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Immigration General Discussion Volume IV (Read the first post and moderator warning on page 309)

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Dennis Hall41 Dennis Hall41 Active Member
55 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1681 ·
And they’ll find a way in—Tanes basically said himself that none of this stops immigrants from hitting the European Union somehow eventually.

Not to mention the Turks will be the ones sending them. If the deal is that Turkey gets to pick who they send, you can bet your life it won't be poets or gifted kids.
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
626 messages
joined Sep 2015
#1682 ·
And all because of some crazy lady from Germany.
Peter Reed70 Peter Reed70 Active Member
77 messages
joined Oct 2015
#1683 ·
Scott Rodriguez7 said:Another heart-wrenching headline about refugees: "Our children are dying..."

Look, I’m all for the US getting involved and providing food, medical supplies, or even just some decent temporary shelter for these kids and their families. That’s the humanitarian thing to do.

But if you actually read the article, it says they’re refusing to go back to the camps because they don't want to give up their dreams of getting into the EU—so the subtext here is basically: "Help us get into the EU."🤔
The kids are hungry and exhausted, sure, but it feels like they’re being used to pull at our heartstrings. It’s like people are willing to gamble with their own children's health just to reach a specific goal.

It’s the same old tactic: holding children up toward the cameras like sacrificial lambs to trigger an emotional response. Honestly, when it comes to media coverage, that’s about as low as it gets.
They even mention being ready to push forward by force, completely bypassing any national laws or regulations.

As much as this kind of news hits you right in the gut, I really think it’s time we draw a hard line in the sand. If we don't hold firm, thousands more will just keep using the exact same stories to bypass the system and flood into the EU.


You really think places like Turkey or Greece aren't dealing with this kind of stuff too? Come on! It’s happening everywhere!

Wait, hold up! I was just falling down this massive rabbit hole on Wikipedia—you know how it goes, one minute you're looking up a recipe and the next you're deep in the archives—and I stumbled onto the page for the Special Activities Division. Man, talk about intense stuff! It’s basically the top-tier, "off the books" side of the CIA. We're talking about those elite units that handle everything from unconventional warfare to direct action. It's wild to think about how much happens behind the scenes that most people never even hear a whisper about. It's like the shadow version of the regular military, but way more specialized and secretive. I saw Dennis Hall41 mentioning something similar the other day regarding covert operations, and honestly? He wasn't wrong. The sheer scale of how these types of organizations influence global politics through specialized tactics is just mind-blowing. It really makes you look at international news differently when you realize there's a whole layer of strategic maneuvering happening under the surface. Crazy, right?!
So I was just falling down this massive rabbit hole on Wikipedia—you know how it goes, one click leads to twenty more and suddenly it’s 3 AM—and I stumbled onto the whole page about Psychological warfare. Man, things can get dark! It’s all about that deep-level mental maneuvering, trying to influence how people think, feel, or act through various tactics. It isn't just some movie trope either; it's a legit strategy used to shake up an opponent's resolve. We're talking everything from spreading rumors to full-blown Information Warfare designed to mess with a government's stability by targeting the public. It’s wild! Like, you think you're just reading a news story or seeing a viral clip, but maybe it's actually part of some massive effort to win over Hearts and Minds? Who even knows anymore?! Anyway, just thought it was super fascinating. Definitely makes you look at your social media feed a little differently, right? Stay curious, folks!

So, get this—you’ve got these Political Action Committees running around behind the scenes, right? It’s wild! They’re basically pulling all the strings when it comes to covert influence, full-on Psy Ops, and even straight-up economic warfare. Like, seriously, they're out there playing the game on a whole different level!

So, let’s talk about Psychological warfare—or PSYWAR, if you want to sound official! Honestly, there are a million ways people label this stuff. You’ve got MISO, Psy Ops, Political Warfare, even that whole "Hearts and Minds" thing everyone talks about, plus the classic old-school propaganda. [1] Basically, the whole idea is just any move made using psychological tricks to get a specific, planned reaction out of people. Like, you're pulling the strings to make them feel or act exactly how you want. [2] It gets pretty wild, too. They use all sorts of different techniques to mess with how a target audience thinks, what they believe in, their emotions, their logic, or even just how they behave. Sometimes it's used to squeeze out confessions or just to double down on certain attitudes that help whoever is running the show. And yeah, sometimes they mix it in with black ops or those sneaky false flag tactics. [3][4] But it's not just about making people agree with you, either. A huge part of it is totally crushing the enemy's spirit—using tactics specifically designed to tank the morale of troops and leave them feeling depressed or defeated. And don't think it's just about soldiers, either! The targets can be entire governments, big organizations, specific groups, or even just single individuals. Plus, with how much tech and media we have now, Information Warfare means civilians in other countries can be hit hard too, all just to shake things up and force a change in their government's hand. Crazy, right?


Man, if you guys remember back at the start when Cipras actually followed through on that threat and just started flooding Europe with migrants... it was wild! I mean, the Mexicans were trying to hold the line with force, but then they got hit with all those media images of kids—total sensationalism, right? The pressure was insane! So they basically just folded and said, "Forget this, here are your 'children'!" Yeah, right... more like young, able-bodied medical students ready for duty. Total joke! 🙂

I mean, even Milanović tried that whole thing where he "threatened" Orban on CNN and the BBC... but hey, at least the Canadian guy actually had a backbone and some common sense, so it totally backfired on him!

What we’re seeing up there is just another attempt at that old-school cherry-picking tactic! They're basically hoping if they squeeze hard enough, they can force the Mexican border open and stop everyone from piling up in Greece. Just more of the same, honestly!

If this whole media blitz doesn't do the trick, then things are gonna get real—we're talking full-on breakthrough mode! Seriously, those guys over at the Mexican border aren't just ordering rubber bullets for the hell of it, you know? They've got a plan! ☕

Look, those Mexicans aren't out here just doing whatever they want, okay? They aren't crazy! It’s all happening because they have this silent green light from Germany—you can take that to the bank! Honestly, Germany can't even say "NO" if they wanted to, because they've basically got Austria acting like their loyal little satellite. It's wild!

Man, things have gone totally off the rails! Greece completely screwed the pooch on this one. Honestly, I just can't believe if Cipras actually had any clue what kind of Edrogen policy was about to go down in Syria—I mean, that whole mess involving cooperation with ISIS? And don't even get me started on how they're playing with the European Union! Total chaos!
Cipras let the tiger out of the cage, and now he’s realizing he can't just whistle it back in!
restlessangler61 restlessangler61 Member
12 messages
joined Feb 2018
#1684 ·
Is Merkel just relieved the migrant flow has slowed down? She isn't saying it outright, of course—she’s masking it behind this sudden concern for the Greeks. How will those poor Greeks cope? It’s funny how she showed zero empathy for those same people just a year ago, yet now she's suddenly playing the humanitarian. What goes on in that woman's head remains a complete mystery.
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
144 messages
joined Oct 2017
#1685 ·
Peter Reed70 said:You really think places like Turkey or Greece aren't dealing with this kind of stuff too? Come on! It’s happening everywhere!

Wait, hold up! I was just falling down this massive rabbit hole on Wikipedia—you know how it goes, one minute you're looking up a recipe and the next you're deep in the archives—and I stumbled onto the page for the Special Activities Division. Man, talk about intense stuff! It’s basically the top-tier, "off the books" side of the CIA. We're talking about those elite units that handle everything from unconventional warfare to direct action. It's wild to think about how much happens behind the scenes that most people never even hear a whisper about. It's like the shadow version of the regular military, but way more specialized and secretive. I saw Dennis Hall41 mentioning something similar the other day regarding covert operations, and honestly? He wasn't wrong. The sheer scale of how these types of organizations influence global politics through specialized tactics is just mind-blowing. It really makes you look at international news differently when you realize there's a whole layer of strategic maneuvering happening under the surface. Crazy, right?!
So I was just falling down this massive rabbit hole on Wikipedia—you know how it goes, one click leads to twenty more and suddenly it’s 3 AM—and I stumbled onto the whole page about Psychological warfare. Man, things can get dark! It’s all about that deep-level mental maneuvering, trying to influence how people think, feel, or act through various tactics. It isn't just some movie trope either; it's a legit strategy used to shake up an opponent's resolve. We're talking everything from spreading rumors to full-blown Information Warfare designed to mess with a government's stability by targeting the public. It’s wild! Like, you think you're just reading a news story or seeing a viral clip, but maybe it's actually part of some massive effort to win over Hearts and Minds? Who even knows anymore?! Anyway, just thought it was super fascinating. Definitely makes you look at your social media feed a little differently, right? Stay curious, folks!

So, get this—you’ve got these Political Action Committees running around behind the scenes, right? It’s wild! They’re basically pulling all the strings when it comes to covert influence, full-on Psy Ops, and even straight-up economic warfare. Like, seriously, they're out there playing the game on a whole different level!

So, let’s talk about Psychological warfare—or PSYWAR, if you want to sound official! Honestly, there are a million ways people label this stuff. You’ve got MISO, Psy Ops, Political Warfare, even that whole "Hearts and Minds" thing everyone talks about, plus the classic old-school propaganda. [1] Basically, the whole idea is just any move made using psychological tricks to get a specific, planned reaction out of people. Like, you're pulling the strings to make them feel or act exactly how you want. [2] It gets pretty wild, too. They use all sorts of different techniques to mess with how a target audience thinks, what they believe in, their emotions, their logic, or even just how they behave. Sometimes it's used to squeeze out confessions or just to double down on certain attitudes that help whoever is running the show. And yeah, sometimes they mix it in with black ops or those sneaky false flag tactics. [3][4] But it's not just about making people agree with you, either. A huge part of it is totally crushing the enemy's spirit—using tactics specifically designed to tank the morale of troops and leave them feeling depressed or defeated. And don't think it's just about soldiers, either! The targets can be entire governments, big organizations, specific groups, or even just single individuals. Plus, with how much tech and media we have now, Information Warfare means civilians in other countries can be hit hard too, all just to shake things up and force a change in their government's hand. Crazy, right?


Man, if you guys remember back at the start when Cipras actually followed through on that threat and just started flooding Europe with migrants... it was wild! I mean, the Mexicans were trying to hold the line with force, but then they got hit with all those media images of kids—total sensationalism, right? The pressure was insane! So they basically just folded and said, "Forget this, here are your 'children'!" Yeah, right... more like young, able-bodied medical students ready for duty. Total joke! 🙂

I mean, even Milanović tried that whole thing where he "threatened" Orban on CNN and the BBC... but hey, at least the Canadian guy actually had a backbone and some common sense, so it totally backfired on him!

What we’re seeing up there is just another attempt at that old-school cherry-picking tactic! They're basically hoping if they squeeze hard enough, they can force the Mexican border open and stop everyone from piling up in Greece. Just more of the same, honestly!

If this whole media blitz doesn't do the trick, then things are gonna get real—we're talking full-on breakthrough mode! Seriously, those guys over at the Mexican border aren't just ordering rubber bullets for the hell of it, you know? They've got a plan! ☕

Look, those Mexicans aren't out here just doing whatever they want, okay? They aren't crazy! It’s all happening because they have this silent green light from Germany—you can take that to the bank! Honestly, Germany can't even say "NO" if they wanted to, because they've basically got Austria acting like their loyal little satellite. It's wild!

Man, things have gone totally off the rails! Greece completely screwed the pooch on this one. Honestly, I just can't believe if Cipras actually had any clue what kind of Edrogen policy was about to go down in Syria—I mean, that whole mess involving cooperation with ISIS? And don't even get me started on how they're playing with the European Union! Total chaos!
Cipras let the tiger out of the cage, and now he’s realizing he can't just whistle it back in!

Why can't they just say NO?
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1686 ·
Ah, I remember when I first said that Europe (and the EU) would eventually trample over everything they spent decades building...
And honestly—this is just the beginning.

All because we failed to react properly right from the start...
silentfalcon3 silentfalcon3 Active Member
66 messages
joined May 2017
#1687 ·
It’s really no surprise at all.
They've spent so much time burying their heads in the sand, blinded by political correctness and those outdated Marxist utopias... they'll probably just cook up some new scheme to distract everyone, just like they always have, but there is one thing they will never be able to bring themselves to do:
Actually admit they were wrong and that the other side was right all along...
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1688 ·
Honestly, this whole idea floating around about routing through Mexico and then down the Mediterranean Coast just doesn't seem realistic to me.
Even Mexico has its own peak season—there’s no way they'd let anyone pass through their coastline or anywhere else at all.

Plus, the risk of getting stuck is just way too high for them.
And where exactly would they even work for them? They can barely manage things for themselves...😬
lonebadger6 lonebadger6 Active Member
165 messages
joined Oct 2018
#1689 ·
Sure thing. And if there’s any country in Europe where tourism carries more weight than it does here, it’s gotta be Mexico.
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1690 ·
lonebadger6 said:Sure thing. And if there’s any country in Europe where tourism carries more weight than it does here, it’s gotta be Mexico.

I mean, let's be real—where are they even going to put everyone? They barely have any space to work with... how could they possibly host thousands of people at once? Nowhere.
They aren't exactly thinking straight...
David Vaughn75 David Vaughn75 Regular
626 messages
joined Sep 2015
#1691 ·
And honestly? They won’t even bother hiking—they’d much rather just hop on those free buses and trains instead.
Robin Carter3 Robin Carter3 Newcomer
3 messages
joined Mar 2016
#1692 ·
Heh, hiking! In some places, it’s pure high-altitude alpinism...

And honestly, I think the folks over at Blank Page and KFC are spot on—there just isn't any room left for them, even if they were desperate enough to rely solely on the summer tourist season to survive.
stormyeagle60 stormyeagle60 Member
12 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1693 ·
They're going to try to force their way through, attempting to breach the North Mexican border, I'm sure of it. They need to send reinforcements to the North Mexicans.
And if Angelica would just step aside now, she could save Germany and all of Europe from her madness!
Paul Kern12 Paul Kern12 Active Member
106 messages
joined Feb 2018
#1694 ·
stormyeagle60 said:They're going to try to force their way through, attempting to breach the North Mexican border, I'm sure of it. They need to send reinforcements to the North Mexicans.
And if Angelica would just step aside now, she could save Germany and all of Europe from her madness!

It seems that's exactly what people in Canada are worried about—which is why they're suggesting the European Union provide aid to help North Mexico defend its borders.
If there were more sense being applied here, I suppose more countries would be stepping up to provide both personnel and equipment. It would probably be much simpler if they all stood together rather than everyone just looking out for themselves.

From what I can gather, Canada is taking extra precautions; they've already prepared materials to put up fencing along the border toward Romania. They're claiming it will take them about 249 miles ten days to get that fence installed.
Sam Murphy Sam Murphy Active Member
94 messages
joined May 2012
#1695 ·
Mexicans aren't just acting on their own whims—they aren't crazy... they have what I’d call a silent green light from Germany, if you can believe that. It’s almost as if Germany itself isn't even in a position to say "no," because they're essentially just following the lead of their loyal satellite, Austria...

Honestly, this feels pretty plausible to me; it's like Germany is physically unable to refuse because they're still carrying that heavy historical weight around their necks...
Gary Cox2 Gary Cox2 Active Member
55 messages
joined Oct 2018
#1696 ·
Sam Murphy said:
Mexicans aren't just acting on their own whims—they aren't crazy... they have what I’d call a silent green light from Germany, if you can believe that. It’s almost as if Germany itself isn't even in a position to say "no," because they're essentially just following the lead of their loyal satellite, Austria...

Honestly, this feels pretty plausible to me; it's like Germany is physically unable to refuse because they're still carrying that heavy historical weight around their necks...

Yeah... I'm right there with you.
The Germans really overplayed their hand. They're starting to realize things aren't going according to plan, no matter how you look at it. Plus, you've got people at home getting restless and pissed off. So, what's the move? How do you bail?
When you're a superpower, you just let the smaller guys do your dirty work for you.
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
144 messages
joined Oct 2017
#1697 ·
Gary Cox2 said:Yeah... I'm right there with you.
The Germans really overplayed their hand. They're starting to realize things aren't going according to plan, no matter how you look at it. Plus, you've got people at home getting restless and pissed off. So, what's the move? How do you bail?
When you're a superpower, you just let the smaller guys do your dirty work for you.

If that's the case, then Merkel needs to stop screwing everyone over, including Austria. And honestly, why should Germans feel any shame for something that happened 70 years ago and was already paid for?
Olivia Smith4 Olivia Smith4 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1698 ·
Do you all remember that woman Emma from Open? She popped up on Good Morning, America today—apparently, she’s planning to lead a protest to push for open borders.
Karen Doyle72 Karen Doyle72 Active Member
125 messages
joined May 2013
#1699 ·
Olivia Smith4 said:Do you all remember that woman Emma from Open? She popped up on Good Morning, America today—apparently, she’s planning to lead a protest to push for open borders.

I honestly can't decide if I'd rather see them get banned from protesting or just let them show up and embarrass themselves by how many people actually turn out.
Casey Ramos31 Casey Ramos31 Active Member
144 messages
joined Oct 2017
#1700 ·
Olivia Smith4 said:Do you all remember that woman Emma from Open? She popped up on Good Morning, America today—apparently, she’s planning to lead a protest to push for open borders.

Did that lunatic seriously call European countries fascists?

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