Posts by Karen Sanchez19

vBulletin

instead of relying on vBulletin

Look... why wasn't the entire database reset back to the last backup? Half the threads are functioning and the other half are dead ends. And why does this database seem to crash with such relentless frequency?

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Richard Ruiz5 said:"A machine that moves under its own power like a bird, whether through water or air, is called a Vimana...
...capable of traversing the heavens, moving from one place to another...
...from land to land, from world to world...
...the priests of science named it a Vimana...
...The secret of constructing flying machines...
...which cannot be broken, cannot be dismantled, and will not fall...
...and they are indestructible...
...The secret of halting flying machines.
...The secret of making flying machines invisible.
...The secret of eavesdropping on sounds and conversations within enemy flying machines.
...The secret of obtaining images from inside enemy flying machines.
...The secret of determining the flight path of enemy flying machines.
...The secret of incapacitating beings inside enemy flying machines and destroying them..."

Later, it lists sixteen types of metals used to forge these "flying machines," yet we only recognize three today.

"...In ultimate peril, to save lives.
I have unleashed this weapon...
And now I can no longer restrain it!
But your command, my Lord, I shall fulfill immediately:
Here is the treasure and myself... the grass shall endure,
But the fruit within women—that is what it will kill!
It cannot act upon nothingness!
I am unable, my Lord, to hold back
The weapon I have set in motion.
Now it will strike at the embryos, oh Lord,
But I will carry out your will!..."

Does this... does this actually appear in the Bible regarding flying machines?😕

Jason Johnson4 said:Abraham Lincoln 😬 😁

🙂

Jason Johnson4 said:Oh my god, Karen Sanchez19 is actually 🙄

I just don't have the energy for 😉 😁 🙂

What happened, Karen Sanchez19?😕

What exactly isn't working for you? 😕
Well, she already mentioned being a woman😁
back then😁

Right, hollowtrucker?

Jason Johnson4 said:Hey Karen Sanchez19, how can you tell if a fish in an aquarium is male or female?

Toss a crumb of bread into the tank. If she eats it, she's female; if he eats it, he's male. 🙂

Abraham Lincoln is a man. 😁

😍 🙄 🙄

hollowtrucker says she ate it. 😉 😁 😁

Take a closer look.

Probably... I don't know, since gender isn't even mentioned when we speak in generalities here. 😁

Jason Johnson4 said:Dude, you're talking absolute nonsense.

Unless I'm mistaken, she's a woman, right?🙄

Huh?

Abraham Lincoln, are you a woman?

Jason Johnson4 said:Q: So, what exactly is the soul?

hollowtrucker: An eternal, living spark from the flame of God.

Q: And what about God?

hollowtrucker: God is the source and the ultimate destination of absolute consciousness and everlasting bliss.

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So... basically, the soul is an eternal, living spark belonging to the flame, the source, and the final resting place of absolute conscious, eternal bliss. 😵 😁 😬 🙂

🙏 🤣 🤣

Karen Sanchez19 said:consciousness is the superior term

Everything will return to its original state... but the concept of "me" disappears.

The whole idea of seeking validation—proving that "you exist and act"—it all dissolves into pure BEING.

It is what it is... 🙄 🤣

And what exactly is God?

There is simply no other way for this to exist.😁

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How many times must I hammer home that there is no such thing as "right" or "wrong"?😉
When thoughts vanish, nothing remains. Yet, everything exists.😁

How am I supposed to demonstrate my essence—my knowledge, my convictions, this mere performance—when there is absolutely NOTHING left to show?😉

It isn't reversible. You can't just swap the word "soul" for "consciousness" and call it even.😉

Soul and consciousness are nothing more than labels. Just words.😉

In the end, it doesn't matter which side you take.😁

Go ahead. Try letting go of consciousness if you think you can.

Most Eastern spiritual traditions maintain that the starting point is the cessation of thought.
The typical American responds to that with: "Then what am I left with?"

"Consciousness" is a more accurate term.

Everything remains exactly as it was... except there won't be a "me" thinking about it.

That constant validation of "I am doing this" vanishes... replaced by simply being.

An eternally living spark of the flame of Quincy.

Exactly... 🙄 🤣

And what is God?😁

That’s just your own thoughts talking...

There is no other way for it to be possible.😁

Everything is wrong.

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How many times do I have to repeat myself? There is no such thing as right or wrong.😉
When thoughts vanish, nothingness and everything exist simultaneously.😁

I'll believe it when you show me consciousness.

How am I supposed to demonstrate the very thing that constitutes my identity—my knowledge, my convictions? It’s an impossible demonstration... even if there is absolutely NOTHING left to show.😉

It's the opposite.

IT IS NOT THE OPPOSITE. Don't try to swap the word "soul" for "consciousness."😉

Soul and consciousness are merely concepts and words.😉

Karen Sanchez19 said:Karen Sanchez19, please. Who exactly do you think you're going to enlighten?

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nobody😉

It’s simply because I am right.

Nobody is right; these are all just mental "illusions"😉

This is, of course, proof of my thesis. If there is no consciousness or mind during deep sleep, how is it even possible to wake up alive?
Because the source of consciousness and life is the soul, which never sleeps (unless creation itself ceases, eventually).

CONSCIOUSNESS IS

forget the souls and the nonsense and all that fluff😉 😁

When you wake from deep sleep, if you don't reload those memories, impressions, ego projections, and such, you would remain grounded in soul-consciousness. (Read: "pure mind" if you're an atheist)

soul consciousness🤣

just drop those stupid terms...

consciousness, period...
what soul consciousness, what soul

WHAT is a soul🙄

What lies beyond my perception?

perception is NOT yours
"you" are merely a thought...

Quincy possesses absolute perception. Even if you may not know every single thought passing through your head; Quincy knows.

God knows nothing BECAUSE HE IS EVERYTHING
you can only "know" that which is separate from yourself
God is NOT "him"😉

Furthermore, the soul is aware of every movement of the mind, the ego, and intelligence; though the reverse clearly does not hold true.
Certainly; our perception of God is limited; by no means the other way around.

more rambling

there aren't THREE PEOPLE inside you, but ONLY ONE everywhere😉

show me a SOUL if you can, show me God if you can😉

Excellent! We established earlier that perception arises from the mind-sense connection; and that this connection is disrupted by signals from the false ego. Perception is something subordinate to consciousness; what is superior to consciousness?

trklej trkelj

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The soul is an invisible concept to those lacking the capacity to sense it; yet, the soul remains an objective reality, independent of perception, mental constructs, or mere illusion.

It’s a paradox. This hasn't even touched the surface of logic, let alone reached any level of actual intellect.😁

Everything you're saying is pure fiction.
Your "soul" is nothing more than a neurological byproduct—a mental image rather than a tangible entity. It’s no different from how believers view Quincy.

Quincy:

It’s simply because I am right.

Nobody is right; these are all just mental "illusions"😉

Quincy:

This is, obviously, proof of my thesis. If there is no consciousness or mind during deep sleep, how is it even possible to wake up alive? Because the source of consciousness and life is the soul, which does not sleep (except perhaps when creation itself ceases to exist).

CONSCIOUSNESS IS

spare me the souls and the nonsense and all this trite chatter😉 😁

Quincy:

When you wake from deep sleep, if you don't reload your memories, impressions, ego-projections, and such, you would remain grounded in soul-consciousness. (Read: "pure mind" if you're an atheist)

soul-consciousness🤣

just drop these stupid terms...

consciousness, period...
what soul-consciousness? what soul?

WHAT is a soul?🙄

Quincy:

What lies beyond my perception?

perception is NOT yours
"you" are merely a thought...

Quincy:

God possesses absolute perception. Even if you might not know every single thought passing through your head; God knows.

God knows nothing BECAUSE He IS everything
you can only "know" that which is separate from yourself
God is NOT "him"😉

Quincy:

Furthermore, the soul is aware of every movement of the mind, the ego, and intelligence; though the reverse clearly does not hold true. Certainly; our perception of God is limited; it certainly isn't the other way around.

more rambling

there aren't THREE PEOPLE inside you, there is ONLY ONE everywhere😉

show me a SOUL if you can, show me God if you can😉

polyhymnia said:🤣 I had a feeling Karen Sanchez19's post would stir the pot like this 😬

It’s less about the argument and more about how Karen Sanchez19 didn't even care about their own take 😉 compared to certain others lurking here 😘

😉 😁 😁

Exactly... a rare moment of actual insight from someone who knows what's actually happening 😍 😁

hollowtrucker said:Brilliant. I suspect the thought is analogous to a psychological concept—specifically regarding the sense of
sight; a thought is essentially a kind of mental stagnation.

What if animals—or at least large mammals—possess an ego, a personality, thoughts, and intelligence? It isn't even necessary to prove it; the point is that people love to use this supposed distinction to claim humans are conscious beings while animals are merely lower life forms.

I disagree.

Are you even aware of the totality of existence? Something can be non-existent within the sphere of perception, yet remain very much real in the grand scheme of things.
Humans are trapped by their own perceptions because our senses are limited. God exists on the other side of such dualities; in other words, God could "see" with ears or "sing" with hands...

Consider this analogy: for some people, an entire lifetime flashes before their eyes, and all they ever caught a whisper of was the concept of a soul...

I'm just too exhausted for this🤣

Are you even aware of the totality of existence? Something can be non-existent within the sphere of perception, yet remain very much real in the grand scheme of things.

If you don't see it, it doesn't exist...
if you had never heard of some random guy from rural Wyoming, would he even exist?

WHERE does anything exist during a deep, dreamless sleep?😉

Humans are trapped by their own perceptions because our senses are limited. God exists on the other side of such dualities; in other words, God could "see" with ears or "sing" with hands...

God CANNOT do anything, yet can do everything..😁

And God cannot be perceived; God (as a "someone") has no perception because there is nothing outside of Him to perceive.

Yet, simultaneously, everything perceived is perceived by the I AM.

Consider this analogy: for some people, an entire lifetime flashes before their eyes, and all they ever caught a whisper of was the concept of a soul...

If nobody had ever told them about it, the soul wouldn't even exist for them... we are just talking about illusions and imagined concepts... spare me.
😁

Once you realize who is doing the perceiving, the real learning begins...

"Absolute knowledge" is a myth. It doesn't exist. I was merely speaking in terms of approximations

Once you realize who is doing the perceiving, that’s when the actual understanding begins...

The idea of "absolute knowledge" is a myth. It doesn't exist. I was merely speaking in metaphors.

hollowtrucker said:Exactly. So how is it that different individuals can be conscious of such vastly different perceptions?

Thought itself is just another individual occurrence...
The world arrives FROM consciousness—from within—regardless of what your external senses might suggest you feel.😉

That's true. But animals have perception too; do they have thoughts?

You'll NEVER know for sure.😈 😁

But honestly, whether they do or don't doesn't even matter.😁
They likely lack that sense of self... that ego. In them, everything just happens; there isn't an ego standing there thinking, "I am the one performing this action."😁

I "think" perception exists independently of thought. But nothing in this thread is easy to grasp; in fact, everything is difficult. We can only attempt to make it a little clearer.

Everything you perceive is merely the thought that it exists; otherwise, you wouldn't be aware of it. Whatever fails to enter the realm of thought simply does not exist.
And if you aren't aware of it, it doesn't exist.
Take a meteor streaking across the sky, for instance. It doesn't "exist" in your reality—you only hear the sound of "something."😁

Scripture said:and God says if you don't work, you don't eat.

Unless you're suffering from schizophrenia, hearing God speak to you isn't exactly a normal experience.🙂😍 🤣

Jason Johnson4 said:And what about masturbation? 🙂

I don't drink my grandmother's herbal tea.☕😁 😁