The Eighth Sin: GREED
in Spirituality ·
Everyone’s got an opinion worth hearing, I guess, but at the end of the day—you really ought to be making your own calls.
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shadowheron49 said:Hey, I'm not actually falling apart as much as you might think...
I can't really dive into all the other parts of my life in this specific thread...
If I did, you’d see I barely even have the energy to be "falling apart" like you're imagining.
This thread is focused on one thing, and that's all I'm writing about here.
But I agree with you, and I think you're spot on.
Nobody is irreplaceable... absolutely nobody.
It’s just hard, because replacing someone you basically invented in your head is a different beast since it happens online, and that's why these girls end up getting hurt so much deeper and becoming so much harsher and more broken... honestly, they're just mentally wrecked by their own illusions; nothing else could break them like that.
That's why I say... this topic needs a serious approach and some actual psychology experts.
Why do we fall in love like this?
What's actually happening under the surface?
When we talked in DMs, we concluded it's basically an escape from reality, because for everyone involved, there was usually some major real-life drama going on right before it started...
Plus, no matter how many years you spend living in this digital illusion, your actual problems in the real world are just stagnating, waiting for the day you finally decide to deal with your real life... meanwhile, you're getting all those "perfect" feelings from this virtual world.
So, who are the high-risk groups that get stuck like this?
How deep does the impact go?
I'm also curious about the psychological profiles of guys and girls who kill time this way without any goal, and who can't seem to move past the internet even when they offer hope?
What is their deal?
What actually connects these two types of people?
On one side, you have someone desperate for an escape from reality, and on the other, someone who specifically needs that kind of person just to boost their own ego?
What's the link there?
Also, what are the red flags for those dangerous manipulators?
(One girl mentioned being careful around people who are obsessed with astrology and/or God)
That sounded pretty interesting.
Is there anything else?
Come on, psychologists, let's hear it—think deeply and give us some real conclusions.
This is the sickness of the modern age.
Feelings are one thing...
but I want the facts.
The brain is an organ just like any other, and I want to know what goes wrong with the information input—what are we flooding ourselves with that makes it start "malfunctioning"?
shadowheron49 said:You put that so perfectly...
The only thing I'm stuck on is that whole "dependency" thing people keep throwing at me...
Like, isn't it totally natural to want the person you love...
and then feel crushed when you lose them?
... I mean, maybe that's not as unnatural as they say? I don't know...
shadowheron49 said:I've been thinking about that too...
There's always a way... when you really want something, you find a way...
But... I want him to *want* to meet.
It's simple... I feel like I deserve for us to meet in a normal, decent way...
I mean... I'm not some crazy person looking to hunt someone down...
If he doesn't see anything in me... even just enough to get his damn ass off the couch... even just enough to stand in front of me for five minutes... after two years... after everything we've been through... if he still doesn't see it...
Then I don't even want to meet him... I don't want him to see me... I'd honestly rather suffer and seek comfort from you guys than deal with his damn mercy... 😢
He wouldn't be worth it then.
But I know I'm not that bad... I know I'm not...
I know I'm not ugly, or stupid, or bitter, and I'm not even rude unless he starts being rude first; I know there's so much more to me than what I can put into words here, and I know I didn't do anything to deserve being tossed aside like a dog... I really didn't...
If he's really that cruel and heartless... then I'd rather stay right here asking you all for advice on how to move past this illusion... this trick... this whole mess I naively fell for... because I naively believed that people actually cared about each other here...
I'd take that over forcing him to show up for someone who clearly matters enough to grab a coffee with... if he can't see that... it's his loss...
My loss feels massive because of his blindness... but I can't explain that to him and I don't want to anymore...
shadowheron49 said:I'm right there with you on that.
Looking back at him... if he hadn't come into my life... things would be totally different, but like, *completely* different.
That guy had such an impact on me... seriously... I was already heading in the right direction, but I just didn't have a clue how to make it happen or where I was tripping up... he was my wake-up call. He basically gave me a little "hey, wake up!" slap because he's super spiritual and we're both into that whole alternative scene, but he's way ahead of me on that path and he passed on exactly what I needed to hear...
I guess that was his "mission," too.
It's such a shame... that's all there is to it.
So, I’ve been sitting on this for a while now... but like I said, I still have this nagging feeling that I’m missing the "key."
crimsonhound4 said:There are still 👋
I don't actually think I'm stupid, 😁 I just tend to speak really fast, so I don't always stop to consider the weight of certain words 😬
To answer your questions... when I was a kid, I was very quiet and unassuming, and I never really talked about myself. Not even in school. I'd talk about anything else, but never about me. It's just always been that way, I guess. I don't think I have any specific trauma that caused me to shut down; it's more just my nature. I rarely ever start a sentence with "I." And honestly, it's still like that today.
Do you mean what people think of me specifically, or just opinions in general? Because, to be honest, I don't really care what people think of me, though I do respect and listen to opinions regarding other matters. I'll actually take them into consideration. For example, like right now 😁
A friend of mine recently insisted that I should talk more about myself. I felt so incredibly awkward about it, but I did try a little bit. 😁
Nicole Morgan55 said:Why jump straight to the assumption that this trait is a flaw, or even some byproduct of childhood trauma? Is it really that weird for people to just be born that way?
So, once they've labeled someone as having a "Problem," they immediately start peddling solutions to get that person back on the Right Path and fit them into the "Normal" crowd.
It's this kind of mindset that starts threads like this, where people feel like outsiders because society views them as weirdos. Honestly, there's no reason for it. Why use chatterboxes and loudmouths as the gold standard? From the perspective of the quiet ones, those talkative types are the actual oddities. It’s all about perspective, but it's pretty pathetic when people from either camp get diagnosed with a "problem" and branded as freaks. Usually, the quieter ones suffer more simply because the loudmouths have faster tongues to spread rumors.
Besides, what's wrong with being selective about how much you share with the world? Why should people with these traits feel forced to change? Even with family, spouses, or best friends, you don't always have to lay every private thought bare. Everyone has a circle of friends, who have their own circles, and so on, in an endless chain. In the end, everyone knows things they probably shouldn't.
At the end of the day, it's easiest to just accept that some people love the spotlight, some hate it, and everyone else falls somewhere in between. There's no problem there.
Kevin Gomez10 said:Conversing with individuals like that can be a truly agonizing experience. I have occasionally found myself on the receiving end of intense life stories, tragedies, and deep personal confessions from women I had only just met. It creates such an awkward dynamic because I find myself without anything meaningful to contribute, nor am I particularly interested in the subject matter, but these people tend to become so immersed in their own narratives that it almost feels irrelevant whether you have a comment or not; they simply refuse to stop talking.
Quincy:There are those specific coffee shops where the entire afternoon is dedicated to the meticulous dissection of romantic lives—we pore over old text messages, re-examine conversations with exes, and debate the nuances of current flings. But I suppose even that level of scrutiny feels somewhat incomplete. It seems we also feel compelled to analyze the complicated romantic entanglements of acquaintances, those friends you only truly know through their storytelling, or perhaps people you encounter just once and never see again. 🙏
I have this friend who seems to feel a constant need to dissect her romantic life in painstaking detail and then recount every single bit to me. It is quite a contrast, I suppose, because I don't think I have ever truly shared anything regarding my own love life with anyone, if that is even possible. I am never quite sure why someone would feel the need to broadcast such things, particularly when they involve matters of such an intimate nature.
I suppose my greatest pleasure lies in dissecting and analyzing my own preferences and tastes, even when they stand in such diametric opposition to those of others; though, I must add, I have never once hinted at them through my comments or stories in a way that would give anyone reason to take offense.
Quincy:I suppose one might wonder what kind of underlying anxieties or deep-seated issues drive individuals to constantly broadcast every minute detail of their lives, offering up such continuous confessions to anyone who will listen. Perhaps it stems from a profound fear of rejection or social isolation, though I suspect there might be something else at play—maybe a persistent, almost restless need for external validation and constant attention from those around them.
I suppose there isn't much to say regarding zoki89, though I imagine they might have some thoughts on the matter if they felt inclined to share them. Kevin Gomez10 says:
I suppose the most effective way to confront one's fears is to realize that there is really nowhere to run. They aren't some external force or an obstacle in the outside world that you can simply outpace; rather, they seem to reside entirely within oneself.
I suppose one might wonder, then, exactly what the basis for that would be. Perhaps it might be considered somewhat more conventional. I suppose one might consider this to be our own version. It seems we are once again dealing with a certain level of stunted closed-mindedness, I suppose.?
crimsonhound4 said:unknown
unknown sistah 🙂
unknownI don't think there's anything inherently wrong with talking about yourself, you know? I mean, within reason, it’s pretty normal to share bits of your life. But for me, it just doesn't come naturally at all, and honestly, it never really has. I often find myself worrying that I’m being pushy or overbearing, and I get this nagging feeling that my little stories about myself might actually be kind of exhausting or even painful for the person on the other end of the conversation. 😁 It’s been proven time and time again that this is just how things go, so I guess there's really no point in wasting any energy trying to change it. Even with a personality like that, I actually have plenty of friends and I'd consider myself pretty social and talkative, but if you're expecting them to actually say anything meaningful about themselves... well, good luck with that. 😁 I guess it might just be because someone hasn't pointed out a potential weakness to me yet, maybe. 🤔 I don't know, I guess I've just gotten a little lost. 😁
I guess I should probably mention that I haven't really heard much from crimsonhound4 lately, though I might just be overthinking things or missing their usual updates. It feels like there's been a bit of a lull in the conversation, which is strange because they usually have such interesting perspectives on everything we discuss here. Maybe they're just busy with work or life getting in the way, but I find myself wondering what they think about the latest news. kaže:
I guess there’s this deep-seated belief buried somewhere in your subconscious that talking about yourself is just selfish and, honestly, kind of pointless. Because of that, you probably feel this natural aversion toward anyone who can't stop talking about themselves—and if I'm being honest, maybe you feel that same sense of distaste directed inward toward yourself, too.
I guess I wonder why people act like talking about yourself is such a bad thing. It feels like it only becomes an issue if you’re doing it excessively—because, honestly, anything done to excess, whether it's being too loud or too quiet, ends up being a flaw. But beyond that, I don't really see the harm. Your own story could potentially serve as a way to help someone else, maybe offer them some new perspectives, or even just be a tool for building deeper connections and helping yourself grow socially. It seems like a pretty natural part of getting to know one another.
Yeah, there’s definitely an element of selfishness involved; but is actually loving yourself really a sin? Honestly, if you ask me, I’d just say: live your life and work your way exactly how you want to, because that is your fundamental right—though I suppose how much of that freedom you actually get to exercise depends entirely on how much value you decide to place on yourself in the first place.
Do you actually associate those words—"muddy" or "retarded"—with who you are as a person? I guess if you could somehow work through that part of yourself first, everything else might just fall into place naturally... like, it would just follow from there, directly back to you.
Samuel Parker said:I think I botched the title on this one. I wasn't actually asking about physical appearance, but rather how we identify someone's intellect. How do you truly distinguish between someone who is genuinely dim-witted and someone who is truly brilliant? Even geniuses have those moments where they slip up and do something that makes everyone else label them an idiot or a fool. So, what are the actual hallmarks of true intelligence versus genuine stupidity? Or is it simply impossible to gauge human intellect without some kind of standardized testing?
Zachary Gonzalez8 said:Man, I actually just jumped into the web dev game myself 🙂 is it doable, man? 🙂
Gerald Evans5 said:Greed isn't just about the money in your bank account; it’s a spiritual rot, too.
Giving everything up to live like a monk? Honestly, that usually ends in another kind of failure.
And Happiness—well, let's be real, it doesn't come from any of this material stuff.
True bondage is an internal state. It's how the spirit gets trapped within a person, or through the actions they take.
People look for a total qualitative shift in themselves, yet they think a lucky streak at a casino is the answer. Not many have actually found bliss that way.
Sure, that sudden windfall looks tempting at first, right up until the cash runs out and
that old sense of servitude crawls back in. You end up right back where you started, stuck in the same old cycle.
... though I suppose maybe some people need that violent, high-speed rise and fall just to finally wake up and change. A metaphysical problem, I guess.
Scott Rodriguez7 said:It’s getting pretty hard to tell where reality ends and weed-induced hallucinations begin.😕
The whole situation is just bizarre.
First things first, maybe take a break from the cannabis and just see how things settle down.
If stuff like this starts happening again, your best bet is to head straight to a doctor to get a formal referral. From there, we can look into some other alternative routes if you feel like they might actually help.
Only if you really feel like it's worth a shot, though. 😁