English with help from certain clergy members who were loyal to them (back when parts of northern France were under English rule for decades).

The whole trial—if you want to call an Inquisitor's court a trial—was a complete mess and violated basically every rule in the book. That's why a third trial was launched years after she died. The first one, like they showed in the movie, happened when she asked the King for an army; back then, the Inquisitor and his crew decided she actually WAS sent by God. So, they handed her the military command.
At that third hearing, her name was finally cleared, the previous convictions were overturned, and she was cemented as a national hero and all that nonsense...

To this day, there's a massive amount of historically verifiable facts preserved about her. If anyone actually cares about the real story, it’s easy enough to find.😎

So, yeah, that's the short version...

Hey slyowl9,👋 😘

Personally, Joan really hit home for me.
I'd heard the name before—just knew she was burned at the stake—but I never actually knew her life story.

After watching this movie, I became a total fan.
👍
And it even changed my perspective on France for the better (it used to seem like such a boring, maybe even sinister place 😳 ).

wiredpilot30 said:They’re all just people, and we’ve got one less psychopath wandering the earth. 😁

Joan of Arc wasn't a psychopath.
😉

Psychopaths are dangerous. They don't even realize other people exist around them, and they're aggressive as hell.

wiredpilot30 said:God forgave them; they didn't know what they were doing. 😁

Give me a break.
🙂

Look, if they were carrying around a Bible that lays out every single rule on right and wrong—then they’re the only people on this planet who actually had no excuse not to know. 😉
🙄

Sandra King86 said:I honestly think the whole thing boils down to the fact that he was married to Milla Jovovich back then. 😁

Haha
🙂

wiredpilot30 said:Look, this has nothing to do with God.😁

The ending is absolutely critical here. It proves the woman was totally unhinged, driven by nothing but pure hatred for the English.

That’s just my two cents.😳

No...
if you ask me,
that movie finale showed how twisted the church officials really were.
🙂

Burning a woman alive in some fake-ass trial while clutching a Book that literally commands you not to kill? Ridiculous.
😵

Dust said:Enough already. The woman is a legend, period. Sure, she was a bit eccentric, but a legend nonetheless.

I saw somewhere online that she’s basically a national hero over in France...

Does anyone actually know if the French hate the British because they were the ones who burned her at the stake?
😕
The British looked like total barbarians when it comes to that chapter of world history.
👎

Watching this movie honestly changed my entire perspective on France. I always figured the place was just boring and didn't have anything special going for it, 😳

wiredpilot30 said:The woman’s been dead for centuries... she doesn't have feelings anymore. 😁

My take? She was out of her mind.

The sheer idea that God gives a damn about some nation or its king is total nonsense. 😵

Sure,
but if you actually look at her impact on world history,
it's clear that without her, America wouldn't be what it is today.
😳

Plus, she insisted on notifying the English so they’d have a fair shot at leaving peacefully,
and she spent every single day in prayer. 😲
😳

Karmela said:is He God?

That’s a hell of a question.
😉

He could just as easily be the Devil for all we know.

But,
he still made her confess.
😳

velvetcrane85 said:I remember seeing this movie in theaters. I distinctly recall crying moments before, feeling that same kid-like excitement building up for it. I mean, you’ve got Luc Besson directing, plus Dustin Hoffman, John Malkovich, and Vincent Cassel—it should have been absolute gold. But Milla Jovovich? She’s a disaster. Every single one of her movies is the same thing: just endless whining, overacting, and pure nonsense. Honestly, anyone watching movies just because she's in them should just buy a poster and drool over the picture instead. Leave the acting to the professionals, because clearly, it’s not her lane.

😲

Wow, you're being harsh! 🙂

Well...
🤔
I actually think the movie would have turned out terrible if Milla had acted any differently—without that raw emotion.

Maybe you (and swiftmoose22) are just bored because you don't care about history or deeper themes.
😉

wiredpilot30 said:God 😂

Are you seriously talking about a character born out of her schizophrenia? 😁

It isn't schizophrenia,
because if it were, she wouldn't have recognized the king,
nor would the prophecy ever come true..
let alone succeed on the battlefield.. I mean, like she said herself—she has zero experience with combat. This is clearly supernatural.
😳

MaXI said:I honestly can't stand this movie,
and my issue is that I spent the entire runtime waiting for something—anything—to actually happen. It’s just non-stop slaughter. Just when you think you might see her in a gown at some gala, or catch a moment of reprieve, someone gets butchered. Then they get slaughtered again, and finally, she gets slaughtered... bad, bad, miserable...🙂

Ugh.
I wasn't even looking at it from that angle...

For me, the most significant part was the whole thing about her hearing voices and having a divine mission...

Plus, it was actually interesting because I didn't know the history. I had to look it up online the next day—I had no idea the British held territory right there in France, or that they were fighting the French on French soil. I always assumed it was more of a Cold War situation between them.

At least now I understand why there's so much tension today, similar to how we deal with our neighbors to the East.😁

Maxi said:They say the first one is supposed to be the best. Honestly? What am I even talking about?
The first one isn't even the worst. Unlike that absolute trash !!!!! they served up with the last two.
The third one is such absolute trash !!!!! My friend, my girlfriend, and I couldn't even last 15 minutes before we were done.
We practically bolted out of the theater, crying over the wasted cash. Honestly, I could've just handed that money to the Jehovah's Witnesses or those "charity" workers who won't stop ringing my doorbell every single day...

So, you didn't like the intro?!
😲

When are we finally going to see Pamela Lee and that MTV host parodying themselves? Seriously.

I thought it was great.
Especially when Jeannie is tackling a crossword puzzle and starts tapping her foot like that... man, you can just see the gears grinding. It’s wild how she thinks.
🙂

Even their conversation is absolutely hilarious. It’s pure comedy gold.
😁 😁

wiredpilot30 said:Personally, I dig it because there are plenty of deaths. 😍

Did you see that part where they shot the guy with the arrow? 😲

And did you catch that sword fight? 😲

😁

It's a solid movie, but honestly, I'm getting pretty sick of hearing about everyone else's history. I'd much rather watch a movie about King George Washington. 🙂

Yeah... those violence scenes are something else...
There are some brutal moments (like that decapitation from the propeller) but... all those violent scenes are actually really well done, with style. You don't just see everything up close and gross; the director clearly made sure it wasn't nauseating for the audience.

Hmm...
It wouldn't be a bad idea to make a decent domestic historical epic... but personally, I'm liking this Ivana Orleanska thing because of the actual story and the supernatural elements. The scenes dealing with that theme are executed very well.

Too bad we don't have cool stuff like that in our own history.
😢 😳

Dust said:I'm actually a fan, mostly because Milla Jovovich is in it.

Yeah,
plus she’s great in this one.
👍

He was on FOX for New Year's Day..
Just caught it.

Really liked the movie.
😳

I’ve heard plenty about her, but I had zero clue about her actual story. Honestly, maybe that’s for the best—didn't have any preconceived notions about where the plot was heading..
The film is incredibly informative and beautifully crafted.

Even though it’s long, you don't even notice the runtime.

👍 👍

~ ~ ~
- I am nobody, just a poor girl. I know nothing of warfare or riding. So I decided to wait, and tell no one.
- You did the right thing.
The film IVANA ORLEANSKA

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The Messenger: The Story of Joan of Arc (1999)

graniteotter4 said:Trust me, there are plenty of much better parodies than this one...

And plenty of worse ones too.
😉

Honestly, the directors completely botched the second installment. They cut out key scenes—scenes that were actually hilarious—and without them, the whole movie is just a mess. I guess that’s why they let someone else take the reins for the third one.

graniteotter4 said:This movie is absolute trash !!!!! I don't get how anyone could even greenlight such a disaster.🙂

Ugh, looks like Aslan agrees...

I don't see why.
😕

The movie is a parody; you aren't supposed to take it seriously.
It isn't even your run-of-the-mill comedy—most of the scenes are built on paradoxes, which is exactly why they're funny.

Maybe the issue is that it mocks other movies, and if you haven't seen them, you just can't grasp the humor.

For instance,
that scene where they beat up Q. Latif with that woman in the circle is hilarious.
😂

And if you haven't seen the circle movie, you won't get the joke.
In the original, that group is portrayed as ultimate evil, but this parody completely tears down all that seriousness.👍

mistybear52 said:The first one holds up.
The second isn't much to write home about.
BUT THIS ONE? A TOTAL SMASH HIT.
I haven't laughed this hard in years. Spent two straight hours in the theater with a permanent grin plastered on my face. It’s a masterpiece. So many brilliant, original jokes that I was literally clutching my stomach from laughing so hard... ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT.

It's great.
👍

The first is awesome,
the second is alright, decent enough to watch,

but the third? Pure insanity.
Probably because they swapped directors and brought in a real pro.

dustyscout53 said:If you're what passes for culture, then I guess I really am a sadist. You're just living in your own little world of homosexuality...

Listen here, you Raos wannabe.

I am not the subject of this discussion,
so if you want to go back and forth with your petty bickering and fighting, go find that thread you started yourself—the one about gay arguments.

Later, 😘
👋

You’ve already slapped me with false accusations about starting wars a few times now, and here you go again. My orientation isn't the topic at hand.
🙂

And the real irony? You actually agreed with me on those movies—on my comment that hit you so hard.
🙄 😵

dustyscout53 said:Gay man, even if homosexuality were a disorder, that would be completely lost among the massive pile of other issues you're dealing with. Your sexual orientation is just the tip of the iceberg. You're both gay and a slur. I bet you have pink curtains. You absolute jerk!

And yet, you're still arguing—
that is hardly how a moderator should behave.

dustyscout53, you are a fake mod, that’s all I’m saying. It's obvious you're terrified of culture; you probably fear civilization itself because you've turned into a total sadist. You aren't a real mod, an original, a true veteran, you're just a pretender. That's where all your frustration comes from.

ps.
my curtains are navy blue.
😳
though pink might not be a bad idea.
😍 🙂