Posts by Kenneth Cruz67

I would really appreciate it if the administration could take a look at my last two warnings, just because of the timing and how they were handed out; I’m wondering if this is actually legitimate rule-breaking or if maybe a moderator is just venting some personal frustration on me.

This whole situation has honestly become a bit ridiculous.

ruggedhawk20 said:My bad—totally missed that.

But honestly, you've built quite the reputation for talking nonsense, so I don't even bother reading your posts anymore.

Whatever.

I've actually exchanged a few messages with TBF on this subject, and while I can certainly understand why you might skip over my stuff, I find it a little hard to believe you'd skip over TBF's posts too. I mean, at least his contributions aren't complete nonsense, if you know what I mean.😁

ruggedhawk20 said:BTW

In all this chaos, nobody’s even noticed that Lewis hasn't posted a single thing on socials for days now.

I mean, if we want Lewis to actually head toward that GOAT status... he just needs that sudden, unexpected passing to finally overtake his idol Senna and become immortal.

Wait, wasn't I actually hinting at that very thing just yesterday? 🤔

I suppose you aren't really paying close enough attention.

Gary Palmer8 said:Sure, he hasn't snagged a point yet, but he did sweep the GP3 Series and FIA F2 over the last four years. Plus, he absolutely crushes his teammate on the track.

Sounds like you just woke up from a long nap yesterday, doesn't it?

And let's not forget he's been testing for Mercedes since 2017. It was actually his very first time ever getting behind the wheel of a real race car. Honestly, it's almost like a Cinderella story unfolding in small steps.

stormybadger8 said:Since we’re already talking about legality...

As a team, Mercedes has been dancing right on the edge—and sometimes stepping over it—since day one.
Now, look, they haven't officially been disqualified, nor has their race car been ruled illegal during a current season. But they've definitely had parts declared illegal for the following season more than a few times.

But because they haven't actually been disqualified or hit with an illegality ruling mid-season, you can't just blindly label their car "illegal."
Still, they’ve certainly racked up more "technical irregularities" than, say, Ferrari did back during the 2000-2004 era.

Here’s why:
That Brawn GP blown diffuser? Later ruled illegal.
The FRIC system? Later ruled illegal.
The double diffuser? Later ruled illegal.
Using the current race car for testing—plus all that other stuff—was technically illegal too, yet Mercedes and the drivers walked away without any penalties.
Then there's DAS—ruled illegal for the next season.

And that’s just the stuff out in the open that the FIA caught. Who knows what else is happening behind the scenes? Given how organized and sneaky these Formula 1 teams are, it's highly likely there's more.
So, honestly, it's pretty ridiculous to call Schumacher's cars "illegal" while treating Mercedes and Lewis Hamilton like they're holier than the Pope. 🙄

I honestly feel like all those technical systems were perfectly legal when they were originally developed in full compliance with the regulations, and since the FIA eventually decided to ban them later on, wouldn't that effectively strip Mercedes of their top spot? I suppose it’s a bit of a stretch to try and compare those kinds of clever engineering feats to something as blatant as outright lying, cheating, or stealing, don't you think? 🤦

Gary Palmer8 said:"But just a little bit"

It’s kind of like how people say about football here in the States—that our national team and their national team are basically playing on the same level, maybe even within a five-point spread, 😁

ruggedhawk20 said:"Exciting" isn't exactly how you rank drivers.

Felipe Massa, Kevin Magnussen, that guy from Venezuela, etc.—they're all "exciting" drivers too.

Well, if you ask me, it totally is! Since my own perspective and my specific criteria are the only ones that truly matter to me—while the rest of you are essentially just a collection of tiny black pixels against the white background of my monitor—I suppose I'll just have to stick by my own opinion.

1. Helmut Marko
2. Lewis Hamilton
3. Max Verstappen

Those are, in my humble estimation, the three best drivers on, in, and around the grid.😁

Alex Barnes93 said:I mean, nobody actually said it was his entire earnings, but tracking sponsorships is a nightmare. If we're going by that logic, Kimi Räikkönen is easily the greatest driver ever because no sponsor pays more than what he pulls in. Even now, estimates for him were around 100 million bucks a year (well, back in 2018 and 2019, anyway).

You see Kimi everywhere on TV, in commercials, even popping up on major networks—he's out there promoting Alfa Romeo, some perfume, sunglasses, three different brands, you name it. He even shows up in ads during NBA games! I swear, I have never seen Lewis Hamilton on TV once.

The biggest market in the world is America, and if you ask a random American who Kimi is, most people would actually know him. For Lewis? Most Americans wouldn't have a clue unless they're die-hard Formula 1 fans. Though, honestly, most Americans are convinced the Daytona 500 is the oldest and most legendary race on the planet, but that's a whole other conversation...

He told you that overall, Lewis is the better driver, but that back in 2011, he wasn't better than Jenson Button. Because he straight up wasn't.

Personally, I felt they were both pretty much neck and neck that year, though I suppose Lewis was certainly more exciting to watch, even if he had a bit less luck and dealt with more than his fair share of setbacks involving Felipe Massa, whereas Button was... well, Button, being himself as always, so I guess there's still a tiny edge to Lewis for me.😁

graniteharbor502 said:When one considers the entirety of their career as a whole, doesn't it become clear that in 2011, Jenson Button was actually the superior driver?

I truly respect your perspective on this, but I have to say I don't quite see eye to eye with you there. If we're talking about someone who had an absolutely dominant car that basically made the competition look slow, then that would probably be Button; if he hadn't secured that title, I imagine people might just remember him for being a bit inconsistent or maybe even just chasing the paycheck.

I can't help but wonder, how many more championships does Lewis Hamilton still need to claim, and exactly who would he have to beat while driving that same identical car, before you'd finally be willing to accept him as the GOAT?

I'm genuinely curious 😬

Alex Barnes93 said:If we’re going by this kind of logic, Michael Jordan is basically a massive flop in the basketball world because his entire career earnings don't even touch what some players pull in during a single six-year contract lately. It's wild.



https://www.basketball-reference.com...jordami01.html

By that same ridiculous standard, Al Horford is somehow 2.02 times "better" than MJ just because his paycheck is so much bigger: https://www.basketball-reference.com...horfoal01.html

Well, that isn't actually his total career earnings. If you take the time to add up all those massive sponsorship deals—and honestly, if you just look at his deal with Nike alone—😁

The estimates for him are somewhere around two billion dollars and change, I believe. 😁

Kobe Bryant pulled in about 700 million, while LeBron James is sitting at around 500 million, so they aren't even remotely close to the GOAT.

graniteharbor502 said:If you find yourself in a position where your front tire makes contact with a rival's rear tire while navigating the track, haven't you essentially committed a fundamental error that effectively dismantles the race for both yourself and your competitor? Is it not true that such an incident serves to ruin the competitive integrity of the moment for everyone involved?

Lewis Hamilton. It’s a nuanced point, isn't it? One might argue that Jenson Button never once hesitated to acknowledge who the greatest driver of his era truly was, which highlights the core of the issue surrounding Lewis Hamilton. Is it perhaps because he hasn't always been paired with the absolute pinnacle of driving talent within the same car—with the possible exception of 2007, I suppose—yet somehow still finds himself losing races to drivers who simply don't belong in that conversation? If we look at Michael Schumacher, for instance, that particular struggle didn't really manifest until his first retirement; by the time he made his comeback, age had already begun to take its toll. Still, even if we consider all that, can we honestly say that Schumacher was the GOAT?

Well, there you have it! I honestly feel like there isn't even any real need to keep this discussion going further at all. 👍

Here is yet another table that, if you think about it, might actually be the only thing that truly matters in this whole discussion, and once again, we see Lewis Hamilton sitting right at the very top!

1 Lewis Hamilton - $489 Million.
2 Michael Schumacher - $464 Million. ...
3 Fernando Alonso - $458 Million. ...
4 Sebastian Vettel - $358 Million. ...
5 Kimi Räikkönen - $331 Million. ...
6 Jenson Button - $147 Million. ...
7 Ralf Schumacher - $121 Million. ...
8 Jacques Villeneuve - $115 Million. ...

graniteharbor502 said:Why is it honestly such a monumental struggle for some people to interpret a simple table consisting of seven or eight rows?🤔[/I]

Now we are expected to believe that Massa is somehow to blame because Lewis Hamilton made his own driving errors.🙏 🙏 🙏
Why couldn't he just drive like Jenson Button, with far fewer mistakes, back when he was actually performing at a higher level?🤣

I don't think Lewis Hamilton actually made a mistake there; it honestly feels more like Felipe Massa was just on a mission of his own! 😁

I guess I have to wonder, are we actually attempting to provide some sort of objective value judgment here, or are we all just cheering for our favorites?

I guess if we aren't going to beat around the bush, I’d love to hear what you think, because I honestly find myself wondering who you would personally pick as the superior driver and the more successful competitor in the world of Formula 1?

I find myself constantly weighing this one in my mind, though I suppose there isn't really a single right answer, is there? If you're asking me whether I'd rather see Jenson Button or Lewis Hamilton take the glory, it’s such a tough call! On one hand, you have the sheer, effortless brilliance of Lewis Hamilton, which is just staggering to watch, but then you have Jenson Button's incredible finesse and that smooth style that always seemed to make racing look so easy. It’s a bit of a toss-up for me, I guess, depending on what kind of driving you personally find more captivating!

Alex Barnes93 said:Plus, if you look at the podiums, Jenson hit them twice as often as Hamilton did that year (12 for Jenson vs. just 6 for Lewis).

Well, I suppose that might be true, but

If you look closer, Lewis really outclassed Button in qualifying, especially since Lewis managed to grab pole positions throughout the year while Button didn't, and even when Button wasn't grabbing podiums, Lewis was usually still finishing quite respectably, so there is a bit more to the story than just those numbers.

In fact, I believe the only drivers who really managed to push Lewis aside that year were Felipe Massa in Singapore, Monaco, Silverstone, India, and Japan.

Does anyone else happen to remember that stretch? :zubo

I honestly can't imagine why it would be so incredibly difficult to wrap one's head around a simple table with maybe seven or eight columns.🤔

graniteharbor502 said:What relevance does a link comparing two drivers based on arbitrary criteria hold when the primary metric should undoubtedly be the total number of points earned? When placed in the exact same car during the same season, Jenson Button actually holds 43 more points. Nuff said.

If we are talking strictly about results, then yes, that is true. However, is it not also true that he was fortunate enough to pilot the most dominant machine in history for seven consecutive seasons? Even during those seven years, he still managed to lose a championship to a driver who had never been a world champion before. That certainly gives one pause when considering the claim that he is the greatest of all time...

If we're deciding the greatest based solely on championship titles, then Lewis Hamilton is undoubtedly the GOAT.

However, if you look at it through the lens of having lost the fewest championships, Lewis Hamilton still takes the crown, since he won 7 out of 14 seasons—which is a 50% success rate—while Michael Schumacher comes in second, winning 7 out of 17 seasons, which is arguably a bit lower than Hamilton's 50%.

The table I shared is actually a pretty detailed numerical breakdown of their head-to-head matchups, which I think tries to account for things like luck or mechanical failures, aiming to answer who the better driver truly is rather than just who has been more successful in Formula 1.

graniteharbor502 said:https://www.formula1.com/en/results....1/drivers.html

1 Sebastian Vettel GER Red Bull Racing Renault 392
2 Jenson Button GBR GBR McLaren Mercedes 270 3 270
3 Mark Webber AUS Red Bull Racing Renault 258
4 Fernando Alonso ESP Ferrari 257
5 Lewis Hamilton GBR GBR McLaren Mercedes 227 227

By what strange distortion of space and time could one possibly claim that a forty-three point advantage held by Button constitutes a lesser achievement? 🙄

Well, maybe it's just because I'm trying to look at the bigger picture here instead of obsessing solely over the points tally.

Everything you need to know is right there in the link, which shouldn't be too hard to wrap your head around; just take a look, and if it still feels a bit fuzzy, I'd be more than happy to walk you through it.

Honestly, I'm not quite sure why you're acting like this is some unsolvable mystery.

It’s almost like asking me—by what logic or what kind of warping of reality and common sense could anyone possibly argue that Lewis Hamilton isn't the greatest of all time, especially when he holds the record for most titles, most wins, most poles, and really just most everything else? 🤔

Bottas running on those old tires😵

There’s that old saying, I guess—when the cat's away, the mice will play.😁

graniteharbor502 said:How on earth could you claim that Button was inferior in 2011? What kind of nonsense is that?

Well, if I may, I’d really love it if you could try to maintain at least some semblance of consistent criteria here. It feels a bit all over the place when someone is suddenly considered better just because they racked up more points in a single season, then suddenly the standard shifts to who left a better impression on you personally, and then somehow changes again based on how tough their teammate was.

If we're going by that logic—that Button is better simply because he scored more points—then I suppose Lewis Hamilton would have to be the greatest of all time since he holds the record for most points across the most championships.

It's just hard to follow when the goalposts keep moving like this. 😉

graniteharbor502 said:How on earth could you claim that Button was inferior in 2011? What kind of nonsense is that?

Honestly, I find it a little bit baffling that it’s actually this difficult for some people to just click a link and see what's going on. I mean, really, the link is right there along with a description of the content, and we're all following the forum rules perfectly fine, so I suppose I shouldn't necessarily have to provide a detailed diagram explaining every single thing just because someone might be feeling a bit too lazy to spend thirty seconds glancing at it themselves, don't you think?

bluepuma9 said:Rosberg, Button, Alonso. Where'd I miss the mark?

http://www.f1-facts.com/stats/teammates/L.Hamilton

Well, here are the stats on his teammates, broken down and totaled up for you.

I suppose Alonso was marginally better during that first and only year they shared a garage.

As for Rosberg, he managed to be the stronger driver in 2016, but I guess he was trailing behind in all the other years.

And then there's Button, who seemed to be the slower one throughout their time together.

So, looking at the big picture, he wasn't necessarily better than Alonso—though it was a tiny margin—and since they only overlapped for that very first year of Hamilton's career, it's a bit lopsided, but technically speaking, I think you might have been a little off there.