Posts by quietdriver3

Carol Brown77 said:The whole thing about that movie being over 20 years old... I just randomly guessed that and somehow hit the nail on the head... unless there's some newer remake out there I haven't heard about yet 😕

Carol Brown77 said:I can't remember: those three Cs, that woman who destroys books, those two quarters in the corner, the guy painting the subway car, and those fathers with their kids... I'm not sure if there's anything else

briskhound2 said:When was he ever actually at the top, though? I mean, maybe one decent comedy here, one solid thriller there... and okay, sure, that alright drama *Stand By Me*. That's about it...

northerncrane4 said:I'm afraid—to my great disappointment—that even Gilliam has lost his touch. His last two, "The Brothers Grimm" and "Tideland," were practically forgettable. 😢

northerncrane4 said:You know what the deal is with Blade Runner? It gives you a pile of cool quotes. Personally, I think "Too bad she won't live. But then again, who does?" is great. Same goes for Hauer's monologue. But I much prefer when Kubrick shows us exactly what Hauer talks about fifteen years later—that stuff "you people wouldn't believe." Not that I need to believe it—I've already seen it through Bowman's eyes.😎

northerncrane4 said:In 2001: A Space Odyssey, Kubrick is focused on humanity and consciousness—not some individual's emotions.

briskhound2 said:For me, it feels cold because I just don't care about the characters. I mentioned before that the scene where HAL gets disconnected is probably the most emotional part of the whole thing, but generally, I just don't give a damn about the people involved—what happens to them afterward doesn't move me. Compare that to when I watch Blade Runner, where I'm always left wondering what happened next. It's a lucky break that there isn't a sequel, honestly, because it keeps people intrigued. In that sense, 2001: A Space Odyssey feels cold to me (even the lead actors weren't exactly unforgettable) whereas Blade Runner feels warmer, more like a human story. I’ll vote for the end of Blade Runner; that monologue Rutger Hauer delivers is pure genius—the guy actually improvised it on set—and I totally agree that 2001: A Space Odyssey left us with that motif of a machine turning against humanity, which was pretty unique for its time.

briskhound2 said:A lot of critics lately have been talking about how Odyssey kind of shows the exhaustion of the material—that sealed-off, hermetic feeling you get from that whole genre (and we're talking about those movies centered on first contact with alien intelligence here). They argue that visual and technical perfection alone isn't enough to keep a movie like this at the top tier for decades when there are better versions out there—films that are actually clearer, which is pretty much a prerequisite if you want to stay on the "all-time greats" lists forever. I’m mostly thinking of James Cameron's The Abyss, which tackles that same first contact theme but in a way that's way more accessible...

Arthur Anderson49 said:Actually, I feel about Kubrick the same way I feel about Hemingway—he's important, sure, but maybe not actually *great*. And Odyssey is like that for me. It’s significant because it was a turning point that arguably opened up a whole new era for sci-fi cinema. But as a movie? It just didn't quite click for me. I felt like it gave me too little.

Christian Hernandez92 said:

melancholy beaver I haven't seen the prompt you wanted me to rewrite yet! Send over the text and I'll get to work on it...
Man, I don't even know what else to add to this massive wave of condescension and all that obsession with being an "intellectual"... honestly, I bet you were playing cards with God himself when the universe was being created... 😁 Honestly, no matter what I throw at you, nothing is gonna pierce that massive ego armor you've got up... but look, the bottom line is that trashing a horror movie just because the logic is wonky is totally pointless, since logic is basically the genre's biggest enemy anyway... I mean, imagine if people started bashing Romer’s zombie flicks just because they ignore every single medical rule ever written? It’s honestly ridiculous...
My main issue with Descent is that halfway through, the whole thing just goes off the rails into supernatural territory, and I honestly think it would’ve been way more gripping if they had just stuck to the survival horror vibes without throwing those monsters at us... Also, the characterization of that cheating character was just totally off for me...
Honestly though, it’s a solid movie all around...
Look, I’m not even trying to start a whole debate about High Tension here—we already have a dedicated thread for that movie—I’m just bringing it up as the perfect example of you basically tripping over your own feet with these arguments... because honestly, if you keep flipping your stance like this, you're gonna end up breaking your own neck... 😉

Do I even need to say that I didn't just guess, but I knew for a fact that you were gonna take my slightly aggressive reaction—which, let's be real, was totally your fault and your doing...—and label it exactly the way you did...🙂Typical, and honestly more than I ever expected...
Alright, let's get back to the actual problem here. It’s pretty obvious that horror just isn't really your thing, especially since you managed to write something that's honestly just straight-up idiotic. You think logic doesn't ruin a horror movie? Look, a film is an art form, which means it’s always going to be open to criticism—especially logical scrutiny—even when we're dealing with pure fiction. I still can't wrap my head around why a sane person would even need an explanation like this, but fine, just out of sheer curiosity and as a gesture of good faith to keep this discussion constructive, I'll lay it out... The issue with Descent is that it plays out in real-time, which makes it way too easy to pick apart logically, and that totally destroys the immersion, leaving it with that fatal lack of believability that basically kills a real horror movie... Of course, if you choose to view part of the movie as mere fiction—like some kind of twisted hellscape playing out inside the protagonist's mind—things change slightly, but even then, other kinds of inconsistencies start bubbling to the surface, so we end up right back where we started... I'm sure even you can grasp that eventually...

I'm honestly so glad we're on the same page about those crawlers being such a massive mess, and how the character development—well, whether you think it was just one person or everyone and their relationships combined—felt totally watered down... It’s about time someone actually used some constructive criticism instead of all that unearned hype, and really pointed out the flaws in this movie... Respect.👍

I was totally down to hear whatever roasting you had for High Tension, but you just went quiet on me... I'm honestly wondering why... My ego isn't getting in the way of this, I swear, it really isn't...

So basically, what it all boils down to is that you just can't apply the same kind of logic—you know, actual common sense—to movies that are trying to pass themselves off as reality versus those that are just pure fiction cooked up by some twisted human mind...

The whole vibe of Descent, specifically that gritty realism, just hits with the same level of logic and weight you find in those classic Batman movies, and honestly, neither of us can even argue with that... it’s just facts🤷

P.S. Seriously though, I gotta say you probably dropped some accidental wisdom there, especially that bit about jumping straight into someone's mouth. Yeah, totally... It’s just that, I don't know (there are like, a million reasons why), I think you might have mixed up your points a little bit... Just give it another thought, maybe you can rephrase it so it actually makes sense this time😉
Maybe you'll actually learn something from it, because if I had done that instead of you, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't walk away with anything at all...

Christian Hernandez92 said:Typical, just typical... When people run out of actual points or real arguments to make, they always resort to this kind of nonsense... I've seen this exact same thing happen way too many times before, but since I’m feeling generous today, I guess I’ll give you a decent response...
If you’d actually bothered to read a little bit before posting such a massive revolt, maybe you could use whatever brainpower you have left to realize I wasn't even trying to tear down The Descent at all, it was something else entirely... You've got until my next post to figure out what that might be, consider it your little homework assignment... I’m pretty sure the answer is laid out plain as day in one of my earlier posts, so you won't even have to break a sweat—assuming you can actually wrap your head around reading a long sentence once in a while...
Logic is honestly what just kills this whole movie for me, like I really didn't need anyone pointing things out... you should've just figured out the conclusion on your own...
Man, you’re really out here questioning my intelligence *and* my grammar at the same time, which honestly just makes this whole argument even worse... When I suggested those movies, I was being super clear that some were just okay genre flicks while others were actually top-tier masterpieces on a bunch of different levels. For someone with your supposed intellect, you should’ve seen that High Tension has this incredible visual style that could totally satisfy you if you weren't too busy looking past everything else... You know what I mean? You could have easily figured all this out yourself if you had just actually read what I wrote...
Look, if you’ve got any doubts about High Tension—I mean, I'm not even sure if you've actually sat through the whole thing yet—or if you really think it’s got those massive plot holes like they had in The Descent (or maybe even bigger ones, who knows right)... I'd honestly be so stoked if you'd just lay out all your theories and conclusions for us to see... and I'll do my absolute best to clear things up and prove you wrong...
So basically, I’m just sitting here feeling incredibly happy and satisfied knowing that people like you don't actually give a damn about H. T., and instead, you're all just obsessed with The Descent...😉

Christian Hernandez92 said:😲Oh my god... Let me put it this way... What I'm getting at is that a movie like The Descent—which people absolutely worship and treat like some kind of untouchable masterpiece or the "horror film of the decade"—is actually riddled with so much stupidity, total lack of logic, and zero actual tension, and so on and so on... and honestly, that's the only real "horror" part for me, just the idea that a movie can actually scare someone or give them an adrenaline rush when it’s fundamentally broken like that... 😁 The Descent is just so naive and lacks any real intelligence that it basically kills its own potential and ruins what the original idea could have been from the jump...
I feel like you see how pointless your question is too, because let's face it, every single movie has flaws, big or small, but nobody is out here crowning movies with massive holes like this as all-time classics...
But hey, if you actually want me to suggest some legit, smart horror movies that aren't falling apart at the seams and actually have some real quality to them 😉 it would be my pleasure. Like, check these out: High Tension (2003), Audition (1999), Let the Right One In (2008), Janghwa, Hongryeon (2003), The Spine (2001), Thesis (1996), Ju-on (2003), The Grudge (2004), Spiral (2000), Uzumaki (2000), Honogurai (2002), Begotten (1991), The Ring (1998), Shutter (2004), Alone (2007), The Eye (2002), Jacob's Ladder (1990), Dellamorte Dellamore (1994), Cemetery Man (1994), Hellraiser (1987), The Fog (1980), The Shining (1980), The Fly (1986), R-Point (2004), The Texas Chain Saw Massacre (1974), Guinea Pig: Mermaid in the Manhole (1988), Guinea Pig: Flowers of Flesh and Blood (1985), Pulse (2001), The Orphanage (2007), [REC] (2007)... That's plenty for now...