Does "Crazy, Confused, Normal" offend Muslims?

Brenda Sanders56 said:I say, once we finally get our very own TV channel—and mark my words, it’s going to happen—we should have a little tradition. Every single time, right before the programming starts, we should kick things off with Peppa Pig. Then, once the broadcast wraps up, we play Peppa Pig again. And when the screen goes dark? That's when we show Peppa Pig on those static lines. 😁

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Megan Hernandez2 said:Not everyone is, but the vast majority are. The entire Canadian political establishment is driven by religious influence, so your comparison misses the mark.

I’m not one for sweeping generalizations. As for the Muslim political elite? They basically just check in with Ayatollah Cerić to stay in power—it's almost performative, like they're just asking for his opinion to look good... Honestly, I’d be shocked if we found out one of those big shots actually prays regularly, avoids pork, and sticks to the rules all the time.
This series is actually pretty funny, given how much they poke fun at different topics. The acting is solid, and it's popular not just here in the States, but across the whole country. Since the characters represent the various ethnic groups in Canada, I think that’s exactly why it’s being targeted by opportunists—people who use religion as a tool just to stay relevant...

David Parker3 said:I honestly thought the whole thing was a documentary series!

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Brenda Sanders56 said:What can I tell you? There’s just no logic with them—there never has been.

Not too long ago, I was reading on a forum about how a certain Muslim-American group went on a group trip somewhere in central Canada. Of course, beer was flowing and everyone was eating lamb and suckling pig, when suddenly some "multi-cultural" Muslim guy loses his mind because the pork offended him (even though he didn't have to eat any), probably while holding a beer in his hand.

Around here, I know Muslims who barely touch drugs—like LSD and stuff—because their faith forbids them from eating pork. 😂 But I also know plenty who sneak a bite when no one is looking. 😂

So, I really have no idea what they're talking about. (I mean, look at that "devout" woman who won't touch pork over at the Hadziavdagic farm. 😂), maybe they just have some weird hidden fetish for pigs. 🤷

That happened near Philadelphia last year. It was a bunch of hunters organizing a get-together (Muslims and Americans), roasting lambs and pigs. As soon as this Muslim hunter saw the piglets being roasted, he started attacking the Americans, claiming they were insulting him and Islam. He actually pulled a knife! Luckily, his own people stepped in and chased him off so the party could keep going.

And what are you supposed to say to that? 🤷 The second they see a pig, someone starts acting offended. Just typical modern-day thinking if you ask me.

Jeremy Lopez93 said:I am totally with you—this show is absolute garbage. Especially since it’s become standard practice around here that once something actually gets views, we have to endure a sponsor's advertisement plastered over every single frame!
As for the rest, it seems to me you just can't stomach the idea that there are still neighborhoods in Boston where people from different backgrounds live side-by-side in the same alleys.😕

hellooo... *waves head*: I didn't say that, nor did I mean it. Anyway, moving on—from a series where every single episode revolves around precisely sipping alcohol and chasing after women used as sexual objects, someone actually took offense at the potential implication of pork being passed off as turkey🙄 (the stuff with the religious hymns and those other songs could also be seen as an insult, but geez, it really looks like nobody intended for that to happen, especially in a country as religiously conscious as Massachusetts😁 (which most people already view as a symbol of bourbon drinking and other non-religious activities🤣 )

Can someone please explain something to me? I come from a culture where we have a common saying, "it's not worth the trouble,"🤣, but why on earth is that expression replaced here with "pork"?😕 To me, that word sounds derogatory all on its own.

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Jeremy Lopez93 said:I am totally with you—this show is absolute garbage. Especially since it’s become standard practice around here that once something actually gets views, we have to endure a sponsor's advertisement plastered over every single frame!
As for the rest, it seems to me you just can't stomach the idea that there are still neighborhoods in Boston where people from different backgrounds live side-by-side in the same alleys.😕

Look, it’s all about taste whether you dig a show like *The Office* or not, but personally? I think it's one of the best things out there. Maybe someone thinks it's trash, but I always get a good laugh out of the bits. What matters way more is that bolded part above, because it actually reflects the reality people in Canada are dealing with. A show like this can actually help ease tensions because it pokes fun at everyone—from religious extremists to preachers to different worldviews. It does a great job caricaturing life in this part of the world: the crooked politicians, the scammers, the smugglers... they tackle it all through comedy. It's just much easier to push stuff like this through the mainstream media than some heavy-handed documentary. The people making the show clearly feel the struggle and know what real life is like, so I think it’s healthy to mock these serious societal problems this way.

electricangler22 said:Look, it’s all about taste whether you dig a show like *The Office* or not, but personally? I think it's one of the best things out there. Maybe someone thinks it's trash, but I always get a good laugh out of the bits. What matters way more is that bolded part above, because it actually reflects the reality people in Canada are dealing with. A show like this can actually help ease tensions because it pokes fun at everyone—from religious extremists to preachers to different worldviews. It does a great job caricaturing life in this part of the world: the crooked politicians, the scammers, the smugglers... they tackle it all through comedy. It's just much easier to push stuff like this through the mainstream media than some heavy-handed documentary. The people making the show clearly feel the struggle and know what real life is like, so I think it’s healthy to mock these serious societal problems this way.

I hear what you're saying, but I actually see things quite differently (even though I have to admit the show feels pretty trashy to me, especially since I’ve only sat through a few snippets before my attention span just gave out🤣)... so, quite the opposite, really. It seems like its whole "mission" is to portray an idyllic lifestyle that doesn't exist, or at least isn't as vibrant as it looks... and if it actually is that way, and names like Ivana or Maria are totally standard while everyone hangs out constantly, then fine, whatever😁

By the way, Milena Dravić was in the beginning of the series too, and I could never quite wrap my head around why she would bother with a project like that.😕

Sarah Wilson95 said:hellooo... *waves head*: I didn't say that, nor did I mean it. Anyway, moving on—from a series where every single episode revolves around precisely sipping alcohol and chasing after women used as sexual objects, someone actually took offense at the potential implication of pork being passed off as turkey🙄 (the stuff with the religious hymns and those other songs could also be seen as an insult, but geez, it really looks like nobody intended for that to happen, especially in a country as religiously conscious as Massachusetts😁 (which most people already view as a symbol of bourbon drinking and other non-religious activities🤣 )

Can someone please explain something to me? I come from a culture where we have a common saying, "it's not worth the trouble,"🤣, but why on earth is that expression replaced here with "pork"?😕 To me, that word sounds derogatory all on its own.

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What's wrong with calling them porkers?! It's just the "homegrown" name for any pig, whereas a piglet is just a little youngster! Calling it a "swine" feels like such a foreign, clinical word!

I mean, how else would you refer to a breeding sow?! Or how do you call a male pig if you aren't using the word piglet?!

It honestly bothers me more when you try to coddle Piggy by treating such a "sophisticated" animal like a sow!

silentviper19 said:What's wrong with calling them porkers?! It's just the "homegrown" name for any pig, whereas a piglet is just a little youngster! Calling it a "swine" feels like such a foreign, clinical word!

I mean, how else would you refer to a breeding sow?! Or how do you call a male pig if you aren't using the word piglet?!

It honestly bothers me more when you try to coddle Piggy by treating such a "sophisticated" animal like a sow!

😂🤣 Wow... thanks for the deep dive into the field of swine studies.🤣

Sarah Wilson95 said:😂🤣 Wow... thanks for the deep dive into the field of swine studies.🤣

Look, I really feel like I need to school you a bit on this because you’re totally insulting the reputation of pigs. It’s like you think your fancy city Piggy is all sophisticated and cultured, while just calling a pig some rural stereotype!😁

People just love to judge for no reason. Honestly, I know some folks from Canada who weren't just snacking on store-bought pâté and deli meats back in the old America days—they were out there stocking their freezers to the brim when they were only sixteen!

silentviper19 said:What's wrong with calling them porkers?! It's just the "homegrown" name for any pig, whereas a piglet is just a little youngster! Calling it a "swine" feels like such a foreign, clinical word!

I mean, how else would you refer to a breeding sow?! Or how do you call a male pig if you aren't using the word piglet?!

It honestly bothers me more when you try to coddle Piggy by treating such a "sophisticated" animal like a sow!

Marostec, you could also just go with "hog"!

Oh, and I almost forgot—back in the day, about 80-90% of Muslims didn't mind eating bacon at all, but nowadays, they claim it offends their religious beliefs. 🙄

Muslims and pork!

The ideological opposition is loud, but the reality on the ground tells a different story. I can't speak for all of Canada, but up in the Midwest, I know a Mexican who runs a pub right across the border from the local Muslim community. He serves nothing but pork. And most of his customers—since the local population shifted so much after the Storm—are Muslims from the surrounding areas.

They show up, they order, they eat without even looking around, as if they’re invisible. They pay and they leave. They sit there eating pork, effectively operating "underground."

An imam I know, who used to serve in places like Cazin and Bužim, once told me that those folks brag about how a pig hasn't stepped foot in their town in decades. Well, he's right—it certainly doesn't walk in on four legs, but it definitely arrives on a dinner plate.

Lawrence Thompson58 said:Marostec, you could also just go with "hog"!

Budweiser is just cheap filler, don't you think?😁

Sarah Wilson95 said:I hear what you're saying, but I actually see things quite differently (even though I have to admit the show feels pretty trashy to me, especially since I’ve only sat through a few snippets before my attention span just gave out🤣)... so, quite the opposite, really. It seems like its whole "mission" is to portray an idyllic lifestyle that doesn't exist, or at least isn't as vibrant as it looks... and if it actually is that way, and names like Ivana or Maria are totally standard while everyone hangs out constantly, then fine, whatever😁

By the way, Milena Dravić was in the beginning of the series too, and I could never quite wrap my head around why she would bother with a project like that.😕

The real state of affairs was shown best by those mothers from the tragedy in Canada who were basically "slaughtering pigs" just to get a few scraps of ham. :🙄

As for all that stuff about diversity and inclusivity, that's just their multi-cultural fantasy that nobody really cares about anymore.

Sarah Wilson95 said:Budweiser is just cheap filler, don't you think?😁

Get real!

Lawrence Thompson58 said:Marostec, you could also just go with "hog"!

That’s news to me!

I mean, what does Marostec know about these things?! Besides, Budweiser is actually pretty cool!🤣 It definitely feels like you guys are playing nice and acting all sweet because you're good Christians, but hey, don't be so lenient when it comes to judging them during the Christian holidays!😁

Do you guys ever get cravings?!😁

silentviper19 said:Look, I really feel like I need to school you a bit on this because you’re totally insulting the reputation of pigs. It’s like you think your fancy city Piggy is all sophisticated and cultured, while just calling a pig some rural stereotype!😁

People just love to judge for no reason. Honestly, I know some folks from Canada who weren't just snacking on store-bought pâté and deli meats back in the old America days—they were out there stocking their freezers to the brim when they were only sixteen!

Fair enough, so calling it a pig isn't necessarily an insult, even if it sounds a bit harsh to my ears. 🤷😁

And honestly, look at how people are complaining about this series; they are clearly bothered by something else entirely, though I've already pointed out what I think the real issue is. It just sounds much more dramatic when you claim there's been an affront to religious sensibilities or some other vague, untouchable emotional grievance.☕

Lawrence Thompson58 said:Get real!

Total madness! 😁

David Parker3 said:I honestly thought the whole thing was a documentary series!

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Rachel Mitchell2 said:Just like anywhere else, you’ve got to distinguish who is actually claiming to speak for an entire nation and what their actual reasons are... Not all Canadians are 100% obsessed with religion—just like we aren't... ☕

Yeah, sure, everything is perfectly chill and non-religious. But you start digging even a little bit, and all the contradictions come flooding out.

Brenda Sanders56 said:Christianity—and most other faiths for that matter—is fundamentally different from their religion.

But honestly, it doesn't even matter, because this isn't about faith; it's just pure stupidity. Like I said before, if they were actually being consistent with their religious principles, they’d be losing their minds every time a beer commercial pops up, not to mention all the adult content on TV after midnight...

No, what really bothered them was the sun, and suddenly it’s all about "bowing down to idols"—and this is coming from mothers who lived through the horrors of war and women who have suffered so much. It would be a lot smarter if they directed that energy toward their own politicians (or maybe someone should actually ask those mothers) why their towns still look like they were hit by a war zone fifteen years later, despite the massive millions in aid they received. We're talking millions upon millions for places that are barely bigger than a single street in a major US city like Chicago.

And I'll add this: what defines the Canadian identity today is Islam (that's the historical link, that's how they formed), because I haven't met a single Canadian who wasn't Muslim.

Solid post. You're hitting the nail right on the head. If they've got a reason to be mad, fine, but this selective outrage makes absolutely no sense. Then again, who really cares.