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Immigration General Discussion Volume IV (Read the first post and moderator warning on page 309)

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Participants Charles Fox10Peter Reed70Jessica King9Morgan Ruiz3Daniel Johnson3Sophia Myers7quietowl2redridge35Eric Newman4hollowlynx66Amanda Moore8Maria James40mellowotter17Paul Thomas46Ronald Howard3nimbleharbor10Brenda Carter39Steven Perez6crimsonjackal63Alexander Ortiz3Anthony Cooper2slyviper94Adam BarrettJoshua Kelly51 …
redridge35 redridge35 Member
40 messages
joined Sep 2016
#1721 ·
Kate Peterson80 said:The situation is beyond critical; these people have nowhere left to turn. It’s a far cry from the old days when folks migrated across continents just to find fertile soil or clear out some timber. Jobs are drying up here, and as you head further south, things only get bleaker. North Mexico and Greece won't last much longer. Mexico is facing massive flooding on top of an already crippled economy. Albanians and Mexicans can't afford a failed tourist season, and we're in even worse shape. Honestly, I think everyone is eventually just going to let them pass through.

If we just let them all through, someone else is going to show up—people coming from totally different areas that haven't been hit by war yet—and then what? Are we just supposed to sit around and wait until the public finally loses its mind?
Kate Peterson80 Kate Peterson80 Member
14 messages
joined Feb 2012
#1722 ·
redridge35 said:If we just let them all through, someone else is going to show up—people coming from totally different areas that haven't been hit by war yet—and then what? Are we just supposed to sit around and wait until the public finally loses its mind?


The only solution is to end the war driving them out immediately. We work on rebuilding non-stop and set a hard border for everyone else, just like we used to.
Alexander Ortiz3 Alexander Ortiz3 Active Member
164 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1723 ·
Kate Peterson80 said:The only solution is to end the war driving them out immediately. We work on rebuilding non-stop and set a hard border for everyone else, just like we used to.

The EU can't exactly string up its own barbed wire at its borders and claim it's defending itself... what kind of "stopping global wars" are we even talking about here? 🙂
Kate Peterson80 Kate Peterson80 Member
14 messages
joined Feb 2012
#1724 ·
Alexander Ortiz3 said:The EU can't exactly string up its own barbed wire at its borders and claim it's defending itself... what kind of "stopping global wars" are we even talking about here? 🙂

Yeah, right! Not a chance!
If things go south in Iran or Jordan, we'd be looking at
hundreds of thousands of refugees flooding into Europe every single day!
Alexander Ortiz3 Alexander Ortiz3 Active Member
164 messages
joined Jan 2012
#1725 ·
Kate Peterson80 said:Yeah, right! Not a chance!
If things go south in Iran or Jordan, we'd be looking at
hundreds of thousands of refugees flooding into Europe every single day!

We could supply North Mexico with the police and security equipment they’re asking us for, and then put some pressure on Greece to see if that actually does the trick.
Even Angela could send over some planes. We'll just have to wait and see.
Alternatively, we can focus on securing our own borders as tightly as possible—just like Canada, Bulgaria, and North Mexico have done. If every nation took that kind of stance, nobody would be able to slip through, and honestly, nobody would even bother trying to enter the EU.
It isn't all doom and gloom; there are still options on the table. Right now, our priority has to be making sure the tourist season doesn't fall apart, because if that fails, we're all going to be feeling the hunger.
Lisa Price5 Lisa Price5 Newcomer
1 message
joined Mar 2016
#1726 ·
restlessangler61 said:Is Merkel just relieved the migrant flow has slowed down? She isn't saying it outright, of course—she’s masking it behind this sudden concern for the Greeks. How will those poor Greeks cope? It’s funny how she showed zero empathy for those same people just a year ago, yet now she's suddenly playing the humanitarian. What goes on in that woman's head remains a complete mystery.

If you ask me, there's just nothing there but empty space and a light breeze!🤦
Benjamin Foster2 Benjamin Foster2 Member
16 messages
joined Apr 2016
#1727 ·
Lisa Price5 said:If you ask me, there's just nothing there but empty space and a light breeze!🤦

I don't know about that. I actually think she’s quite sharp—it just seems more likely she's either being paid off or someone's got something on her.
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
515 messages
joined Sep 2009
#1728 ·
Kate Peterson80 said:Yeah, right! Not a chance!
If things go south in Iran or Jordan, we'd be looking at
hundreds of thousands of refugees flooding into Europe every single day!

The user Rioboss believes that Egypt will be the next one to "collapse."
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1729 ·
Nicole Barrett76 said:The user Rioboss believes that Egypt will be the next one to "collapse."

But haven't they already reached their breaking point? 😕
Olivia Smith4 Olivia Smith4 Newcomer
8 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1730 ·
There’s a massive protest breaking out in Berlin right now directed at Angela Merkel—you can catch all the live coverage over on CNN
Kate Harris50 Kate Harris50 Member
28 messages
joined Feb 2018
#1731 ·
Olivia Smith4 said:There’s a massive protest breaking out in Berlin right now directed at Angela Merkel—you can catch all the live coverage over on CNN

I’m watching it right now. My god, look at that crowd! I imagine Merkel must be feeling as jittery as a kitten seeing this unfold.

P.S. Looking at the flags being waved in the crowd, I can spot a Turkish flag among them. 🙂
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1732 ·
Good grief...

It’s up to the Germans to sort this mess out—I don't have any say in the matter anyway.

Anyway, if I did have a vote, I’d hand it over to my dog before giving it to her—he’d certainly do less damage with it...☕
Kate Harris50 Kate Harris50 Member
28 messages
joined Feb 2018
#1733 ·
Some kind of fanatic is out there waving a Nazi "Gott mit uns" flag. 👎
Nicole Barrett76 Nicole Barrett76 Regular
515 messages
joined Sep 2009
#1734 ·
Paul Thomas46 said:But haven't they already reached their breaking point? 😕

What he meant was that a massive conflict is going to erupt there, one far more devastating than what we are currently witnessing in Syria.
Sophia Ramos5 Sophia Ramos5 Active Member
121 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1735 ·
News via CNN

Graphic News just released reports on potential new routes toward Germany. This comes after the shutdown of the usual southern corridors caused total chaos and unrest among migrants still pouring into Greece.

http://www.cnn.com/news/refugees...poland-464827

Citing Graphic News.
https://www.graphicnews.org/pages/en/34038/

Is this just someone messing around with maps and calling it news? Or are these actual instructions for migrants?
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1736 ·
Greece keeps letting everyone walk right through their borders—and then they have the nerve to lecture us about "humanity" and "solidarity" and all that EU nonsense.

😕

Since they’re the ones opening the doors themselves, why should anyone else give a damn? They fell, they failed... it's on them.
But no, they try to spin it like this is some massive crisis affecting the entire continent.

They have an army and a police force at their disposal. Once they joined Schengen, they were handed equipment and everything else needed to monitor those damn borders. HANDED. Someone (US taxpayers) paid for every single piece of gear specifically to watch and protect the EU border.
And yet, they aren't doing a thing. They're breaking every agreement and regulation on the books.
Now suddenly it's everyone else's problem because they won't do the job they were actually equipped to do. If they want to handle it, fine—but let them deal with their own mess...
Dennis Hall41 Dennis Hall41 Active Member
55 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1737 ·
Just read this depressing piece in the New York Times—honestly, it’s gut-wrenching (and my heart can barely take it) along with everything else. And that rhetorical question in the headline?

Beautiful. We really are running the show. 🤦
Paul Thomas46 Paul Thomas46 Active Member
101 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1738 ·
Dennis Hall41 said:Just read this depressing piece in the New York Times—honestly, it’s gut-wrenching (and my heart can barely take it) along with everything else. And that rhetorical question in the headline?

Beautiful. We really are running the show. 🤦

Well, damn—you could have just shared the link then... 😁
Betty Allen15 Betty Allen15 Newcomer
6 messages
joined May 2013
#1739 ·
If this were the absolute last group of migrants we ever had to process, honestly, I wouldn’t be losing any sleep over it. But let's be real—it's never just one group, is it? It’s one wave after another, an endless loop, and I’m genuinely worried there won't be an end in sight. At some point, someone needs to actually step up, draw a line in the sand, and say "enough." We need to decide on a hard cap for how many people America can realistically take in, and once we hit that number, the door stays shut.
Dennis Hall41 Dennis Hall41 Active Member
55 messages
joined Jan 2018
#1740 ·
Paul Thomas46 said:Well, damn—you could have just shared the link then... 😁

Not sure if linking works on mobile—I'm running out of time here, and, uh, I'm still young.😒

Anyway, reading is a total waste of time—the title asks if they're opening a new route.

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