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Participants stormybadger8ruggedfox28darkmarlin16Joshua Newman2Terry Carter2Matthew Young35Jessica Ramos12Rebecca Fox4cosmicridge5William Bennett53Keith Rodriguez27Christian Williams61Edward Howard2
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#81 ·
stormybadger8 said:That’s all the smart stuff you’ve got to say 🤦

Besides, this is Formula 1 ☕
The super league is supposed to feel like F1—just like that one kid keeps blaring about—so what exactly is your table mimicking? 🤷 Is it the NBA league or just some random kid's idea?

😕
But honestly, what am I even supposed to say when you basically reject every single suggestion put on the table?🤷

Besides, this is Formula 1.☕
The super league is supposed to feel like F1, or at least that's what some kid keeps blathering about.

Who actually said that?🤷 (And how exactly is the super league anything like F1?)
Stop lying.🙂

So, what’s your table actually modeled after? Like, is it following the NBA league style or just some kid's idea?🤷

I have zero comments on this.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#82 ·
Nobody’s buying what you’re selling☕
A. I’m only complaining because you went ahead and made up this fantasy where I actually agree with your proposal.☕
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#83 ·
So, I'm asking you, what was his logic for pairing them up like this? 😉

You totally dodged my question 😠

Look, there's actually a Berger table for all that ☕
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#84 ·
darkmarlin16 said:So, I'm asking you, what was his logic for pairing them up like this? 😉

You totally dodged my question 😠

Look, there's actually a Berger table for all that ☕

Look, I didn't pick them. Those were the pairings for 2010 and 2011 based on Max's schedule.
I just set up round 20 so everyone ends up with 3 offers and 3 answers.

Though, I'm pretty sure we'll end up with 19 races again, just like back in 2010 and 2011.
Edward Howard2 Edward Howard2 Regular
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#85 ·
login

It honestly wouldn't feel right if we let another rep from the second tournament slide into the super league, especially when even the defending champ didn't get a shot at it 😁

Terry Carter2 👋

darkmarlin16 said:So, I'm asking you, what was his logic for pairing them up like this? 😉

You totally dodged my question 😠

Look, there's actually a Berger table for all that ☕

Honestly, MAXYMA's chart is way better than Berger's ☕
Terry Carter2 Terry Carter2 Active Member
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#86 ·
Edward Howard2 said:login

It honestly wouldn't feel right if we let another rep from the second tournament slide into the super league, especially when even the defending champ didn't get a shot at it 😁

Terry Carter2 👋

Honestly, MAXYMA's chart is way better than Berger's ☕

What can I do?
No matter how hard I grind, getting into the elite tier feels completely out of reach!
😁

Sent from my iPad 2
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#87 ·
Today is the final deadline for sign-ups 😳

Just a heads-up on who hasn't signed up yet:
8. Sheldon
1. reserve - Joshua Newman2


If they don't show up, the 2nd reserve moves into 8th place:
2. reserve - Jessica Ramos12

Joshua Newman2 already knows the drill anyway. I tried reaching out to Sheldon via PM a few times, but unfortunately, he hasn't been active on the boards since October 2011.🤷
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#88 ·
1. The Reddit F1 super league is an invite-only showdown featuring the top eight heavy hitters from last season's various forum competitions. If anyone decides to flake out, the next person on the leaderboard from last year steps up to fill the slot. For those wondering who actually secured a spot for next season, check the rule under point 15. The race director is handling all official results and standings here in this thread. The moderator will be copying everything over to the first page to keep things organized, while everyone else stays busy posting their updates and playing the F1 super league.

2. Here’s how the league works: competitors face off in head-to-head duels from start to finish. It’s a triple round-robin setup based on a random draw and a pre-set schedule. During the first two rounds of the super league, everyone makes an offer to everyone else. In the third round, things change—offers are based on merit, meaning your standing at the end of the second round dictates your matchups. Basically, if you actually perform well, you get an easier path through the final stretch.

3. Here’s how the competition works:
The person setting the offer has until midnight on Tuesday of the race week. They submit five sets of picks with no limits, but here’s the catch: they don't actually pick the drivers themselves. Instead, their opponent does that by bolding five favorites they think will finish higher, then marking them with a 1 or 2 next to the pair. This has to be done at least ten minutes before qualifying starts on Saturday. Any drivers not explicitly marked automatically become the offer setter's favorites.

4. Once the race wraps up, drivers pick up these extra points:
Winning a duel where nobody retires gets you 3 points.
Winning a duel where the loser DNF's? That’s a solid 2 points.
Winning a duel when the loser didn't even start the race? That's worth 1 point.
An unresolved duel where both drivers DNF or fail to start—they both walk away with 1 point.

5. Once we tally up all those extra points from the pairings, the main points get handed out like this:
Beating an opponent's offer - 3 points
Winning on your own bid—that’s 2 points in the bag.
Unresolved duel – they both walk away with 1 point.

6. Here’s how we determine the overall league standings:
Look, it's simple: the guy with more main points is the better competitor. Period.
If there's a tie after we apply rule a), the tiebreaker goes to whoever holds the higher margin of secondary points. Simple as that.
If there's a tie after step B, the tiebreaker goes to whoever scored more head-to-head points during their two or three matchups.
If there’s a tie after step C, the tiebreaker goes to whoever has the better head-to-head record from those two or three matchups. Simple as that.
If there's a tie after step D, the tiebreaker goes to whoever racked up more total wins. Simple as that.
If we end up in a tie after step E, the tiebreaker goes to whoever snagged more individual pair wins. Simple as that.
If there's a tie after step f), the winner is whoever managed to snag more secondary points. Simple as that.

7. You can drop your bid as soon as the last race wraps up. The official deadline is Tuesday at midnight during the week of the next race, but let’s be real—there aren't any actual penalties for missing it. If you send your bid at 12:01 AM on Wednesday, we’ll still count it. However, if you miss the window, your previous bid from the league stays active, and your opponent gets to respond to that one instead. If they don't reply to the old bid before a new one hits the table, they have to deal with the new one. If you fail to send a bid within the first two rounds before an old one even exists, or if you're so late that your opponent doesn't have time to counter, your opponent automatically gets the max payout: 3 main points and 15 secondary points. Also, if you miss the deadline and your opponent is logged in or posting on Reddit F1 super league before qualifying but ignores your late bid, you get the full points—as long as your bid was posted at least an hour before their response window closed.

8. If a competitor fails to submit a new offer or a response for three races in a row, they’re out. Automatic disqualification from the super league, provided there's a backup racer ready to step up. If we do activate a reserve, they take over the disqualified person's remaining schedule, but don't get to touch their points. Sorry, that's just how it works.

9. If a competitor misses the deadline or just ignores the first offer entirely, their opponent walks away with the full haul: 2 main points and 15 secondary points. Simple as that.
If a racer fails to submit an answer during the third round, or if they turn in some nonsense response, and we catch them intentionally trying to boost someone else's score, there's going to be trouble. Both the offender and the person getting the unearned advantage will face penalties. The league directors and the F1 subforum moderators will hammer out the punishment together via a majority vote.

10. Ponude i odgovori koji su jednom poslani, ne smiju se više brisati, korigirati, editirati ili slati nove, a kršenje istog sankcionira se davanjem maksimalnog broja bodova protivniku. Ukoliko natjecatelj navede nepotpunu ponudu sa manje od pet parova, ima je pravo nadopuniti do protivnikovog odgovora, a ukoliko to ne učini, za preostale parove koji nedostaju, protivnik dobiva maksimalni mogući iznos sporednih bodova, a ukoliko pošalje ponudu sa više od pet parova, u obzira se uzima samo prvih pet napisanih parova, bez mogućnosti naknadne korekcije.

11. If everyone agrees, competitors can swap home venues for any reason during the first round. If they go that route, those swaps automatically carry over to the second round based on the original schedule, ensuring everyone gets one shot at making an offer. Once we hit the second and third rounds, the venue swaps are off the table. Also, just to be clear, you can't touch the pairing schedule once it's been drawn before the competition starts.

12. Look, here's the deal: you can only post your predictions using the exact username you used to sign up for the competition. The only exception is if an admin steps in and changes it on their end. If you've been banned, you aren't totally out of the running—you can still play, but you have to submit your entry or response through a formal report on your banned account, which the moderator will then manually move over to the main thread. If you don't follow that process, you’re disqualified. Simple as that.

13. Race standings are calculated based on whatever results the FIA drops immediately after the checkered flag—either during the TV broadcast or those first unofficial, uncorrected results posted on their official website. Once those numbers are out, they're final. Any later corrections made by the FIA? Doesn't matter. We don't take them into account. When it comes to determining which drivers dropped out, we stick to those initial FIA results that specify exactly who failed to finish. Otherwise, per standard FIA rules, a driver is considered to have retired if they complete less than 90% of the race distance. As for the race itself, the total number of laps is whatever the FIA decides it should be, whether through their regular protocol or some sudden emergency decision.

14. Once you submit your picks, that's it. If the FIA makes a ruling—whether it helps you or screws you over—you aren't allowed to change your bet just because the outcome shifted. Same goes if the FIA drops a decision that hurts your opponent after you've already locked in your top five favorites; no mid-game changes allowed. Also, if you already know what the FIA or a specific team is going to decide before you even place your bets, you better factor that in. This specifically applies to drivers who have already been officially ruled out of a race. You can't bet on someone who isn't even racing. If you try to sneak them in, you'll face sanctions, which basically means handing your opponent the win and a maximum point haul.

15. Here’s how we’re filling out the F1 super league next year:
15. Next year's F1 super league seeding order:
1. F1 super league champion
2. F1 championship winner
3. Winner of F1 tournament 1
4. Winner of F1 tournament 2
5. Accuracy trophy winner - overall
6. F1 championship runner-up
7. F1 super league runner-up
8. F1 betting winner
9. Finalist of F1 tournament 1
10. Finalist of F1 tournament 2
11. Third place in F1 championship
12. Accuracy trophy winner - championship
13. Third place in F1 super league
14. Third place in F1 tournament 1
15. Third place in F1 tournament 2
16. Accuracy trophy winner - tournament
17. F1 championship team champion (better side)
18. Fourth place in F1 championship
19. Fourth place in F1 tournament 1
20. Fourth place in F1 tournament 2
21. Second place in accuracy trophy - overall
22. F1 championship team champion (worse side)
23. Fifth place in F1 championship
24. Fifth place in F1 tournament 1
25. Fifth place in F1 tournament 2

The "better" teammate is whoever scored more points.
Whoever finishes dead last in the F1 super league loses 5 spots in next year's seeding across all competitions they placed in this season. The guy finishing second to last loses 3 spots in their best placement among other competitions.

16. This rulebook kicks in once posted in the Super League rules and results thread. We might tweak things later if we realize the current setup is a mess and needs fixing to keep the league running smoothly.
If some weird situation pops up that isn't covered by these rules, a special committee made up of all the admins and moderators of this sub-forum will make the call.
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#89 ·
Here’s the rule proposal and the poll. Get voting. 🙂

- Old Rulebook (2011) - part 1, part 2
- Manager's proposed rules for 2012

I need everyone playing in the super league this season—or anyone on the reserve list—to cast their vote.
If you have an idea for a rule change, go ahead and vote, but be specific about what actually needs fixing.
If you’re backing someone else's suggestion, vote along with them and just mention in the thread that you agree with their changes.

If you aren't playing this year but still have an idea, feel free to post it or vote, but let's be real: the deciding votes belong to the guys actually playing in the super league this season, since the rules are mainly for them.
I’ve highlighted all the changes from the old rules in blue.

The poll closes in 6 days. We need these rules locked in before the first offer goes out.
Joshua Newman2 Joshua Newman2 Active Member
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#90 ·
stormybadger8 said:Here’s the rule proposal and the poll. Get voting. 🙂

- Old Rulebook (2011) - part 1, part 2
- Manager's proposed rules for 2012

I need everyone playing in the super league this season—or anyone on the reserve list—to cast their vote.
If you have an idea for a rule change, go ahead and vote, but be specific about what actually needs fixing.
If you’re backing someone else's suggestion, vote along with them and just mention in the thread that you agree with their changes.

If you aren't playing this year but still have an idea, feel free to post it or vote, but let's be real: the deciding votes belong to the guys actually playing in the super league this season, since the rules are mainly for them.
I’ve highlighted all the changes from the old rules in blue.

The poll closes in 6 days. We need these rules locked in before the first offer goes out.

Since I’ve been called upon, I’ll step up and weigh in.
Generally speaking, I’m on board with the new regulations, with one glaring exception regarding point 9. Specifically, this part: "but for the competitor who gained a points advantage through such an action, the penalty will be determined by the tournament directors and the F1 subforum moderators via a majority vote."

That clause is problematic. It creates a loophole where someone with absolutely nothing to lose could intentionally sabotage a leader at the top of the standings.

Furthermore, I believe we should scrap the team championships entirely, though moving them down the priority list is at least a step in the right direction.🙏
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#91 ·
Joshua Newman2 said:Since I’ve been called upon, I’ll step up and weigh in.
Generally speaking, I’m on board with the new regulations, with one glaring exception regarding point 9. Specifically, this part: "but for the competitor who gained a points advantage through such an action, the penalty will be determined by the tournament directors and the F1 subforum moderators via a majority vote."

That clause is problematic. It creates a loophole where someone with absolutely nothing to lose could intentionally sabotage a leader at the top of the standings.

Furthermore, I believe we should scrap the team championships entirely, though moving them down the priority list is at least a step in the right direction.🙏

Look, I get it—that part of the rulebook isn't exactly pretty. But MAXYMA wrote it for a reason. I purposefully added that it requires multiple people to decide, meaning all the directors and mods have to weigh in. That way, they can actually figure out if someone was being a jerk on purpose or if it was just an accident.

Still, tossing the whole thing out would be stupid. The possibility of someone cheating exists, and we've dealt with stuff like this before.

Sure, it's incredibly hard to prove who's actually at fault, or even if anyone is guilty at all. 🤷
But it's also pretty idiotic to have zero plan in place for when things go sideways.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#92 ·
So, the great eight are basically legendary ☕
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#93 ·
Alright, here’s the matchup schedule🙂

First round of offers from:
ruggedfox28
Jessica Ramos12
stormybadger8
Christian Williams61


I'm sure everyone already knows this, but just in case:
The deadline for offers is Tuesday at midnight, March 13, 2012, 24:00h😉

As for the rules—what they say and how they work—you probably all know the drill since you've played in the super league before.
Christian Williams61 is our only newcomer, so if anything is unclear, Christian Williams61, just ask and we'll get you sorted.😁
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#94 ·
Seriously, how was it even possible to mess this up so badly? I mean, for crying out loud, every single letter looks like a blurry mess 😠
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#95 ·
Good grief, you're being such a pain with these charts😵
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#96 ·
Nico Rosberg vs. Michael Schumacher.
Kovalainen - Petrov
Daniel Ricciardo - Jean-Éric Vergne
Jenson Button - Lewis Hamilton
Narain Karthikeyan - Pedro de la rosa
ruggedfox28 ruggedfox28 Regular
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#97 ·
Narain Karthikeyan - Pedro de la Rosa
Kovalainen - Vitaly Petrov
Kobayashi Petrov...
Daniel Ricciardo - Jean-Eric Vergne Paul di Resta
Paul di Resta - Nico Hulkenberg
stormybadger8 stormybadger8 VeteranOP
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#98 ·
Jessica Ramos12 and Christian Williams61, today is your deadline to get those bids in. Given how this forum has been acting lately, you should probably just get them up now. If you don't have them posted by midnight and darkmarlin16 or Edward Howard2 don't show up before qualifying, you're losing the duel 0-15.😳
I started a poll because we’ve only got three votes for the new rules. That’s not even 50% participation. If we don't get enough votes, we're stuck with the old rules, even if nobody actually likes them according to the poll.🙂

Vote for the rules you actually want. Here are the links to the old and new ones. 😳
It would be nice if we could actually settle on the rules for at least one season before the season starts. 🙂


Here’s who hasn't voted yet:
3. Edward Howard2
4. darkmarlin16
5. Patagonija
6. ruggedfox28
7. Keith Rodriguez27
Keith Rodriguez27 Keith Rodriguez27 Active Member
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#99 ·
Honestly, I haven't a clue. I didn't even bother weighing in on those new rules because the changes aren't even that massive, so I just stayed quiet. Plus, since most of it boils down to how much moderators get to meddle in keeping things consistent, I feel like the real voices we need to hear are the racers who *aren't* mods—you know, seeing if they actually want the admins breathing down their necks during the race. But whatever, the majority is backing the new rules, so I guess I am too.
darkmarlin16 darkmarlin16 Veteran
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#100 ·
Man, I’d totally cast my vote if I could, but I can't get into the app on my phone right now 😢

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