Soul and Spirit

the word said:sin was simply there, always present, until the moment it is no longer tolerated and is cast into the lake of fire
now, go ahead and ask me who created God🙂

Where does this concept of sin even originate? Was it merely an inherent constant, much like how no one claims to have created God (unless one argues He 🤔 is eternal)? If we assume it has always existed, does that imply the existence of two infinite forces: God and sin? 😕 😕 Or, if it isn't an eternal fixture—if it actually had a point of origin—where on earth did it come from??

6 Jesus told him straight up: "I am the way, the truth, and the life: nobody gets to the Father except through me"

12 And look, there isn't any other way out, period. There isn't some other name under heaven given to us humans that can actually save us. "

Man, I really hope the Lord shows you some mercy on Judgment Day.
Because honestly? Wherever you put your heart, that's where your soul is hiding.

That’s just how
it goes
when you start talking
about things like spirits, souls, God, or consciousness
everyone carries their own unique perspective.
No two stories are ever truly alike...😁

the word said:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way and the truth and the life: no one comes to the Father except through me.

12 And there is no salvation in any other; for there is no other name under heaven given to men by which we must be saved."

May the Lord have mercy on you on Judgment Day.
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

Parrot, parrot, parrot... beneath this veneer of "peace" and "unshakable faith" lies nothing but insecurity and pretension. It’s hardly surprising to see the Catholic Church crumbling at the seams. What will you people do then, you so-called "believers"? 🙄

How tragic...🙄

David Miller15 said:blah blah blah blah blah... all this talk about "peace" and "unshakable faith" is just a front for total insecurity and being clueless... honestly, no wonder the Catholic Church is falling apart at the seams... what are you "believers" even gonna do when it hits the fan? 🙄

this is just awful...🙄

Look, I'm not even Catholic😉

the word said:I am not Catholic😉

I never actually claimed you were Catholic. I simply said "parrot." Out of all the potential questions one could ask, not a single one yielded a concrete, lived-in response.

If you aren't Catholic, then who on earth taught you to recite these templates so perfectly?

Karen Sanchez19 said:nothing is actually true

Truth is everything.😁

Alright, look at it this way:

Once we reach the end of the road, we'll 🙂
But until then, there are just mental concepts.

Casey Jones9 said:Alright, let's look at it this way:

When we reach the finish line, we finally 🙂
. But until that moment arrives, we're just left with abstract ideas.

Abstract concepts come in all shapes and sizes, I suppose.😁

David Miller15 said:I never even said you were Catholic. I called you a parrot. Out of all the possible questions you could've asked, not one single answer was actually real or lived-in.

So if you aren't some devout Catholic, who on earth taught you how to spout those canned little scripts so perfectly?

God.

David Miller15 says more than once said:🤣🤣

Look, if you really want to wrap your head around what sin actually is, there are a few things you gotta get straight first.
God made the angels. But one of them decided he didn't want anything to do with God, and that's why he's known as zlo. He goes by a lot of different names, too.
Then God made Man to live in Paradise—this perfect place He set up for us. Just meant for us to multiply, live life, and enjoy ourselves. There was just one rule, one thing not to do: don't eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
But zlo talked Eve and Adam into sinning. So, basically, sin is just a word for insulting God—who is the ultimate, most beloved good—but it’s also an insult to what a human being is at their core... to our very nature.
Once they took that bite from the tree of knowledge of good and evil... well, things happened. Stuff we all wish hadn't occurred. I won't get into all the messy details here.

The point is: If we had just listened to the One who actually wants what's best for us, things would be great right now. We'd probably just be lounging around in the sun, totally carefree. But NO. We didn't want to listen to what was good for us. We wanted to be like God. We ate that knowledge, we hurt ourselves, we did exactly what zlo wanted, and now we're paying the price.

Makes sense now?

Come on, give me the full breakdown 🤣 😬

(About 340 words on the topic; while you all wander off into stories about sin—I really have to keep repeating myself here🙂 )

The soul is the instrument used to perceive the soul.
Once the soul is perceived, it becomes the instrument to perceive the Spirit.
And the perception of both Spirit and Soul is the instrument through which we perceive God.

What is impossible for the mind (since it can't perceive anything without a physical form), for intelligence (which struggles to assign itself an unsolvable task—though, perhaps, it can?), or for the body
(you can't use your hand to see your own eye), is exactly how it works for spiritual phenomena:

only the soul can truly know the soul.

A human being is composed of the mind, the senses, and the body.
These three are tightly intertwined. The theory and practice behind yoga (much like how prayer functions in certain traditions) suggests this: by controlling the body and the breath—through things like asana and pranayama—we gain control over the mind.
Whoever masters the mind, masters the senses.
To reiterate:
If you can consciously control your breath, you can consciously control your mind.
Only once the mind—which is naturally restless and prone to wandering—is brought under control, and when the senses and body stop creating "noise" in the signal, can one become aware of the existence of the soul.

The mind, intelligence, the ego, and the false self simply lack the capacity to perceive the soul.
Fleeting emotions, passing thoughts, and desires have absolutely nothing to do with the true nature of the Soul.

The soul is perpetually filled with the knowledge of eternal bliss.

Which is why, in our language, we are able to say:

"That soul is inspired by the divine spirit."
or
"That soul is animated by God."

The soul is not an energetic body. It doesn't stem from the mind. And God is certainly not a product of the soul.
Anyone who rejects the pursuit of knowing the soul will find themselves incapable of knowing the spirit or God.

The various forms of material manifestation are merely reflections of the mind, which projects those reflections based on sensory input and experience.

Everything—as a concept representing the collection of illusions within material reality—originates in the mind.

Truth is that which remains eternally constant, regardless of the circumstances.
Why is it that for materialists or atheists, it’s so easy to accept the existence of thought, the ego, or personality? Where is the evidence for these things? Who has ever actually *seen* a mind, an intelligence, or a "Self"?

So, it would be only logical to ask: if these phenomena exist, could there be other phenomena that aren't directly visible?

Generally speaking, we say a person consists of the mind, intelligence, ego, senses, and emotions. Because each of these elements is preoccupied with its own specific function, they cannot perceive the oneness of the soul. All of these things act as a material mirror reflecting the soul.

In reality, the interaction between the soul, the spirit, and God is the hardest thing to grasp. Even angels don't quite wrap their heads around it.

The main protagonist, having stumbled in completely distracted, says this:
Devil, if you want to truly grasp the concept of sin, there are a few fundamental principles you ought to understand.
God created the angels. Among them, one rebelled against God, and he is known as Evil. He goes by many other names as well.
God created Man to dwell in the Paradise he prepared for him. His only instructions were to multiply, live, and enjoy himself. There was only one restriction: do not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
Evil lured Eve and Adam into sin. Thus, sin is a term denoting an offense against God—who represents the ultimate and most beloved Good—and an offense against the very essence of man: his own being.
Once they consumed that single bite from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, certain things transpired. Events that none of us would wish to have occurred. I shall refrain from delving into the specific details.

The point is this: had we simply listened to the One who desires our well-being, life would be quite pleasant; we would spend our days basking in peace and honoring the divine. But no, we refused to listen to what was for our own benefit. We desired to become like God, we consumed the knowledge of good and evil, we harmed ourselves, we did exactly what Evil desired, and now we suffer the consequences.

Is that sufficiently clear?

David Miller15 understands the concept of "sin" quite perfectly.😛

And she understands perfectly well that this is merely a fairy tale taught to you in Sunday school. She is actually laughing at your mindless parroting.

There is no "God." God does not know about sin. In fact, "He" doesn't even know Himself. Not a single divine... 😵 😍

I was simply asking for the WORD to start forming SENTENCES from "its own" head. Rather than from the teachings of an imagined, invented god who makes no distinction, let alone between GOOD and EVIL. 😲 😢

The word said:6 Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through me.

12 And there is no salvation found in anyone else; because there isn't any other name under heaven given to humanity by which we must be saved."

May the Lord show you mercy on Judgment Day.
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be too.

Krishna said: let go of all worldly pursuits and simply surrender to me. 😁 😎

polyhymnia said:poly totally gets that "sin" is just a concept 😛

and realizes this whole thing is just a bedtime story they fed you in Sunday School. Honestly, she’s just laughing at how much you all just parrot what you're told.

There is no "God." A god wouldn't even understand the concept of sin. In fact, "He" doesn't even have a sense of self. Just some confused, divine 😵 😍

I was simply asking for the WORD to start forming its own SENTENCES—to think for itself, rather than following the doctrines of some imaginary deity who can't even distinguish between good and evil, let alone 😲 😢

And so, Christians just keep philosophizing into the void. 🙄 🤣 😂

Balkanijan Pimp said:Krishna says: drop everything you're doing and just surrender to me. 😁 😎

Morning, oh enlightened preacher. 🙏

😁

Could you maybe put that in Sanskrit for us more "sophisticated" types? 🙂

What, did you forget? Huh? 😁

FW190 said:Kae, did you seriously forget? Huh? 😁

😳
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Balkanijan Pimp said:and then the religious crowd just starts philosophizing into a void. 🙄 🤣 😂

Honestly, if they were actually capable of philosophizing without looking for patterns where none exist, life would be much simpler... but they tend to see a fly on every single piece of garbage they encounter. 🙂

seriously, what are you guys even fighting about?*

Why is everyone constantly at each other's throats over Christianity?**