Electronic / EDM

Man, this is never going to end 😁

It is high time we wrap this thread up and return to our usual programming on this forum, devoid of any electronic influence... just as we have grown accustomed to. We have thoroughly exhausted the subject at hand. To be blunt, electronic music does not belong here. Please ensure all content that falls outside the realms of metal and rock is removed, as this remains, fundamentally, a Music forum.

Bravo!!! 👍
Learning fast, I see!!! 😉

Anyway, I'm on board with Mike starting this thread. 🙂

Me too...🙂

"For instance, I could totally call Vangelis the Mozart of the Classical Era—you know, the Mozart of Electronic Music."

Yeah, right.
And Yanni? He's basically Bach.

Bach. Bachahah. Bwachahcahcahcahhac.

Oh, come on, stop whining.

Look, Vangelis and Jarre are just boring, self-indulgent hacks who built their entire careers off maybe two or three decent melodies. It’s honestly pathetic if you're using them—and all that pompous New Age nonsense—as the gold standard for electronic composers.

Out of that bunch, even though he's the most corny, Yanni is actually my favorite.

Do yourself a favor and go listen to what Stockhausen and Schaeffer were doing fifty years ago, then rethink that whole idea...

feralgardener502 said:"For instance, I could arguably call Vangelis the Mozart of the Classical Era, or rather, the Mozart of electronic music."

Yeah, right.
And Yanni is basically Bach.

Bach. Bachahah. Bwachahcahcahcahhac.

Give it a rest.

Vangelis and Jarre are just tedious, self-indulgent hacks who built their entire careers on maybe two and a half decent melodies. It’s frankly pathetic if you actually consider them—along with all that pompous New Age nonsense—to be representative examples of electronic composers.

Of that lot, even though he’s the most saccharine, my favorite is Yanni.

Go listen to what Stockhausen and Schaeffer were doing fifty years ago, then think about that again...

Oh, look who finally decided to show up....🙄

All we need now is one more statement from you to complete the full picture of this entire thread...

Look, man.
Did I say anything? Maybe. But bringing up Vangelis and Jarre in the same breath as the stuff we're talking about? You totally missed the mark on that one. Seriously.

Here's the deal: Jarre and Vangelis are, to put it bluntly, just plain boring. If there was a death penalty for crimes against musical taste, those two would be first on the list. No contest.

[Okay, alright, fine... I’d maybe give Vangelis twenty years in a federal penitentiary. Every once in a while, he actually drops a decent track. But Jarre? He's not even worth the contempt.]

Electronic music boasts plenty of heavy hitters and absolute masterpieces—think Mike Oldfield, Vangelis, Jean-Michel Jarre, and the usual legends—plus, there’s an even wider field of icons emerging lately.

Hmm... we've already picked Vangelis and Jarre apart, but what on earth is a poor soul like Oldfield doing in the "electronic" category—aside from the fact that he should have been retired years ago 🙂?

I can tell you clearly aren't exactly a musical scholar 😁😁😁

And these "modern classics"? What are we talking about here—Moby, Sash!, or that Italian guy... oh right, Robert Miles 😁😁😁

Daniel Bailey7 said:hmmm... we've already picked apart Vangelis and Jarre, but what is that pathetic attempt by Oldfield to hang around with the "electronic crowd"? (not that he shouldn't have been laid to rest ages ago, 🙂 )

it's clear you've completely lost your grip on musical reality 😁😁 😁

and what about the modern classics? maybe Moby, Sash!, or that Italian fellow... oh right, Robert Miles 😁😁😁

Vangelis is only just now, after thirty years, showing a total lack of inspiration. Oldfield was only ever decent during his initial Tubular Bells phase, and Jarre was only relevant during his first Oxygen era.

Classics like Moby, Sash!, and Robert Miles?

Modern classics? There is no such thing as a modern classic, darling...

And I have absolutely no desire to even dignify those names with a comment...

feralgardener502 said:Look, let's be clear.
Whether I chime in or not is one thing, but by dragging Vangelis and Jarre into this specific conversation, you’ve essentially missed the entire point.

The reality is that both Jarre and Vangelis are, to put it bluntly, boring. If there were a death penalty for musical crimes against taste, those two would be first on the list.

[Fine, I’ll concede... Vangelis might deserve twenty years of hard labor in some freezing Alaskan prison camp. He occasionally manages a decent melody here and there, unlike Jarre, who isn't even worth the contempt.]

Vangelis is actually more interesting to me than any other performer.

By that logic, Pink Floyd and Radiohead are also "boring"—just a bunch of dead men walking. And if I really wanted to get personal about what counts as boring, we could talk about Metallica, Nirvana, Tricky, or even Mozart and Bach. Honestly... really now...

Whether someone finds an artist tedious or not shouldn't even be up for debate...

Newer classics? There's no such thing as a "newer classic," honey...

Let’s be clear—those were your own words in the previous post...
it’s pretty easy to tell by how you phrase things that you consider certain newer artists to be "classics" (or at least major genre players)... since you found those older ones so terrible, I had a hunch you wouldn't find much better in the more recent stuff either...

And don't call me "honey"... we aren't nearly on those terms 😠 😁

Daniel Bailey7 said:And don't call me "honey"... we aren't exactly on those terms. 😠 😁

And here I was, thinking we were friends:

you clearly have absolutely zero understanding of music

🙂

Well, I suppose... 🙄

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Daniel Bailey7 said:Well, I suppose so... 🙄

😘

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Daniel Bailey7 said:What about those newer classics? Maybe some Moby, Sash!, or what was that Italian guy's name... oh yeah, Robert Miles 😁😁😁

How about Gigi D'Agostino? 😁

This is awful... this isn't even close to being right! 😁

feralgardener502 said:Gigi D'Agostino? 😁

...and how precious! 😛

"Modern classics? There’s no such thing as a modern classic, honey..."

Oh, they exist, honey.

Take Vangelis, for example—I find him way more interesting than just any random artist.

So, what is it about him that grabs you?

By that logic, Pink Floyd and Radiohead are just boring old relics... and if I really want to throw my own opinion into the ring about what's "boring," then we're talking Metallica, Nirvana, Tricky, even Mozart and Bach... I mean, seriously...

Do you actually believe that?

feralgardener502 said:Take Vangelis, for instance. To my mind, he holds more interest than any other artist out there.

What exactly is it about his work that captures your attention?

And conversely, what is it that fails to interest you? I believe I stated quite clearly earlier that we ought not to be debating such matters...

fair point 😁