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quietranger14 quietranger14 MemberOP
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#81 ·
Hey everyone!
It’s been a minute—I’ve basically been off the grid just trying to find some peace and quiet away from everyone else... and honestly, it did me a world of good. I finally sat down and caught up on all the posts by 😍 Kyle Watson8. Feeling a lot more centered and positive now.

So, I finally made a decision: tomorrow, I’m heading to an appointment with a specialist from a local eating disorder foundation. Everything still feels like a bit of a mess, but you have to start somewhere—and talking to someone actually smarter than me seems like a solid first step. It’s officially time to go to war against my own self-sabotage—the low self-esteem, the binge eating, the OCD, and God knows what else.

Wish me luck!🙂
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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#82 ·
quietranger14, I haven't had the chance to dive deep into this entire thread yet, but I think the most important thing for you right now—especially after what you went through—is not losing faith in people, particularly men. Are you seeing anyone? How much do you still trust people?
Usually, when someone goes through something this horrific, they don't just lose their self-confidence; they start looking for ways to take it out on others. They start thinking everyone is trash or that all men are complete jerks, and so on and so forth. I really hope that isn't the case with you. Because honestly, the three worst things that can happen are losing faith in yourself, losing faith that good people actually exist, and losing faith in love.
The idea that you are worth any less, or feeling some kind of way about your value, is total nonsense, and you need to realize that first and foremost.
Once you find that one person who truly loves you for who you are, gives you their full attention, opens up their heart, and shows you just how unique you really are, all those complexes and frustrations stemming from what happened will finally fade away.
quietranger14 quietranger14 MemberOP
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#83 ·
Sarah Wood8 said:quietranger14, I haven't had the chance to dive deep into this entire thread yet, but I think the most important thing for you right now—especially after what you went through—is not losing faith in people, particularly men. Are you seeing anyone? How much do you still trust people?
Usually, when someone goes through something this horrific, they don't just lose their self-confidence; they start looking for ways to take it out on others. They start thinking everyone is trash or that all men are complete jerks, and so on and so forth. I really hope that isn't the case with you. Because honestly, the three worst things that can happen are losing faith in yourself, losing faith that good people actually exist, and losing faith in love.
The idea that you are worth any less, or feeling some kind of way about your value, is total nonsense, and you need to realize that first and foremost.
Once you find that one person who truly loves you for who you are, gives you their full attention, opens up their heart, and shows you just how unique you really are, all those complexes and frustrations stemming from what happened will finally fade away.

Faith in humanity is slowly trickling back, though it takes a massive amount of effort before I let anyone get close. I have a boyfriend—been together over two years now—and he’s been the one who worked the hardest to earn my trust. Not gonna lie, it wasn't an easy climb for him.

Sarah Wood8 said:quietranger14, I haven't had the chance to dive deep into this entire thread yet, but I think the most important thing for you right now—especially after what you went through—is not losing faith in people, particularly men. Are you seeing anyone? How much do you still trust people?
Usually, when someone goes through something this horrific, they don't just lose their self-confidence; they start looking for ways to take it out on others. They start thinking everyone is trash or that all men are complete jerks, and so on and so forth. I really hope that isn't the case with you. Because honestly, the three worst things that can happen are losing faith in yourself, losing faith that good people actually exist, and losing faith in love.
The idea that you are worth any less, or feeling some kind of way about your value, is total nonsense, and you need to realize that first and foremost.
Once you find that one person who truly loves you for who you are, gives you their full attention, opens up their heart, and shows you just how unique you really are, all those complexes and frustrations stemming from what happened will finally fade away.

Yeah, if it were actually that simple, I'd be cured by now. Seriously. I don't think I could have stumbled upon anyone better than my guy, but he's incredibly patient with me—he puts up with my (unconscious) testing and constantly reminds me how much he cares and how special I am. I'm grateful for that; on the days when I hate myself so much it feels unhealthy, he's the reason I actually leave the house. But my frustrations, fears, and whatever else... they haven't vanished yet. Today is just the day I'm finally taking the first step. Me proud on myself! 🙂
quietranger14 quietranger14 MemberOP
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#84 ·
But hey, thanks for the good vibes, Sarah Wood8 😘
William Scott18 William Scott18 Newcomer
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#85 ·
quietranger14, I’m so sorry for everything you’re going through right now...

I haven't dealt with things quite as heavy as yours, but I was bullied back in middle school. I wasn't even short or weak, they just targeted me because they knew I wouldn't fight back...

By freshman year of high school, things got so dark that I almost dropped out. I fell into a deep clinical depression and even attempted suicide. Ironically, just when the bullying finally stopped, I hit rock bottom...

Now I’m a college freshman. I managed to pull myself out of that hole, met some people, and started getting my life together, but I still deal with so many issues I can't seem to fix...

Throughout high school, I spent all my time watching everyone else hooking up and being affectionate. It felt like being thirsty in a desert while someone else pours water out right in front of you...
I've realized that saying "love will come" is pretty hollow. I'm 19 now, and it feels like love only finds the people who are already well-connected or just incredibly lucky...

You have a boyfriend, which is great, but for me, I feel like I'll never find a girlfriend. Honestly, I feel like I might end it all sooner or later... it's hard to live knowing that...

I just keep thinking everything would've been different if that bullying hadn't happened...
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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#86 ·
William Scott18 said:quietranger14, I’m so sorry for everything you’re going through right now...

I haven't dealt with things quite as heavy as yours, but I was bullied back in middle school. I wasn't even short or weak, they just targeted me because they knew I wouldn't fight back...

By freshman year of high school, things got so dark that I almost dropped out. I fell into a deep clinical depression and even attempted suicide. Ironically, just when the bullying finally stopped, I hit rock bottom...

Now I’m a college freshman. I managed to pull myself out of that hole, met some people, and started getting my life together, but I still deal with so many issues I can't seem to fix...

Throughout high school, I spent all my time watching everyone else hooking up and being affectionate. It felt like being thirsty in a desert while someone else pours water out right in front of you...
I've realized that saying "love will come" is pretty hollow. I'm 19 now, and it feels like love only finds the people who are already well-connected or just incredibly lucky...

You have a boyfriend, which is great, but for me, I feel like I'll never find a girlfriend. Honestly, I feel like I might end it all sooner or later... it's hard to live knowing that...

I just keep thinking everything would've been different if that bullying hadn't happened...


God, William Scott18, just give it a rest already. Anyone who was ever soft, lacked confidence, or was introverted has dealt with some version of school bullying. Honestly, you don't want to know what I went through in high school; you wouldn't believe me. I practically lost all faith in humanity, and that is one thing you absolutely cannot let happen to you.
What's worse is that damn it, YOU allowed those bullies to win! This constant whining and lamenting is the direct result of their actions. Why are you giving them the satisfaction? Did they actually win? Damn the girl who's supposed to be your partner if you've already buried yourself alive. You're building these complexes by staring at other people with girls, thinking it's some big deal? Watching two teenagers flaunt a relationship that won't last longer than a carton of milk? Get a grip! Do you think those bullies won? Do you think I don't deal with consequences? Do you think I haven't spent years paying the price for the mental trauma I endured because I was surrounded by animals? Pull yourself together, man; there is a whole new life waiting for you out there, new people to meet. Trust me, by the time you're 25, you'll be a completely different person—I promise you that. Start making friends at college, both guys and girls, go grab coffee, relax. Don't just stop being negative—stop thinking altogether for a while and just let life carry you. You are the one sentencing yourself, not them, and no matter what anyone on this forum says, you're just stubbornly repeating the same loop so we have no choice but to tell you to "just kill yourself" when you annoy everyone.
You aren't listening to me or anyone else; you only want to hear yourself. Fix yourself, because I know you can. I know you are capable of better than this, and if I know it, there's no reason for you to think otherwise. I can see that you are your own worst enemy. Defeat this version of yourself, and you'll have the world at your fingertips.
William Scott18 William Scott18 Newcomer
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#87 ·
Sarah Wood8 said:God, William Scott18, just give it a rest already. Anyone who was ever soft, lacked confidence, or was introverted has dealt with some version of school bullying. Honestly, you don't want to know what I went through in high school; you wouldn't believe me. I practically lost all faith in humanity, and that is one thing you absolutely cannot let happen to you.
What's worse is that damn it, YOU allowed those bullies to win! This constant whining and lamenting is the direct result of their actions. Why are you giving them the satisfaction? Did they actually win? Damn the girl who's supposed to be your partner if you've already buried yourself alive. You're building these complexes by staring at other people with girls, thinking it's some big deal? Watching two teenagers flaunt a relationship that won't last longer than a carton of milk? Get a grip! Do you think those bullies won? Do you think I don't deal with consequences? Do you think I haven't spent years paying the price for the mental trauma I endured because I was surrounded by animals? Pull yourself together, man; there is a whole new life waiting for you out there, new people to meet. Trust me, by the time you're 25, you'll be a completely different person—I promise you that. Start making friends at college, both guys and girls, go grab coffee, relax. Don't just stop being negative—stop thinking altogether for a while and just let life carry you. You are the one sentencing yourself, not them, and no matter what anyone on this forum says, you're just stubbornly repeating the same loop so we have no choice but to tell you to "just kill yourself" when you annoy everyone.
You aren't listening to me or anyone else; you only want to hear yourself. Fix yourself, because I know you can. I know you are capable of better than this, and if I know it, there's no reason for you to think otherwise. I can see that you are your own worst enemy. Defeat this version of yourself, and you'll have the world at your fingertips.

You've got a point, but... Sometimes, like today, I just want someone to hold me, and I want to hold them too...

Not someday, not maybe one day, but right now... Today. Before noon. Just listen to Smiths-How soon is now...
And honestly, it isn't happening today, tomorrow, or even next month...
Sarah Wood8 Sarah Wood8 Active Member
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#88 ·
William Scott18 said:You've got a point, but... Sometimes, like today, I just want someone to hold me, and I want to hold them too...

Not someday, not maybe one day, but right now... Today. Before noon. Just listen to Smiths-How soon is now...
And honestly, it isn't happening today, tomorrow, or even next month...


And you think I don't feel the same way? You think I haven't been stuck in this same miserable loop of being lovesick at 26? Get a grip, man. Figure out what actually matters in life and start respecting yourself enough to stop begging the universe to hand you something when the timing is clearly all wrong.
William Scott18 William Scott18 Newcomer
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#89 ·
Sarah Wood8 said:And you think I don't feel the same way? You think I haven't been stuck in this same miserable loop of being lovesick at 26? Get a grip, man. Figure out what actually matters in life and start respecting yourself enough to stop begging the universe to hand you something when the timing is clearly all wrong.

Yeah... It’s never the right time... Not at 19, and probably not after... Like things just magically get easier as you age... Everyone else is out there falling in love and living their lives, while I'm stuck with nothing...
As if I'm going to find someone at college... Probably not, since everyone there already has experience by the time they're 18 or 19...

Anyway, I don't want to derail this conversation, it's not about me...
Lawrence Robinson11 Lawrence Robinson11 Member
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#90 ·
William Scott18 said:Yeah... It’s never the right time... Not at 19, and probably not after... Like things just magically get easier as you age... Everyone else is out there falling in love and living their lives, while I'm stuck with nothing...
As if I'm going to find someone at college... Probably not, since everyone there already has experience by the time they're 18 or 19...

Anyway, I don't want to derail this conversation, it's not about me...

Damn, just shut up already. A few months—maybe a year ago—you were insisting you'd absolutely never kiss anyone, and you were talking trash about everyone else who told you to just go for it.

Have you kissed someone? Yes, you have.

So, just zip it.
Richard Moore53 Richard Moore53 Active Member
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#91 ·
quietranger14 said:I’m struggling with low self-esteem—a leftover relic from when my father sexually abused me. I’ve worked through most of the trauma from that era, but this lack of self-worth keeps holding me back in so many ways.
First off, I can't stop comparing myself to everyone else. I’m in college right now and my grades are solid—just like they were in high school and middle school—but I never actually feel proud of those achievements.
Then there’s my body. Even though I have moments where I look in the mirror and think, "Okay, I actually look good," that feeling evaporates within five minutes. Suddenly, I’m just ugly, overweight, and—God knows what else. I’m constantly jumping from one diet to the next, even though I know deep down that no diet on the planet is going to fix how I feel inside.
Third, I struggle to value anything I’ve accomplished. For instance, I survived sexual abuse, lived through a diagnosis of anxious depression, was hospitalized after a suicide attempt, and even saw my abuser behind bars for eight years—yet I still don't give myself credit for surviving all that. Nothing I do feels significant because I tell myself anyone could do it, even though I know in my heart that isn't true.
I don't know... I just really want to learn how to value myself as a person—as someone smart and beautiful (which I do believe during my best moments) and capable. I’d love some help navigating this.
Thanks

I am so incredibly sorry you're going through this. Reading something like this is gut-wrenching; it makes me wonder how anyone stays sane when faced with such evil people. Why are some people so damn cruel? But honestly, I am so glad that you managed to rise above it all despite your self-esteem being shaken—though who wouldn't be? Believe me, you are a beautiful girl. As for the self-esteem part, mine is also quite low; I wasn't sexually abused, but I dealt with psychological abuse, which feels almost the same. Just keep your head up. Fight back and don't let those negative thoughts take over. If you find yourself surrounded by toxic people, change your environment. Smile, find joy... it’s going to be okay.👍 Good luck
Richard Moore53 Richard Moore53 Active Member
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#92 ·
quietranger14 said:Hey everyone!
It’s been a minute—I’ve basically been off the grid just trying to find some peace and quiet away from everyone else... and honestly, it did me a world of good. I finally sat down and caught up on all the posts by 😍 Kyle Watson8. Feeling a lot more centered and positive now.

So, I finally made a decision: tomorrow, I’m heading to an appointment with a specialist from a local eating disorder foundation. Everything still feels like a bit of a mess, but you have to start somewhere—and talking to someone actually smarter than me seems like a solid first step. It’s officially time to go to war against my own self-sabotage—the low self-esteem, the binge eating, the OCD, and God knows what else.

Wish me luck!🙂

We are rooting for you with everything we've got.😘
quietranger14 quietranger14 MemberOP
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#93 ·
William Scott18 said:quietranger14, I’m so sorry for everything you’re going through right now...

I haven't dealt with things quite as heavy as yours, but I was bullied back in middle school. I wasn't even short or weak, they just targeted me because they knew I wouldn't fight back...

By freshman year of high school, things got so dark that I almost dropped out. I fell into a deep clinical depression and even attempted suicide. Ironically, just when the bullying finally stopped, I hit rock bottom...

Now I’m a college freshman. I managed to pull myself out of that hole, met some people, and started getting my life together, but I still deal with so many issues I can't seem to fix...

Throughout high school, I spent all my time watching everyone else hooking up and being affectionate. It felt like being thirsty in a desert while someone else pours water out right in front of you...
I've realized that saying "love will come" is pretty hollow. I'm 19 now, and it feels like love only finds the people who are already well-connected or just incredibly lucky...

You have a boyfriend, which is great, but for me, I feel like I'll never find a girlfriend. Honestly, I feel like I might end it all sooner or later... it's hard to live knowing that...

I just keep thinking everything would've been different if that bullying hadn't happened...

Whoa, hold on a second. imageLet's take a beat and look at the big picture here.
Basically, I was looked down on and physically picked on back in middle school, and by high school, people just hated me or avoided me—which honestly terrified me. Then, two years ago, I ran into an old classmate and we grabbed coffee. During our chat, I asked him why nobody ever wanted to hang out with me back then, and he just told me straight: it's because you were weird, and because you didn't try to hang out with anyone either.
I kept playing that conversation over in my head until it hit me—he was right. I don't blame anyone else for it; at the time, I just didn't know any better. I didn't know how to approach people, and even when someone did try to reach out, I’d find a way to screw it up. It was the same thing with guys. I was partially responsible for my own isolation (with some help from my dad).

But college gave me a clean slate. I'm lucky enough to be surrounded by decent people worth putting effort into, so I actually put in the work. I try to be different—I push past the anxiety, strike up conversations, and realize that everything is fine. People actually like me and respect me (obviously not everyone, because that's impossible), and they want to hang out—and that didn't just happen by magic. You have to make it happen.

For instance, I was the one who texted my current boyfriend first, and wouldn't you know it, he liked it, and we've been together for over two years now. And if it eats at you that you haven't had a girlfriend yet, or slept with anyone, let me tell you—my boyfriend was a virgin until he was 20. I was his first, and I'm honestly really happy about that.

The point is, you have to work for what you want because good things don't just fall into your lap. Now you have this chance at college to start over. Nobody there knows you—they don't know you were bullied, or that you've never had a girlfriend, or that you're withdrawn. That's stuff only you know, unless you choose to share it with certain people.
At my university, nobody knows what I went through—that my father was abusive, that I attempted suicide, or that I struggled with depression. Nobody even knows I've been overeating lately; when people ask if I've put on weight, I just say yes, so what?
No one ever needs to know what's going on inside my head. And I've managed it—everyone thinks I'm the happiest person on earth.

You can do this. I believe in you.😘 image
quietranger14 quietranger14 MemberOP
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#94 ·
Richard Moore53 said:We are rooting for you with everything we've got.😘

🙂 Thanks 😘 I'm feeling great!
quietranger14 quietranger14 MemberOP
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#95 ·
William Scott18 said:Yeah... It’s never the right time... Not at 19, and probably not after... Like things just magically get easier as you age... Everyone else is out there falling in love and living their lives, while I'm stuck with nothing...
As if I'm going to find someone at college... Probably not, since everyone there already has experience by the time they're 18 or 19...

Anyway, I don't want to derail this conversation, it's not about me...

Look, if you spiral like this in your own head, that's exactly how your life is going to feel. If you carry that mindset onto a campus, don't be surprised when nothing happens—you're basically deciding the outcome before you even start. It's on you; we could spam you with advice all day, but it won't change a thing if you don't want it to.

The hardest part is just saying, "Okay, I'm done with this." Believe me, I get it. It's hard to take responsibility for your own life because as long as you keep thinking this way, it's always someone else's fault—it's bad timing, a bad horoscope, or you can just blame God for everything. You have to make the call, and it’ll probably be the toughest decision you ever face: deciding to finally grow up and actually take the wheel of your own life.

And honestly? No matter how heavy that choice feels, I’m glad I made it. Being an adult is actually pretty great.
James Allen6 James Allen6 Active Member
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#96 ·
William Scott18 said:You've got a point, but... Sometimes, like today, I just want someone to hold me, and I want to hold them too...

Not someday, not maybe one day, but right now... Today. Before noon. Just listen to Smiths-How soon is now...
And honestly, it isn't happening today, tomorrow, or even next month...

You won't get anywhere with that kind of pessimism.
I know things have been difficult and heavy for you, but complaining at this point doesn't really help.
Maybe try taking things slow and steady with college. Take a page out of quietranger14's book—focus on self-improvement, go out and find friends, and actually put in the effort with girls instead of waiting for the world to revolve around you (which, unfortunately, hasn't happened for anyone yet).

And I guess you shouldn't listen to Morrissey, because it might just make you feel more depressed.😉 😘
Kyle Watson8 Kyle Watson8 Member
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#97 ·
and I 😍 quietranger14. Look, I’m currently spiraling into a depression, so maybe I’ll finally write something actually meaningful. Honestly, my previous posts probably sounded pretty incoherent 😁, but I swear they made sense at the time when I was typing them out 😛

@ sad boy. Your primary issue isn't that you don't have a girlfriend; your first mistake is that you simply don't know how to listen. Now, tell me you're READY TO LISTEN, and then maybe Auntie will give you some actual advice 🙂

Oh, and self-loathing. I've come to the conclusion that we all carry these deep-seated wounds... and sometimes we aren't even aware of why we hate ourselves or everything else. But the reality is that a specific trigger reopens an old wound, and it latches onto us like a leech, making us feel utterly worthless. But that is just a wound; we exist far beyond that pain. In the case of William Scott18, he thinks his unhappiness stems from being single, but that’s actually a trivial reason (he could technically live a full life without a partner and still find joy, but let's move past that). The real issue is that once that old wound is ripped open, he automatically assumes his entire existence is invalid, spiraling into a depressive, hopeless mindset that has become his default setting. It’s like that scene in 😁 where a second personality develops from the mud and takes over the main head. Well, the goal should be to build up that "true" head. That is step number one. Then there's the matter of the wounds and triggers themselves. I suppose some wounds never truly heal, but usually, help arrives from dimensions you least expect—and I don't mean God, though I have nothing against Him; rather, it's a reorganization of how we perceive the world, making it easier to navigate our crises 🙂. Escaping depression always feels mystical; it looks impossible, yet it is entirely possible. Or so says a former hopeless case.

This was just an example, not directed specifically at William Scott18, but more of a general observation 😁 I won't be talking to him until he admits he's willing to listen 😁

Kyle Watson8 😳 😳
William Scott18 William Scott18 Newcomer
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#98 ·
quietranger14, thanks for the great posts, even though I kind of crashed your thread while you've got enough on your own plate...

Thanks too, James Allen6

But I wanted to share a thought. While your points make sense and offer a good roadmap, there’s one thing I think you're missing.

When it comes to dating, being a shy straight guy is the toughest spot to be in. In our culture, men are expected to make the first move, and finding a partner isn't an impossible task. It's much the same for gay men...

But straight guys are essentially left to figure it out on their own. And who do women actually gravitate toward? The ones with the confidence...

It’s like how the rich just keep getting richer, while those struggling stay stuck where they are...
Kyle Watson8 Kyle Watson8 Member
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#99 ·
William Scott18, you’re such a pathetic little blue-haired kid. You actually believe the entire world revolves around how much swagger a guy has based on his car😛

I am genuinely worried about you, truly. I’ll offer up a prayer to the patron saint of lost causes to help clear a path for you😁 but honestly, that’s the extent of my influence. That is all I can possibly do.😘

As for me, I’m off to go investigate where my soul wanders off to whenever I fall into a depression.👋
William Scott18 William Scott18 Newcomer
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#100 ·
Kyle Watson8 said:William Scott18, you’re such a pathetic little blue-haired kid. You actually believe the entire world revolves around how much swagger a guy has based on his car😛

I am genuinely worried about you, truly. I’ll offer up a prayer to the patron saint of lost causes to help clear a path for you😁 but honestly, that’s the extent of my influence. That is all I can possibly do.😘

As for me, I’m off to go investigate where my soul wanders off to whenever I fall into a depression.👋

Until you're 18, or maybe even 20, being the "cool guy"—loud, aggressive, and wild—is what draws girls in. That's what they fall for at that age.

After that, I'm not entirely sure what matters since I haven't quite hit that stage yet, but confidence definitely plays a huge part, and you build that during those early years.

That's why I say guys who have had girlfriends will deal with choices sooner, while those who haven't end up with lower confidence and are left on their own. It makes it harder to try, and even harder for girls to show interest.
If you studied psychology, you might already know there's literature out there about this.

I'm not trying to lecture anyone, just stating facts—things are often much easier for women than they are for men.

quietranger14, I hope my college experience improves too, though I'm not expecting much. If you expect too much, you always end up disappointed.

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