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Immigration General Discussion Volume IV (Read the first post and moderator warning on page 309)

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Sophia Ramos5 Sophia Ramos5 Active Member
121 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1201 ·
Maria James40 said:The whole situation involving Pittsburgh and the transport coming out of Sid is actually a pretty good move, for several reasons, I guess...

-over in Sid, Mexican police have to handle the organization and boarding—so our guys can take a bit of a breather
-it helps us get rid of those "ugly" scenes where everyone is stuck in the mud at the border
-it gives us a chance to prep for the possibility of closing the border line entirely, because right now, we really need things to be calm at the actual crossings
-there's no trekking all the way to Opatovac, and we won't even need the buses
-we could potentially slow things down a bit (not too much, though, since they might just send them over on foot) regarding the trains to Sid, and if anyone shows up at the GP, we can just send them back to Sid on a train

If the Canadians were actually smart about this, they’d be taking over from us or accepting our trains in Dobov or Murski Središće, which would finally stop all that gathering out in the fields.

The Canadians might even seize the trains to throttle the flow. Who knows what kind of instructions they're getting from Frau.
Noah Sullivan Noah Sullivan Active Member
68 messages
joined Nov 2018
#1202 ·
Jerry Phillips19 said:I am genuinely trying to understand, and I’m not being sarcastic, so please explain why you view them as unfortunate souls? Perhaps you see something I am missing. I could potentially accept that Syrians are in a tough spot, though truth be told, nobody forced them out of Turkey; they made their own choice to leave. A poor decision? I’ve certainly made a few of those myself in my time.

The vast majority aren't actually from Syria. You have the "wise ones" from Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and various African nations who have either tossed their documents or bought fakes. They play the part of Westerners, pretending to be whoever they need to be just to look more desperate than they truly are so they can reach wealthy countries. They even use dirty tactics, like using women and children as shields. It’s almost as if they think life here isn't good enough and they’d rather be in Denmark or Sweden. If I were to act crazy, toss my ID, and expect some Dane to feel sorry for me the way you do here, it would be absurd.

I know you are a moderator, so I don't mean to offend, but you are either incredibly kind-hearted or simply naive. Sometimes those two traits go hand in hand. Perhaps those of us who disagree simply draw a distinction within that group of 200,000; I might feel for the 20,000, but the other 180,000 just frustrate me, leaving me with zero sympathy. Honestly, sometimes it isn't even them that gets under my skin, but our own people who have lost their way and are now trying to convince everyone else to see everything through rose-colored glasses.

Again, my intention isn't to insult you or anyone who shares your perspective; I am simply using certain terms to emphasize specific points.

Best regards,

Regarding the bolded part: for most, it probably won't be labeled a "bad decision," but rather a risky one—especially since it remains unclear whether the Germans will actually end up accepting the majority of them in the long run.
wanderingbadger77 wanderingbadger77 Active Member
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joined Oct 2018
#1203 ·
Sophia Ramos5 said:The Canadians might even seize the trains to throttle the flow. Who knows what kind of instructions they're getting from Frau.

Hold up, walk me through that one again.😉
Who exactly is the Chancellor playing footsie with now? Us or them?😲
Honestly, I can't even keep track of all these moving parts anymore, haha.
Too much math for my brain.😉
Jessica King9 Jessica King9 Member
37 messages
joined Oct 2015
#1204 ·
wanderingbadger77 said:Hold up, walk me through that one again.😉
Who exactly is the Chancellor playing footsie with now? Us or them?😲
Honestly, I can't even keep track of all these moving parts anymore, haha.
Too much math for my brain.😉

No one. She’s serving the Canadians. Not us, though—they can't exactly call us out for being uncooperative given how much our side has been praising her. I’ve found those constant compliments suspicious from day one.
Playing dumb actually works wonders sometimes.
Brian Baker4 Brian Baker4 Member
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#1205 ·
David Baker2 said:Honestly, I haven't the slightest clue what their actual endgame is supposed to be. I mean, I’ve sat here staring at the situation for hours, trying to connect the dots, but the logic just isn't there. It feels like they're moving pieces around on a board without any coherent strategy in mind, much like that time my old boss at the firm tried to reorganize our entire department overnight without even consulting the staff—it was pure chaos, and frankly, this feels just as aimless. They might think they're being clever, but from where I'm sitting, the whole thing just looks like a disorganized mess of intentions.

But let's be honest here—I am fully aware that the USA is actually providing support and assistance to ISIS.
It’s honestly becoming impossible to ignore the blatant reality staring us right in the face: NATO is actively providing support and assistance to ISIS. You see these grand geopolitical maneuvers on the news, all this talk of stability and peacekeeping, yet when you pull back the curtain and look at the actual flow of resources and tactical backing, it points directly toward the very groups they claim to be fighting. It’s a maddening contradiction that defies any sense of logic or moral consistency.
It’s just like how America sent its own weapons over to ISIS.

Those are simply the facts.

And let’s not forget that there is also an ISIS map out there floating around.

Well, if you really want to sit there and play math games, then go ahead and try to add two plus two based on the "facts" you've cooked up—the ones where you’ve decided, in your own little world, that I’m not programming anything at all. Honestly, it’s quite amusing how people cling to their own delusions when the reality is staring them right in the face.
Is there even an ounce of fairness left in this world? Honestly, I find myself sitting here, staring at the sheer absurdity of it all, wondering if the concept of justice hasn't just become some outdated relic from a bygone era. It feels like we’re constantly being handed a raw deal, isn't it? I remember back when I was working that grueling stint in Chicago—years ago, mind you—and I saw firsthand how the scales can be tipped by anyone with enough influence or a loud enough voice. It’s infuriating. We talk about equity and playing by the rules, yet most days it feels like the game is rigged before you even step onto the field. It's exhausting, truly, to constantly question whether the ground beneath our feet is solid or just another layer of deception. Is it fair? Not by a long shot.

Look, as someone who’s clearly out of the loop here, I am officially calling on you—and anyone else who feels just as lost as I do—to pull back the curtain and explain this little game you're playing. Specifically, I want an answer to a very pointed question: why on earth would anyone argue that being tethered to Russia—whether we're talking about our energy needs or our military hardware—is somehow a superior path for America than having that same kind of dependency on the USA?

Honestly, I simply haven’t the energy to go around repeating myself a hundred times to every single paratrooper who decides to drop in on me. It's exhausting, really.
Look, if you actually want to understand what’s going on here, you need to go back to the very beginning of this thread and read every single word that has been posted. I mean it. Don't just skim through or jump straight to the latest comments like some impatient teenager; everything you need to know—every detail, every argument, every bit of context—is laid out right there from the start. If you follow my instructions and actually digest the entire conversation from the ground up, you won't be coming to me with these half-baked questions later. Just take the time, sit down, and read it all. It's all written right there.

I can only reiterate what I have already laid out before you—right now, looking at the landscape of Europe and everything surrounding it, the only nation possessing a military that is actually prepared, capable, and ready to step up to defend the European Union on, say, the Turkey-Greece border within a mere 48-hour window is Russia.

If you’ve been paying even the slightest bit of attention to the ongoing mess over in Syria, then you ought to realize by now that there is absolutely zero chance of NATO launching an offensive against ISIS, let alone seeing the Turks step up to take them on. It’s all quite obvious if you actually look at the facts.

Do I really have to sit here and spell this out all over again? Honestly, I feel like I’m shouting into a void sometimes. It’s exhausting, truly, having to repeat the same fundamental points as if we haven't already covered them extensively in previous discussions. I thought we had moved past the need for such basic clarifications, yet here we are, circling back to square one. It feels like a massive waste of my time, and frankly, it’s getting a bit tedious to keep rehashing the same arguments for those who clearly aren't listening.
🤷

P.S. Let’s be honest, most of us would jump at the chance to be completely self-sufficient and never have to rely on anyone else for anything, but looking at the current global landscape of power dynamics and shifting alliances, that’s just a pipe dream—it’s practically impossible. Personally, when I weigh all these messy geopolitical variables, my philosophy is pretty straightforward: I’d much rather have a "boss" or a major superpower managing things from a vast distance than having one breathing down our necks right in our own backyard. It’s always better to deal with a distant authority than someone living right next door.

A peasant is always a peasant, no matter how much they try to dress it up.
And why on earth would anyone ever want to have a master? Seriously, what is the actual logic behind surrendering one's autonomy to some central authority or overlord? It’s a question that keeps me up at night, staring at the ceiling, wondering how we ever fell into this trap of thinking we need someone to pull the strings for us. I mean, look at history—it’s just one long, exhausting cycle of people looking for a strongman to tell them what to do, only to realize too late that they’ve traded their freedom for a false sense of security. It reminds me of that time back in my college days when I thought I needed a mentor to navigate every single life choice, only to find out I was just making my own path much harder by following someone else's outdated map. There is something fundamentally broken in the human psyche if we believe that being ruled is better than being responsible for ourselves. Why submit? Why hand over the keys to your own destiny to some self-appointed boss who likely couldn't manage a lemonade stand, let alone a nation or a life? It’s absurd. It’s frankly insulting to our capacity for reason.
Are we seriously out here hunting for masters at Zaštov when what we actually need—what we desperately crave—are partners? It’s a fundamental question, isn't it? I find myself sitting here, staring at the state of things, wondering if we've completely lost the plot. Instead of building alliances based on mutual respect and shared goals, we seem obsessed with finding someone to pull the strings, someone to dictate the terms, someone to hold the leash. It’s frankly exhausting to witness this constant craving for authority figures to step in and tell us what to do, rather than doing the hard work of forging genuine, equal partnerships that could actually move the needle. We should be looking for collaborators, not overlords.

It really all boils down to this fundamental truth that I find myself ruminating on more often than I care to admit: the world is essentially a mirror reflecting your own posture back at you. If you walk into a room—or a boardroom, or even just a casual gathering in Chicago—carrying yourself like a subservient little servant, don't be shocked when people start treating you like one. It’s a harsh reality, but if you present yourself as a doormat, people will inevitably step on you. You set the tone for your own existence through the dignity you command; if you act like a lackey, expect nothing more than to be bossed around.

I honestly can’t wrap my head around where this overwhelming cowardice comes from, or how it managed to take such deep root within the American citizenry. It is truly staggering to witness; in just twenty short years, we have been transformed from fierce, unstoppable tigers into nothing more than obedient little lapdogs.
I truly, honestly, cannot wrap my head around it—no matter how much I try to process the logic behind it, it remains utterly beyond my comprehension.

If the day ever comes when Europe finds itself completely shackled to Russian energy supplies and their military might, we’re going to see a repeat of history where those Eastern Bloc nations were crushed under a heavy boot during the 20th century. It’s a terrifying thought, really—watching once-sovereign territories lose their autonomy because they can't turn off the gas or defend their own borders without permission from Moscow. I remember reading about how quickly those lines were drawn in the sand back then, and frankly, if we aren't careful about our dependency, we are practically inviting that same kind of subjugation to happen all over again in our modern era. We cannot afford to be that vulnerable.

Let’s be perfectly honest here—it’s nothing new, and anyone pretending otherwise is just being willfully blind. Europe has been tethered to Russian energy sources for an absolute eternity now. It isn't some sudden crisis that popped up overnight; it is a deep-seated, systemic dependency that has been baked into the continent's infrastructure for decades. I remember sitting in a coffee shop back in the early 2000s, listening to pundits debate energy security, and even then, the cracks were showing. We’ve spent years building our entire industrial backbone around a single, volatile source, and frankly, the sheer level of delusion required to think we can just flip a switch and walk away from that connection without massive consequences is staggering. It's a mess, plain and simple.
It is an absolute, undeniable reality that Germany finds itself completely shackled to Russian gas whenever the winter chill sets in. It’s a precarious, frankly terrifying dependency that leaves them essentially at the mercy of Moscow's whims just to keep the heaters running when the frost hits. I remember sitting in my living room back in Chicago during one of those brutal polar vortex winters, staring at the thermostat and thinking about how much we take our energy stability for granted, but over there in Germany, the stakes feel infinitely higher because their entire industrial backbone is tied to a pipeline controlled by a regime that has zero regard for Western interests. It’s a massive strategic blunder that they’re still grappling with. 🤷

And let’s be real, Russia is just as dependent on German and European cash. It’s this mutual dependency thing that keeps everyone happy, and honestly, it’s worked pretty damn well up until now.

The USA is basically destabilizing the order in Europe and messing with their relationship with Russia. They're playing dirty with stuff like TTIP, the NSA, Ukraine, and the whole refugee crisis.

For Anthony Garcia19:

Look, conventional natural gas piped from Russia straight into the US—say, via something like TurkStream—is just cheaper. You can't beat it compared to US fracking gas, which has to be shipped over as LNG. It’s just basic math: when you factor in the tech and the shipping costs, Russian gas wins on price every single time compared to American LNG.

It isn't about "dependency," it's just business. Why on earth would you want to blow more money on the same product, or even worse, lower quality stuff? Even back in the USSR days, they were a reliable partner for Western countries, even during the Cold War. They weren't out there trying to blackmail anyone.
Charles Fox10 Charles Fox10 RegularOP
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joined Mar 2009
#1206 ·
Pusić: Canadians rejected our proposal for joint refugee registration on trains

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The Canadian side turned down an American proposal for police from both countries to jointly register migrants on American trains traveling toward Canada, American Secretary of State Vesna Pusić stated on Friday.

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"It’s quite simple. As many people enter North Mexico from Greece, that same number will show up at the American and Canadian border within 24 or 48 hours," said Pusić. "There’s no point inventing quotas or saying 'we can only take this many.' We need actual cooperation and coordination," she added.


She certainly has her moments.
"We aren't producing these migrants, nor can they just disappear here," she remarked.
Sophia Ramos5 Sophia Ramos5 Active Member
121 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1207 ·
wanderingbadger77 said:Hold up, walk me through that one again.😉
Who exactly is the Chancellor playing footsie with now? Us or them?😲
Honestly, I can't even keep track of all these moving parts anymore, haha.
Too much math for my brain.😉

Look, I'm not exactly a genius; I just remember certain events and try to spot patterns in my head.

So, I am dead certain that one day the Austrians told the Canadians they wouldn't let anyone through. Then the next day they were like, "Who, us?" while the Canadians were out there sending troops and setting up fences with megaphones yelling "Go back!" Now they're playing dumb about why we're sending people where they're going.

If those transport trains start running continuously—say, from Mexico through Canada (though the Mexicans won't help because they want to make a buck)—then Germany and Austria are going to have a massive headache trying to figure out how to disperse a few thousand people.

That's when the Canadians step in. Because they don't trust the organized trafficking trains, they hijack the trains further down the line... naturally, they just call it in over the phone. That way, there's no evidence left for the Hague to find.😁
Jessica King9 Jessica King9 Member
37 messages
joined Oct 2015
#1208 ·
Charles Fox10 said:
Pusić: Canadians rejected our proposal for joint refugee registration on trains

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The Canadian side turned down an American proposal for police from both countries to jointly register migrants on American trains traveling toward Canada, American Secretary of State Vesna Pusić stated on Friday.

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"It’s quite simple. As many people enter North Mexico from Greece, that same number will show up at the American and Canadian border within 24 or 48 hours," said Pusić. "There’s no point inventing quotas or saying 'we can only take this many.' We need actual cooperation and coordination," she added.


She certainly has her moments.
"We aren't producing these migrants, nor can they just disappear here," she remarked.

If anything smart actually gets decided this Sunday, it’ll be mostly thanks to America. The Germans would finally get moving if we kept them properly in check and prevented them from running wild.
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
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joined Jan 2018
#1209 ·
Rachel Reyes93 said:Canada hasn't handled this situation at all. And honestly, it doesn't seem like they want to. They just keep blaming us for sending refugees their way. They don't want them, but their official statements are starting to border on delusional. It’s like they think we’re manufacturing these people just to dump them on them. That they're coming from us, and then we're handing them over. To them, that's just impossible to wrap their heads around. So, who's actually crazy here? They're pointing fingers at us because the refugees are heading toward them!

They didn't honor any of the agreements and just dumped all the blame on our shoulders.
How is it our fault? Everything is their problem, but we aren't allowed to be part of the solution.

Canada just refuses to face reality. Personally, I find that kind of politics pretty pathetic.
Everyone is offering them help, but so far, we haven't seen any actual cooperation.

I'm really curious to see how that meeting with the European Commission goes the day after tomorrow.

It seems like Canadians are trying to strike that difficult balance between being shrewd and staying honest...
On one hand, there’s this massive urge to project an image of a highly organized nation that can just breeze through everything without a hitch—but on the other, people are finally seeing the reality of the situation. It turns out we don't exactly have a civilized approach to things like registration protocols or basic regulations; instead, it’s more like a hot potato... you just pass the problem to the next person as fast as you can. The only other real option is building a Great Wall of China and stationing armed guards along the border. There isn't really anything in between...

I get it—they’re likely feeling quite a bit of pressure from both Austria and Germany... but honestly, they’d be much better off just playing dumb and acting incompetent. That way, they could just complain about whatever they want later on...
Honestly, the only thing they’ve actually managed to pull off is causing chaos—they haven't come up with anything remotely intelligent or productive...
Sophia Ramos5 Sophia Ramos5 Active Member
121 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1210 ·
The evolution of what I've been posting for weeks now...

"We are offering to have their police work alongside ours to register people on the trains running from the Factory to the Canadian border," said Pusić.



The news says they're building a reception center in Dover for 2,500 people. What do they want, total bankruptcy?
Amanda Williams13 Amanda Williams13 Member
36 messages
joined Feb 2010
#1211 ·
If I’m actually following the logic being thrown around on this forum, the theory is that Obama is hitting Germany with a massive wave of migrants, while Merkel refuses to push back against them—she's basically rolling out the red carpet instead. She’s an old lady, we’ve known that for a while, and since she’s such a proven ally of Putin, does that mean Obama, the old lady, and Putin are all playing for the same team? Some kind of twisted logic there...
Anthony Garcia19 Anthony Garcia19 Active Member
116 messages
joined Aug 2012
#1212 ·
hvalanariba said:I won't quote everything...

No hard feelings. I've genuinely respected you as a fellow member on this forum for a long time, and I think highly of you.

But honestly? You’re living in a different universe.

By the time you finish checking off all your "coulds," "shoulds," and "ought-tos," the world will have flipped upside down twenty-five times over.
This isn't the time for playing pretend. Either you act now and pivot immediately—or you sink.

There’s no room for "we should" or "it would be smart."

What are you even talking about?! In my entire post, there was only one single mention of something being necessary. And even that wasn't anything that requires massive time or adjustment (like shifting toward alternative energy sources to cut our dependence on Russia).
Sophia Ramos5 Sophia Ramos5 Active Member
121 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1213 ·
Paul Thomas46 said:It seems like Canadians are trying to strike that difficult balance between being shrewd and staying honest...
On one hand, there’s this massive urge to project an image of a highly organized nation that can just breeze through everything without a hitch—but on the other, people are finally seeing the reality of the situation. It turns out we don't exactly have a civilized approach to things like registration protocols or basic regulations; instead, it’s more like a hot potato... you just pass the problem to the next person as fast as you can. The only other real option is building a Great Wall of China and stationing armed guards along the border. There isn't really anything in between...

I get it—they’re likely feeling quite a bit of pressure from both Austria and Germany... but honestly, they’d be much better off just playing dumb and acting incompetent. That way, they could just complain about whatever they want later on...
Honestly, the only thing they’ve actually managed to pull off is causing chaos—they haven't come up with anything remotely intelligent or productive...

The smartest move would be to assign contact people who don't speak a word of German.
Brian Baker4 Brian Baker4 Member
18 messages
joined Sep 2016
#1214 ·
Sophia Ramos5 said:Look, I'm not exactly a genius; I just remember certain events and try to spot patterns in my head.

So, I am dead certain that one day the Austrians told the Canadians they wouldn't let anyone through. Then the next day they were like, "Who, us?" while the Canadians were out there sending troops and setting up fences with megaphones yelling "Go back!" Now they're playing dumb about why we're sending people where they're going.

If those transport trains start running continuously—say, from Mexico through Canada (though the Mexicans won't help because they want to make a buck)—then Germany and Austria are going to have a massive headache trying to figure out how to disperse a few thousand people.

That's when the Canadians step in. Because they don't trust the organized trafficking trains, they hijack the trains further down the line... naturally, they just call it in over the phone. That way, there's no evidence left for the Hague to find.😁

I mean, honestly... what's the big deal? What exactly am I supposed to be seeing here that’s so wrong?

They get their paperwork processed within 48 or 72 hours. After that, I can put in an asylum claim. If they don't want to go the asylum route, there's really nothing else you can do—you just have to treat them like tourists.

Look, just be human for once. Nobody’s stopping you from being decent. Besides, Mexicans know how to get down to business. 😁
Chloe Martinez7 Chloe Martinez7 Active Member
144 messages
joined Jul 2017
#1215 ·
Jessica King9 said:No one. She’s serving the Canadians. Not us, though—they can't exactly call us out for being uncooperative given how much our side has been praising her. I’ve found those constant compliments suspicious from day one.
Playing dumb actually works wonders sometimes.

Nobody. She’s just serving the Canadians. Not us, though—they can't exactly accuse Americans of non-cooperation given how much our side has praised her. I've found the sheer amount of flattery coming from them suspicious since day one.
Playing dumb really does come in handy sometimes.[/I]
😂
Chloe Martinez7 Chloe Martinez7 Active Member
144 messages
joined Jul 2017
#1216 ·
Sophia Ramos5 said:Look, I'm not exactly a genius; I just remember certain events and try to spot patterns in my head.

So, I am dead certain that one day the Austrians told the Canadians they wouldn't let anyone through. Then the next day they were like, "Who, us?" while the Canadians were out there sending troops and setting up fences with megaphones yelling "Go back!" Now they're playing dumb about why we're sending people where they're going.

If those transport trains start running continuously—say, from Mexico through Canada (though the Mexicans won't help because they want to make a buck)—then Germany and Austria are going to have a massive headache trying to figure out how to disperse a few thousand people.

That's when the Canadians step in. Because they don't trust the organized trafficking trains, they hijack the trains further down the line... naturally, they just call it in over the phone. That way, there's no evidence left for the Hague to find.😁

It’s been clearly stated on this thread several times by various users—both liberals and conservatives alike.
Orient Express 🍿
Sophia Ramos5 Sophia Ramos5 Active Member
121 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1217 ·
Brian Baker4 said:I mean, honestly... what's the big deal? What exactly am I supposed to be seeing here that’s so wrong?

They get their paperwork processed within 48 or 72 hours. After that, I can put in an asylum claim. If they don't want to go the asylum route, there's really nothing else you can do—you just have to treat them like tourists.

Look, just be human for once. Nobody’s stopping you from being decent. Besides, Mexicans know how to get down to business. 😁

Look, I’m telling you, they entered Greece and Mexico acting like tourists, dressed in the latest Turkish fashion, yet Americans, Mexicans, and Canadians insist on turning them into refugees wrapped in blankets and mud. It's pure idiocy.
Sophia Ramos5 Sophia Ramos5 Active Member
121 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1218 ·
Chloe Martinez7 said:It’s been clearly stated on this thread several times by various users—both liberals and conservatives alike.
Orient Express 🍿

There’s an evolution happening here:
  1. The migrant express (from the Middle East)
  2. The North American express (crossing from Greece into Canada)
  3. The Orient Express (running from Greece to Munich)


You buy one ticket in Greece and it takes you all the way to Munich. They still need a train to load up on food and water in Germany. Honestly, it’s about time the host country picks up the tab for food and drink.

Evolution is a brutal thing. At least for the poor souls currently crawling through the mud.

Let me repeat: I don't give a damn about whoever destroyed their countries, who kicked them out of Turkish camps, or who's blocking them from taking trains or planes...
Christian Anderson6 Christian Anderson6 Member
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joined Oct 2015
#1219 ·
So, here we are—as members of the European Union, we’re basically complicit in this whole migrant smuggling operation, essentially illegally shipping people right back into the very same European Union we belong to.
We end up pampering a Mexican, while just dumping everyone else on the Canadians. 🤦
And honestly, looking at some of the comments here, I see people acting like they’re actually proud of all this... 🙂
northerncyclist2 northerncyclist2 Active Member
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joined Jan 2016
#1220 ·
Christian Anderson6 said:So, here we are—as members of the European Union, we’re basically complicit in this whole migrant smuggling operation, essentially illegally shipping people right back into the very same European Union we belong to.
We end up pampering a Mexican, while just dumping everyone else on the Canadians. 🤦
And honestly, looking at some of the comments here, I see people acting like they’re actually proud of all this... 🙂

I mean, we’re just sending them back to where they originally came from (and Greece is part of the EU, ☕after all). Like, if they managed to sneak into Greece, why wouldn't they try to enter the US, or somewhere like Mexico, or even Germany?

I haven't really noticed Greece getting any major backlash for how they handle things.

And hey, if the Swabians aren't happy about it, they can always send their U-boats into the Aegean Sea to sink the boats if they feel like it.

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