Nathan Collins2 said:Here we go again...
You mentioned "normal food," which basically puts veggies and everything else in this diet on the opposite side of the fence from what you consider standard—which is just nonsense. This soup isn't flooding your system with massive amounts of indigestible fiber instead of "normal food," as you put it. To me, "normal food" means fruits and veggies, maybe one meat meal a week, and at least two fish dinners. My body handles that perfectly. When I eat too much meat, I feel like garbage. And look, even though I can Google stuff and find the same data points you’re throwing out😉, to me, all of that is total bull😁 because I listen to my body and eat exactly what my body craves😉, not whatever some expert recommends with their food pyramids😉. For example, I haven't been able to handle milk since I was a baby—it makes me vomit—but I absolutely love every other dairy product.
I'm actually glad I nudged you toward this. Regardless of what you think, this soup definitely introduces a huge amount of cellulose compared to a standard diet. If we're looking at the healthy eating pyramid, it's made up of six main groups:
1. Grains and substitutes (think pasta, starchy veggies, rice)
2. Meat and substitutes (cheese, eggs, fish)
3. Dairy and substitutes (yogurt, buttermilk)
4. Fats (oil, butter, mayo, cream, lard, margarine)
5. Leafy greens (this is a bit broad, as digestible carb content can vary a lot)
6. Fruit
Most people eat such that they hit most of these groups daily, which is qualitatively fine—the issue is just the portions. But if someone switches to this magic soup (by drastically cutting or totally ditching foods from the other groups), it's a different story than a regular diet. It puts the body into a state of relative starvation, which leads to that famous fat-burning phase (aka melting away the belly fat).
Nathan Collins2 said:Well, I did a little Googling myself😁 and found out that leafy greens contain fiber with high levels of galactose—a sugar that prevents lectin proteins from binding to the intestinal wall, which helps prevent colon cancer by a huge margin. Others say they're loaded with lutein, which is amazing for your cardiovascular system. Leafy greens are top-tier on the diet lists suggested for pregnant women... and so on and so forth... I honestly have no clue where you got the idea that leafy greens are full of cellulose that we can't digest and that it's somehow disastrous for digestion?! I am finding the exact opposite regarding how good leafy greens are for your gut...
All I want to know is where you read that I said leafy greens were catastrophically bad for digestion? It's quite the opposite—they're great and healthy (aside from the certain amount of methane gas they produce—so maybe don't ride the subway right after eating them 😁), but that doesn't mean living solely on them is a good idea, even temporarily. Sure, they contain cellulose, but I don't see why that's a dealbreaker... however, we can't use cellulose for energy, so we have to burn our own fat, which means we lose weight.
Nathan Collins2 said:And then there's the whole "light" products thing... honestly, the cynicism is just as unnecessary for me as being a literalist is for you. You know perfectly well I wasn't talking about Diet Coke or whatever other junk—I was talking about foods labeled as "light," you know, low-calorie stuff. Which is exactly what I wrote.
I have no idea which foods you're even talking about, so maybe walk me through it.
Nathan Collins2 said:Anyway, back to the actual point. If you had actually read this thread with the intent to understand it—instead of just hunting for loopholes to nitpick in your replies—you’d see that you can follow a specific week-long diet using this chicken noodle soup recipe alongside certain approved foods. They complement the soup perfectly and don't, for lack of a better term, leave your cells starving or mess up your internal systems. Also, you could've read that some people just add this soup to their regular meals; it makes them feel better, kicks their digestion into gear, and cleans out the system.
Personally, it helps me a ton because I deal with major water retention due to some old hormonal issues from way back. And you gotta flush that out. This soup works wonders for that.
Look, I'm no genius, but I listen to my body and try to give it what it needs, so I started this thread just to share what worked for me. I am always, *always* down for good advice or a smart tip from someone who actually knows their stuff. But the moralizing, the lecturing, the condescending attitude, and just general "know-it-all" energy that has nothing to do with the topic? I take that as an insult. So, if you don't have anything constructive to say about your own experience with this magic soup, then just stop. You've made your point, we got it, and I'd really like to move on.
I still think those personal jabs were totally uncalled for... seriously, did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed today? I wasn't trying to lecture anyone, I was just stating what I know about the subject. I didn't realize you were so determined to find counterarguments just to throw them in my face. As for me, I don't really have an "experience" with this chicken noodle soup recipe because I eat a healthy, balanced diet—which I have to, given a chronic condition I've had since I was a kid—so I don't have extra weight to lose. Even if I did need to slim down and was perfectly healthy, I'd be checking in with a doctor at the Mayo Clinic before attempting a diet this extreme.