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When is "being polite" just too much?

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Jack Smith5 Jack Smith5 Active Member
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#81 ·
Exactly.
When you're dealing with someone and they’re making you feel like garbage, do you still force yourself to be polite?
Or do you just lose your cool, have a meltdown, or simply start ghosting people?

It’s completely human to snap at someone when you're pissed off.
Or to drag everyone else down into the gutter when you're feeling low.

So, are you telling me you don't actually do that?
Brenda Alvarez3 Brenda Alvarez3 Newcomer
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#82 ·
I don't mind it if someone is genuinely kind—if they just radiate this natural warmth and politeness. But if I get the feeling it's forced or artificial, like they're struggling to play a part, I tend to distance myself...
There are plenty of other actors out there we can watch instead. 😂
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#83 ·
Sure, people like that are few and far between. But honestly, the real question is how they handle things when they actually lose their cool and get seriously pissed off?
Matthew Adams4 Matthew Adams4 Member
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#84 ·
Sean Cruz said:So, what? You're always polite and smiling, and never once sad or angry?

Honestly, I rarely get sad or angry—maybe a couple times a month tops. And even then, I try my best not to take it out on people who didn't do anything wrong. I save my attitude for the people actually causing the drama, whenever I can help it. Besides, feeling crappy doesn't stop me from being polite, unless it's to the exact person I'm annoyed with.

Reading through these threads, it feels like you guys think it's abnormal if you don't have something making you miserable every single day. 😢
feralranger feralranger Regular
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#85 ·
Matthew Adams4 said:Honestly, I rarely get sad or angry—maybe a couple times a month tops. And even then, I try my best not to take it out on people who didn't do anything wrong. I save my attitude for the people actually causing the drama, whenever I can help it. Besides, feeling crappy doesn't stop me from being polite, unless it's to the exact person I'm annoyed with.

Reading through these threads, it feels like you guys think it's abnormal if you don't have something making you miserable every single day. 😢

If we define normality simply by what the masses do or how the crowd behaves, then "being normal" isn't necessarily a virtue in many contexts. It is, rather, a secondary characteristic...

An internal state that serves as a prerequisite for such a thing feels quite foreign to me... though I must admit, I have a profound appreciation for a spontaneous smile, and I find people prone to them quite endearing. My tennis partner is exactly that kind of person... and a portion of her effortless cheerfulness is, shall we say, "contagious"... (though I might argue that I find it easier to connect with slightly more "brooding" personalities...) There are moments when I find myself "envying" that quality in her—not that I would ever wish to dampen her spirits, mind you, but rather that I wish I possessed a fragment of that temperament myself. Perhaps not perpetually, but occasionally.

Artificial, calculated, or duplicitous smiles are, predictably, utterly repulsive to me...

Incidentally, genuine smiles can be distinguished from their fake counterparts by the specific facial muscles engaged during the expression.

human Body & Mind - Spot The Fak smiliti Quote : Soul Sister

Sean Cruz said:So, what? You're always polite and smiling, and never once sad or angry?

Are you skeptical?

It is unlikely that anyone exists who is literally, perpetually, in that state, but there are certainly those for whom it is their predominant "nature"...

I believe I have already shared this link with you once, but here it is again — Smile. 🙂
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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#86 ·
Matthew Adams4 said:Honestly, I rarely get sad or angry—maybe a couple times a month tops. And even then, I try my best not to take it out on people who didn't do anything wrong. I save my attitude for the people actually causing the drama, whenever I can help it. Besides, feeling crappy doesn't stop me from being polite, unless it's to the exact person I'm annoyed with.

Reading through these threads, it feels like you guys think it's abnormal if you don't have something making you miserable every single day. 😢

You claim that being kind and smiling is your "normal" state and that you aren't acting, yet you just admitted that you have to work at not showing your bad moods (which means you're masking what you feel, which is essentially acting).
Reading these posts makes it seem like someone isn't functioning normally unless they have something to be pissed off or upset about every single day. 😢

Where did I ever say that? I asked if it had ever happened, not if it happened every single day.
feralranger said:If we define normality simply by what the masses do or how the crowd behaves, then "being normal" isn't necessarily a virtue in many contexts. It is, rather, a secondary characteristic...

An internal state that serves as a prerequisite for such a thing feels quite foreign to me... though I must admit, I have a profound appreciation for a spontaneous smile, and I find people prone to them quite endearing. My tennis partner is exactly that kind of person... and a portion of her effortless cheerfulness is, shall we say, "contagious"... (though I might argue that I find it easier to connect with slightly more "brooding" personalities...) There are moments when I find myself "envying" that quality in her—not that I would ever wish to dampen her spirits, mind you, but rather that I wish I possessed a fragment of that temperament myself. Perhaps not perpetually, but occasionally.

Artificial, calculated, or duplicitous smiles are, predictably, utterly repulsive to me...

Incidentally, genuine smiles can be distinguished from their fake counterparts by the specific facial muscles engaged during the expression.

human Body & Mind - Spot The Fak smiliti Quote : Soul Sister

Are you skeptical?

It is unlikely that anyone exists who is literally, perpetually, in that state, but there are certainly those for whom it is their predominant "nature"...

I believe I have already shared this link with you once, but here it is again — Smile. 🙂

Of course I am. Someone who is always smiling and isn't faking it—meaning they truly feel as happy as they look—is either completely detached, superficial, or on medication.

There probably aren't people who are literally like that all the time, but there are those who are predominantly that way; it's just their 'nature'...

I think I already sent you this link once, but here: Smile. 🙂

Yes, thanks. 🙂

This thread is about aggressive and excessively polite people who cross the line of what's considered "standard politeness" (the OP confirmed that too).

As for myself, I'd call myself "moderately polite." No one has ever described me as aggressive, but they haven't seen me as the opposite either—just "reserved." I smile often, but I'll be honest: my true internal state feels more like the lyrics to this song...
feralranger feralranger Regular
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#87 ·
Sean Cruz said:You claim that being kind and smiling is your "normal" state and that you aren't acting, yet you just admitted that you have to work at not showing your bad moods (which means you're masking what you feel, which is essentially acting).
Reading these posts makes it seem like someone isn't functioning normally unless they have something to be pissed off or upset about every single day. 😢

Where did I ever say that? I asked if it had ever happened, not if it happened every single day.

Of course I am. Someone who is always smiling and isn't faking it—meaning they truly feel as happy as they look—is either completely detached, superficial, or on medication.

There probably aren't people who are literally like that all the time, but there are those who are predominantly that way; it's just their 'nature'...

I think I already sent you this link once, but here: Smile. 🙂

Yes, thanks. 🙂

This thread is about aggressive and excessively polite people who cross the line of what's considered "standard politeness" (the OP confirmed that too).

As for myself, I'd call myself "moderately polite." No one has ever described me as aggressive, but they haven't seen me as the opposite either—just "reserved." I smile often, but I'll be honest: my true internal state feels more like the lyrics to this song...

This might also stem from a simple breakdown in communication, or rather, a misunderstanding. For instance, if I were discussing that friend of mine I mentioned earlier during a casual chat, I might describe her as being 'always cheerful,' without expecting anyone to interpret that 'always' with such grueling literalism.

Naturally, if we were engaged in a heavy, serious discussion involving a deep dive into psychological states, I certainly wouldn't be quite so reckless with a word like 'always.'

Sean Cruz said:You claim that being kind and smiling is your "normal" state and that you aren't acting, yet you just admitted that you have to work at not showing your bad moods (which means you're masking what you feel, which is essentially acting).
Reading these posts makes it seem like someone isn't functioning normally unless they have something to be pissed off or upset about every single day. 😢

Where did I ever say that? I asked if it had ever happened, not if it happened every single day.

Of course I am. Someone who is always smiling and isn't faking it—meaning they truly feel as happy as they look—is either completely detached, superficial, or on medication.

There probably aren't people who are literally like that all the time, but there are those who are predominantly that way; it's just their 'nature'...

I think I already sent you this link once, but here: Smile. 🙂

Yes, thanks. 🙂

This thread is about aggressive and excessively polite people who cross the line of what's considered "standard politeness" (the OP confirmed that too).

As for myself, I'd call myself "moderately polite." No one has ever described me as aggressive, but they haven't seen me as the opposite either—just "reserved." I smile often, but I'll be honest: my true internal state feels more like the lyrics to this song...

And... was my smile 'contagious'?

Sean Cruz said:You claim that being kind and smiling is your "normal" state and that you aren't acting, yet you just admitted that you have to work at not showing your bad moods (which means you're masking what you feel, which is essentially acting).
Reading these posts makes it seem like someone isn't functioning normally unless they have something to be pissed off or upset about every single day. 😢

Where did I ever say that? I asked if it had ever happened, not if it happened every single day.

Of course I am. Someone who is always smiling and isn't faking it—meaning they truly feel as happy as they look—is either completely detached, superficial, or on medication.

There probably aren't people who are literally like that all the time, but there are those who are predominantly that way; it's just their 'nature'...

I think I already sent you this link once, but here: Smile. 🙂

Yes, thanks. 🙂

This thread is about aggressive and excessively polite people who cross the line of what's considered "standard politeness" (the OP confirmed that too).

As for myself, I'd call myself "moderately polite." No one has ever described me as aggressive, but they haven't seen me as the opposite either—just "reserved." I smile often, but I'll be honest: my true internal state feels more like the lyrics to this song...

...masks, yes... it could be about whether using them is (un)justified...

Have you finished that test regarding fake versus genuine smiles?
What did you end up getting? (I managed to trip myself up twice, which means I correctly identified an authentic versus a forced smile about 90% of the time...)
Matthew Adams4 Matthew Adams4 Member
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#88 ·
Nah. There’s a massive difference between suppressing how you feel and just taking it out on everyone in sight because you're having a moment. People can tell when I'm feeling down, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be a jerk to them.
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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#89 ·
feralranger said:This might also stem from a simple breakdown in communication, or rather, a misunderstanding. For instance, if I were discussing that friend of mine I mentioned earlier during a casual chat, I might describe her as being 'always cheerful,' without expecting anyone to interpret that 'always' with such grueling literalism.

Naturally, if we were engaged in a heavy, serious discussion involving a deep dive into psychological states, I certainly wouldn't be quite so reckless with a word like 'always.'

And... was my smile 'contagious'?

...masks, yes... it could be about whether using them is (un)justified...

Have you finished that test regarding fake versus genuine smiles?
What did you end up getting? (I managed to trip myself up twice, which means I correctly identified an authentic versus a forced smile about 90% of the time...)

That's possible, but in my experience, people who are excessively polite and smiley usually have an ulterior motive. Like I mentioned before, when someone tries to force a sense of "closeness" through forced smiles and friendliness toward a total stranger, I find it incredibly grating. Honestly, I'd rather get hit in the head with a rock.
And... was the smile "contagious"?

Who wouldn't catch it from Bobby? 😍
...masks, yes... one could discuss whether their use is justified or not...

Exactly. To me, using them as a tool to exploit others is completely unacceptable.
Did you finish that test distinguishing fake smiles from real ones?
How did you do? (A couple tripped me up, so I landed at about 90% accuracy in spotting whether they were genuine or fake...)

You're doing much better than I am. 😬 I only got 12 right. 😁🤣
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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#90 ·
Matthew Adams4 said:Nah. There’s a massive difference between suppressing how you feel and just taking it out on everyone in sight because you're having a moment. People can tell when I'm feeling down, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be a jerk to them.

And who even brought up "taking it out on others" in the first place? Is everything just black or white now? Are we really incapable of seeing any nuance here? 🙄
feralranger feralranger Regular
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#91 ·
Sean Cruz said:That's possible, but in my experience, people who are excessively polite and smiley usually have an ulterior motive. Like I mentioned before, when someone tries to force a sense of "closeness" through forced smiles and friendliness toward a total stranger, I find it incredibly grating. Honestly, I'd rather get hit in the head with a rock.
And... was the smile "contagious"?

Who wouldn't catch it from Bobby? 😍
...masks, yes... one could discuss whether their use is justified or not...

Exactly. To me, using them as a tool to exploit others is completely unacceptable.
Did you finish that test distinguishing fake smiles from real ones?
How did you do? (A couple tripped me up, so I landed at about 90% accuracy in spotting whether they were genuine or fake...)

You're doing much better than I am. 😬 I only got 12 right. 😁🤣

One ought to maintain direct eye contact, perhaps observing the mouth only through one's peripheral vision... the musculature surrounding the eyes reacts instinctively to true emotion, whereas a forced smile is merely a localized movement of the lips...

Naturally, you cannot simply retake the assessment now that the correct and incorrect answers have already lodged themselves in your memory... however, you might find it useful to observe whether you notice those subtle cues...
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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#92 ·
feralranger said:One ought to maintain direct eye contact, perhaps observing the mouth only through one's peripheral vision... the musculature surrounding the eyes reacts instinctively to true emotion, whereas a forced smile is merely a localized movement of the lips...

Naturally, you cannot simply retake the assessment now that the correct and incorrect answers have already lodged themselves in your memory... however, you might find it useful to observe whether you notice those subtle cues...

I know, I think my focus is just slipping right now. In my actual day job, I’m actually quite good at "reading" nonverbal cues, regardless of how much someone smiles or acts polite. Honestly, I'm better at it than most...
Matthew Adams4 Matthew Adams4 Member
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#93 ·
To me, being rude is just spreading bad vibes everywhere you go. It’s exhausting.
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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#94 ·
People keep hyperventilating over extremes here, even though the author made it clear she wasn't questioning the basic tenets of common decency and polite behavior.
Matthew Adams4 Matthew Adams4 Member
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#95 ·
I’m sticking to my guns on this one: you can't really be "overly" polite. You either have manners or you don't.
Carl Rivera43 Carl Rivera43 Veteran
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#96 ·
Matthew Adams4 said:I’m sticking to my guns on this one: you can't really be "overly" polite. You either have manners or you don't.

Hey, you're totally entitled to your opinion! But honestly? I think most people out there are going to disagree with you on that one.
Sean Cruz Sean Cruz Regular
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#97 ·
Matthew Adams4 said:I’m sticking to my guns on this one: you can't really be "overly" polite. You either have manners or you don't.

That’s exactly what I was getting at earlier—you're looking at this in strictly black and white.
goldenmaker21 goldenmaker21 Newcomer
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#98 ·
Jerry Ramos90 said:I know someone who absolutely can't stand people who are overly polite. It’s especially bad when they just met them or are just having a brief interaction. Whenever someone is being way too nice or performatively courteous—like a server at a local diner, for example—it totally gets under her skin. That excessive warmth, being super approachable, or just trying too hard to please everyone. People who are just wide open and overly friendly... man. She stays far away from that. 😠
Personally, I'm the opposite. I always fall for those types of people who are immediately open and easy to talk to.
I honestly can't wrap my head around why she has this specific repulsion toward them, though it's pretty interesting since she's actually really good at reading people. (Whereas I'm terrible at it.)
What do you guys think is actually going on behind all that forced politeness? What are their motives? 🤔 What kind of negative associations might someone like her have with that kind of personality? 🤷 And does it irritate you when people are super friendly right off the bat? Or do you find it attractive?

Personally, I've always gravitated toward those people; most of them ended up becoming solid friends I can actually rely on. They seem like the most sincere ones because they aren't hiding anything.
People who are faking it or acting "fake" usually reveal themselves pretty quickly once you hang out a few times and the politeness wears off.
Cold, reserved people always turn me off, and I tend to avoid them. It's hard to build any kind of connection with someone who can't relax around me from the start; if we can't get past basic pleasantries, what's the point?
Jeffrey Fisher5 Jeffrey Fisher5 Member
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#99 ·
goldenmaker21 said:Personally, I've always gravitated toward those people; most of them ended up becoming solid friends I can actually rely on. They seem like the most sincere ones because they aren't hiding anything.
People who are faking it or acting "fake" usually reveal themselves pretty quickly once you hang out a few times and the politeness wears off.
Cold, reserved people always turn me off, and I tend to avoid them. It's hard to build any kind of connection with someone who can't relax around me from the start; if we can't get past basic pleasantries, what's the point?

The truth is, there isn't a single person—barring those with significant cognitive impairments—who hides absolutely nothing.
Both you and I, for one, certainly keep things tucked away...😉
In many ways, excessive politeness is its own kind of performance—a way of concealing one's true self.
Behind that kind of behavior, there is almost always an underlying motive, and rarely is it a positive one.
It can be incredibly difficult to distinguish genuine warmth from forced courtesy, though I suspect we all possess a sort of internal alarm system that warns us when something feels off.
There is a distinction, of course, between professional decorum and that unnecessary, over-the-top politeness one encounters in daily life when people display it without any practical reason.
This shouldn't be confused with subservience—that groveling, sycophantic attitude that was historically more common among the lower classes in America leading up to WWII. That whole "Yes, master..." dynamic.
Eventually, through the sheer weight of experience, most of us learn to tell the difference between openness, true kindness, and mere social niceties.
For me—given my long history of navigating various social circles—excessive politeness acts as a red flag, and it is one I find it wise not to ignore.
goldenmaker21 goldenmaker21 Newcomer
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#100 ·
I’ll adjust my approach. I usually give the benefit of the doubt to people who seem overly polite—I'll test them out first to see who they actually are. As for the cold ones? They’re off the list from day one.

Another thing: you have to distinguish between people just doing their jobs and those who are genuinely kind when you meet them spontaneously.
But what does "overly polite" even mean?
Is it when someone insists on picking up the tab, or when they shower you with compliments without even knowing you?
And I’m talking about the same gender here.
I have a friend who is incredibly sweet and sensitive. For a while, I actually wondered if she was being fake. But that friendship taught me that some people are just wired that way—they're kindhearted and empathetic. Sometimes you just click with someone instantly. It's not like that with everyone.
When we met, she bought my coffee and stepped in to help me with a bunch of random things I needed that day. I didn't ask; she just did it because she had the time. Should I have assumed she wanted something? That it was an act?
At first, maybe. But I eventually realized we just hit it off. She’s just a genuine person who loves helping people she senses are good souls.

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