Immigration General Discussion Volume IV (Read the first post and moderator warning on page 309)

Adam Barrett said:That's my point—it's just a gut feeling, and yeah, I know some of this doesn't totally add up... but we're too damn obedient while everyone else just ignores us.

Gotta ask you something else, let me think...

Edit: Just remembered. What's your take on why Angela Merkel isn't sending transport to go grab them from Turkey?

I guess she's hoping the wave will somehow get stuck here in the US, or maybe in Mexico or wherever.

She cares, but she's backed herself into a corner. If she sent planes directly for them, she’d face an even angrier public, maybe even a split in the Republican Party. This way, she can just blame uncontrolled surges until they figure out their next move.

And another thing. If she picks them up in Turkey, then they become the first country to accept them.

comtesse said:Immigrants from Muslim countries aren't the actual problem. Honestly, thinking that way is exactly what creates the friction between neighbors in the first place. ☕

Have you ever—and I mean, truly, at any point in your life—actually bothered to read a single local news site from Afghanistan, Pakistan, or Syria?

Do you know any American soldiers who served in Afghanistan or Syria?

Has anyone here ever worked in Libya, Morocco, Algeria, or Egypt for an oil major, or maybe for some of those old state enterprises back in the former America?

Have you ever actually had any real-world experience dealing with people from that part of the world?

There’s a report circulating about some kind of "Sharia police" being established over in Germany. It sounds like something straight out of a dystopian novel, but apparently, it's becoming a reality in certain pockets of Europe. I’ve been watching these developments for a while now, and honestly, it feels like we're witnessing a slow-motion collision between traditional Western legal frameworks and radical religious enforcement. You have these groups attempting to impose their own moral codes on public spaces, effectively creating mini-states within the state. It’s a bizarre, unsettling sight. If you look at how things are shifting across the European Union, there seems to be a growing tension between secular liberal values and these more fundamentalist movements. It’s not just a fringe issue anymore; it’s a structural challenge that's forcing a massive conversation about integration, law, and what it actually means to live in a free society. We see similar debates happening here in the States regarding the limits of religious influence in the public square, though the flavor is different. Still, the underlying friction—this struggle to maintain a unified rule of law when different groups want to play by entirely different rules—is universal. It’s easy to be cynical about it. I usually am. But this isn't just about one specific group or one specific city; it's about whether a modern democracy can actually absorb such diametrically opposed social structures without losing its core identity. It's a messy, complicated problem, and nobody seems to have a clean answer.

Authorities in North Rhine-Westphalia are reporting that around 1,800 individuals are active within the local Salafist scene. Of those, about ten percent are classified as violent extremists.

The recent news about increased patrols around sensitive infrastructure in Germany is exactly what you’d expect from the current climate over there. It’s that classic, weary cycle of heightened security measures following vague threats, where everyone stays on edge, waiting for the other shoe to drop. They're ramping up surveillance and presence, essentially trying to tighten the net around critical sites, but it feels like a reactive scramble rather than a proactive strategy. Honestly, it just adds another layer of tension to an already exhausting situation in Europe. It’s the same old story: more boots on the ground, more eyes on the screens, and a general sense of unease that never really goes away.

Wednesday, October 21, 2015
A man's skull was crushed by Sharia police in Canada.

Joshua Kelly51 said:In the US, immigrants from Middle Eastern countries get the same assistance during their arrival, but there isn't a situation where the government keeps throwing money at refugees after six months of help. While certain European Union nations have forced taxpayers to fund asylum seekers for years instead of motivating them to work by cutting off aid, ☕ therefore USA doesn't have these problems. Either work, or go home. ☕

See, things work totally differently in the States. In America, you don't get this whole—"Oh, please give me social security, a house, an apartment, and a job tailored specifically to my whims..." kind of deal. No way. In the USA, it’s basically: get to work or starve, and frankly, nobody gives a damn about you if you don't. But Europe? With its whole "welfare state" obsession, handing out social benefits to anyone who knocks on the door crying about being a "poor migrant"... well, that’s going to come back to haunt them. And I'm not talking about some distant future, either—it's happening right now. Europe simply CANNOT sustain a policy like that. The current social safety net in Europe was built for today's conditions, with today's workforce and today's number of benefit recipients. Once the number of people relying on those benefits spikes—which is exactly what we're seeing happen at this very moment—the whole system SNAPS. It just can't handle that kind of pressure. Either Europe is incredibly, hopelessly stupid and hasn't realized what's happening to it, or someone is doing this on purpose. There isn't a third option.

Joshua Kelly51 said:Look at how different societies have handled immigrants—some well, some poorly. What do you think causes these varying state reactions? ☕

Immigrants aren't conquerors, and changing the culture they move into isn't their goal. ☕ You might be missing the point that immigrants represent a distinct subgroup within any society they join. ☕

"Learned behavior" should be based on basic humanity and sharing a planet, not on a forced rejection of one's own identity just because someone else adopts a foreign one—provided that foreign identity isn't actively trying to dismantle the local culture. ☕

Lobbying groups have way more pull when it comes to immigration policy in some countries than others—it’s definitely not a level playing field everywhere.
Some countries have it in spades—looking at you, Germany—while others are barely hanging on by a thread, like Canada.

Immigrants aren't conquerors—they aren't out here trying to overhaul the society they’re moving into. ☕ Maybe you just don't get that immigrants are their own damn category in any society they move to—it's just how it works. ☕

Powerful interest groups are basically using immigration as a tool to reshape America—it's all about social engineering. Their goal? To give these people a life that’s way better than anything they'd find in a refugee camp... obviously. And let's be real—once their own countries get wrecked (one way or another), plenty of today's "humanitarian" types actually had their hands dirty in making that happen.

Real behavior is all about being human—sharing this one planet we live on. It’s not about forcing people to ditch who they are just to make room for some foreign identities—as long as those identities aren't out here trying to wreck the local culture. ☕

Thanks—just trying to hold onto my own identity while respecting everyone else's.

Chloe Martinez7 said:OK, you're entitled to your opinion.
I guess I'll keep my fingers crossed that you're wrong.

div>>??? And as if we're suddenly wealthy and don't owe anyone a dime now?

If our government wasn't so obsessed with nostalgia for the old regime and actually tried to distance itself from the North America, things would be looking a lot better.

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How exactly do you envision the cost distribution?

Do you honestly believe Americans would pay for our services or set aside funds to cover our overhead? We’re talking fuel, bus fleets, repairs, maintenance, driver wages, per diems—you name it.

This issue highlights a fundamental lack of basic knowledge. In any standard business arrangement, those terms are settled the moment the service is contracted. Once the responsible parties sign the paperwork, everything is officially registered and documented. Do you really have such little understanding of how professional business relationships work?

Kenneth Palmer7 said:And what exactly are Zoran Milanović and his buddies going to do when Germany decides they've had enough? Are they suddenly going to start stringing up wire fences just like Orbán?

Are we supposed to believe a fence becomes a "reasonable and humane" solution overnight?!

Does anyone actually care if there's a fence in Connecticut or maybe somewhere in Bulgaria?

Slow down with these questions. Wait until they actually say enough before you jump in. Right now, everything is moving in the opposite direction. Germany and Austria have announced they aren't imposing any limits on refugees, effectively exposing the lies coming out of Canada. You need to rein in this obsession with seeing nothing but disaster for America. Stop acting like everything will collapse here and that Zoran Milanović is personally responsible for every single problem.

Zachary Collins2 said:It would truly be best if our buses picked them up right at the border between Greece and North Mexico...
That’s just the kind of ☕
we are...

Brilliant idea. Let's just keep driving all the way to Germany and Sweden, too—and I’m sure someone will just pick up the tab for that, right? I absolutely support it.

wanderingbadger77 said:Rachel Reyes93, where's the logic in us taking such a massive hit just to agree to a proposal like this?
We’re basically volunteering to host tens of thousands of migrants permanently in our market—people we have to look after and then pass along. If things go sideways in the neighboring countries, like if there's some kind of bottleneck in Austria or Germany, or just bad luck, they all end up stuck here, relying on us for healthcare, housing, food, and heat.

Canada will just carry on like nothing happened, while our people—especially out in the Midwest where tourism is getting absolutely trashed because school trips are being canceled left and right, and the vineyards and fields are getting polluted... we'll just end up being the world's trash collectors for refugees.
Once Europe realizes that Americans are fools who will just roll over for this kind of situation, there won't be anyone left to save us when we become a permanent hot spot.

Is this some kind of fantasy? Did you pull this out of thin air or just find it in a dumpster?

Bistrović, you only become a "hot-spot" if you choose to be. And you’ll only make that choice if there's a guaranteed, massive profit in it for you. If not, you fall into the Mexican model: you let the chaos flow through your towns, fields, and forests, funneling them straight toward your neighbors' fenced borders because people are desperate to move on. Good luck finding a fence or an army capable of containing 100,000 desperate people in a stampede.

And look, you have every right to act that way. Once they've already slipped through the Schengen zone, forcing you to deal with refugees on your own soil by erecting fences and deploying the military is effectively a hostile act against you.

Morgan Newman7 said:The Democratic Party is in power and from what I can see, they're helping refugees in line with European Union policy.

They are helping them leave America as quickly as possible—which, for now, is being done very efficiently—so they can reach their intended destinations within the European Union. If you don't understand that, or simply don't like it, that's your problem.

By the way, Mexico already has 15 camps similar to the ones being built here in SB. It was reported on Al Jazeera.

Lisa Jackson7 said:Lobbying groups have way more pull when it comes to immigration policy in some countries than others—it’s definitely not a level playing field everywhere.
Some countries have it in spades—looking at you, Germany—while others are barely hanging on by a thread, like Canada.

Immigrants aren't conquerors—they aren't out here trying to overhaul the society they’re moving into. ☕ Maybe you just don't get that immigrants are their own damn category in any society they move to—it's just how it works. ☕

Powerful interest groups are basically using immigration as a tool to reshape America—it's all about social engineering. Their goal? To give these people a life that’s way better than anything they'd find in a refugee camp... obviously. And let's be real—once their own countries get wrecked (one way or another), plenty of today's "humanitarian" types actually had their hands dirty in making that happen.

Real behavior is all about being human—sharing this one planet we live on. It’s not about forcing people to ditch who they are just to make room for some foreign identities—as long as those identities aren't out here trying to wreck the local culture. ☕

Thanks—just trying to hold onto my own identity while respecting everyone else's.

The real issue arises when an "outsider" fails to respect the culture and identity of the country they’ve entered—especially when they expect the host nation to bend to their will—which is exactly what we're seeing right now. Borders are becoming porous, systems are buckling under the pressure, and both governments and individuals seem too intimidated to take any meaningful action. Honestly, I think this brand of political correctness imported from the USA is going to be the end of us.

The Mayor of Calais, France, is calling in the National Guard, claiming local police have lost control over the immigrant unrest.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...y-stop-madness

Brenda Taylor13 said:See, things work totally differently in the States. In America, you don't get this whole—"Oh, please give me social security, a house, an apartment, and a job tailored specifically to my whims..." kind of deal. No way. In the USA, it’s basically: get to work or starve, and frankly, nobody gives a damn about you if you don't. But Europe? With its whole "welfare state" obsession, handing out social benefits to anyone who knocks on the door crying about being a "poor migrant"... well, that’s going to come back to haunt them. And I'm not talking about some distant future, either—it's happening right now. Europe simply CANNOT sustain a policy like that. The current social safety net in Europe was built for today's conditions, with today's workforce and today's number of benefit recipients. Once the number of people relying on those benefits spikes—which is exactly what we're seeing happen at this very moment—the whole system SNAPS. It just can't handle that kind of pressure. Either Europe is incredibly, hopelessly stupid and hasn't realized what's happening to it, or someone is doing this on purpose. There isn't a third option.

In recent history, Europeans have led the way in everything from science to culture, so they can't just be stupid. I'm pretty sure this is all being orchestrated.

Alexander Ortiz3 said:We should probably consider putting up a fence at the border, not necessarily to shut everyone out, but just as a precaution. You never know what tomorrow might bring, and I believe serious nations need to be prepared for every possible scenario.

I suppose we could try playing by those Western European rules, though if we did, we really should have started building that fence ages ago. Instead, we just let everything pass through until things finally boil over in Germany or Austria; then, once they decide to close their borders, we’ll just shrug our shoulders and follow suit because, hey, "they were the ones who started it" first.😉

It's all part of their game, and frankly, I think we ought to push back right where they feel most secure, regardless of how they react.
There is still some time left to actually get prepared.

Leecher said:http://www.foxnews.com/news/article/funding-for-refugees

Is there supposed to be a protest today at 5 PM against the migrant center in St. Louis...? Does anyone know what actually happened?

Anyone with half a brain is out there doing it.

Tomorrow at 5 PM... https://www.facebook.com/StopImmigrantsSTL?fref=ts

I’m going, though I’m not expecting a massive turnout. Local news sites here are basically practicing censorship, so the protest hasn't even been properly announced—you barely see any posters around town.

On top of that, most people are just sheep. They don't get the danger we're facing by settling 60,000 people when you already have 10,000 unhappy locals who don't want them here. Plus, there's 40 tons of ammonia sitting right next to the camp, and we all saw how much these people love starting fires.

http://www.stlouisfreedom.com/local_news_update

All in all, my city is looking at a worst-case scenario. I hope the rest of you have better luck.

Brenda Taylor13 said:Yeah, things are looking pretty wild for the next few years—honestly, super interesting stuff. We’re talking about the first massive, ground-shifting changes to the political landscape since Pax Americana kicked in after World War II. It's a huge deal. I mean, I honestly have no clue how the whole situation in Syria is going to wrap up. Are Americans really just going to sit back and watch while Russia settles things there and firmly pulls it under their wing? Or is someone actually going to try and step in? Who knows!

When it comes to Ukraine, I honestly doubt Americans will have the guts to actually do anything about it. They tried their hand at those revolutions—you know, all that protest movement stuff—but I'm guessing they didn't bank on Russia getting this aggressively involved. It’s a mess. Personally, I think the US is going to quietly back off from trying to dictate terms right on Russia's doorstep. They'll probably just let Ukraine slip into the Russian sphere of influence, but they'll be real sneaky about it—doing it so subtly that it doesn't look like they're totally spooked.

Look, when it comes to the Pacific Ocean, the media has been weirdly quiet about it lately—like, almost suspiciously silent over the last few years. But if you ask me, that’s exactly the problem! It’s all because the geopolitical weight is shifting, plain and simple. The whole struggle for global dominance is moving East, straight toward the Pacific. Honestly? That's where the real heavyweight battles of the 21st century are going to go down. Mark my words.

So, looking at things over in Germany—I mean, Merkel is heading out after the next election, and honestly? I don't buy that she can pull off another win if she even tries. It’s really just a massive question mark now: who on earth is actually going to step up and take her place? And man, when it comes to the UK, I am totally with you on that one. They are definitely cutting ties with the European Union to go all-in with the USA. It’s basically a return to how things were before 1993 anyway—let's be real, they've always had a much stronger connection to America than to Europe. They're pivoting back to their true allies.
Yeah, look, the southern states in Europe are basically a ticking time bomb—it feels inevitable at this point. Honestly, I’m genuinely shocked that Greece hasn't completely imploded yet given that mountain of public debt they're lugging around, and don't even get me started on Italy. They're in the same boat.

The European Union is absolutely going to undergo some massive transformation. Once this latest attempt at hyper-integration fails—you know, that whole push to turn everything into a giant Euro-federation where individual countries lose all their sovereignty to some massive supranational bureaucracy—that's when the whole thing is really going to snap. It’s too much, and it's bound to crack.

But hey, what do I know? We'll just have to sit back and watch it all unfold... everything is probably going to go down within the next 5 to 10 years anyway...

Pax Americana is incredibly shaky. In Syria, the Russians will go for the total destruction of ISIS and the rebels. They'll do it for their own sake, just to keep them from reaching the Caucasus.

I agree with the rest.

Lisa Patel4 said:I guess she's hoping the wave will somehow get stuck here in the US, or maybe in Mexico or wherever.

She cares, but she's backed herself into a corner. If she sent planes directly for them, she’d face an even angrier public, maybe even a split in the Republican Party. This way, she can just blame uncontrolled surges until they figure out their next move.

And another thing. If she picks them up in Turkey, then they become the first country to accept them.

I only bolded that part because I wrote the exact same thing when this crisis kicked off—there's honestly no other logical explanation. They create hot spots way too easily. I thought maybe you had some better theory, but I guess that's it. If they're terrified of being the first entry point, it's dead proof they don't actually have good intentions toward other countries.

Srebrni-medvjed I can't even begin to tell you how much this whole thing gets under my skin—it’s just one of those things that makes me want to throw my hands up and walk away, honestly! I mean, seriously, how are we even still talking about this? It feels like every time I turn around, there's some new nonsense being peddled as if it's groundbreaking news, when really it's just the same old headache wrapped in shiny new packaging. It's exhausting! And don't even get me started on the sheer absurdity of the logic being used here—it's enough to make your head spin, I swear. Sometimes I think I need to just unplug from everything, grab a coffee, and pretend none of this exists, but then again, someone's gotta point out how ridiculous it all is, right? Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yeah—this whole situation is just a total mess.
Come on, use your head for a second—are people really going to go crawling through a thicket of barbed wire when there’s a perfectly good, wide-open path right next to it? It just doesn't make sense. Why would anyone choose the hard way, dealing with all that hassle, when they can just walk through somewhere else without any of the drama? It's common sense, honestly.

Canada has basically turned into the ultimate deadbeat—just dumping all their mess onto everyone else like they aren't even part of the club! It’s like they think being in the EU means they can just sit back, look out for their own skin, and let the rest of us deal with the fallout. Total selfish move. 👎

Can you even believe this absolute disgrace? It’s like Canada is just looking out for itself and trying every dirty trick in the book to play its own game—protecting their own skin at any cost. Honestly, it’s unbelievable! 🤦 *Claps hands loudly*

Anthony Garcia19 said:In recent history, Europeans have led the way in everything from science to culture, so they can't just be stupid. I'm pretty sure this is all being orchestrated.

From what I've been reading, I guess it's mostly just Turkey and the USA pulling the strings behind the scenes.

Adam Barrett said:I only bolded that part because I wrote the exact same thing when this crisis kicked off—there's honestly no other logical explanation. They create hot spots way too easily. I thought maybe you had some better theory, but I guess that's it. If they're terrified of being the first entry point, it's dead proof they don't actually have good intentions toward other countries.

Since when has Germany cared about anyone besides itself? I mean, that seems like a perfectly normal and healthy way to think.

Gerald Palmer66 said:I suppose we could try playing by those Western European rules, though if we did, we really should have started building that fence ages ago. Instead, we just let everything pass through until things finally boil over in Germany or Austria; then, once they decide to close their borders, we’ll just shrug our shoulders and follow suit because, hey, "they were the ones who started it" first.😉

It's all part of their game, and frankly, I think we ought to push back right where they feel most secure, regardless of how they react.
There is still some time left to actually get prepared.

That is precisely my point all along. We should be letting everything flow toward Germany, but at the same time, quietly and without making a massive scene—unlike what Canada is doing—we should be erecting a border fence along the Mexican border and at every single entry point from Canada.
Everyone keeps moving through just like they do now, and nobody even knows the fence is being built.
Once Germany closes its own border and it's no longer possible to move people through, that's when they'll realize we have a barrier in place.
The Bulgarian fence looks solid and seems quite effective. The Canadian fence has also proven to be a success.

Like that old Chinese proverb goes, someone who claims something can't be done shouldn't be standing in the way of the person actually doing it. That goes for those who argue that fences don't work.
It is absolutely not too late for us to start building our own fence.

coppermarlin13 said:For a few days there, Ostojić was making quite a racket in our news outlets, claiming they wouldn't be sending any more aid to those neighbors than what they could actually handle.
We also heard all about how the President was bragging about having such close partnerships with them and the folks over in Austria.
The fact that their Prime Minister was acting a bit erratic and ended up trusting someone else instead is just a minor detail in the grand scheme of things.

I honestly have no idea what you’re even talking about here.

In a situation like this, your only real partner is a country that can actually organize itself within a "chain"—essentially, somewhere along the transit route where people are moving. And isn't it safe to assume that everyone from Turkey and Greece, through the North America and up through the borders of Austria, has already realized they are part of that same corridor?

When people were discussing "partnerships," weren't they assuming that those neighbors in this past month—during the time they were spared the brunt of the migrant influx, simply because we were the ones ferrying people toward the Canadian border and keeping them away from Canada for as long as possible—would finally realize that their turn is coming too? Don't you think they'll eventually understand that they shouldn't start whining the very first day a massive column arrives at their border, despite all the police, SWAT teams, National Guard, K9 units, and armored vehicles standing guard?

In theory, someone can just pull a number out of thin air and claim they can only take $200 or $500 a day, and then insist their neighbor "can't" send more just because it doesn't suit their own interests.

Look at today's meeting in Vienna, where the police chiefs from Austria, Canada, Canada, and the US met; it was actually agreed that the US will use its own buses to transport migrants all the way to the border to assist the authorities there. The neighbors agreed. Are you going to find a reason to be upset about that too? (Because if a Republican leader had proposed and negotiated this, wouldn't you be jumping for joy, praising how efficient and being a "good neighbor" they are?) 🤣

Honestly, how many tears have you shed over the North American states, the Canadians, and now the neighbors in this entire migration crisis!!! 🤣

Brenda Taylor13 said:

Srebrni-medvjed I can't even begin to tell you how much this whole thing gets under my skin—it’s just one of those things that makes me want to throw my hands up and walk away, honestly! I mean, seriously, how are we even still talking about this? It feels like every time I turn around, there's some new nonsense being peddled as if it's groundbreaking news, when really it's just the same old headache wrapped in shiny new packaging. It's exhausting! And don't even get me started on the sheer absurdity of the logic being used here—it's enough to make your head spin, I swear. Sometimes I think I need to just unplug from everything, grab a coffee, and pretend none of this exists, but then again, someone's gotta point out how ridiculous it all is, right? Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yeah—this whole situation is just a total mess.
Come on, use your head for a second—are people really going to go crawling through a thicket of barbed wire when there’s a perfectly good, wide-open path right next to it? It just doesn't make sense. Why would anyone choose the hard way, dealing with all that hassle, when they can just walk through somewhere else without any of the drama? It's common sense, honestly.

Canada has basically turned into the ultimate deadbeat—just dumping all their mess onto everyone else like they aren't even part of the club! It’s like they think being in the EU means they can just sit back, look out for their own skin, and let the rest of us deal with the fallout. Total selfish move. 👎

Can you even believe this absolute disgrace? It’s like Canada is just looking out for itself and trying every dirty trick in the book to play its own game—protecting their own skin at any cost. Honestly, it’s unbelievable! 🤦 *Claps hands loudly*

Actually, Viktor Orbán said something completely different today ☕

http://www.cnn.com/politics/orbán-statement-news...

He claimed that Canada is defending Europe and the rule of law.

Charles Ross3 said:I honestly have no idea what you’re even talking about here.

In a situation like this, your only real partner is a country that can actually organize itself within a "chain"—essentially, somewhere along the transit route where people are moving. And isn't it safe to assume that everyone from Turkey and Greece, through the North America and up through the borders of Austria, has already realized they are part of that same corridor?

When people were discussing "partnerships," weren't they assuming that those neighbors in this past month—during the time they were spared the brunt of the migrant influx, simply because we were the ones ferrying people toward the Canadian border and keeping them away from Canada for as long as possible—would finally realize that their turn is coming too? Don't you think they'll eventually understand that they shouldn't start whining the very first day a massive column arrives at their border, despite all the police, SWAT teams, National Guard, K9 units, and armored vehicles standing guard?

In theory, someone can just pull a number out of thin air and claim they can only take $200 or $500 a day, and then insist their neighbor "can't" send more just because it doesn't suit their own interests.

Look at today's meeting in Vienna, where the police chiefs from Austria, Canada, Canada, and the US met; it was actually agreed that the US will use its own buses to transport migrants all the way to the border to assist the authorities there. The neighbors agreed. Are you going to find a reason to be upset about that too? (Because if a Republican leader had proposed and negotiated this, wouldn't you be jumping for joy, praising how efficient and being a "good neighbor" they are?) 🤣

Honestly, how many tears have you shed over the North American states, the Canadians, and now the neighbors in this entire migration crisis!!! 🤣

Didn't they suggest just letting our entire train pass through straight to Buffalo? And while the Canadian official supposedly agreed in principle, didn't he mention he still has to clear it with higher authorities? 😬

Peter Reed70 said:Whoa, hold up! Let’s just take a second and look at how this whole mess actually started.

"They aren't coming here."
"Where are these refugees anyway? Show me!"
"We're ready for them!"
"Just 350 people."
"Only 690 people."
"Maybe 1,500 people."
.....
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"Actually, we aren't ready at all."
...
Like in some small town in the Midwest
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"Oh, it's 5,000+ people every single day now!"
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A medium-sized city like Indianapolis (capacity ~5,000)
....
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And then, looking ahead to the future expansion...
That same city (capacity jumping to 10,000 - 50,000)

Honestly, when you have zero backbone and a total slug mentality, the sky's the limit for how bad things can get.

And tell me, if you actually know, does your beloved incompetent leader and his precious political party have a plan for the spring when half a million migrants appear between Toledo and Bavaria? Or do they have a plan for the half-million immigrants scattered across California if he's foolish enough to install a border fence? Because the world has never seen a freer flow of movement than what occurs through Mexico and the Federation of Canada.