Matthew Doyle73 said:Cartoons are made for kids, period.😢
My whole point is that most kids are going to tell you A Bug's Life is better than Antz, and since kids are basically the biggest consumers of animation, well, I didn't make that happen and I'm certainly not celebrating it. I mean, honestly, if a kid doesn't like a movie once, they’ll just end up watching ten more versions of it with a bunch of other kids and at least ten parents tagging along, so it's actually kind of surprising how well Antz managed to pull through at all...
Yeah, exactly... I still don't get why people are arguing this... I already said that cartoons are made for children, not adults (at least here in the States).
Matthew Doyle73 said:Man, I guess cartoons just cater to kids these days because adults apparently stopped watching them.😢
Wait, so what, are cartoons supposed to be for adults now?
Matthew Doyle73 said:Like, take Ants—that DreamWorks movie about ants with Woody Allen voicing the lead. How many of you guys have even heard of that, let alone didn't care for Shrek?
Yeah, I've heard of it... watched it back in high school.
It was actually one of the smarter pieces coming out of the American animation industry, especially from DreamWorks... who would've thought they'd tank this hard.
But hey, there's your proof. "Ants," which is easily ten times better than that overhyped Shrek, is basically being forgotten while that other thing bagged an Oscar.... well, that's just how Americans are, I guess.
slyrider16 said:Whoa, take it easy there. 😁 Just because someone can't shake a grin off their face doesn't mean they don't know how to act. For instance, I think he'd be pretty great playing some kind of clown....
But seriously, what’s the actual issue with Clooney? I mean, maybe he isn't some legendary powerhouse, but I wouldn't say he's below average either...
Clooney belongs to that specific group of actors who basically rode their looks straight into stardom and nothing else.
What really gets under my skin is when they try to force him into these "serious" roles where he’s totally unconvincing. It feels like they just use him to play some generic "tough guy" archetype just to maintain the image that put him on that fake pedestal in the first place.
The absolute peak of his "anti-acting" talent was in Batman 4, though I guess you could blame the director for that one more than him.
I think I read somewhere that he used to do comedy or something back in the day. It doesn't even matter... but honestly, those are the only roles that actually fit him. You know, light comedies or those cheesy romantic trash movies.
Look... I might actually like Solaris, but I am 99% certain that Clooney is going to suck in this role, and then people will praise him like he's the next Brando.
I couldn't bring myself to write anything. Not a single word of support or criticism. I just didn't want to jinx anything.
I spent the other half of the game just sitting in my room listening to the broadcast. I honestly didn't have the stomach to actually watch it.
I finally crawled back to the TV just in time for overtime. (Barely)
What these guys pulled off is legendary. I don't think our national team has ever played a game this tough. Coming back from being down by 5 at halftime to turn the game around... that's a massive precedent for American sports.
You can only give the Spaniards 🙏
We knew they were good, but we honestly thought we were much better. They played an incredible game, too. If they had moved on, I probably would've rooted for them in the finals. But since they didn't, I'm all in for our guys, and they can take the Spaniards in the third-place match.
Masip is a GOD...
Alright, alright... I've praised the opponent enough.
I really can't single anyone out from our squad... everyone was phenomenal and everyone stepped up when things got ugly. First Goluža, then Džomba, followed by a bit of Metličić, then Balić and Laci... even Caleb made a huge contribution.
Tomorrow, I don't care how they end up. They've earned their medal. I watched the Germans earlier today... they aren't quite as dominant as people say they are (Spain would have crushed them), but man, their defense is intense.
Those idiot commentators who were bragging about our 3-2-1 defense and claiming no other national team knew how to play "deep defense" got shut down today. The Spaniards absolutely proved them wrong.
Major props to the boys for adjusting their defense on the fly. It wasn't easy... they showed a ton of tactical intelligence and maturity.
I caught the trailer while I was heading out to see TTT. At first glance, I actually thought it might be some new "Resident Evil" installment.
To me, though, it just looks like some cheap-thrill flick made for middle schoolers or maybe just something to kill time when there isn't anything better on.
Honestly, it's probably better to just wait until it hits streaming or Blu-ray.
Are you actually being serious right now, redowl90? 😕 😁
To me, both of them are basically the same thing—or if I’m being more precise, they leave me with the exact same feeling...
But fine, I guess I'll cast my vote for SW, though only because if that concept were used in a different movie, with a different cast and a better theme, it might actually be good...
"You've got zero taste, man"... at least that’s how I voted.
To be honest, I don't really care for either of these two actresses. Uma is pretty irritating to me; I genuinely can't think of a single role where she actually seemed likable. I mean, sure, the girl can act—no one is disputing her talent—but for some reason, she just leaves a bad impression on me every time.
As for Kate, I could probably count the movies I've actually watched her in on one hand. Maybe I've seen more, but I honestly didn't even notice she was in them. (Which, I guess, says a lot about her screen presence).
If I had to pick between the two, I suppose I'd go with Blanchetica, but as it stands, I'm just totally indifferent toward both of them.
Henry Bennett53 said:I honestly never understood why people are so obsessed with this movie. Personally, I think it’s totally mediocre—just a massive snooze fest. I’ve actually tried watching it a few times, but I could never even make it to the end. I’m not really an action movie guy; I find them incredibly dull and usually try to avoid them altogether. And this is an action flick that basically boils down to smashing cars!? The fact that they pitch the record number of wrecked vehicles as the movie's greatest strength pretty much speaks to how stupid the whole thing is. Boooring! I know I’m probably being biased since I think most action movies (well, maybe two or three are okay) are dumb, but I truly don't get why this specific one is so highly regarded or achieved cult status.
Maybe it’s because it isn't your run-of-the-mill action movie, but more of a mix of action, comedy, and a musical. And it’s actually a successful blend.
Besides, BB showed up right when that style of music was starting to fade out, helping to bring it back to the top and reminding Americans about some absolute classics.
Anyway, this whole messaging thing is ridiculous. Americans always feel the need to shove some kind of agenda down the throats of the younger generation through their animated movies. Usually, it’s just heavy-handed moralizing disguised by some sugary, sweet scene so the kids don't catch on, but it still hits them subconsciously.
For us older folks, that kind of nonsense doesn't fly because, first off, we spot it immediately. Besides, we already have established views that some cartoon isn't going to change—not to mention our brains were already fried by similar garbage when we were their age.😁 I'm talking about feature films, obviously.
I can't remember if I've mentioned this yet, but if I had to pick one word to describe Treasure Planet, it would be "unconvincing," and that's the biggest issue.
The only real praise goes to the character Scroop, that giant spider. When he showed up on screen, the kids actually got spooked and needed the adults to calm them down. (And honestly, it wasn't great for me either since I'm not a fan of spiders 😲). But hey, at least we finally got a bad guy who actually possesses the qualities needed to be intimidating.
Let me get one thing straight regarding FF : TSW. The main reason it flopped at the box office is because they slapped the FF name on it.
Anyone who’s actually played even one of the sequels knows there's easily about 50 hours of story there, yet they squeezed the whole movie into a measly 80 minutes. Seriously? They rushed absolutely everything. You barely have enough time to wrap your head around the plot before the credits start rolling. And don't even get me started on that ending—it was a total letdown. Specifically, those last words from Dr. Cid, "It's warm"... what was that supposed to mean? WTF? I guess I expected something a bit more intelligent from a character like him.
Honestly, the whole thing felt less like a cinematic experience and more like someone just stitched together a bunch of cutscenes from another FF sequel and called it a day.
But I was honestly expecting way better 3D animation, movement, and textures. I guess FF : TSW just spoiled me...
Trust me, you aren't alone in feeling that way.
Ever since I watched the FF : TSW animation in those cartoons, I’ve been looking at everything strictly from a technical standpoint—like, how skillfully they actually use the animation rather than just whether it looks "good." (Mostly because I haven't seen anything better yet).
And honestly, I probably won't stop doing that until I see something that actually surpasses it.
It’s just such a shame because this movie doesn't have anything else going for it besides the visuals. As a huge FF fan, that kind of stings even more.
I read somewhere that the robot they find on the planet is actually kind of alright... but I'm guessing that’s a bit of a stretch, isn't it?
That robot, B.E.N., is easily one of the most irritating things in this movie, but since Martin Short does the voice and I have a bit of a soft spot for him, I guess I managed to tolerate the character.
Honestly, seeing Ben just immediately made me think of Bender from Futurama, even though there's no actual connection—since people always bring up Ben Gun—but looking at how much they ripped off other stuff, I wouldn't be surprised if they did. Come to think about it... they basically did rip off Futurama. This B.E.N. character didn't strictly need to be some chatty robot. They could have just gone with an alien or something else entirely.
All in all, it was a huge disappointment.
Man... and don't even get me started on the spaceport in the film... it looks like it was lifted straight out of Star Wars, and even the soundtrack leans pretty heavily toward William's style.
I'd say Treasure Planet is just one big Star Wars knock-off.
Richard Howard2 said:I honestly find it mind-blowing that anyone actually still follows Disney—like, genuinely cares about their movies.
Hmm... let's not go down that rabbit hole... 😛
First off, I’m a huge Disney fan, though lately, I’ve been asking myself why 😕. I still maintain that they produce the best feature-length animated films, American productions, hands down. The fact that they've been sucking lately is a whole different conversation.
Secondly, I just love animation (maybe even more than live-action), so I'll sit through pretty much any feature film, and only then will I decide if it's worth "following" or not.
Besides, I recently watched Disney's "Atlantis," and I can't say it was bad, even if it had its flaws. I really wanted to see what Disney's take on Shrek or I. A. would be.
Just a little heads-up for anyone who might be riding that high after watching Ice Age and thinking about hitting up the theater for something else. DON'T!!! Why? Well, here's why:
Location: Mall of America, Minneapolis.
Time: 3:03 PM (yeah, yeah, I was late for the screening because the lady at the ticket booth was too busy messing around on her phone instead of actually selling me a ticket). Luckily, I didn't miss anything.
Attendance: 8 people, including myself.
So, if you think low attendance is bad, you clearly haven't seen "Treasure Planet." I can honestly say it’s one of the worst—if not THE worst—Disney's animated films ever made.
It’s pretty obvious that this animation giant has completely run out of ideas, creativity, shame, and common sense. They're just pumping out garbage like this and shamelessly ripping off everything in sight, not just other animated flicks, but live-action movies too.
Basically, Treasure Planet is just another retelling of Treasure Island, and easily one of the worst versions I've ever had the misfortune of seeing, except this time they set it in space. And honestly... that "space" setting is some of the most idiotic, unrealistic stuff I've ever laid eyes on, even for a cartoon.
The story doesn't save the terrible design (and I mean everything, not just the characters), mostly because the plot itself isn't even original and is executed so poorly that it feels shallow and totally unconvincing.
The animation itself doesn't really bring anything new to the table, though it isn't exactly bad. Still, once again, we have the classic Disney's move of throwing unnecessary effects at the screen—probably just to dazzle five-year-olds, since nobody else will care—and it’s a real shame to see where all that time went (apparently it took four years to make) instead of coming up with something fresh. No, I guess it was just easier for the animators and producers to just rip off Star Wars and Captain Harlock.
Bottom line... avoid this thing if God knows what. Don't even bother renting it on video when it comes out, because even $3.25 is way too much for something this bad.
I have to say, this is just like what I thought about Ice Age. It’s honestly pretty pathetic how slow American movie studios are when it comes to actually getting their hands on new releases.
I mean, DVDs have been floating around everywhere for ages now.
graniteangler10 said:Whoops, I knew I hadn't forgotten—New York City. And honestly, I guess Johnson isn't too bad either. 🙂
Oh, for crying out loud!!!! 😁
I’m actually pretty glad I stumbled upon someone on the IMF forums who’s actually seen Metropolis, besides Duderin, and is down to talk about it. You're willing to weigh in, right? Or maybe not.
Personally, I think this is the best animated movie I've ever seen.
Alright, look, just take a look at this.Nausicaa
That guy is just some little anime nerd working at the IMF—honestly, he’s probably the only one there like that. We should probably give him a little bump so his stuff doesn't just sink to the bottom. 😁
So, I've already posted my take on Metropolis on here—it’s just an amateur review written in my own words—but I figured I'd throw it out to you guys so we can just keep the discussion in this thread instead of starting some pointless new one. I'm actually pretty curious to see what people think about Metropolis, especially those of you who don't usually bother with anime. What's your honest opinion?
Yeah, look, the IMF is messing things up right now, so I can't even open all the threads properly. But once they get their act together, I'll definitely take a look.
Morski vražičko said:The absolute worst theater I’ve ever stepped foot in is Kustošija... and I mean convincingly, hands down, the worst place ever. I honestly don't know who even had the nerve to call that dump a cinema...
Yeah, maybe, but you have to admit they actually pick a decent lineup of movies. 😁